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Why Autism is Sexier Than You Think It Is | Amy Gravino | TEDxJerseyCity


it first appeared in Flash’s obscure

it first appeared in Flash’s obscure pieces of scrambled porn watched in the

pieces of scrambled porn watched in the

pieces of scrambled porn watched in the dead of night at my grandmother’s house

dead of night at my grandmother’s house

dead of night at my grandmother’s house inexplicable tingling sensations

inexplicable tingling sensations

inexplicable tingling sensations whenever I would see that one boy in the

whenever I would see that one boy in the

whenever I would see that one boy in the hallway at school pages and pages of

hallway at school pages and pages of

hallway at school pages and pages of erotic fiction on a flickering computer

erotic fiction on a flickering computer

erotic fiction on a flickering computer screen scrolling past my

screen scrolling past my

screen scrolling past my fourteen-year-old eyes the Snickers and

fourteen-year-old eyes the Snickers and

fourteen-year-old eyes the Snickers and sneers when it became evident that I had

sneers when it became evident that I had

sneers when it became evident that I had a crush and it always was obvious

a crush and it always was obvious

a crush and it always was obvious cloaked in my inability to disguise my

cloaked in my inability to disguise my

cloaked in my inability to disguise my emotions you’re not allowed to like him

emotions you’re not allowed to like him

emotions you’re not allowed to like him they jeered and my face flushed red with

they jeered and my face flushed red with

they jeered and my face flushed red with humiliation I thought about sex

humiliation I thought about sex

humiliation I thought about sex I wrote about it read about it knew the

I wrote about it read about it knew the

I wrote about it read about it knew the ins and outs so to speak

ins and outs so to speak

ins and outs so to speak about it and somewhere along the way I

about it and somewhere along the way I

about it and somewhere along the way I began to believe that I would never have

began to believe that I would never have

began to believe that I would never have it sex wasn’t for people like me even if

it sex wasn’t for people like me even if

it sex wasn’t for people like me even if I wanted to no one would ever want to

I wanted to no one would ever want to

I wanted to no one would ever want to have sex with me an autistic woman would

have sex with me an autistic woman would

have sex with me an autistic woman would they in 1975 the World Health

they in 1975 the World Health

they in 1975 the World Health Organization defined sexuality as quote

Organization defined sexuality as quote

Organization defined sexuality as quote an integral part of the personality of

an integral part of the personality of

an integral part of the personality of every one man woman and child

every one man woman and child

every one man woman and child it is a basic need and an aspect of

it is a basic need and an aspect of

it is a basic need and an aspect of being human that cannot be separated

being human that cannot be separated

being human that cannot be separated from other aspects of human life

from other aspects of human life

from other aspects of human life sexuality is not synonymous with sexual

sexuality is not synonymous with sexual

sexuality is not synonymous with sexual intercourse and it influences thoughts

intercourse and it influences thoughts

intercourse and it influences thoughts feelings actions and interactions and

feelings actions and interactions and

feelings actions and interactions and thereby our mental and physical health

thereby our mental and physical health

thereby our mental and physical health end quote but somewhere along the way a

end quote but somewhere along the way a

end quote but somewhere along the way a stigma built up around the sexuality and

stigma built up around the sexuality and

stigma built up around the sexuality and sexual expression of autistic people the

sexual expression of autistic people the

sexual expression of autistic people the world decided that this definition

world decided that this definition

world decided that this definition didn’t apply to us and society overall

didn’t apply to us and society overall

didn’t apply to us and society overall doesn’t like the thought of autistic

doesn’t like the thought of autistic

doesn’t like the thought of autistic people getting laid shagging screwing

people getting laid shagging screwing

people getting laid shagging screwing copulating doing the horizontal mambo

copulating doing the horizontal mambo

copulating doing the horizontal mambo the euphemisms are many but the

the euphemisms are many but the

the euphemisms are many but the opportunities are sadly few somehow it

opportunities are sadly few somehow it

opportunities are sadly few somehow it became easier to think of autistic

became easier to think of autistic

became easier to think of autistic people as sexless uninterested and

people as sexless uninterested and

people as sexless uninterested and repulsed by the idea of sex which in and

repulsed by the idea of sex which in and

repulsed by the idea of sex which in and of itself is a departure from the

of itself is a departure from the

of itself is a departure from the narrative that that grows up around

narrative that that grows up around

narrative that that grows up around other disabled populations which are

other disabled populations which are

other disabled populations which are often viewed as being overly sexual but

often viewed as being overly sexual but

often viewed as being overly sexual but to act as though having sexual desires

to act as though having sexual desires

to act as though having sexual desires and thoughts is something that doesn’t

and thoughts is something that doesn’t

and thoughts is something that doesn’t happen

happen

happen it’s to deny autistic people a huge part

it’s to deny autistic people a huge part

it’s to deny autistic people a huge part of the human experience

of the human experience

of the human experience it is for this reason and so many others

it is for this reason and so many others

it is for this reason and so many others that we need to dramatically shift the

that we need to dramatically shift the

that we need to dramatically shift the dialogue around autism and sexuality

dialogue around autism and sexuality

dialogue around autism and sexuality from stop to go any parent of a teenager

from stop to go any parent of a teenager

from stop to go any parent of a teenager will tell you that one of their greatest

will tell you that one of their greatest

will tell you that one of their greatest fears is having that birds in the bees

fears is having that birds in the bees

fears is having that birds in the bees talk with their child one idea that

talk with their child one idea that

talk with their child one idea that persists despite its overwhelming

persists despite its overwhelming

persists despite its overwhelming erroneous Ness that if a teenager has

erroneous Ness that if a teenager has

erroneous Ness that if a teenager has the slightest sexual knowledge they will

the slightest sexual knowledge they will

the slightest sexual knowledge they will then go out and have sex individual is

then go out and have sex individual is

then go out and have sex individual is on the autism spectrum who are given

on the autism spectrum who are given

on the autism spectrum who are given thorough information about sex are no

thorough information about sex are no

thorough information about sex are no more likely than anyone else to go out

more likely than anyone else to go out

more likely than anyone else to go out and fall headfirst into an orgy but

and fall headfirst into an orgy but

and fall headfirst into an orgy but where neurotypical people can more

where neurotypical people can more

where neurotypical people can more easily learn the social ropes and the

easily learn the social ropes and the

easily learn the social ropes and the dynamics of navigating romantic and

dynamics of navigating romantic and

dynamics of navigating romantic and sexual relationships autistic people

sexual relationships autistic people

sexual relationships autistic people struggle to read these vital cues and

struggle to read these vital cues and

struggle to read these vital cues and are much more likely to end up in

are much more likely to end up in

are much more likely to end up in vulnerable situations and to be

vulnerable situations and to be

vulnerable situations and to be victimized both physically and

victimized both physically and

victimized both physically and emotionally this is why it is so

emotionally this is why it is so

emotionally this is why it is so important for individuals on the

important for individuals on the

important for individuals on the spectrum to have access to accurate

spectrum to have access to accurate

spectrum to have access to accurate straightforward information about sex

straightforward information about sex

straightforward information about sex the idea that there is a right way to

the idea that there is a right way to

the idea that there is a right way to have sex or to be sexual is another

have sex or to be sexual is another

have sex or to be sexual is another misconception that won’t quietly die the

misconception that won’t quietly die the

misconception that won’t quietly die the experience of sex mentally emotionally

experience of sex mentally emotionally

experience of sex mentally emotionally and physically is different for every

and physically is different for every

and physically is different for every person

person

person and while the sensory issues that many

and while the sensory issues that many

and while the sensory issues that many autistic individuals face may alter how

autistic individuals face may alter how

autistic individuals face may alter how they have sex it doesn’t mean that they

they have sex it doesn’t mean that they

they have sex it doesn’t mean that they don’t have it at all the first time that

don’t have it at all the first time that

don’t have it at all the first time that I had sex I was 22 years old I had

I had sex I was 22 years old I had

I had sex I was 22 years old I had plenty of information or so I thought

plenty of information or so I thought

plenty of information or so I thought from my years of erotic fan fiction

from my years of erotic fan fiction

from my years of erotic fan fiction writing and college pseudo threesomes

writing and college pseudo threesomes

writing and college pseudo threesomes yes that’s the thing asked me how but as

yes that’s the thing asked me how but as

yes that’s the thing asked me how but as I lay there in a tiny Seattle apartment

I lay there in a tiny Seattle apartment

I lay there in a tiny Seattle apartment on that blue velvet Tommy Hilfiger

on that blue velvet Tommy Hilfiger

on that blue velvet Tommy Hilfiger comforter two classes of the wine I’d

comforter two classes of the wine I’d

comforter two classes of the wine I’d picked out left forgotten on the coffee

picked out left forgotten on the coffee

picked out left forgotten on the coffee table the white button-down shirt I’d

table the white button-down shirt I’d

table the white button-down shirt I’d asked him to wear lying in a crumpled

asked him to wear lying in a crumpled

asked him to wear lying in a crumpled heap on the floor because I’d always

heap on the floor because I’d always

heap on the floor because I’d always dreamed him on buttoning a guy’s shirt

dreamed him on buttoning a guy’s shirt

dreamed him on buttoning a guy’s shirt before we were about to make love and

before we were about to make love and

before we were about to make love and wearing a University of Washington

wearing a University of Washington

wearing a University of Washington Huskies cheerleader uniform in a girl

Huskies cheerleader uniform in a girl

Huskies cheerleader uniform in a girl size 14 after previously being naked I

size 14 after previously being naked I

size 14 after previously being naked I realized how deeply unprepared I

realized how deeply unprepared I

realized how deeply unprepared I really was it hurt me five feet tall and

really was it hurt me five feet tall and

really was it hurt me five feet tall and him six foot five his wall of endless

him six foot five his wall of endless

him six foot five his wall of endless torso looking me in the face somehow a

torso looking me in the face somehow a

torso looking me in the face somehow a fitting metaphor for not being able to

fitting metaphor for not being able to

fitting metaphor for not being able to see the true face of the person that I

see the true face of the person that I

see the true face of the person that I had fallen in love with after it was

had fallen in love with after it was

had fallen in love with after it was over he scurried to the bathroom to wash

over he scurried to the bathroom to wash

over he scurried to the bathroom to wash up one of the many red flags that I

up one of the many red flags that I

up one of the many red flags that I failed to register and I throw open my

failed to register and I throw open my

failed to register and I throw open my bedroom window and shouted into the

bedroom window and shouted into the

bedroom window and shouted into the frigid February night I am no longer a

frigid February night I am no longer a

frigid February night I am no longer a virgin do you hear that Seattle I

virgin do you hear that Seattle I

virgin do you hear that Seattle I thought that he would hold me as we fell

thought that he would hold me as we fell

thought that he would hold me as we fell asleep

asleep

asleep the quiet affirming soreness still

the quiet affirming soreness still

the quiet affirming soreness still throbbing between my legs but he turned

throbbing between my legs but he turned

throbbing between my legs but he turned away I watched his back rise and fall

away I watched his back rise and fall

away I watched his back rise and fall too anxious to close my eyes lest he

too anxious to close my eyes lest he

too anxious to close my eyes lest he suddenly change his mind he didn’t

suddenly change his mind he didn’t

suddenly change his mind he didn’t before that night I decided that I had

before that night I decided that I had

before that night I decided that I had to know if I’d done a good job he was

to know if I’d done a good job he was

to know if I’d done a good job he was more experienced despite being two years

more experienced despite being two years

more experienced despite being two years younger and I feared that my lack of

younger and I feared that my lack of

younger and I feared that my lack of time in the field would adversely affect

time in the field would adversely affect

time in the field would adversely affect my performance so in some inspired fit

my performance so in some inspired fit

my performance so in some inspired fit of autism fueled wisdom I reckon that if

of autism fueled wisdom I reckon that if

of autism fueled wisdom I reckon that if hotels and restaurants can have comment

hotels and restaurants can have comment

hotels and restaurants can have comment cards for you to fill out

cards for you to fill out

cards for you to fill out why couldn’t I a sexual intercourse

why couldn’t I a sexual intercourse

why couldn’t I a sexual intercourse comment card made an all complete

comment card made an all complete

comment card made an all complete seriousness and with tongue firmly

seriousness and with tongue firmly

seriousness and with tongue firmly implanted in cheek and the questions on

implanted in cheek and the questions on

implanted in cheek and the questions on the back of course what did you think

the back of course what did you think

the back of course what did you think could have been better what did you

could have been better what did you

could have been better what did you enjoy most about this session what

enjoy most about this session what

enjoy most about this session what didn’t happen that you would like to

didn’t happen that you would like to

didn’t happen that you would like to have happen again please rate the

have happen again please rate the

have happen again please rate the following from one to five the outfit I

following from one to five the outfit I

following from one to five the outfit I had on my facial expressions during

had on my facial expressions during

had on my facial expressions during intercourse my vocal volume is there

intercourse my vocal volume is there

intercourse my vocal volume is there anything I can do in the future to get

anything I can do in the future to get

anything I can do in the future to get you aroused more quickly

valid and useful information all of it

valid and useful information all of it but hmm there’s a problem with these

but hmm there’s a problem with these

but hmm there’s a problem with these questions one then I didn’t see that I

questions one then I didn’t see that I

questions one then I didn’t see that I couldn’t see until I later learn that

couldn’t see until I later learn that

couldn’t see until I later learn that there’s a fundamental difference between

there’s a fundamental difference between

there’s a fundamental difference between having sex and someone having sex with

having sex and someone having sex with

having sex and someone having sex with you every single one of these questions

you every single one of these questions

you every single one of these questions is about him his enjoyment his

is about him his enjoyment his

is about him his enjoyment his satisfaction there is not a word not a

satisfaction there is not a word not a

satisfaction there is not a word not a syllable about my enjoyment about

syllable about my enjoyment about

syllable about my enjoyment about whether or not I’d liked all the things

whether or not I’d liked all the things

whether or not I’d liked all the things that he did my pleasure in this instance

that he did my pleasure in this instance

that he did my pleasure in this instance wasn’t simply secondary it just did not

wasn’t simply secondary it just did not

wasn’t simply secondary it just did not exist so I didn’t have that knowledge of

exist so I didn’t have that knowledge of

exist so I didn’t have that knowledge of sex my parents and I never had that

sex my parents and I never had that

sex my parents and I never had that birds-and-the-bees talk which I almost

birds-and-the-bees talk which I almost

birds-and-the-bees talk which I almost feel cheated out of now in a bizarre way

feel cheated out of now in a bizarre way

feel cheated out of now in a bizarre way and what I have found as I’ve waded into

and what I have found as I’ve waded into

and what I have found as I’ve waded into the murky and sometimes

the murky and sometimes

the murky and sometimes alligator-infested waters of sexuality

alligator-infested waters of sexuality

alligator-infested waters of sexuality instruction and disability is that there

instruction and disability is that there

instruction and disability is that there are many barriers to establishing that

are many barriers to establishing that

are many barriers to establishing that conversation and to teaching dating

conversation and to teaching dating

conversation and to teaching dating skills to autistic people as a candidate

skills to autistic people as a candidate

skills to autistic people as a candidate for my master’s degree in ABA applied

for my master’s degree in ABA applied

for my master’s degree in ABA applied behavior analysis

behavior analysis

behavior analysis I built my thesis around teaching adult

I built my thesis around teaching adult

I built my thesis around teaching adult men diagnosed with autism how to ask

men diagnosed with autism how to ask

men diagnosed with autism how to ask someone out on a date the behavior

someone out on a date the behavior

someone out on a date the behavior analysis research literature that I had

analysis research literature that I had

analysis research literature that I had to draw from contain innumerable studies

to draw from contain innumerable studies

to draw from contain innumerable studies about teaching social skills talk to

about teaching social skills talk to

about teaching social skills talk to sick individuals but nothing related to

sick individuals but nothing related to

sick individuals but nothing related to dating skills not one study and the

dating skills not one study and the

dating skills not one study and the plethora of participants that I was sure

plethora of participants that I was sure

plethora of participants that I was sure I would have were also non-existent with

I would have were also non-existent with

I would have were also non-existent with it taking me two years to find just two

it taking me two years to find just two

it taking me two years to find just two participants turns out nobody really

participants turns out nobody really

participants turns out nobody really likes to have their dating skills

likes to have their dating skills

likes to have their dating skills critiqued who would have thought there’s

critiqued who would have thought there’s

critiqued who would have thought there’s still such a taboo around this topic

still such a taboo around this topic

still such a taboo around this topic that it is difficult if not impossible

that it is difficult if not impossible

that it is difficult if not impossible to get funding for these types of

to get funding for these types of

to get funding for these types of studies

studies

studies never mind that dating is not one skill

never mind that dating is not one skill

never mind that dating is not one skill it’s many many skills almost all of

it’s many many skills almost all of

it’s many many skills almost all of which are complex and confusing and hard

which are complex and confusing and hard

which are complex and confusing and hard as hell to understand for someone who

as hell to understand for someone who

as hell to understand for someone who isn’t on the autism spectrum let alone

isn’t on the autism spectrum let alone

isn’t on the autism spectrum let alone with someone who is further complicating

with someone who is further complicating

with someone who is further complicating the issue the equation is the damn if

the issue the equation is the damn if

the issue the equation is the damn if you do it then if you don’t do it factor

you do it then if you don’t do it factor

you do it then if you don’t do it factor well the sexist double standard chaser

well the sexist double standard chaser

well the sexist double standard chaser oh no he wants to have sex oh that can’t

oh no he wants to have sex oh that can’t

oh no he wants to have sex oh that can’t happen that’s not acceptable

happen that’s not acceptable

happen that’s not acceptable he doesn’t want to have sex what’s wrong

he doesn’t want to have sex what’s wrong

he doesn’t want to have sex what’s wrong with him something must be wrong but if

with him something must be wrong but if

with him something must be wrong but if you flip it and reverse it she doesn’t

you flip it and reverse it she doesn’t

you flip it and reverse it she doesn’t want to have sex oh that’s okay that’s

want to have sex oh that’s okay that’s

want to have sex oh that’s okay that’s perfectly fine there is also a

perfectly fine there is also a

perfectly fine there is also a presumption of heterosexuality among

presumption of heterosexuality among

presumption of heterosexuality among autistic individuals which presents

autistic individuals which presents

autistic individuals which presents additional difficulties for people on

additional difficulties for people on

additional difficulties for people on the spectrum who identify as LGBT or

the spectrum who identify as LGBT or

the spectrum who identify as LGBT or asexual having a cultural and/or

asexual having a cultural and/or

asexual having a cultural and/or religious stigma against their

religious stigma against their

religious stigma against their orientation or gender identity often

orientation or gender identity often

orientation or gender identity often precludes these individuals from being

precludes these individuals from being

precludes these individuals from being able to express themselves in a safe and

able to express themselves in a safe and

able to express themselves in a safe and healthy way clearly it is incredibly

healthy way clearly it is incredibly

healthy way clearly it is incredibly harmful and dehumanizing to exclude

harmful and dehumanizing to exclude

harmful and dehumanizing to exclude autistic individuals who have desires

autistic individuals who have desires

autistic individuals who have desires and who want to have sex from sexual

and who want to have sex from sexual

and who want to have sex from sexual experiences we know that but now the

experiences we know that but now the

experiences we know that but now the question becomes what can we do about it

question becomes what can we do about it

question becomes what can we do about it how do we make it okay for someone like

how do we make it okay for someone like

how do we make it okay for someone like me to say I’m autistic and I have sex

me to say I’m autistic and I have sex

me to say I’m autistic and I have sex without pearls being clutched and

without pearls being clutched and

without pearls being clutched and furniture stores having a run on

furniture stores having a run on

furniture stores having a run on feigning couches to shift the paradigm

feigning couches to shift the paradigm

feigning couches to shift the paradigm to reshape our perception of autism and

to reshape our perception of autism and

to reshape our perception of autism and sexuality we need more research if

sexuality we need more research if

sexuality we need more research if behavior analysts can do preference

behavior analysts can do preference

behavior analysts can do preference assessments for skittles versus M&Ms

assessments for skittles versus M&Ms

assessments for skittles versus M&Ms they can do them for hugging versus

they can do them for hugging versus

they can do them for hugging versus kissing touching on the arm versus

kissing touching on the arm versus

kissing touching on the arm versus touching on the face and so on and we

touching on the face and so on and we

touching on the face and so on and we need to have not only more studies on

need to have not only more studies on

need to have not only more studies on sexuality with autistic participants but

sexuality with autistic participants but

sexuality with autistic participants but we need studies on sexuality with

we need studies on sexuality with

we need studies on sexuality with autistic researchers include us in the

autistic researchers include us in the

autistic researchers include us in the process see us not as children needing

process see us not as children needing

process see us not as children needing to be taught but as who we are

to be taught but as who we are

to be taught but as who we are intelligent capable adults who want to

intelligent capable adults who want to

intelligent capable adults who want to engage in this discussion as equals

engage in this discussion as equals

engage in this discussion as equals among you and from this research there

among you and from this research there

among you and from this research there may come new supports that can help

may come new supports that can help

may come new supports that can help autistic individuals embrace their

autistic individuals embrace their

autistic individuals embrace their sexuality from the physical such as

sexuality from the physical such as

sexuality from the physical such as learning how to masturbate appropriately

learning how to masturbate appropriately

learning how to masturbate appropriately to the emotional learning how to

to the emotional learning how to

to the emotional learning how to establish intimacy with someone which

establish intimacy with someone which

establish intimacy with someone which should happen fire fire prior to

should happen fire fire prior to

should happen fire fire prior to anything else because after all sex

anything else because after all sex

anything else because after all sex begins long before sex begins as the

begins long before sex begins as the

begins long before sex begins as the saying goes we must create supports that

saying goes we must create supports that

saying goes we must create supports that neither overly eroticized

neither overly eroticized

neither overly eroticized nor infantilized hand puppets for a 30

nor infantilized hand puppets for a 30

nor infantilized hand puppets for a 30 year old autistic people’s sexuality and

year old autistic people’s sexuality and

year old autistic people’s sexuality and that meet them exactly where they are

that meet them exactly where they are

that meet them exactly where they are and at the level that best fits their

and at the level that best fits their

and at the level that best fits their specific needs

specific needs

specific needs perhaps most obvious and yet least

perhaps most obvious and yet least

perhaps most obvious and yet least considered

considered

considered is finally acknowledging autistic

is finally acknowledging autistic

is finally acknowledging autistic individuals as sexual beings recognizing

individuals as sexual beings recognizing

individuals as sexual beings recognizing that we have the capacity for sex for

that we have the capacity for sex for

that we have the capacity for sex for pleasure foreplay change your ideas

pleasure foreplay change your ideas

pleasure foreplay change your ideas about autism and you can change the

about autism and you can change the

about autism and you can change the world and when this all comes to pass

world and when this all comes to pass

world and when this all comes to pass when we as autistic people realize that

when we as autistic people realize that

when we as autistic people realize that we alone control access to our bodies

we alone control access to our bodies

we alone control access to our bodies and ultimately our sexual destinies and

and ultimately our sexual destinies and

and ultimately our sexual destinies and when we have the information needed to

when we have the information needed to

when we have the information needed to make informed choices then we will be

make informed choices then we will be

make informed choices then we will be complete

complete

complete empowered confidence is an unstoppable

empowered confidence is an unstoppable

empowered confidence is an unstoppable force a chin up chest out kind of

force a chin up chest out kind of

force a chin up chest out kind of feeling that becomes all the more

feeling that becomes all the more

feeling that becomes all the more meaningful when you live the bulk of

meaningful when you live the bulk of

meaningful when you live the bulk of your life without it through education

your life without it through education

your life without it through education and empowerment individuals with autism

and empowerment individuals with autism

and empowerment individuals with autism can be free to go forward and have

can be free to go forward and have

can be free to go forward and have hopefully really really great sex

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