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How corporations become activists | Jill Doucette | TEDxRoyalRoadsU


my name’s Jill Doucet thank you so much

my name’s Jill Doucet thank you so much for having me here tonight it’s actually

for having me here tonight it’s actually

for having me here tonight it’s actually been on my bucket list to do a TEDx talk

been on my bucket list to do a TEDx talk

been on my bucket list to do a TEDx talk more specifically just to stand on this

more specifically just to stand on this

more specifically just to stand on this red carpet so anything after this is a

red carpet so anything after this is a

red carpet so anything after this is a bonus in my mind so my speech coach said

bonus in my mind so my speech coach said

bonus in my mind so my speech coach said if I get nervous just to start telling a

if I get nervous just to start telling a

if I get nervous just to start telling a story so my story starts on campus and

story so my story starts on campus and

story so my story starts on campus and it started living in a bit of a divide

it started living in a bit of a divide

it started living in a bit of a divide on the one hand I had a business and on

on the one hand I had a business and on

on the one hand I had a business and on the other hand I was taking

the other hand I was taking

the other hand I was taking environmental studies and this was quite

environmental studies and this was quite

environmental studies and this was quite awkward at that time I couldn’t afford

awkward at that time I couldn’t afford

awkward at that time I couldn’t afford University when I was 17 and I was too

University when I was 17 and I was too

University when I was 17 and I was too long young to get a student loan so I

long young to get a student loan so I

long young to get a student loan so I started the easiest company that there

started the easiest company that there

started the easiest company that there is to start at that age with not much

is to start at that age with not much

is to start at that age with not much skill which is a painting company and we

skill which is a painting company and we

skill which is a painting company and we had old trucks and ladders and we were

had old trucks and ladders and we were

had old trucks and ladders and we were pouring paint down downspouts because

pouring paint down downspouts because

pouring paint down downspouts because that was okay then and I was also in

that was okay then and I was also in

that was okay then and I was also in environmental science learning about how

environmental science learning about how

environmental science learning about how businesses are destroying the planet

businesses are destroying the planet

businesses are destroying the planet especially big trucks and carbon

especially big trucks and carbon

especially big trucks and carbon emissions and basically people liked me

emissions and basically people liked me

emissions and basically people liked me and I was thinking this sucks because I

and I was thinking this sucks because I

and I was thinking this sucks because I want to build something I want to I want

want to build something I want to I want

want to build something I want to I want to build my own career I want to be in

to build my own career I want to be in

to build my own career I want to be in business but I also want to make a

business but I also want to make a

business but I also want to make a difference in the world so I spent a

difference in the world so I spent a

difference in the world so I spent a couple years struggling in this divide

couple years struggling in this divide

couple years struggling in this divide and decided to sell all the equipment

and decided to sell all the equipment

and decided to sell all the equipment from the painting company closed it down

from the painting company closed it down

from the painting company closed it down I was getting burnt out anyways and I

I was getting burnt out anyways and I

I was getting burnt out anyways and I also dropped out of school because I was

also dropped out of school because I was

also dropped out of school because I was finding that it was making me really

finding that it was making me really

finding that it was making me really depress the rhetoric of corporations

depress the rhetoric of corporations

depress the rhetoric of corporations destroying the planet and yet my passion

destroying the planet and yet my passion

destroying the planet and yet my passion being in business so I decided to clear

being in business so I decided to clear

being in business so I decided to clear the slate and I started working at a

the slate and I started working at a

the slate and I started working at a coffee shop and volunteering for

coffee shop and volunteering for

coffee shop and volunteering for different nonprofits anything that

different nonprofits anything that

different nonprofits anything that piqued my interest anything that sparked

piqued my interest anything that sparked

piqued my interest anything that sparked passion and basically didn’t make me

passion and basically didn’t make me

passion and basically didn’t make me depressed and I ended up getting

depressed and I ended up getting

depressed and I ended up getting involved with a group on campus that was

involved with a group on campus that was

involved with a group on campus that was working to make the University of

working to make the University of

working to make the University of Victoria carbon neutral and this really

Victoria carbon neutral and this really

Victoria carbon neutral and this really fascinated me this concept of we can use

fascinated me this concept of we can use

fascinated me this concept of we can use organizations to create change and I

organizations to create change and I

organizations to create change and I thought could we apply this to business

thought could we apply this to business

thought could we apply this to business so I asked my boss at the coffee shop

so I asked my boss at the coffee shop

so I asked my boss at the coffee shop Dave if I could make his coffee shop

Dave if I could make his coffee shop

Dave if I could make his coffee shop carbon neutral and his response wasn’t

carbon neutral and his response wasn’t

carbon neutral and his response wasn’t entirely positive at first he said I’m

entirely positive at first he said I’m

entirely positive at first he said I’m gonna die in 40 years why do I care so

gonna die in 40 years why do I care so

gonna die in 40 years why do I care so that was a rough starting point and he

that was a rough starting point and he

that was a rough starting point and he challenged me to just tell him what the

challenged me to just tell him what the

challenged me to just tell him what the business

business

business was for him and this is in 2007-2008 so

was for him and this is in 2007-2008 so

was for him and this is in 2007-2008 so this is not really the right time to be

this is not really the right time to be

this is not really the right time to be adding a bunch of costs to a business

adding a bunch of costs to a business

adding a bunch of costs to a business they’re thinking no cut cut cut so it

they’re thinking no cut cut cut so it

they’re thinking no cut cut cut so it had to be I had to find some sort of

had to be I had to find some sort of

had to be I had to find some sort of common ground between business and

common ground between business and

common ground between business and sustainability so I pitched it again and

sustainability so I pitched it again and

sustainability so I pitched it again and said what if this is a differentiator

said what if this is a differentiator

said what if this is a differentiator what if we could make you the most

what if we could make you the most

what if we could make you the most popular coffee shop in town and that

popular coffee shop in town and that

popular coffee shop in town and that piqued his interest and he said okay

piqued his interest and he said okay

piqued his interest and he said okay maybe you have something here and he he

maybe you have something here and he he

maybe you have something here and he he was a smart guy he was very progressive

was a smart guy he was very progressive

was a smart guy he was very progressive so he saw the benefit so it was a

so he saw the benefit so it was a

so he saw the benefit so it was a year-long journey we made the coffee

year-long journey we made the coffee

year-long journey we made the coffee shop carbon neutral we reduced the

shop carbon neutral we reduced the

shop carbon neutral we reduced the energy and water costs we also had

energy and water costs we also had

energy and water costs we also had really great staff retention this was an

really great staff retention this was an

really great staff retention this was an unexpected benefit people were staying

unexpected benefit people were staying

unexpected benefit people were staying around twice as long and that’s a huge

around twice as long and that’s a huge

around twice as long and that’s a huge differentiator in the hospitality

differentiator in the hospitality

differentiator in the hospitality industry we were also able to slash the

industry we were also able to slash the

industry we were also able to slash the marketing budget because it was getting

marketing budget because it was getting

marketing budget because it was getting a ton of free press and customer loyalty

a ton of free press and customer loyalty

a ton of free press and customer loyalty was up so we found that in graining

was up so we found that in graining

was up so we found that in graining sustainability into an organization and

sustainability into an organization and

sustainability into an organization and doing it strategically can be better for

doing it strategically can be better for

doing it strategically can be better for business and this started to for me it

business and this started to for me it

business and this started to for me it started to break apart that false

started to break apart that false

started to break apart that false dichotomy between business and the

dichotomy between business and the

dichotomy between business and the environment so I had my case study and

environment so I had my case study and

environment so I had my case study and then the next business came in and said

then the next business came in and said

then the next business came in and said hey I have a large coffee roasting

hey I have a large coffee roasting

hey I have a large coffee roasting company can you help me make it carbon

company can you help me make it carbon

company can you help me make it carbon neutral and I said sure and we got

neutral and I said sure and we got

neutral and I said sure and we got started we started making reductions to

started we started making reductions to

started we started making reductions to their carbon footprint and I sent in my

their carbon footprint and I sent in my

their carbon footprint and I sent in my first invoice and I found it a couple

first invoice and I found it a couple

first invoice and I found it a couple months ago and it is it has Old English

months ago and it is it has Old English

months ago and it is it has Old English font it doesn’t even say invoice at the

font it doesn’t even say invoice at the

font it doesn’t even say invoice at the top it has clipart all around the sides

top it has clipart all around the sides

top it has clipart all around the sides like like I was trying to design it but

like like I was trying to design it but

like like I was trying to design it but clearly had no idea what I was doing it

clearly had no idea what I was doing it

clearly had no idea what I was doing it only had pages on my computer and then

only had pages on my computer and then

only had pages on my computer and then it just said at the bottom please make

it just said at the bottom please make

it just said at the bottom please make check to Jill and there they said we

check to Jill and there they said we

check to Jill and there they said we can’t just write a check to Jill like

can’t just write a check to Jill like

can’t just write a check to Jill like you got to start a business or something

you got to start a business or something

you got to start a business or something and that’s what launched synergy and I

and that’s what launched synergy and I

and that’s what launched synergy and I called it synergy because we’re bringing

called it synergy because we’re bringing

called it synergy because we’re bringing together motives from two different

together motives from two different

together motives from two different worlds business in the environment and

worlds business in the environment and

worlds business in the environment and having them work together and spent

having them work together and spent

having them work together and spent almost 10 years it’s been an incredible

almost 10 years it’s been an incredible

almost 10 years it’s been an incredible journey we’ve worked with businesses in

journey we’ve worked with businesses in

journey we’ve worked with businesses in the hospitality sector marinas hotels

the hospitality sector marinas hotels

the hospitality sector marinas hotels restaurants fashion companies all kinds

restaurants fashion companies all kinds

restaurants fashion companies all kinds of companies a lot of diversity and I

of companies a lot of diversity and I

of companies a lot of diversity and I feel so lucky to work with these

feel so lucky to work with these

feel so lucky to work with these entrepreneurs all the time and when I

entrepreneurs all the time and when I

entrepreneurs all the time and when I think back now to those projects that

think back now to those projects that

think back now to those projects that had the biggest impact they all started

had the biggest impact they all started

had the biggest impact they all started kind of an awkward conversation they all

kind of an awkward conversation they all

kind of an awkward conversation they all started from a place where

started from a place where

started from a place where we actually didn’t really share values

we actually didn’t really share values

we actually didn’t really share values similarly to my first conversations with

similarly to my first conversations with

similarly to my first conversations with Dave at the coffee shop I want to tell

Dave at the coffee shop I want to tell

Dave at the coffee shop I want to tell you a story about one particular

you a story about one particular

you a story about one particular business big whoa burger

business big whoa burger

business big whoa burger when I met Kalin McNeal was before big

when I met Kalin McNeal was before big

when I met Kalin McNeal was before big ol burger existed my friend Stacy

ol burger existed my friend Stacy

ol burger existed my friend Stacy introduced us and he said you got to

introduced us and he said you got to

introduced us and he said you got to meet this guy he wants to start a

meet this guy he wants to start a

meet this guy he wants to start a fast-food restaurants gonna be the next

fast-food restaurants gonna be the next

fast-food restaurants gonna be the next hot burger chain this is right after

hot burger chain this is right after

hot burger chain this is right after supersize me came out and all this stuff

supersize me came out and all this stuff

supersize me came out and all this stuff about fast food and I was thinking I

about fast food and I was thinking I

about fast food and I was thinking I don’t want to associate with that we

don’t want to associate with that we

don’t want to associate with that we probably have nothing in common and

probably have nothing in common and

probably have nothing in common and really fast food isn’t sustainable it’s

really fast food isn’t sustainable it’s

really fast food isn’t sustainable it’s so wasteful so I don’t even know if I

so wasteful so I don’t even know if I

so wasteful so I don’t even know if I want to go there but I took the meeting

want to go there but I took the meeting

want to go there but I took the meeting and you know Kailen is probably thinking

and you know Kailen is probably thinking

and you know Kailen is probably thinking the same thing like Stacy why are you

the same thing like Stacy why are you

the same thing like Stacy why are you trying to make me meet with this green

trying to make me meet with this green

trying to make me meet with this green girl she’s probably just gonna cost me a

girl she’s probably just gonna cost me a

girl she’s probably just gonna cost me a fortune she’s gonna talk about peace and

fortune she’s gonna talk about peace and

fortune she’s gonna talk about peace and love and I want to make money but he met

love and I want to make money but he met

love and I want to make money but he met with me anyways and I met with him

with me anyways and I met with him

with me anyways and I met with him anyways and we had a little tiny sliver

anyways and we had a little tiny sliver

anyways and we had a little tiny sliver of common ground not a lot but we had a

of common ground not a lot but we had a

of common ground not a lot but we had a little bit to work with and his idea was

little bit to work with and his idea was

little bit to work with and his idea was maybe this would be a good marketing

maybe this would be a good marketing

maybe this would be a good marketing angle I think people people want to see

angle I think people people want to see

angle I think people people want to see fast food is different so maybe we can

fast food is different so maybe we can

fast food is different so maybe we can reduce our waste and I was thinking the

reduce our waste and I was thinking the

reduce our waste and I was thinking the same thing I was also thinking we could

same thing I was also thinking we could

same thing I was also thinking we could change the world with this burger joint

change the world with this burger joint

change the world with this burger joint but I didn’t approach him with that

but I didn’t approach him with that

but I didn’t approach him with that first and he said he said okay let’s try

first and he said he said okay let’s try

first and he said he said okay let’s try this let’s just let’s try and find some

this let’s just let’s try and find some

this let’s just let’s try and find some compostable stuff and what will work

compostable stuff and what will work

compostable stuff and what will work from there today big will burger has

from there today big will burger has

from there today big will burger has three locations they’re all carbon

three locations they’re all carbon

three locations they’re all carbon neutral they produce less than 1% waste

neutral they produce less than 1% waste

neutral they produce less than 1% waste they are almost waste free except for

they are almost waste free except for

they are almost waste free except for the weird things that customers bring in

the weird things that customers bring in

the weird things that customers bring in sometimes everything on your tray is

sometimes everything on your tray is

sometimes everything on your tray is compostable so when you dump that tray

compostable so when you dump that tray

compostable so when you dump that tray it goes right into the compost that

it goes right into the compost that

it goes right into the compost that compost is used for community gardens

compost is used for community gardens

compost is used for community gardens which they have helped start and their

which they have helped start and their

which they have helped start and their fryer oil is used for biodiesel in their

fryer oil is used for biodiesel in their

fryer oil is used for biodiesel in their vans

vans

vans they’ve become an example for

they’ve become an example for

they’ve become an example for restaurants and other companies all over

restaurants and other companies all over

restaurants and other companies all over the world they get requests all the time

the world they get requests all the time

the world they get requests all the time to share their story and it’s been a

to share their story and it’s been a

to share their story and it’s been a huge marketing advantage they’ve reduced

huge marketing advantage they’ve reduced

huge marketing advantage they’ve reduced their energy and water use by 35% so

their energy and water use by 35% so

their energy and water use by 35% so that’s a huge cost advantage as well and

that’s a huge cost advantage as well and

that’s a huge cost advantage as well and we really dug into the business case on

we really dug into the business case on

we really dug into the business case on this one and Kalyn is now a champion for

this one and Kalyn is now a champion for

this one and Kalyn is now a champion for sustainability for triple bottom-line

sustainability for triple bottom-line

sustainability for triple bottom-line businesses and making a difference and

businesses and making a difference and

businesses and making a difference and that’s because entrepreneurs want to

that’s because entrepreneurs want to

that’s because entrepreneurs want to build things at the end of the day they

build things at the end of the day they

build things at the end of the day they want to create things and when you start

want to create things and when you start

want to create things and when you start a company you’re given one measure of

a company you’re given one measure of

a company you’re given one measure of success profit there you go go start

success profit there you go go start

success profit there you go go start your business so naturally that’s your

your business so naturally that’s your

your business so naturally that’s your measure of success and that’s what you

measure of success and that’s what you

measure of success and that’s what you use but once you start adding these new

use but once you start adding these new

use but once you start adding these new men

men

men the social metrics with your staff and

the social metrics with your staff and

the social metrics with your staff and their engagement happiness the

their engagement happiness the

their engagement happiness the environmental metrics with your carbon

environmental metrics with your carbon

environmental metrics with your carbon footprint and waste and energy you get

footprint and waste and energy you get

footprint and waste and energy you get and this is coming from Cailin he said I

and this is coming from Cailin he said I

and this is coming from Cailin he said I get the same buzz when I see those

get the same buzz when I see those

get the same buzz when I see those numbers as I do from having a really

numbers as I do from having a really

numbers as I do from having a really good income statement that says a nice

good income statement that says a nice

good income statement that says a nice big profit at the bottom it’s not to say

big profit at the bottom it’s not to say

big profit at the bottom it’s not to say he doesn’t care about profit anymore of

he doesn’t care about profit anymore of

he doesn’t care about profit anymore of course he does he’s a smart businessman

course he does he’s a smart businessman

course he does he’s a smart businessman but he also cares about making a

but he also cares about making a

but he also cares about making a difference and he saw that these two can

difference and he saw that these two can

difference and he saw that these two can work together so this is great we can

work together so this is great we can

work together so this is great we can harness capitalism to create change and

harness capitalism to create change and

harness capitalism to create change and that’s what we do alt all day every day

that’s what we do alt all day every day

that’s what we do alt all day every day but there is a big barrier in our way

but there is a big barrier in our way

but there is a big barrier in our way and it isn’t technology and it isn’t

and it isn’t technology and it isn’t

and it isn’t technology and it isn’t regulation it isn’t the ones we normally

regulation it isn’t the ones we normally

regulation it isn’t the ones we normally think about it’s actually a social one

think about it’s actually a social one

think about it’s actually a social one and it affects all of us and goes back

and it affects all of us and goes back

and it affects all of us and goes back to that first conversation I had with

to that first conversation I had with

to that first conversation I had with Dave and Kalyn and in both of those

Dave and Kalyn and in both of those

Dave and Kalyn and in both of those conversations I was hesitant to even

conversations I was hesitant to even

conversations I was hesitant to even start it I almost didn’t want to go and

start it I almost didn’t want to go and

start it I almost didn’t want to go and just a couple months ago I had the

just a couple months ago I had the

just a couple months ago I had the opportunity to to reach out to a

opportunity to to reach out to a

opportunity to to reach out to a business that was one of those big

business that was one of those big

business that was one of those big corporate brands the evil ones you know

corporate brands the evil ones you know

corporate brands the evil ones you know we’ve all got them in our head and I

we’ve all got them in our head and I

we’ve all got them in our head and I thought I’m not even gonna go there I

thought I’m not even gonna go there I

thought I’m not even gonna go there I don’t respect them they don’t they don’t

don’t respect them they don’t they don’t

don’t respect them they don’t they don’t share my values so forget it and then I

share my values so forget it and then I

share my values so forget it and then I thought back to those first

thought back to those first

thought back to those first conversations with Dave and Kalyn and we

conversations with Dave and Kalyn and we

conversations with Dave and Kalyn and we didn’t share values either Kalyn didn’t

didn’t share values either Kalyn didn’t

didn’t share values either Kalyn didn’t come in as a crusading environmentalist

come in as a crusading environmentalist

come in as a crusading environmentalist and say let’s change the world with

and say let’s change the world with

and say let’s change the world with burgers sort of happened after but

burgers sort of happened after but

burgers sort of happened after but that’s not how we started we started

that’s not how we started we started

that’s not how we started we started from a tiny sliver of common ground and

from a tiny sliver of common ground and

from a tiny sliver of common ground and what really concerns me right now is the

what really concerns me right now is the

what really concerns me right now is the way we filter our information and silo

way we filter our information and silo

way we filter our information and silo ourselves into groups that just share

ourselves into groups that just share

ourselves into groups that just share our values and I do this too I do it all

our values and I do this too I do it all

our values and I do this too I do it all the time and I’ve become much more aware

the time and I’ve become much more aware

the time and I’ve become much more aware of it I have to remind myself always to

of it I have to remind myself always to

of it I have to remind myself always to not judge to start those conversations

not judge to start those conversations

not judge to start those conversations and sit at the table because you never

and sit at the table because you never

and sit at the table because you never know where that’s gonna go so I’ve been

know where that’s gonna go so I’ve been

know where that’s gonna go so I’ve been looking for the silver bullet solution

looking for the silver bullet solution

looking for the silver bullet solution to climate change for about 15 years now

to climate change for about 15 years now

to climate change for about 15 years now and not just like on reddit on

and not just like on reddit on

and not just like on reddit on commercial breaks looking for solutions

commercial breaks looking for solutions

commercial breaks looking for solutions but like nine-to-five all the friggin

but like nine-to-five all the friggin

but like nine-to-five all the friggin time looking for how we can create

time looking for how we can create

time looking for how we can create change cuz I’m really passionate about

change cuz I’m really passionate about

change cuz I’m really passionate about solving climate change and there is no

solving climate change and there is no

solving climate change and there is no silver bullet there’s a myriad of

silver bullet there’s a myriad of

silver bullet there’s a myriad of amazing solutions but I do believe our

amazing solutions but I do believe our

amazing solutions but I do believe our biggest opportunity is to break down

biggest opportunity is to break down

biggest opportunity is to break down those silos that we exist

those silos that we exist

those silos that we exist and start having those uncomfortable

and start having those uncomfortable

and start having those uncomfortable conversations find that tiny sliver of

conversations find that tiny sliver of

conversations find that tiny sliver of common ground and see where that goes so

common ground and see where that goes so

common ground and see where that goes so I have to go back and make a meeting

I have to go back and make a meeting

I have to go back and make a meeting that I didn’t want to set in the first

that I didn’t want to set in the first

that I didn’t want to set in the first place and it’s gonna be uncomfortable

place and it’s gonna be uncomfortable

place and it’s gonna be uncomfortable but if we can start those conversations

but if we can start those conversations

but if we can start those conversations and create change I think we can really

and create change I think we can really

and create change I think we can really make a difference in our world and I

make a difference in our world and I

make a difference in our world and I want to leave you with the thought about

want to leave you with the thought about

want to leave you with the thought about just as a proof point how we filter

just as a proof point how we filter

just as a proof point how we filter ourselves on social media I’m sure all

ourselves on social media I’m sure all

ourselves on social media I’m sure all of you can relate to this idea of you

of you can relate to this idea of you

of you can relate to this idea of you see someone have a rant on Facebook or

see someone have a rant on Facebook or

see someone have a rant on Facebook or on Instagram or whatever medium and you

on Instagram or whatever medium and you

on Instagram or whatever medium and you go hide lock unfollow I don’t want to

go hide lock unfollow I don’t want to

go hide lock unfollow I don’t want to see it it gives me that icky feeling

see it it gives me that icky feeling

see it it gives me that icky feeling where it doesn’t radiate exactly with my

where it doesn’t radiate exactly with my

where it doesn’t radiate exactly with my thoughts my beliefs so I’m gonna filter

thoughts my beliefs so I’m gonna filter

thoughts my beliefs so I’m gonna filter you out and I do this too I do it often

you out and I do this too I do it often

you out and I do this too I do it often and I’ve realized that that is just

and I’ve realized that that is just

and I’ve realized that that is just another way that I’m pulling myself

another way that I’m pulling myself

another way that I’m pulling myself deeper into a silo only with people that

deeper into a silo only with people that

deeper into a silo only with people that believe what I believe so my challenge

believe what I believe so my challenge

believe what I believe so my challenge to you is to think about how you want to

to you is to think about how you want to

to you is to think about how you want to make a difference in the world and how

make a difference in the world and how

make a difference in the world and how you can collaborate with people who

you can collaborate with people who

you can collaborate with people who don’t share your values to make that

don’t share your values to make that

don’t share your values to make that happen

happen

happen thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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