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The vulnerability of dual citizenship in Australia | Kim Rubenstein | TEDxFulbrightCanberra


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[Music] when I returned to Australia in 2003

when I returned to Australia in 2003

when I returned to Australia in 2003 after a wonderful six-month stint as a

after a wonderful six-month stint as a

after a wonderful six-month stint as a Fulbright Scholar at Georgetown

Fulbright Scholar at Georgetown

Fulbright Scholar at Georgetown University in Washington DC my family

University in Washington DC my family

University in Washington DC my family and I was severely jet-lagged so by the

and I was severely jet-lagged so by the

and I was severely jet-lagged so by the time we made it to dinner and then

time we made it to dinner and then

time we made it to dinner and then two-year-old was sound asleep so my

two-year-old was sound asleep so my

two-year-old was sound asleep so my husband over dinner turned to our

husband over dinner turned to our

husband over dinner turned to our four-year-old and asked her how would

four-year-old and asked her how would

four-year-old and asked her how would you describe your brother she stopped

you describe your brother she stopped

you describe your brother she stopped and reflected and proclaimed he’s a very

and reflected and proclaimed he’s a very

and reflected and proclaimed he’s a very happy boy who likes eating meat and he’s

happy boy who likes eating meat and he’s

happy boy who likes eating meat and he’s an Australian well I was taken aback

an Australian well I was taken aback

an Australian well I was taken aback how many four-year-olds would sink to

how many four-year-olds would sink to

how many four-year-olds would sink to identify by their nationality but that

identify by their nationality but that

identify by their nationality but that Fulbright experience benefited all of us

Fulbright experience benefited all of us

Fulbright experience benefited all of us she was at an early age able to

she was at an early age able to

she was at an early age able to recognize from her preschool experience

recognize from her preschool experience

recognize from her preschool experience that in some ways she was different

that in some ways she was different

that in some ways she was different she was an Australian but that in so

she was an Australian but that in so

she was an Australian but that in so many other ways she was the same there

many other ways she was the same there

many other ways she was the same there was empathy and transformation

was empathy and transformation

was empathy and transformation I was working then and have continued to

I was working then and have continued to

I was working then and have continued to work on questions of citizenship and

work on questions of citizenship and

work on questions of citizenship and globalization and this has become even

globalization and this has become even

globalization and this has become even more pressing over the past few years

more pressing over the past few years

more pressing over the past few years with concerns about terrorism my message

with concerns about terrorism my message

with concerns about terrorism my message tonight is that the focus on security

tonight is that the focus on security

tonight is that the focus on security and terrorism has distorted our

and terrorism has distorted our

and terrorism has distorted our discussions on citizenship citizenship

discussions on citizenship citizenship

discussions on citizenship citizenship is a device for inclusion it is a frame

is a device for inclusion it is a frame

is a device for inclusion it is a frame for empathy

for empathy

for empathy and transformation but instead over the

and transformation but instead over the

and transformation but instead over the past few years leaders all around the

past few years leaders all around the

past few years leaders all around the world have focused on citizenship as

world have focused on citizenship as

world have focused on citizenship as exclusion which has led to a

exclusion which has led to a

exclusion which has led to a vulnerability for dual citizens in

vulnerability for dual citizens in

vulnerability for dual citizens in Australia I’m interested in this room

Australia I’m interested in this room

Australia I’m interested in this room how many of you actually hold more than

how many of you actually hold more than

how many of you actually hold more than one citizenship a significant number and

one citizenship a significant number and

one citizenship a significant number and then if I move to ask how many of you

then if I move to ask how many of you

then if I move to ask how many of you know other people who are dual citizens

know other people who are dual citizens

know other people who are dual citizens in Australia

in Australia

in Australia let’s now raise our hands of course we

let’s now raise our hands of course we

let’s now raise our hands of course we all do we live in a multicultural

all do we live in a multicultural

all do we live in a multicultural society and this is a good thing it’s

society and this is a good thing it’s

society and this is a good thing it’s positive to be a dual citizen there are

positive to be a dual citizen there are

positive to be a dual citizen there are so many benefits we can travel we can

so many benefits we can travel we can

so many benefits we can travel we can connect to more than one country we can

connect to more than one country we can

connect to more than one country we can also benefit Australia by enriching

also benefit Australia by enriching

also benefit Australia by enriching Australia’s sense of itself in an

Australia’s sense of itself in an

Australia’s sense of itself in an international world however over the

international world however over the

international world however over the last couple of years our politicians and

last couple of years our politicians and

last couple of years our politicians and representatives have used the device of

representatives have used the device of

representatives have used the device of citizenship as a form of exclusion and

citizenship as a form of exclusion and

citizenship as a form of exclusion and of concentrating on questions of

of concentrating on questions of

of concentrating on questions of allegiance in being concerned about the

allegiance in being concerned about the

allegiance in being concerned about the security of Australian citizens both

security of Australian citizens both

security of Australian citizens both here and abroad in fact at the end of

here and abroad in fact at the end of

here and abroad in fact at the end of 2015 the government introduced an

2015 the government introduced an

2015 the government introduced an amendment to the Australian citizenship

amendment to the Australian citizenship

amendment to the Australian citizenship Act it is now the case that if you are a

Act it is now the case that if you are a

Act it is now the case that if you are a dual citizen and you go overseas and

dual citizen and you go overseas and

dual citizen and you go overseas and commit certain terrorist offences that

commit certain terrorist offences that

commit certain terrorist offences that you will be subject to the loss of your

you will be subject to the loss of your

you will be subject to the loss of your Australian citizenship even if you were

Australian citizenship even if you were

Australian citizenship even if you were born in Australia now

born in Australia now

born in Australia now don’t get me wrong I am not condoning

don’t get me wrong I am not condoning

don’t get me wrong I am not condoning that activity in any sense but the real

that activity in any sense but the real

that activity in any sense but the real question is is citizenship the correct

question is is citizenship the correct

question is is citizenship the correct device for punishing those individuals

device for punishing those individuals

device for punishing those individuals moreover does stripping them of their

moreover does stripping them of their

moreover does stripping them of their citizenship

citizenship

citizenship necessarily protect us anymore

necessarily protect us anymore

necessarily protect us anymore indeed as individuals from Australia

indeed as individuals from Australia

indeed as individuals from Australia travel overseas often how much more

travel overseas often how much more

travel overseas often how much more protected are they if those individuals

protected are they if those individuals

protected are they if those individuals are still out there without the

are still out there without the

are still out there without the connection of the Australian government

connection of the Australian government

connection of the Australian government to manage their activity but there is an

to manage their activity but there is an

to manage their activity but there is an even more significant issue in my view

even more significant issue in my view

even more significant issue in my view and that is that it is only dual

and that is that it is only dual

and that is that it is only dual citizens who will be subject to the loss

citizens who will be subject to the loss

citizens who will be subject to the loss of their citizenship if you look at the

of their citizenship if you look at the

of their citizenship if you look at the person next to you and think one of you

person next to you and think one of you

person next to you and think one of you is an sole Australian citizen and the

is an sole Australian citizen and the

is an sole Australian citizen and the other is a dual citizen and the two of

other is a dual citizen and the two of

other is a dual citizen and the two of you conduct exactly the same activity

you conduct exactly the same activity

you conduct exactly the same activity overseas only the dual citizen will lose

overseas only the dual citizen will lose

overseas only the dual citizen will lose their Australian citizenship now the

their Australian citizenship now the

their Australian citizenship now the reason for this is because Australia

reason for this is because Australia

reason for this is because Australia rightly in my view is a signatory to the

rightly in my view is a signatory to the

rightly in my view is a signatory to the Convention on the reduction of

Convention on the reduction of

Convention on the reduction of statelessness so the argument was

statelessness so the argument was

statelessness so the argument was successfully put at the time of the

successfully put at the time of the

successfully put at the time of the discussion of this new provision that we

discussion of this new provision that we

discussion of this new provision that we could not strip sole Australian citizens

could not strip sole Australian citizens

could not strip sole Australian citizens who conduct that activity overseas of

who conduct that activity overseas of

who conduct that activity overseas of their citizenship because that would

their citizenship because that would

their citizenship because that would leave them stateless and being stateless

leave them stateless and being stateless

leave them stateless and being stateless of course is not a positive position to

of course is not a positive position to

of course is not a positive position to be in but it reminds us of the

be in but it reminds us of the

be in but it reminds us of the significance of the status of

significance of the status of

significance of the status of citizenship so we have created an

citizenship so we have created an

citizenship so we have created an environment where it is no longer secure

environment where it is no longer secure

environment where it is no longer secure we are no longer secure as dual citizens

we are no longer secure as dual citizens

we are no longer secure as dual citizens in the protection of that very

in the protection of that very

in the protection of that very significant status so why this move and

significant status so why this move and

significant status so why this move and concern about dual citizenship well in a

concern about dual citizenship well in a

concern about dual citizenship well in a time of questions of allegiance there is

time of questions of allegiance there is

time of questions of allegiance there is an easy Avenue for politicians to use

an easy Avenue for politicians to use

an easy Avenue for politicians to use that device to proclaim a sense of

that device to proclaim a sense of

that device to proclaim a sense of action and there are many people in

action and there are many people in

action and there are many people in society who questioned your citizenship

society who questioned your citizenship

society who questioned your citizenship if we go back to the family environment

if we go back to the family environment

if we go back to the family environment we can think of the two different

we can think of the two different

we can think of the two different responses to dual citizenship in the

responses to dual citizenship in the

responses to dual citizenship in the following way if you think of

following way if you think of

following way if you think of citizenship like marriage then the

citizenship like marriage then the

citizenship like marriage then the notion of only having one partner one

notion of only having one partner one

notion of only having one partner one citizenship makes sense however if you

citizenship makes sense however if you

citizenship makes sense however if you think of citizenship more like

think of citizenship more like

think of citizenship more like Parenthood we all know that we can have

Parenthood we all know that we can have

Parenthood we all know that we can have more than one child without that

more than one child without that

more than one child without that undermining our sense of commitment and

undermining our sense of commitment and

undermining our sense of commitment and loyalty and concern for any of our

loyalty and concern for any of our

loyalty and concern for any of our children so whilst our daughter on that

children so whilst our daughter on that

children so whilst our daughter on that evening had the sole attention of her

evening had the sole attention of her

evening had the sole attention of her parents she also had the security of

parents she also had the security of

parents she also had the security of knowing that her brother would be awake

knowing that her brother would be awake

knowing that her brother would be awake before too long to share that love and

before too long to share that love and

before too long to share that love and attention and I believe that we should

attention and I believe that we should

attention and I believe that we should be campaigning politicians and our

be campaigning politicians and our

be campaigning politicians and our representatives to recognize that we

representatives to recognize that we

representatives to recognize that we must think of dual citizenship like

must think of dual citizenship like

must think of dual citizenship like Parenthood and to resist these moves

Parenthood and to resist these moves

Parenthood and to resist these moves towards using citizenship as a device of

towards using citizenship as a device of

towards using citizenship as a device of exclusion we should return to affirming

exclusion we should return to affirming

exclusion we should return to affirming the multicultural nature of Australia

the multicultural nature of Australia

the multicultural nature of Australia and resist the resistance to dual

and resist the resistance to dual

and resist the resistance to dual citizenship

citizenship

citizenship [Applause]

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