
I want to speak to you today about a subject that is somehow difficult for
subject that is somehow difficult for
subject that is somehow difficult for many people to hear about but I want to
many people to hear about but I want to
many people to hear about but I want to help you understand it the subject is
help you understand it the subject is
help you understand it the subject is genocide genocide in the 20th century
genocide genocide in the 20th century
genocide genocide in the 20th century killed 200 million people more than all
killed 200 million people more than all
killed 200 million people more than all of the international and civil wars
of the international and civil wars
of the international and civil wars combined the first genocide I saw was in
combined the first genocide I saw was in
combined the first genocide I saw was in Cambodia in 1980 Church World Service
Cambodia in 1980 Church World Service
Cambodia in 1980 Church World Service and care asked me and my wife to go to
and care asked me and my wife to go to
and care asked me and my wife to go to Cambodia to establish a relief program I
Cambodia to establish a relief program I
Cambodia to establish a relief program I hadn’t applied for the job and at first
hadn’t applied for the job and at first
hadn’t applied for the job and at first I didn’t want to go we had planned to
I didn’t want to go we had planned to
I didn’t want to go we had planned to start a family and didn’t think going to
start a family and didn’t think going to
start a family and didn’t think going to Cambodia was such a good idea in 1980
Cambodia was such a good idea in 1980
Cambodia was such a good idea in 1980 little did we know the Khmer Rouge who
little did we know the Khmer Rouge who
little did we know the Khmer Rouge who had been in power from 1975 through 1979
killed 2 million Cambodians out of 8
killed 2 million Cambodians out of 8 million a quarter of the population
million a quarter of the population
million a quarter of the population there were a Maoist communist movement
there were a Maoist communist movement
there were a Maoist communist movement so I made a fateful promise
so I made a fateful promise
so I made a fateful promise I promised church world service I’d pray
I promised church world service I’d pray
I promised church world service I’d pray about it I’ve prayed about every
about it I’ve prayed about every
about it I’ve prayed about every important decision of my life
important decision of my life
important decision of my life well this time the the message was clear
well this time the the message was clear
well this time the the message was clear and consistent and as my labor law
and consistent and as my labor law
and consistent and as my labor law professor put it
professor put it
professor put it Jack Kepler who’s Jewish Greg you don’t
Jack Kepler who’s Jewish Greg you don’t
Jack Kepler who’s Jewish Greg you don’t have any choice you’ve been called I
have any choice you’ve been called I
have any choice you’ve been called I thought I’d been called to hand out rice
thought I’d been called to hand out rice
thought I’d been called to hand out rice and rice seed and vaccines and school
and rice seed and vaccines and school
and rice seed and vaccines and school supplies what I didn’t know
supplies what I didn’t know
supplies what I didn’t know was that I had been called to witness
was that I had been called to witness
was that I had been called to witness the aftermath of the Cambodian genocide
the aftermath of the Cambodian genocide
the aftermath of the Cambodian genocide it was a call that changed my life
genocide is the worst of all crimes
genocide is the worst of all crimes against humanity it is defined as the
against humanity it is defined as the
against humanity it is defined as the intentional destruction in whole or in
intentional destruction in whole or in
intentional destruction in whole or in part of a national ethnic racial or
part of a national ethnic racial or
part of a national ethnic racial or religious group and it would include
religious group and it would include
religious group and it would include political and social groups as well if
political and social groups as well if
political and social groups as well if Stalin hadn’t taken those out of the
Stalin hadn’t taken those out of the
Stalin hadn’t taken those out of the Genocide Convention the reason it is the
Genocide Convention the reason it is the
Genocide Convention the reason it is the worst is because it directly attacks the
worst is because it directly attacks the
worst is because it directly attacks the diversity of the human race all human
diversity of the human race all human
diversity of the human race all human beings are hurt by genocide the
beings are hurt by genocide the
beings are hurt by genocide the elimination of any culture impoverishes
elimination of any culture impoverishes
elimination of any culture impoverishes all of us and the Khmer Rouge had
all of us and the Khmer Rouge had
all of us and the Khmer Rouge had committed genocide I was among the first
committed genocide I was among the first
committed genocide I was among the first Westerners to see the opening of the
Westerners to see the opening of the
Westerners to see the opening of the mass graves at Cheung ACK where over
mass graves at Cheung ACK where over
mass graves at Cheung ACK where over 7,000 people had been buried victims of
7,000 people had been buried victims of
7,000 people had been buried victims of the tool slaying extermination prison in
the tool slaying extermination prison in
the tool slaying extermination prison in padam penh there were so many bodies
padam penh there were so many bodies
padam penh there were so many bodies there that the process of destruction of
there that the process of destruction of
there that the process of destruction of the flesh had not even been completed
the flesh had not even been completed
the flesh had not even been completed there was still flesh on human bones
there was still flesh on human bones
there was still flesh on human bones I saw one tiny skeleton with a Mickey
I saw one tiny skeleton with a Mickey
I saw one tiny skeleton with a Mickey Mouse t-shirt and I wept how could
Mouse t-shirt and I wept how could
Mouse t-shirt and I wept how could anybody how could anybody commit such a
anybody how could anybody commit such a
anybody how could anybody commit such a crime and I talked to the survivors
crime and I talked to the survivors
crime and I talked to the survivors every every person had lost members of
every every person had lost members of
every every person had lost members of their family a woman named Sophie Das
their family a woman named Sophie Das
their family a woman named Sophie Das who was a charm Muslim woman
who was a charm Muslim woman
who was a charm Muslim woman told me how on one terrible evening in
told me how on one terrible evening in
told me how on one terrible evening in 1977 the Khmer Rouge had clubbed to
1977 the Khmer Rouge had clubbed to
1977 the Khmer Rouge had clubbed to death five thousand people in her
death five thousand people in her
death five thousand people in her village and dumped their bodies over a
village and dumped their bodies over a
village and dumped their bodies over a cliff
cliff
cliff including her her whole family how they
including her her whole family how they
including her her whole family how they had in fact soaked her husband in
had in fact soaked her husband in
had in fact soaked her husband in gasoline before they set him on fire and
gasoline before they set him on fire and
gasoline before they set him on fire and how they had taken her grandchild and
how they had taken her grandchild and
how they had taken her grandchild and beaten her head against a tree and guy
beaten her head against a tree and guy
beaten her head against a tree and guy Mariana told me how she had helped her
Mariana told me how she had helped her
Mariana told me how she had helped her sister-in-law suckle her newborn baby
sister-in-law suckle her newborn baby
sister-in-law suckle her newborn baby and then when the orders came to move
and then when the orders came to move
and then when the orders came to move the commune she and her sister-in-law
the commune she and her sister-in-law
the commune she and her sister-in-law had set out but her sister-in-law had
had set out but her sister-in-law had
had set out but her sister-in-law had only given birth about eight weeks
only given birth about eight weeks
only given birth about eight weeks before and she fell behind and so she
before and she fell behind and so she
before and she fell behind and so she gave guy Mariana her baby and so guide
gave guy Mariana her baby and so guide
gave guy Mariana her baby and so guide Mariana had two babies to take care of
Mariana had two babies to take care of
Mariana had two babies to take care of and a Khmer Rouge soldier came up and
and a Khmer Rouge soldier came up and
and a Khmer Rouge soldier came up and took the sister-in-laws baby and threw
took the sister-in-laws baby and threw
took the sister-in-laws baby and threw him into the jungle to die you have no
him into the jungle to die you have no
him into the jungle to die you have no need for two small babies
need for two small babies
need for two small babies he explained but perhaps it was the
he explained but perhaps it was the
he explained but perhaps it was the orphans who were the hardest to drive
orphans who were the hardest to drive
orphans who were the hardest to drive out of my mind
out of my mind
out of my mind Chauhan father told me how she had
Chauhan father told me how she had
Chauhan father told me how she had survived only by hiding under the body
survived only by hiding under the body
survived only by hiding under the body of her sister who was dead in a mass
of her sister who was dead in a mass
of her sister who was dead in a mass grave and the pnom Penn stationmaster
grave and the pnom Penn stationmaster
grave and the pnom Penn stationmaster son told me how he had had to watch his
son told me how he had had to watch his
son told me how he had had to watch his parents disemboweled in front of his
parents disemboweled in front of his
parents disemboweled in front of his eyes the Khmer Rouge had left a hole in
eyes the Khmer Rouge had left a hole in
eyes the Khmer Rouge had left a hole in his heart that couldn’t be filled by all
his heart that couldn’t be filled by all
his heart that couldn’t be filled by all of his tears
it was the charm
it was the charm and the Vietnamese who were specially
and the Vietnamese who were specially
and the Vietnamese who were specially targeted and these two men here are
targeted and these two men here are
targeted and these two men here are chunks John Muslims a minority of about
chunks John Muslims a minority of about
chunks John Muslims a minority of about 500,000 people in Cambodia the Khmer
500,000 people in Cambodia the Khmer
500,000 people in Cambodia the Khmer Rouge decided they would eliminate them
Rouge decided they would eliminate them
Rouge decided they would eliminate them and so they simply took away all of the
and so they simply took away all of the
and so they simply took away all of the chomp children made them join Khmer
chomp children made them join Khmer
chomp children made them join Khmer speaking communists for bad all chance
speaking communists for bad all chance
speaking communists for bad all chance to speak their own Shan language and
to speak their own Shan language and
to speak their own Shan language and then killed over half of the towns in
then killed over half of the towns in
then killed over half of the towns in Cambodia that was a clear case of the
Cambodia that was a clear case of the
Cambodia that was a clear case of the intentional destruction of part of an
intentional destruction of part of an
intentional destruction of part of an ethnic and religious group it was
ethnic and religious group it was
ethnic and religious group it was genocide and they had also of course
genocide and they had also of course
genocide and they had also of course killed well over a million of their own
killed well over a million of their own
killed well over a million of their own people the Khmer people now when I came
people the Khmer people now when I came
people the Khmer people now when I came back from Cambodia in 1981 I should have
back from Cambodia in 1981 I should have
back from Cambodia in 1981 I should have been elated a bright future ahead of me
been elated a bright future ahead of me
been elated a bright future ahead of me and yet I went into a very deep
and yet I went into a very deep
and yet I went into a very deep depression and so at the wise advice of
depression and so at the wise advice of
depression and so at the wise advice of my wife I went to see a psychiatrist for
my wife I went to see a psychiatrist for
my wife I went to see a psychiatrist for the first time in my life and she told
the first time in my life and she told
the first time in my life and she told me Gregg if you weren’t depressed after
me Gregg if you weren’t depressed after
me Gregg if you weren’t depressed after what you’ve seen there would be
what you’ve seen there would be
what you’ve seen there would be something wrong with you
depression she said is repressed anger
depression she said is repressed anger what are you angry about and I said I’m
what are you angry about and I said I’m
what are you angry about and I said I’m mad as hell that the Khmer Rouge have
mad as hell that the Khmer Rouge have
mad as hell that the Khmer Rouge have gotten away with mass murder and she
gotten away with mass murder and she
gotten away with mass murder and she looked me straight in the eye and she
looked me straight in the eye and she
looked me straight in the eye and she said so what are you going to do about
said so what are you going to do about
said so what are you going to do about it
it
it it was another call
it was another call
it was another call because I realized that instead of
because I realized that instead of
because I realized that instead of turning that anger destructively against
turning that anger destructively against
turning that anger destructively against myself I needed to find a way to channel
myself I needed to find a way to channel
myself I needed to find a way to channel it into finding justice for Cambodians
it into finding justice for Cambodians
it into finding justice for Cambodians to find a way to bring the Khmer Rouge
to find a way to bring the Khmer Rouge
to find a way to bring the Khmer Rouge to justice now at that time there was no
to justice now at that time there was no
to justice now at that time there was no court to bring them – there were no
court to bring them – there were no
court to bring them – there were no individual trials possible under the
individual trials possible under the
individual trials possible under the Genocide Convention so I went to my law
Genocide Convention so I went to my law
Genocide Convention so I went to my law professors and we talked about how we
professors and we talked about how we
professors and we talked about how we might in fact bring this this case so
might in fact bring this this case so
might in fact bring this this case so that at least the world would know what
that at least the world would know what
that at least the world would know what had happened and we found that there was
had happened and we found that there was
had happened and we found that there was a way the International Court of Justice
a way the International Court of Justice
a way the International Court of Justice could actually hear a case state versus
could actually hear a case state versus
could actually hear a case state versus State not against individuals in which
State not against individuals in which
State not against individuals in which we could bring the evidence and it could
we could bring the evidence and it could
we could bring the evidence and it could be heard so I went back to Yale and
be heard so I went back to Yale and
be heard so I went back to Yale and Myers mcdougal who was probably the
Myers mcdougal who was probably the
Myers mcdougal who was probably the greatest international lawyer in the
greatest international lawyer in the
greatest international lawyer in the world and it was also a Mississippi
world and it was also a Mississippi
world and it was also a Mississippi gentleman looked at me and he said well
gentleman looked at me and he said well
gentleman looked at me and he said well great why don’t you do it and I said but
great why don’t you do it and I said but
great why don’t you do it and I said but I’m just a just a law student and then
I’m just a just a law student and then
I’m just a just a law student and then he looked at me and he leaned back and
he looked at me and he leaned back and
he looked at me and he leaned back and he said yes son but your Yale Law
he said yes son but your Yale Law
he said yes son but your Yale Law student
student
student now I know that was pure Ivy League
now I know that was pure Ivy League
now I know that was pure Ivy League arrogance but it also was an
arrogance but it also was an
arrogance but it also was an encouragement and it was certainly a
encouragement and it was certainly a
encouragement and it was certainly a call and so I went to Cambodia to get
call and so I went to Cambodia to get
call and so I went to Cambodia to get permission to gather the evidence and
permission to gather the evidence and
permission to gather the evidence and the Cambodian genocide project which is
the Cambodian genocide project which is
the Cambodian genocide project which is still going at Yale was born and over
still going at Yale was born and over
still going at Yale was born and over the 1980s we gathered thousands of pages
the 1980s we gathered thousands of pages
the 1980s we gathered thousands of pages of evidence well actually tens of
of evidence well actually tens of
of evidence well actually tens of thousands of pages because the Khmer
thousands of pages because the Khmer
thousands of pages because the Khmer Rouge like many genocide or regimes had
Rouge like many genocide or regimes had
Rouge like many genocide or regimes had a desire to make records of their crimes
a desire to make records of their crimes
a desire to make records of their crimes and yet we could not find one state
and yet we could not find one state
and yet we could not find one state willing to take it to the International
willing to take it to the International
willing to take it to the International Court of Justice what I learned was
Court of Justice what I learned was
Court of Justice what I learned was international law is weak not because it
international law is weak not because it
international law is weak not because it doesn’t exist it’s weak because there is
doesn’t exist it’s weak because there is
doesn’t exist it’s weak because there is not the political will to enforce it and
not the political will to enforce it and
not the political will to enforce it and so genocide us get away with their
so genocide us get away with their
so genocide us get away with their crimes and have impunity well by 1992
crimes and have impunity well by 1992
crimes and have impunity well by 1992 the Cold War was more or less over and
the Cold War was more or less over and
the Cold War was more or less over and so with Senator Rob we wrote a an act
so with Senator Rob we wrote a an act
so with Senator Rob we wrote a an act called the Cambodian genocide justice
called the Cambodian genocide justice
called the Cambodian genocide justice act which was designed to reverse u.s.
act which was designed to reverse u.s.
act which was designed to reverse u.s. foreign policy make it official policy
foreign policy make it official policy
foreign policy make it official policy of the United States to favor trials of
of the United States to favor trials of
of the United States to favor trials of the Khmer Rouge but I knew if that act
the Khmer Rouge but I knew if that act
the Khmer Rouge but I knew if that act was to be made effective somebody had to
was to be made effective somebody had to
was to be made effective somebody had to get inside the State Department to make
get inside the State Department to make
get inside the State Department to make it happen and so I gave up my law
it happen and so I gave up my law
it happen and so I gave up my law professor ship I took the foreign
professor ship I took the foreign
professor ship I took the foreign service exam and I joined the State
service exam and I joined the State
service exam and I joined the State Department
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and my first assignment was Bangkok and
and my first assignment was Bangkok and I was a consular officer out there but
I was a consular officer out there but
I was a consular officer out there but then genocide struck again in 1994 in
then genocide struck again in 1994 in
then genocide struck again in 1994 in 1994 the Rwandan genocide killed 800,000
1994 the Rwandan genocide killed 800,000
1994 the Rwandan genocide killed 800,000 people in just three months and so I
people in just three months and so I
people in just three months and so I went and they sent me out to Rwanda with
went and they sent me out to Rwanda with
went and they sent me out to Rwanda with the UN Commission of Inquiry which
the UN Commission of Inquiry which
the UN Commission of Inquiry which recommended that we set up an
recommended that we set up an
recommended that we set up an international tribunal and so I wrote
international tribunal and so I wrote
international tribunal and so I wrote the UN Security Council resolutions that
the UN Security Council resolutions that
the UN Security Council resolutions that created the International Criminal
created the International Criminal
created the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda and that tribunal by
Tribunal for Rwanda and that tribunal by
Tribunal for Rwanda and that tribunal by the time it closed in 2015 indicted 93
the time it closed in 2015 indicted 93
the time it closed in 2015 indicted 93 people and convicted 62 people for
people and convicted 62 people for
people and convicted 62 people for genocide and crimes against humanity and
genocide and crimes against humanity and
genocide and crimes against humanity and [Applause]
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[Applause] and it came to the first conviction in
and it came to the first conviction in
and it came to the first conviction in history for genocide finally the
history for genocide finally the
history for genocide finally the International Convention for the
International Convention for the
International Convention for the prevention and punishment of the crime
prevention and punishment of the crime
prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide became law that tribunal
of genocide became law that tribunal
of genocide became law that tribunal opened the way for us to also create a
opened the way for us to also create a
opened the way for us to also create a tribunal for Cambodia I wrote a proposal
tribunal for Cambodia I wrote a proposal
tribunal for Cambodia I wrote a proposal that proposed that there be a mixed
that proposed that there be a mixed
that proposed that there be a mixed tribunal of Cambodian and international
tribunal of Cambodian and international
tribunal of Cambodian and international judges that would try the people most
judges that would try the people most
judges that would try the people most responsible for the Khmer Rouge crimes
responsible for the Khmer Rouge crimes
responsible for the Khmer Rouge crimes and would be held right in phenom penh
and would be held right in phenom penh
and would be held right in phenom penh cambodia in – by 2006 that tribunal came
cambodia in – by 2006 that tribunal came
cambodia in – by 2006 that tribunal came into being and i wrote its rules it has
into being and i wrote its rules it has
into being and i wrote its rules it has now tried and convicted three people i
now tried and convicted three people i
now tried and convicted three people i know that doesn’t sound like a lot but
know that doesn’t sound like a lot but
know that doesn’t sound like a lot but these were the top people who on Chaia
these were the top people who on Chaia
these were the top people who on Chaia the head of the whole death camp system
the head of the whole death camp system
the head of the whole death camp system and Kusum found the ideologist of the
and Kusum found the ideologist of the
and Kusum found the ideologist of the regime as well as Dyke who was the
regime as well as Dyke who was the
regime as well as Dyke who was the commander of the toul sleng prison the
commander of the toul sleng prison the
commander of the toul sleng prison the prison that had sent those people to the
prison that had sent those people to the
prison that had sent those people to the chung act mass grave what I learned from
chung act mass grave what I learned from
chung act mass grave what I learned from all of this was that we can in fact take
all of this was that we can in fact take
all of this was that we can in fact take steps to combat genocide not just to
steps to combat genocide not just to
steps to combat genocide not just to punish genocide but the problem that I
punish genocide but the problem that I
punish genocide but the problem that I saw was tribunals are too late we need
saw was tribunals are too late we need
saw was tribunals are too late we need to prevent genocide before it happens
to prevent genocide before it happens
to prevent genocide before it happens and I had learned in the State
and I had learned in the State
and I had learned in the State Department that we couldn’t count on
Department that we couldn’t count on
Department that we couldn’t count on governments to do that and yet in 1999
governments to do that and yet in 1999
governments to do that and yet in 1999 there was not a single organization in
there was not a single organization in
there was not a single organization in the world
the world
the world not a single coalition devoted solely to
not a single coalition devoted solely to
not a single coalition devoted solely to the prevention of genocide this crime
the prevention of genocide this crime
the prevention of genocide this crime that had killed more people than any
that had killed more people than any
that had killed more people than any other crime during the 20th century
other crime during the 20th century
other crime during the 20th century and so in 1999 I found a genocide watch
and so in 1999 I found a genocide watch
and so in 1999 I found a genocide watch and the Alliance against genocide and
and the Alliance against genocide and
and the Alliance against genocide and the Alliance now has over 70 member
the Alliance now has over 70 member
the Alliance now has over 70 member organizations around the world as well
organizations around the world as well
organizations around the world as well as many other organizations that are
as many other organizations that are
as many other organizations that are part of this mass movement we needed a
part of this mass movement we needed a
part of this mass movement we needed a mass movement to end genocide and it now
mass movement to end genocide and it now
mass movement to end genocide and it now exists at the genocide watch we use a 10
exists at the genocide watch we use a 10
exists at the genocide watch we use a 10 stage model that I first wrote when I
stage model that I first wrote when I
stage model that I first wrote when I was in the State Department that helps
was in the State Department that helps
was in the State Department that helps us understand the early warning signs
us understand the early warning signs
us understand the early warning signs and the process of genocide and helps us
and the process of genocide and helps us
and the process of genocide and helps us to develop the policies that we need to
to develop the policies that we need to
to develop the policies that we need to actually stop it in its tracks it’s all
actually stop it in its tracks it’s all
actually stop it in its tracks it’s all behind the scenes you won’t hear about
behind the scenes you won’t hear about
behind the scenes you won’t hear about us I’m telling you that because we work
us I’m telling you that because we work
us I’m telling you that because we work only through the policymakers and it’s
only through the policymakers and it’s
only through the policymakers and it’s faith that we need if we’re going to win
faith that we need if we’re going to win
faith that we need if we’re going to win this struggle
this struggle
this struggle I have faith every time I look at the
I have faith every time I look at the
I have faith every time I look at the picture and the living presence of our
picture and the living presence of our
picture and the living presence of our daughter on November 16th 1980 a newborn
daughter on November 16th 1980 a newborn
daughter on November 16th 1980 a newborn baby was abandoned on the steps of the
baby was abandoned on the steps of the
baby was abandoned on the steps of the National pediatric hospital in Phnom
National pediatric hospital in Phnom
National pediatric hospital in Phnom Penh it was a Sunday morning bright and
Penh it was a Sunday morning bright and
Penh it was a Sunday morning bright and sunny and she came in to our prayer
sunny and she came in to our prayer
sunny and she came in to our prayer meeting and she laid that baby in my
meeting and she laid that baby in my
meeting and she laid that baby in my wife’s arms and I remember walking down
wife’s arms and I remember walking down
wife’s arms and I remember walking down the hallway after that when my wife was
the hallway after that when my wife was
the hallway after that when my wife was sitting in the front row
sitting in the front row
sitting in the front row handed her to me saying after all of the
handed her to me saying after all of the
handed her to me saying after all of the horror we have seen here is this your
horror we have seen here is this your
horror we have seen here is this your gift and I had this tremendous feeling
gift and I had this tremendous feeling
gift and I had this tremendous feeling yes
and yet we knew no one had ever adopted
and yet we knew no one had ever adopted a baby in Cambodia since 1975 but there
a baby in Cambodia since 1975 but there
a baby in Cambodia since 1975 but there are forces in this world that change
are forces in this world that change
are forces in this world that change human hearts and they can change history
human hearts and they can change history
human hearts and they can change history and just a few weeks later the adoption
and just a few weeks later the adoption
and just a few weeks later the adoption certificate came through for her and it
certificate came through for her and it
certificate came through for her and it was signed by the man who later became
was signed by the man who later became
was signed by the man who later became the foreign minister of Cambodia and it
the foreign minister of Cambodia and it
the foreign minister of Cambodia and it was the first act of that government
was the first act of that government
was the first act of that government ever to be recognized by a court in the
ever to be recognized by a court in the
ever to be recognized by a court in the United States when I went back in 1982
United States when I went back in 1982
United States when I went back in 1982 established the Cambodian genocide
established the Cambodian genocide
established the Cambodian genocide project I said why did you let us adopt
project I said why did you let us adopt
project I said why did you let us adopt her and they said because we knew that
her and they said because we knew that
her and they said because we knew that she needed you and because we knew that
she needed you and because we knew that
she needed you and because we knew that you needed her that’s love they loved us
you see love is more powerful than evil
you see love is more powerful than evil and justice is stronger the genocide in
and justice is stronger the genocide in
and justice is stronger the genocide in life triumph over death and cambodia has
life triumph over death and cambodia has
life triumph over death and cambodia has now come back to life thank you
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