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The Future of Intercity Transportation with Autonomous Vehicles | Megan Ryerson | TEDxPenn


picture your most recent three to five

picture your most recent three to five hundred mile long trip maybe from

hundred mile long trip maybe from

hundred mile long trip maybe from Philadelphia maybe he went to Boston or

Philadelphia maybe he went to Boston or

Philadelphia maybe he went to Boston or Pittsburgh how did you travel there how

Pittsburgh how did you travel there how

Pittsburgh how did you travel there how did you decide to travel there my name

did you decide to travel there my name

did you decide to travel there my name is Megan Ryerson and I’m a professor of

is Megan Ryerson and I’m a professor of

is Megan Ryerson and I’m a professor of electrical and systems engineering and

electrical and systems engineering and

electrical and systems engineering and city and regional planning here at the

city and regional planning here at the

city and regional planning here at the University of Pennsylvania and I study

University of Pennsylvania and I study

University of Pennsylvania and I study how you make intercity travel choices

how you make intercity travel choices

how you make intercity travel choices when I was an undergraduate here at the

when I was an undergraduate here at the

when I was an undergraduate here at the University of Pennsylvania in systems

University of Pennsylvania in systems

University of Pennsylvania in systems engineering I was fascinated by my new

engineering I was fascinated by my new

engineering I was fascinated by my new ability to optimize the movement of

ability to optimize the movement of

ability to optimize the movement of anything along a network a packet of

anything along a network a packet of

anything along a network a packet of information along a communications

information along a communications

information along a communications network or an Amazon box along a

network or an Amazon box along a

network or an Amazon box along a logistics network and this love for

logistics network and this love for

logistics network and this love for optimization brought me to the dynamic

optimization brought me to the dynamic

optimization brought me to the dynamic field of intercity transportation a

field of intercity transportation a

field of intercity transportation a question that really motivates me is how

question that really motivates me is how

question that really motivates me is how will new technologies everything from

will new technologies everything from

will new technologies everything from wayfinding and navigation technologies

wayfinding and navigation technologies

wayfinding and navigation technologies or to vehicles that talk to each other

or to vehicles that talk to each other

or to vehicles that talk to each other and maybe one day will drive themselves

and maybe one day will drive themselves

and maybe one day will drive themselves how these technologies will change the

how these technologies will change the

how these technologies will change the way you and I make travel decisions and

way you and I make travel decisions and

way you and I make travel decisions and how do our individual travel decisions

how do our individual travel decisions

how do our individual travel decisions add up to have big influences on how for

add up to have big influences on how for

add up to have big influences on how for example an airline might supply air

example an airline might supply air

example an airline might supply air service at a city or how a local or

service at a city or how a local or

service at a city or how a local or federal government might supply

federal government might supply

federal government might supply infrastructure to a region now while the

infrastructure to a region now while the

infrastructure to a region now while the engineer in me loves to optimize

engineer in me loves to optimize

engineer in me loves to optimize networks the urban planner in me is

networks the urban planner in me is

networks the urban planner in me is interested in how our travel decisions

interested in how our travel decisions

interested in how our travel decisions might influence the environment and air

might influence the environment and air

might influence the environment and air quality and the economic development of

quality and the economic development of

quality and the economic development of cities regions and the country now one

cities regions and the country now one

cities regions and the country now one disclaimer before I begin which is

disclaimer before I begin which is

disclaimer before I begin which is particularly particularly relevant given

particularly particularly relevant given

particularly particularly relevant given the given of speaker Jung soo Kyung sook

the given of speaker Jung soo Kyung sook

the given of speaker Jung soo Kyung sook Kim on his amazing device for for people

Kim on his amazing device for for people

Kim on his amazing device for for people who are blind I’m going to be speaking

who are blind I’m going to be speaking

who are blind I’m going to be speaking very freely about making travel choices

very freely about making travel choices

very freely about making travel choices but I do realize that not everybody has

but I do realize that not everybody has

but I do realize that not everybody has such freedom people who are living with

such freedom people who are living with

such freedom people who are living with disabilities the elderly people without

disabilities the elderly people without

disabilities the elderly people without the financial resources to have a

the financial resources to have a

the financial resources to have a vehicle or to buy an air ticket may have

vehicle or to buy an air ticket may have

vehicle or to buy an air ticket may have may have

may have

may have no such freedom now with all that said

no such freedom now with all that said

no such freedom now with all that said let’s go back to picturing your last

let’s go back to picturing your last

let’s go back to picturing your last three to five hundred mile trip you

three to five hundred mile trip you

three to five hundred mile trip you likely decided between driving and

likely decided between driving and

likely decided between driving and flying here in the Northeast Corridor we

flying here in the Northeast Corridor we

flying here in the Northeast Corridor we also have intercity rail and so there’s

also have intercity rail and so there’s

also have intercity rail and so there’s rail is a small portion of trips when we

rail is a small portion of trips when we

rail is a small portion of trips when we consider the entire US so we’ll just

consider the entire US so we’ll just

consider the entire US so we’ll just consider driving and flying for now and

consider driving and flying for now and

consider driving and flying for now and as you were considered considering your

as you were considered considering your

as you were considered considering your choice of driving or flying you likely

choice of driving or flying you likely

choice of driving or flying you likely thought of the interest the entire

thought of the interest the entire

thought of the interest the entire travel chain of both of the trips

travel chain of both of the trips

travel chain of both of the trips driving is very straightforward get in

driving is very straightforward get in

driving is very straightforward get in your car and drive flying is a little

your car and drive flying is a little

your car and drive flying is a little more complicated we have the long flight

more complicated we have the long flight

more complicated we have the long flight we also have to access the airport go

we also have to access the airport go

we also have to access the airport go through security and and sort of do that

through security and and sort of do that

through security and and sort of do that on the other end at our destination as

on the other end at our destination as

on the other end at our destination as well while you’re evaluating if you’ll

well while you’re evaluating if you’ll

well while you’re evaluating if you’ll drive or fly you’re likely considering

drive or fly you’re likely considering

drive or fly you’re likely considering how you internalize the time and the

how you internalize the time and the

how you internalize the time and the cost of all of the components of both of

cost of all of the components of both of

cost of all of the components of both of the travel chains how we internalize

the travel chains how we internalize

the travel chains how we internalize cost typically depends on our income and

cost typically depends on our income and

cost typically depends on our income and who’s footing the bill for the trip you

who’s footing the bill for the trip you

who’s footing the bill for the trip you might intercede the cost of flying to be

might intercede the cost of flying to be

might intercede the cost of flying to be rather high or if your employers paying

rather high or if your employers paying

rather high or if your employers paying for it you might not perceive the cost

for it you might not perceive the cost

for it you might not perceive the cost at all and the way that we internalize

at all and the way that we internalize

at all and the way that we internalize time begins with our estimate for the

time begins with our estimate for the

time begins with our estimate for the time that each of the links in the

time that each of the links in the

time that each of the links in the travel chain is going to take but it

travel chain is going to take but it

travel chain is going to take but it particularly depends on three components

particularly depends on three components

particularly depends on three components of the way we internalize time and the

of the way we internalize time and the

of the way we internalize time and the first component is flexibility driving

first component is flexibility driving

first component is flexibility driving offers the ultimate in flexibility get

offers the ultimate in flexibility get

offers the ultimate in flexibility get in your car and drive on your own

in your car and drive on your own

in your car and drive on your own schedule flying is the opposite

schedule flying is the opposite

schedule flying is the opposite we’re following someone else’s schedule

we’re following someone else’s schedule

we’re following someone else’s schedule in contrast air air travel offers the

in contrast air air travel offers the

in contrast air air travel offers the ultimate in productivity

ultimate in productivity

ultimate in productivity dr. milkman just before before my talk

dr. milkman just before before my talk

dr. milkman just before before my talk was telling me that she is productive

was telling me that she is productive

was telling me that she is productive from the moment she leaves the house to

from the moment she leaves the house to

from the moment she leaves the house to the moment she gets to her destination

the moment she gets to her destination

the moment she gets to her destination when she flies she is on the phone in

when she flies she is on the phone in

when she flies she is on the phone in the security line she’s writing emails

the security line she’s writing emails

the security line she’s writing emails while she’s waiting at the gate she’s

while she’s waiting at the gate she’s

while she’s waiting at the gate she’s working the entire time on the flight

working the entire time on the flight

working the entire time on the flight driving offers no such option we are

driving offers no such option we are

driving offers no such option we are preoccupied with a rather mundane task

preoccupied with a rather mundane task

preoccupied with a rather mundane task of driving the entire trip and anyone

of driving the entire trip and anyone

of driving the entire trip and anyone who has taken a flight or driven to a

who has taken a flight or driven to a

who has taken a flight or driven to a faraway destiny

faraway destiny

faraway destiny knows that neither option offers

knows that neither option offers

knows that neither option offers predictability we really don’t know if

predictability we really don’t know if

predictability we really don’t know if there’s going to be congestion if

there’s going to be congestion if

there’s going to be congestion if there’s going to be a road out we really

there’s going to be a road out we really

there’s going to be a road out we really don’t know if our flight is going to be

don’t know if our flight is going to be

don’t know if our flight is going to be on time or if it’s going to be canceled

on time or if it’s going to be canceled

on time or if it’s going to be canceled and we might never get there

and we might never get there

and we might never get there we might never get there to be at all so

we might never get there to be at all so

we might never get there to be at all so how did you choose your mode driving or

how did you choose your mode driving or

how did you choose your mode driving or flying for your last trip how did you

flying for your last trip how did you

flying for your last trip how did you internalize the time and the cost of

internalize the time and the cost of

internalize the time and the cost of both of your options well if you choose

both of your options well if you choose

both of your options well if you choose to drive you are not alone 77% of trips

to drive you are not alone 77% of trips

to drive you are not alone 77% of trips from Philadelphia to Boston are taken in

from Philadelphia to Boston are taken in

from Philadelphia to Boston are taken in the car 88% of trips from Philadelphia

the car 88% of trips from Philadelphia

the car 88% of trips from Philadelphia to Washington DC in general as a society

to Washington DC in general as a society

to Washington DC in general as a society we value the flexibility of the car and

we value the flexibility of the car and

we value the flexibility of the car and maybe the lower cost over the

maybe the lower cost over the

maybe the lower cost over the productivity and the cost of flying but

productivity and the cost of flying but

productivity and the cost of flying but now consider this now consider that

now consider this now consider that

now consider this now consider that outside of your house you have an

outside of your house you have an

outside of your house you have an autonomous vehicle waiting to take you

autonomous vehicle waiting to take you

autonomous vehicle waiting to take you to your faraway destination how would

to your faraway destination how would

to your faraway destination how would you choose your mode of travel and would

you choose your mode of travel and would

you choose your mode of travel and would you choose the autonomous vehicle you

you choose the autonomous vehicle you

you choose the autonomous vehicle you may have previously thought about how

may have previously thought about how

may have previously thought about how autonomous vehicle travel might change

autonomous vehicle travel might change

autonomous vehicle travel might change the way you move around the city and I’m

the way you move around the city and I’m

the way you move around the city and I’m going to argue that autonomous vehicle

going to argue that autonomous vehicle

going to argue that autonomous vehicle travel is going to radically change the

travel is going to radically change the

travel is going to radically change the way we travel between cities and this is

way we travel between cities and this is

way we travel between cities and this is because autonomous vehicles offer the

because autonomous vehicles offer the

because autonomous vehicles offer the ultimate in flexibility and productivity

ultimate in flexibility and productivity

ultimate in flexibility and productivity I leave for your trip whenever you want

I leave for your trip whenever you want

I leave for your trip whenever you want I have your vehicle when you when you

I have your vehicle when you when you

I have your vehicle when you when you get there right depart from your

get there right depart from your

get there right depart from your destination whenever you want but while

destination whenever you want but while

destination whenever you want but while you’re doing that you can be productive

you’re doing that you can be productive

you’re doing that you can be productive you could work you could sleep you could

you could work you could sleep you could

you could work you could sleep you could turn around and play with your children

turn around and play with your children

turn around and play with your children if they’re there you can you can you can

if they’re there you can you can you can

if they’re there you can you can you can be productive and flexible at the same

be productive and flexible at the same

be productive and flexible at the same time in addition if enough of us adopt

time in addition if enough of us adopt

time in addition if enough of us adopt autonomous vehicles well maybe we can

autonomous vehicles well maybe we can

autonomous vehicles well maybe we can platoon them on the highway smoothing

platoon them on the highway smoothing

platoon them on the highway smoothing out congestion and thus reducing

out congestion and thus reducing

out congestion and thus reducing unpredictability so now we have a mode

unpredictability so now we have a mode

unpredictability so now we have a mode that optimizes the three components of

that optimizes the three components of

that optimizes the three components of time well if you can’t

time well if you can’t

time well if you can’t wait to have an autonomous vehicle to

wait to have an autonomous vehicle to

wait to have an autonomous vehicle to take on your next intercity trip we here

take on your next intercity trip we here

take on your next intercity trip we here at Penn are working very hard to make

at Penn are working very hard to make

at Penn are working very hard to make that vision a reality

that vision a reality

that vision a reality our mobile mobility 21 Transportation

our mobile mobility 21 Transportation

our mobile mobility 21 Transportation Research Center has been pioneering the

Research Center has been pioneering the

Research Center has been pioneering the development of autonomous vehicles in

development of autonomous vehicles in

development of autonomous vehicles in 2007 professor Dan Lee of electrical and

2007 professor Dan Lee of electrical and

2007 professor Dan Lee of electrical and systems engineering built an autonomous

systems engineering built an autonomous

systems engineering built an autonomous vehicle a very appropriately named

vehicle a very appropriately named

vehicle a very appropriately named little Ben and that vehicle competed the

little Ben and that vehicle competed the

little Ben and that vehicle competed the DARPA urban challenge

DARPA urban challenge

DARPA urban challenge professor Rahul Muharram is developing a

professor Rahul Muharram is developing a

professor Rahul Muharram is developing a driver’s license test for autonomous

driver’s license test for autonomous

driver’s license test for autonomous vehicles and at Carnegie Mellon

vehicles and at Carnegie Mellon

vehicles and at Carnegie Mellon University our mobility 21

University our mobility 21

University our mobility 21 transportation a research partner

transportation a research partner

transportation a research partner they’ve been developing autonomous

they’ve been developing autonomous

they’ve been developing autonomous vehicles and they can be seen driving

vehicles and they can be seen driving

vehicles and they can be seen driving around the streets of Pittsburgh

around the streets of Pittsburgh

around the streets of Pittsburgh most recently they took our own

most recently they took our own

most recently they took our own Pennsylvania Secretary of Transportation

Pennsylvania Secretary of Transportation

Pennsylvania Secretary of Transportation Leslie Richards herself at Penn grad out

Leslie Richards herself at Penn grad out

Leslie Richards herself at Penn grad out for a hands-free hands-free drive around

for a hands-free hands-free drive around

for a hands-free hands-free drive around Pittsburgh well if we have autonomous

Pittsburgh well if we have autonomous

Pittsburgh well if we have autonomous vehicles how will they change the

vehicles how will they change the

vehicles how will they change the interests how will they change the

interests how will they change the

interests how will they change the intercity transportation network so

intercity transportation network so

intercity transportation network so let’s consider the route network for

let’s consider the route network for

let’s consider the route network for airlines out of Philadelphia these are

airlines out of Philadelphia these are

airlines out of Philadelphia these are all of the cities that we can travel to

all of the cities that we can travel to

all of the cities that we can travel to right now nonstop from Philadelphia on a

right now nonstop from Philadelphia on a

right now nonstop from Philadelphia on a flight all right Philadelphia is what is

flight all right Philadelphia is what is

flight all right Philadelphia is what is known as a hub airport which means that

known as a hub airport which means that

known as a hub airport which means that passengers come into Philadelphia they

passengers come into Philadelphia they

passengers come into Philadelphia they transfer flights and they go on to their

transfer flights and they go on to their

transfer flights and they go on to their destination and in fact 50% of people

destination and in fact 50% of people

destination and in fact 50% of people who come through the Philadelphia

who come through the Philadelphia

who come through the Philadelphia Airport are not coming to Philadelphia

Airport are not coming to Philadelphia

Airport are not coming to Philadelphia and they don’t live in Philadelphia

and they don’t live in Philadelphia

and they don’t live in Philadelphia they’re connecting

they’re connecting

they’re connecting they’re connecting through so if those

they’re connecting through so if those

they’re connecting through so if those of us that are taking point-to-point

of us that are taking point-to-point

of us that are taking point-to-point trips between Philadelphia and another

trips between Philadelphia and another

trips between Philadelphia and another place Pittsburgh Pittsburgh buffalo or

place Pittsburgh Pittsburgh buffalo or

place Pittsburgh Pittsburgh buffalo or Rochester if those of us traveling

Rochester if those of us traveling

Rochester if those of us traveling point-to-point elect to travel on our

point-to-point elect to travel on our

point-to-point elect to travel on our autonomous vehicle because it’s more is

autonomous vehicle because it’s more is

autonomous vehicle because it’s more is because it’s more efficient all right

because it’s more efficient all right

because it’s more efficient all right all of a sudden the airline experience

all of a sudden the airline experience

all of a sudden the airline experience is a drop in demand on these three to

is a drop in demand on these three to

is a drop in demand on these three to five hundred mile mile flights

five hundred mile mile flights

five hundred mile mile flights passengers who are looking to connect

passengers who are looking to connect

passengers who are looking to connect passengers who are looking to connect

passengers who are looking to connect

passengers who are looking to connect might find that now instead of five

might find that now instead of five

might find that now instead of five flights a day to Philadelphia they have

flights a day to Philadelphia they have

flights a day to Philadelphia they have to because the demand wasn’t there

to because the demand wasn’t there

to because the demand wasn’t there because all of us traveling

because all of us traveling

because all of us traveling point-to-point have moved on to have

point-to-point have moved on to have

point-to-point have moved on to have moved on to auto the reduction in flight

moved on to auto the reduction in flight

moved on to auto the reduction in flight from the three to five hundred mile

from the three to five hundred mile

from the three to five hundred mile distance could have a very big impact on

distance could have a very big impact on

distance could have a very big impact on our transportation system so a traveler

our transportation system so a traveler

our transportation system so a traveler from Buffalo or Rochester might think

from Buffalo or Rochester might think

from Buffalo or Rochester might think well it’s really inconvenient now to

well it’s really inconvenient now to

well it’s really inconvenient now to travel to Philadelphia so instead I’m

travel to Philadelphia so instead I’m

travel to Philadelphia so instead I’m going to drive to Detroit or I’m going

going to drive to Detroit or I’m going

going to drive to Detroit or I’m going to draw it drive to Boston and

to draw it drive to Boston and

to draw it drive to Boston and Philadelphia loses out on some transfer

Philadelphia loses out on some transfer

Philadelphia loses out on some transfer passengers so while you might not have

passengers so while you might not have

passengers so while you might not have been affected by a cancelling of some

been affected by a cancelling of some

been affected by a cancelling of some flights to Buffalo or Rochester because

flights to Buffalo or Rochester because

flights to Buffalo or Rochester because you can get in your vehicle and drive

you can get in your vehicle and drive

you can get in your vehicle and drive from Philadelphia now all of a sudden

from Philadelphia now all of a sudden

from Philadelphia now all of a sudden when you want to go to San Francisco

when you want to go to San Francisco

when you want to go to San Francisco there aren’t as many flights because

there aren’t as many flights because

there aren’t as many flights because those people from Rochester who want to

those people from Rochester who want to

those people from Rochester who want to go to San Francisco aren’t coming

go to San Francisco aren’t coming

go to San Francisco aren’t coming through to Philadelphia another

through to Philadelphia another

through to Philadelphia another possibility is that people in people in

possibility is that people in people in

possibility is that people in people in smaller cities around Philadelphia

smaller cities around Philadelphia

smaller cities around Philadelphia instead of flying to Philadelphia and

instead of flying to Philadelphia and

instead of flying to Philadelphia and connecting they drive and now all of a

connecting they drive and now all of a

connecting they drive and now all of a sudden that security line at

sudden that security line at

sudden that security line at Philadelphia has doubled in size and the

Philadelphia has doubled in size and the

Philadelphia has doubled in size and the number of people who come to

number of people who come to

number of people who come to Philadelphia Airport to start their trip

Philadelphia Airport to start their trip

Philadelphia Airport to start their trip could put double this is not a problem

could put double this is not a problem

could put double this is not a problem that is unique to Philadelphia across

that is unique to Philadelphia across

that is unique to Philadelphia across the u.s. there are a thousand routes

the u.s. there are a thousand routes

the u.s. there are a thousand routes that are 500 miles in length or shorter

that are 500 miles in length or shorter

that are 500 miles in length or shorter and 37 of our top 70 airports have a

and 37 of our top 70 airports have a

and 37 of our top 70 airports have a majority of their routes are 500 miles

majority of their routes are 500 miles

majority of their routes are 500 miles or less this is a this is an issue that

or less this is a this is an issue that

or less this is a this is an issue that could change the air service network all

could change the air service network all

could change the air service network all across the u.s. so what do I think is

across the u.s. so what do I think is

across the u.s. so what do I think is the future of intercity transportation

the future of intercity transportation

the future of intercity transportation in particular aviation with autonomous

in particular aviation with autonomous

in particular aviation with autonomous vehicles

vehicles

vehicles well Robin Shay’s the founder of Zipcar

well Robin Shay’s the founder of Zipcar

well Robin Shay’s the founder of Zipcar talks about a future of a future of

talks about a future of a future of

talks about a future of a future of urban transportation with autonomous

urban transportation with autonomous

urban transportation with autonomous vehicles characterized by heaven and

vehicles characterized by heaven and

vehicles characterized by heaven and hell heaven being that we all have

hell heaven being that we all have

hell heaven being that we all have autonomous rideshare we’re able to

autonomous rideshare we’re able to

autonomous rideshare we’re able to reclaim urban space because we no longer

reclaim urban space because we no longer

reclaim urban space because we no longer need parking because we can shuttle our

need parking because we can shuttle our

need parking because we can shuttle our vehicle to

vehicle to

vehicle to far out parking area and we can take all

far out parking area and we can take all

far out parking area and we can take all the the parking space on streets and we

the the parking space on streets and we

the the parking space on streets and we can make it urban space hell being that

can make it urban space hell being that

can make it urban space hell being that we all send our vehicles to run our

we all send our vehicles to run our

we all send our vehicles to run our errands and we never interact with the

errands and we never interact with the

errands and we never interact with the urban environment

urban environment

urban environment well my heaven and hell for autonomous

well my heaven and hell for autonomous

well my heaven and hell for autonomous vehicles on intercity transportation are

vehicles on intercity transportation are

vehicles on intercity transportation are a few major airports across the u.s.

a few major airports across the u.s.

a few major airports across the u.s. being the only points of entry for Air

being the only points of entry for Air

being the only points of entry for Air Service huge security lines huge

Service huge security lines huge

Service huge security lines huge congestion points around airports very

congestion points around airports very

congestion points around airports very very long taxi lines for the aircraft

very long taxi lines for the aircraft

very long taxi lines for the aircraft large unpredictable unpredictability and

large unpredictable unpredictability and

large unpredictable unpredictability and service while airports and smaller

service while airports and smaller

service while airports and smaller cities lay completely underutilized big

cities lay completely underutilized big

cities lay completely underutilized big disparities in the way infrastructure is

disparities in the way infrastructure is

disparities in the way infrastructure is used all across the US so we are all

used all across the US so we are all

used all across the US so we are all making rational decisions for ourselves

making rational decisions for ourselves

making rational decisions for ourselves as we think about our intercity

as we think about our intercity

as we think about our intercity transportation choices but are all of

transportation choices but are all of

transportation choices but are all of our rational transportation mode choice

our rational transportation mode choice

our rational transportation mode choice decisions do they all all add up to an

decisions do they all all add up to an

decisions do they all all add up to an intercity transportation system that is

intercity transportation system that is

intercity transportation system that is optimal for all thank you

optimal for all thank you

optimal for all thank you [Applause]

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