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Towards a human-shaped world | Mikal Hallstrup | TEDxAarhus


well hi everyone

well hi everyone what an amazing view this uh I’m here to

what an amazing view this uh I’m here to

what an amazing view this uh I’m here to talk about design and how design has the

talk about design and how design has the

talk about design and how design has the power to make the world a more human

power to make the world a more human

power to make the world a more human shape place and you know the world has

shape place and you know the world has

shape place and you know the world has more human shaped plays what I mean by

more human shaped plays what I mean by

more human shaped plays what I mean by that

that

that I mean it plays where everything

I mean it plays where everything

I mean it plays where everything everything is designed around real human

everything is designed around real human

everything is designed around real human needs a place designed for humans and by

needs a place designed for humans and by

needs a place designed for humans and by humans so some thirty years ago I came

humans so some thirty years ago I came

humans so some thirty years ago I came to always to study here actually I did

to always to study here actually I did

to always to study here actually I did one year at Law School I just to

one year at Law School I just to

one year at Law School I just to discover that I was not a lawyer I was

discover that I was not a lawyer I was

discover that I was not a lawyer I was not even become a lawyer pepper I was a

not even become a lawyer pepper I was a

not even become a lawyer pepper I was a creative right and somehow that you know

creative right and somehow that you know

creative right and somehow that you know thing about like breaking the rules as

thing about like breaking the rules as

thing about like breaking the rules as opposed to following them was something

opposed to following them was something

opposed to following them was something that I really really liked and I guess

that I really really liked and I guess

that I really really liked and I guess it’s fair to say way back then design

it’s fair to say way back then design

it’s fair to say way back then design was something totally different right

was something totally different right

was something totally different right not that we were designing white tea

not that we were designing white tea

not that we were designing white tea cups all the time and just like

cups all the time and just like

cups all the time and just like prettifying beautifying things but

prettifying beautifying things but

prettifying beautifying things but design way back was more about designing

design way back was more about designing

design way back was more about designing and shaping things really but some you

and shaping things really but some you

and shaping things really but some you know sometime along the way I met some

know sometime along the way I met some

know sometime along the way I met some people that really helped me try to re

people that really helped me try to re

people that really helped me try to re understand and you know really

understand and you know really

understand and you know really understand what design has the power to

understand what design has the power to

understand what design has the power to do one of them was his amazing guy

do one of them was his amazing guy

do one of them was his amazing guy Ansari amazing guy a design professor

Ansari amazing guy a design professor

Ansari amazing guy a design professor when I passed away

when I passed away

when I passed away John Heskett who became one of my

John Heskett who became one of my

John Heskett who became one of my biggest sources of inspiration and John

biggest sources of inspiration and John

biggest sources of inspiration and John had this very soft-spoken way of putting

had this very soft-spoken way of putting

had this very soft-spoken way of putting it you know what things really are right

it you know what things really are right

it you know what things really are right so the way he defined design was the

so the way he defined design was the

so the way he defined design was the following so design is the human

following so design is the human

following so design is the human capacity to shape and make our

capacity to shape and make our

capacity to shape and make our environment in ways that satisfy our

environment in ways that satisfy our

environment in ways that satisfy our needs and give meaning to our lives what

needs and give meaning to our lives what

needs and give meaning to our lives what do you think about that is that a

do you think about that is that a

do you think about that is that a beautiful quote

beautiful quote

beautiful quote I think so because to me that is what

I think so because to me that is what

I think so because to me that is what design is really all about okay yeah all

design is really all about okay yeah all

design is really all about okay yeah all right you know what that is guys right

right you know what that is guys right

right you know what that is guys right right it’s not the human shaped world so

right it’s not the human shaped world so

right it’s not the human shaped world so fact is there is a lot of complicated

fact is there is a lot of complicated

fact is there is a lot of complicated stuff out there a lot of crappy stuff

stuff out there a lot of crappy stuff

stuff out there a lot of crappy stuff that is not human shaped but rather

that is not human shaped but rather

that is not human shaped but rather human proof and you know what how many

human proof and you know what how many

human proof and you know what how many of you guys have tried this let me see a

of you guys have tried this let me see a

of you guys have tried this let me see a raise of hands so you know what I’m

raise of hands so you know what I’m

raise of hands so you know what I’m talking about here right all right

talking about here right all right

talking about here right all right you know what happened up there so a

you know what happened up there so a

you know what happened up there so a bunch of specialists right packaging

bunch of specialists right packaging

bunch of specialists right packaging specialists people that know this stuff

specialists people that know this stuff

specialists people that know this stuff sat down figured out how to design the

sat down figured out how to design the

sat down figured out how to design the perfect packaging right so they thought

perfect packaging right so they thought

perfect packaging right so they thought of everything it’s safe its tamper proof

of everything it’s safe its tamper proof

of everything it’s safe its tamper proof you know it’s easy to manufacture it’s

you know it’s easy to manufacture it’s

you know it’s easy to manufacture it’s cheap but they forgot one thing what is

cheap but they forgot one thing what is

cheap but they forgot one thing what is that you know how you get the stuff out

that you know how you get the stuff out

that you know how you get the stuff out of the packaging right so for us you

of the packaging right so for us you

of the packaging right so for us you know as human beings as people

know as human beings as people

know as human beings as people what are we careful we care for taking

what are we careful we care for taking

what are we careful we care for taking things out of the box whereas that group

things out of the box whereas that group

things out of the box whereas that group of specialists right with the upside

of specialists right with the upside

of specialists right with the upside down mindset mind said they thought all

down mindset mind said they thought all

down mindset mind said they thought all about how to pack things in right so the

about how to pack things in right so the

about how to pack things in right so the Americans even have a word for this you

Americans even have a word for this you

Americans even have a word for this you know what that is

know what that is

know what that is it’s called wrapper age you know the

it’s called wrapper age you know the

it’s called wrapper age you know the frustration you feel when you can’t get

frustration you feel when you can’t get

frustration you feel when you can’t get the stuff out of the packaging and you

the stuff out of the packaging and you

the stuff out of the packaging and you need to bring out your tools so just to

need to bring out your tools so just to

need to bring out your tools so just to make my point here let’s have a look at

make my point here let’s have a look at

make my point here let’s have a look at this video it kind of you know shows

this video it kind of you know shows

this video it kind of you know shows what happens when you design stuff you

what happens when you design stuff you

what happens when you design stuff you put it out there without consideration

put it out there without consideration

put it out there without consideration for the human factor you know or even

for the human factor you know or even

for the human factor you know or even yeah well let’s have a look at it yeah

yeah well let’s have a look at it yeah

yeah well let’s have a look at it yeah it’s an Austrian so don’t mind that it’s

it’s an Austrian so don’t mind that it’s

it’s an Austrian so don’t mind that it’s still like a good you know good laugh

still like a good you know good laugh

still like a good you know good laugh yeah lemons fazool he’s demonstrating

yeah lemons fazool he’s demonstrating

yeah lemons fazool he’s demonstrating else they knew he has a package.json

else they knew he has a package.json

else they knew he has a package.json football that is going to replace the

football that is going to replace the

football that is going to replace the milk national team

milk national team

milk national team Dunkleman here MIT reference on dazzling

Dunkleman here MIT reference on dazzling

Dunkleman here MIT reference on dazzling some fashion I’m afraid he’s a

some fashion I’m afraid he’s a

some fashion I’m afraid he’s a fear for you discount all the same

fear for you discount all the same

fear for you discount all the same custom does Hindi sugar to meet select

custom does Hindi sugar to meet select

custom does Hindi sugar to meet select mukajee’s things over here

mukajee’s things over here

mukajee’s things over here hooting softly Thunder – it off repeat

hooting softly Thunder – it off repeat

hooting softly Thunder – it off repeat this is we have star of domestic popular

this is we have star of domestic popular

this is we have star of domestic popular victim of the under empty cause harm see

victim of the under empty cause harm see

victim of the under empty cause harm see those are any shared missionary that’s

those are any shared missionary that’s

those are any shared missionary that’s cute am i off I’m based off the type

cute am i off I’m based off the type

cute am i off I’m based off the type inside the envelope so is really cute um

inside the envelope so is really cute um

inside the envelope so is really cute um this’ll be here

this’ll be here

this’ll be here Tinashe flat seen distinction on key

Tinashe flat seen distinction on key

Tinashe flat seen distinction on key distinction in distance for soup

so remember guys you know the mindset

so remember guys you know the mindset that creates stuff like this just in a

that creates stuff like this just in a

that creates stuff like this just in a small scale it’s the same mindset with

small scale it’s the same mindset with

small scale it’s the same mindset with which we create a lot of other you know

which we create a lot of other you know

which we create a lot of other you know big complicated things in the world I

big complicated things in the world I

big complicated things in the world I think we gotta you know somehow we just

think we gotta you know somehow we just

think we gotta you know somehow we just started to put up with this I mean who

started to put up with this I mean who

started to put up with this I mean who wants this stuff right so thirty years

wants this stuff right so thirty years

wants this stuff right so thirty years after we still have you know milk

after we still have you know milk

after we still have you know milk cartons that are pretty hard to deal

cartons that are pretty hard to deal

cartons that are pretty hard to deal with mine so but as being said design is

with mine so but as being said design is

with mine so but as being said design is so much more than designing you know

so much more than designing you know

so much more than designing you know things in milk cartons so some time ago

things in milk cartons so some time ago

things in milk cartons so some time ago Oslo University Hospital approached one

Oslo University Hospital approached one

Oslo University Hospital approached one of our teams and asked us to help with

of our teams and asked us to help with

of our teams and asked us to help with some very difficult problems at the

some very difficult problems at the

some very difficult problems at the breast cancer clinic at the Oslo

breast cancer clinic at the Oslo

breast cancer clinic at the Oslo University Hospital they were dealing

University Hospital they were dealing

University Hospital they were dealing with serious waiting lines and a bad

with serious waiting lines and a bad

with serious waiting lines and a bad patient experience so you might wonder

patient experience so you might wonder

patient experience so you might wonder why do why does a hospital you know call

why do why does a hospital you know call

why do why does a hospital you know call a design company why couldn’t they just

a design company why couldn’t they just

a design company why couldn’t they just call in some real specialists I tell you

call in some real specialists I tell you

call in some real specialists I tell you why actually they had gone through

why actually they had gone through

why actually they had gone through several project so-called lien projects

several project so-called lien projects

several project so-called lien projects right with focus on procedures and

right with focus on procedures and

right with focus on procedures and processes without focus on people and

processes without focus on people and

processes without focus on people and patients really so we were called in you

patients really so we were called in you

patients really so we were called in you know instead of the lean smart people in

know instead of the lean smart people in

know instead of the lean smart people in suits I think that was the way they put

suits I think that was the way they put

suits I think that was the way they put it to help them fix this serious problem

it to help them fix this serious problem

it to help them fix this serious problem the thing was the waiting lines were up

the thing was the waiting lines were up

the thing was the waiting lines were up to 12 weeks and when you’re talking

to 12 weeks and when you’re talking

to 12 weeks and when you’re talking breast cancer waiting time kills in many

breast cancer waiting time kills in many

breast cancer waiting time kills in many ways right but worst of all what really

ways right but worst of all what really

ways right but worst of all what really was the thing here when we started

was the thing here when we started

was the thing here when we started looking into what was wrong in the

looking into what was wrong in the

looking into what was wrong in the hospital right which spoke to everyone

hospital right which spoke to everyone

hospital right which spoke to everyone not only the doctors the nurses the

not only the doctors the nurses the

not only the doctors the nurses the specialists but real people the patients

specialists but real people the patients

specialists but real people the patients and actually what became very clear and

and actually what became very clear and

and actually what became very clear and some of the things that I clearly

some of the things that I clearly

some of the things that I clearly remember that was being said was the

remember that was being said was the

remember that was being said was the feeling of not really being part of the

feeling of not really being part of the

feeling of not really being part of the system so there was one woman who

system so there was one woman who

system so there was one woman who explained to us said the following so

explained to us said the following so

explained to us said the following so the morning I discovered something was

the morning I discovered something was

the morning I discovered something was wrong I discovered a lump in my breast I

wrong I discovered a lump in my breast I

wrong I discovered a lump in my breast I went to the doctor right and then I had

went to the doctor right and then I had

went to the doctor right and then I had to wait 12 weeks for an answer how come

to wait 12 weeks for an answer how come

to wait 12 weeks for an answer how come you know the hospital kind of at the

you know the hospital kind of at the

you know the hospital kind of at the moment that I discovered that there was

moment that I discovered that there was

moment that I discovered that there was a lump in my breast I became a patient

a lump in my breast I became a patient

a lump in my breast I became a patient immediately and I needed care but for

immediately and I needed care but for

immediately and I needed care but for the hospital right I was

the hospital right I was

the hospital right I was part of the system until I was diagnosed

part of the system until I was diagnosed

part of the system until I was diagnosed and that was where the waiting time was

and that was where the waiting time was

and that was where the waiting time was so quite you know it became theaters

so quite you know it became theaters

so quite you know it became theaters that we needed to focus on a radical

that we needed to focus on a radical

that we needed to focus on a radical simplification of you know all the

simplification of you know all the

simplification of you know all the processes ensuring that there was one

processes ensuring that there was one

processes ensuring that there was one way in one patient coordinator and a

way in one patient coordinator and a

way in one patient coordinator and a straight line from when you get referred

straight line from when you get referred

straight line from when you get referred from your doctor to the hospital another

from your doctor to the hospital another

from your doctor to the hospital another thing was collaboration so all the

thing was collaboration so all the

thing was collaboration so all the people in hospitals these big you know

people in hospitals these big you know

people in hospitals these big you know change resistant structures they were

change resistant structures they were

change resistant structures they were focused on doing their own part of the

focused on doing their own part of the

focused on doing their own part of the job they didn’t see themselves as you

job they didn’t see themselves as you

job they didn’t see themselves as you know delivering a full patient

know delivering a full patient

know delivering a full patient experience they didn’t look at the whole

experience they didn’t look at the whole

experience they didn’t look at the whole journey they just tried to optimize the

journey they just tried to optimize the

journey they just tried to optimize the part of the work that they doing

part of the work that they doing

part of the work that they doing scanning analyzing and so on and the

scanning analyzing and so on and the

scanning analyzing and so on and the last one but not least important was

last one but not least important was

last one but not least important was actually you know really amplifying the

actually you know really amplifying the

actually you know really amplifying the communication in order not to leave

communication in order not to leave

communication in order not to leave anyone in uncertainty about you know

anyone in uncertainty about you know

anyone in uncertainty about you know knowing what’s going on so we worked on

knowing what’s going on so we worked on

knowing what’s going on so we worked on classic you know communication materials

classic you know communication materials

classic you know communication materials from referral letters to leaflets and to

from referral letters to leaflets and to

from referral letters to leaflets and to user friendly websites that would make

user friendly websites that would make

user friendly websites that would make sure that every you know all the

sure that every you know all the

sure that every you know all the patients would know what was happening

patients would know what was happening

patients would know what was happening all the time believe it or not the

all the time believe it or not the

all the time believe it or not the change was radical

change was radical

change was radical we managed together with the hospital

we managed together with the hospital

we managed together with the hospital and the team to reduce waiting lines

and the team to reduce waiting lines

and the team to reduce waiting lines from 12 weeks of uncertainty down to one

from 12 weeks of uncertainty down to one

from 12 weeks of uncertainty down to one week of knowing what’s going on we had

week of knowing what’s going on we had

week of knowing what’s going on we had three we had three key learnings here or

three we had three key learnings here or

three we had three key learnings here or the hospital had the one they needed to

the hospital had the one they needed to

the hospital had the one they needed to kind of give the promise of taking care

kind of give the promise of taking care

kind of give the promise of taking care of a woman the from the moment she

of a woman the from the moment she

of a woman the from the moment she leaves the doctor with a referral in her

leaves the doctor with a referral in her

leaves the doctor with a referral in her hand the second learning was an approach

hand the second learning was an approach

hand the second learning was an approach and I think one of the doctors actually

and I think one of the doctors actually

and I think one of the doctors actually put it in quite a beautiful way he said

put it in quite a beautiful way he said

put it in quite a beautiful way he said listen when we’re going to change things

listen when we’re going to change things

listen when we’re going to change things and make things better here at the

and make things better here at the

and make things better here at the hospital we got to start talking to the

hospital we got to start talking to the

hospital we got to start talking to the real experts the patients imagine a

real experts the patients imagine a

real experts the patients imagine a doctor saying this right and the third

doctor saying this right and the third

doctor saying this right and the third one was a focus so put very simply one

one was a focus so put very simply one

one was a focus so put very simply one nurse said we need to wrap the hospital

nurse said we need to wrap the hospital

nurse said we need to wrap the hospital around the patient and not the other way

around the patient and not the other way

around the patient and not the other way around these key learnings actually are

around these key learnings actually are

around these key learnings actually are kind of interesting because not only did

kind of interesting because not only did

kind of interesting because not only did they change the breast cancer

they change the breast cancer

they change the breast cancer diagnostics process but I think they

diagnostics process but I think they

diagnostics process but I think they have the power to change a whole

have the power to change a whole

have the power to change a whole health care system if we scale it up and

health care system if we scale it up and

health care system if we scale it up and that’s a lot of wood to be chopped out

that’s a lot of wood to be chopped out

that’s a lot of wood to be chopped out there a lot of complicated stuff waiting

there a lot of complicated stuff waiting

there a lot of complicated stuff waiting lines complicated processes services

lines complicated processes services

lines complicated processes services that need either to be improved or

that need either to be improved or

that need either to be improved or simply be designed away you guys have

simply be designed away you guys have

simply be designed away you guys have tried this as one right well what an

tried this as one right well what an

tried this as one right well what an experience uh and it’s different all

experience uh and it’s different all

experience uh and it’s different all over the world imagine you know if we

over the world imagine you know if we

over the world imagine you know if we could fix this how much impact that

could fix this how much impact that

could fix this how much impact that would have

would have

would have so all of you whatever you do in your

so all of you whatever you do in your

so all of you whatever you do in your everyday lives and your job if you’re a

everyday lives and your job if you’re a

everyday lives and your job if you’re a baker a schoolteacher a car mechanic a

baker a schoolteacher a car mechanic a

baker a schoolteacher a car mechanic a developer or whatever thing we have a

developer or whatever thing we have a

developer or whatever thing we have a choice and let’s take it we can either

choice and let’s take it we can either

choice and let’s take it we can either keep doing you know human proof stuff

keep doing you know human proof stuff

keep doing you know human proof stuff that nobody wants needs or we can switch

that nobody wants needs or we can switch

that nobody wants needs or we can switch putting the user or putting the human

putting the user or putting the human

putting the user or putting the human being putting people back at the center

being putting people back at the center

being putting people back at the center and make human shape stuff that you know

and make human shape stuff that you know

and make human shape stuff that you know make sense to us and bring some purpose

make sense to us and bring some purpose

make sense to us and bring some purpose and meaning into our lives every

and meaning into our lives every

and meaning into our lives every everyone is trying to change the world

everyone is trying to change the world

everyone is trying to change the world so the UN with its seventeen you know

so the UN with its seventeen you know

so the UN with its seventeen you know development goals I think they make a

development goals I think they make a

development goals I think they make a lot of sense because there is a lot of

lot of sense because there is a lot of

lot of sense because there is a lot of stuff that we need to change out there

stuff that we need to change out there

stuff that we need to change out there goal number seventeen actually is you

goal number seventeen actually is you

goal number seventeen actually is you know kind of suggesting that all the

know kind of suggesting that all the

know kind of suggesting that all the sixteen goals the other goals that we

sixteen goals the other goals that we

sixteen goals the other goals that we solve them in partnerships and I

solve them in partnerships and I

solve them in partnerships and I couldn’t agree more partnerships is the

couldn’t agree more partnerships is the

couldn’t agree more partnerships is the way to go when fixing these problems but

way to go when fixing these problems but

way to go when fixing these problems but I want to add an eighteenth one and I

I want to add an eighteenth one and I

I want to add an eighteenth one and I think they even made space for it down

think they even made space for it down

think they even made space for it down there right which is introducing design

there right which is introducing design

there right which is introducing design because just like partnerships design is

because just like partnerships design is

because just like partnerships design is a universal tool that can help us solve

a universal tool that can help us solve

a universal tool that can help us solve all the other goals in a much better way

all the other goals in a much better way

all the other goals in a much better way so I’d like you really took your help

so I’d like you really took your help

so I’d like you really took your help spread the message to the world

spread the message to the world

spread the message to the world help us amplify the message and join the

help us amplify the message and join the

help us amplify the message and join the conversation with us I’m pretty sure

conversation with us I’m pretty sure

conversation with us I’m pretty sure that if we team up because if you

that if we team up because if you

that if we team up because if you remember what John Heskett said it’s not

remember what John Heskett said it’s not

remember what John Heskett said it’s not about design capacity design is a human

about design capacity design is a human

about design capacity design is a human capacity basically meaning that all of

capacity basically meaning that all of

capacity basically meaning that all of us can chime in so when you get out

us can chime in so when you get out

us can chime in so when you get out there and have a look around yourself

there and have a look around yourself

there and have a look around yourself you know start thinking really thinking

you know start thinking really thinking

you know start thinking really thinking of what you can improve in whatever

of what you can improve in whatever

of what you can improve in whatever you’re doing

you’re doing

you’re doing I’m pretty sure together together you

I’m pretty sure together together you

I’m pretty sure together together you know we can create a human-shaped world

know we can create a human-shaped world

know we can create a human-shaped world thanks a lot

thanks a lot

thanks a lot [Applause]

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