what I’d like to share with you this evening is some of my latest work for
evening is some of my latest work for
evening is some of my latest work for National Geographic about sharks tour as
National Geographic about sharks tour as
National Geographic about sharks tour as we say where I come from in
we say where I come from in
we say where I come from in Massachusetts shox over the last two
Massachusetts shox over the last two
Massachusetts shox over the last two years I’ve worked on four separate
years I’ve worked on four separate
years I’ve worked on four separate projects four separate stories about the
projects four separate stories about the
projects four separate stories about the top predatory species of sharks on
top predatory species of sharks on
top predatory species of sharks on planet earth and the idea was this was
planet earth and the idea was this was
planet earth and the idea was this was done in hopes by running him as Greg
done in hopes by running him as Greg
done in hopes by running him as Greg said by running these stories
said by running these stories
said by running these stories consecutively in the magazine we ran
consecutively in the magazine we ran
consecutively in the magazine we ran three of them one more upcoming the idea
three of them one more upcoming the idea
three of them one more upcoming the idea was to sort of give these animals
was to sort of give these animals
was to sort of give these animals somewhat of a makeover I think the the
somewhat of a makeover I think the the
somewhat of a makeover I think the the hope at least my hope was to to change
hope at least my hope was to to change
hope at least my hope was to to change or replace fear with respect because
or replace fear with respect because
or replace fear with respect because nobody respects sharks more than I do
nobody respects sharks more than I do
nobody respects sharks more than I do believe me nobody respects sharks more
believe me nobody respects sharks more
believe me nobody respects sharks more than me but what I also wanted to do
than me but what I also wanted to do
than me but what I also wanted to do tonight in addition to showing some of
tonight in addition to showing some of
tonight in addition to showing some of this brand new work or the latest work
this brand new work or the latest work
this brand new work or the latest work was to include some earlier work that
was to include some earlier work that
was to include some earlier work that might give a little context to these
might give a little context to these
might give a little context to these news stories because for me sharks have
news stories because for me sharks have
news stories because for me sharks have been sort of this lifelong pursuit
been sort of this lifelong pursuit
been sort of this lifelong pursuit something that has fascinated me for a
something that has fascinated me for a
something that has fascinated me for a very long time and I wanted to sort of
very long time and I wanted to sort of
very long time and I wanted to sort of give context to how I arrived at these
give context to how I arrived at these
give context to how I arrived at these news stories by looking at some of the
news stories by looking at some of the
news stories by looking at some of the the early stuff I actually saw my very
the early stuff I actually saw my very
the early stuff I actually saw my very first shark in the wild back in 1982 it
first shark in the wild back in 1982 it
first shark in the wild back in 1982 it was off the coast of Rhode Island in
was off the coast of Rhode Island in
was off the coast of Rhode Island in very murky waters out there I was about
very murky waters out there I was about
very murky waters out there I was about 20 years old at the time and I had been
20 years old at the time and I had been
20 years old at the time and I had been invited to join a group of marine
invited to join a group of marine
invited to join a group of marine biologists that were doing their own
biologists that were doing their own
biologists that were doing their own sort of little private trips out there
sort of little private trips out there
sort of little private trips out there and they were led by a scientist named
and they were led by a scientist named
and they were led by a scientist named Wes Pratt who had built his own shark
Wes Pratt who had built his own shark
Wes Pratt who had built his own shark cage sort of this little chicken wire
cage sort of this little chicken wire
cage sort of this little chicken wire cage that he made and he would go
cage that he made and he would go
cage that he made and he would go offshore and put a little Chum in the
offshore and put a little Chum in the
offshore and put a little Chum in the water and hope to see mostly blue sharks
water and hope to see mostly blue sharks
water and hope to see mostly blue sharks so I can remember standing in that cage
so I can remember standing in that cage
so I can remember standing in that cage just below the surface on sort of a
just below the surface on sort of a
just below the surface on sort of a mildly rough day and waiting for hours
mildly rough day and waiting for hours
mildly rough day and waiting for hours just staring out into the gloom hoping
just staring out into the gloom hoping
just staring out into the gloom hoping to see a shark I was just about ready to
to see a shark I was just about ready to
to see a shark I was just about ready to give up hope when at about 4 o’clock
give up hope when at about 4 o’clock
give up hope when at about 4 o’clock that afternoon that first shark appeared
that afternoon that first shark appeared
that afternoon that first shark appeared it was a female blue shark about 6 feet
it was a female blue shark about 6 feet
it was a female blue shark about 6 feet long
long
long and the instant I saw her I was both
and the instant I saw her I was both
and the instant I saw her I was both instantly amazed and sort of hypnotized
instantly amazed and sort of hypnotized
instantly amazed and sort of hypnotized stunned by that beautiful blue color
stunned by that beautiful blue color
stunned by that beautiful blue color that they have on their back sort of
that they have on their back sort of
that they have on their back sort of glowed in that afternoon light without
glowed in that afternoon light without
glowed in that afternoon light without really thinking about it I opened the
really thinking about it I opened the
really thinking about it I opened the door of the shark cage and swim outside
door of the shark cage and swim outside
door of the shark cage and swim outside because the shark wasn’t coming close
because the shark wasn’t coming close
because the shark wasn’t coming close enough to the cage and I really wanted
enough to the cage and I really wanted
enough to the cage and I really wanted to get close and to make pictures
to get close and to make pictures
to get close and to make pictures the scientists later told me that I was
the scientists later told me that I was
the scientists later told me that I was the first person to ever swim outside
the first person to ever swim outside
the first person to ever swim outside the cage but I just had to get close I
the cage but I just had to get close I
the cage but I just had to get close I needed to be up close to this animal now
needed to be up close to this animal now
needed to be up close to this animal now my heart was racing in those moments
my heart was racing in those moments
my heart was racing in those moments there was a real mix of emotions on one
there was a real mix of emotions on one
there was a real mix of emotions on one hand I was thinking you know what do I
hand I was thinking you know what do I
hand I was thinking you know what do I do if she comes at me what do I do if
do if she comes at me what do I do if
do if she comes at me what do I do if she tries to bite me and on the other
she tries to bite me and on the other
she tries to bite me and on the other hand I was just so thrilled to finally
hand I was just so thrilled to finally
hand I was just so thrilled to finally be you know out there in the middle of
be you know out there in the middle of
be you know out there in the middle of the ocean with this gorgeous animal
the ocean with this gorgeous animal
the ocean with this gorgeous animal she moved elegantly through the water
she moved elegantly through the water
she moved elegantly through the water sort of meandering her way around coming
sort of meandering her way around coming
sort of meandering her way around coming pretty close at times and clearly aware
pretty close at times and clearly aware
pretty close at times and clearly aware of my presence but really paid me little
of my presence but really paid me little
of my presence but really paid me little attention it was if she was on her own
attention it was if she was on her own
attention it was if she was on her own mission some ancient journey that didn’t
mission some ancient journey that didn’t
mission some ancient journey that didn’t include me and I was just a momentary
include me and I was just a momentary
include me and I was just a momentary distraction after a few minutes she sort
distraction after a few minutes she sort
distraction after a few minutes she sort of just moved away from me and and swam
of just moved away from me and and swam
of just moved away from me and and swam toward the boat and I watched her glide
toward the boat and I watched her glide
toward the boat and I watched her glide into the shadows and then disappear into
into the shadows and then disappear into
into the shadows and then disappear into that late daylight she was gone and once
that late daylight she was gone and once
that late daylight she was gone and once again I found myself sort of just
again I found myself sort of just
again I found myself sort of just drifting alone in that emerald green sea
drifting alone in that emerald green sea
drifting alone in that emerald green sea feeling like I was waking up for a drink
feeling like I was waking up for a drink
feeling like I was waking up for a drink from a dream and and wondering if it was
from a dream and and wondering if it was
from a dream and and wondering if it was all really true if this had really
all really true if this had really
all really true if this had really happened this first encounter
happened this first encounter
happened this first encounter now the first encounter that I had with
now the first encounter that I had with
now the first encounter that I had with a wild shark as I said happened when I
a wild shark as I said happened when I
a wild shark as I said happened when I was about 20 years old that was four
was about 20 years old that was four
was about 20 years old that was four years after I became a certified scuba
years after I became a certified scuba
years after I became a certified scuba diver my my very first seat card right
diver my my very first seat card right
diver my my very first seat card right here was about 16 years old kind of
here was about 16 years old kind of
here was about 16 years old kind of stunning actually how little I’ve
stunning actually how little I’ve
stunning actually how little I’ve changed since since I was 16 but but I
changed since since I was 16 but but I
changed since since I was 16 but but I became a diver because I had this deep
became a diver because I had this deep
became a diver because I had this deep desire to explore the ocean and to
desire to explore the ocean and to
desire to explore the ocean and to photograph animals like sharks that was
photograph animals like sharks that was
photograph animals like sharks that was a big reason why I wanted to become a
a big reason why I wanted to become a
a big reason why I wanted to become a diver and you know until I had that
diver and you know until I had that
diver and you know until I had that first experience with the blue shark
first experience with the blue shark
first experience with the blue shark these animals seemed
these animals seemed
these animals seemed like mythical creatures to me like a
like mythical creatures to me like a
like mythical creatures to me like a unicorn you know I’d read about them but
unicorn you know I’d read about them but
unicorn you know I’d read about them but until you actually are in their presence
until you actually are in their presence
until you actually are in their presence it doesn’t really seem real so the first
it doesn’t really seem real so the first
it doesn’t really seem real so the first experience with the blue shark you know
experience with the blue shark you know
experience with the blue shark you know had me completely hooked no pun intended
had me completely hooked no pun intended
had me completely hooked no pun intended I really knew that I I needed more that
I really knew that I I needed more that
I really knew that I I needed more that I wanted more there was something about
I wanted more there was something about
I wanted more there was something about these animals that that captivated me
these animals that that captivated me
these animals that that captivated me that fascinated me and I knew I had to
that fascinated me and I knew I had to
that fascinated me and I knew I had to get back out into the sea as often as I
get back out into the sea as often as I
get back out into the sea as often as I could you know just brief moments even
could you know just brief moments even
could you know just brief moments even with these animals they’re difficult to
with these animals they’re difficult to
with these animals they’re difficult to photograph and it takes a lot to get out
photograph and it takes a lot to get out
photograph and it takes a lot to get out there and see them but I knew that if I
there and see them but I knew that if I
there and see them but I knew that if I could just get out there a little bit
could just get out there a little bit
could just get out there a little bit more maybe I could satisfy that desire I
more maybe I could satisfy that desire I
more maybe I could satisfy that desire I think part of what attracted me to these
think part of what attracted me to these
think part of what attracted me to these animals was the fact that many species
animals was the fact that many species
animals was the fact that many species of sharks of course are powerful
of sharks of course are powerful
of sharks of course are powerful predators big apex predators and there’s
predators big apex predators and there’s
predators big apex predators and there’s an attraction to that I wanted to
an attraction to that I wanted to
an attraction to that I wanted to experience that for myself up close for
experience that for myself up close for
experience that for myself up close for those of you who have dived with sharks
those of you who have dived with sharks
those of you who have dived with sharks I think you can attest to the fact that
I think you can attest to the fact that
I think you can attest to the fact that there is this seductive blend of grace
there is this seductive blend of grace
there is this seductive blend of grace and power that sort of exudes from these
and power that sort of exudes from these
and power that sort of exudes from these animals it’s palpable when you’re when
animals it’s palpable when you’re when
animals it’s palpable when you’re when you’re in their presence but as a
you’re in their presence but as a
you’re in their presence but as a photographer I also became somewhat
photographer I also became somewhat
photographer I also became somewhat obsessed with sharks from a visual
obsessed with sharks from a visual
obsessed with sharks from a visual perspective you know throughout millions
perspective you know throughout millions
perspective you know throughout millions of years Nature has sculpted these
of years Nature has sculpted these
of years Nature has sculpted these animals to be perfect for life in the
animals to be perfect for life in the
animals to be perfect for life in the sea these very hydrodynamic bodies for
sea these very hydrodynamic bodies for
sea these very hydrodynamic bodies for me they became a subject that I just
me they became a subject that I just
me they became a subject that I just wanted to constantly photograph and
wanted to constantly photograph and
wanted to constantly photograph and always wanted to try to showcase I
always wanted to try to showcase I
always wanted to try to showcase I wanted to get that ultimate shark photo
wanted to get that ultimate shark photo
wanted to get that ultimate shark photo to really show their beautiful shape and
to really show their beautiful shape and
to really show their beautiful shape and form and there’s many different types of
form and there’s many different types of
form and there’s many different types of sharks so it was a it was a lofty goal
sharks so it was a it was a lofty goal
sharks so it was a it was a lofty goal about a decade after I made that very
about a decade after I made that very
about a decade after I made that very first blue shark picture I had that very
first blue shark picture I had that very
first blue shark picture I had that very first encounter 1982 in the mid 90s I
first encounter 1982 in the mid 90s I
first encounter 1982 in the mid 90s I made this photo of another blue shark
made this photo of another blue shark
made this photo of another blue shark near my home in New England and I went
near my home in New England and I went
near my home in New England and I went into the water
into the water
into the water that particular day wanting to make a
that particular day wanting to make a
that particular day wanting to make a picture that really showed and
picture that really showed and
picture that really showed and accentuated their exquisite contours you
accentuated their exquisite contours you
accentuated their exquisite contours you know this was a an animal that truly has
know this was a an animal that truly has
know this was a an animal that truly has been sculpted and has that beautiful
been sculpted and has that beautiful
been sculpted and has that beautiful long slender body and those beautiful
long slender body and those beautiful
long slender body and those beautiful big pectoral fins that help it glide
big pectoral fins that help it glide
big pectoral fins that help it glide through the ocean it was a bright sunny
through the ocean it was a bright sunny
through the ocean it was a bright sunny day but in order to make that photograph
day but in order to make that photograph
day but in order to make that photograph I selected a very high aperture to turn
I selected a very high aperture to turn
I selected a very high aperture to turn the the background sort of black and to
the the background sort of black and to
the the background sort of black and to lit the dorsal side of the animals it
lit the dorsal side of the animals it
lit the dorsal side of the animals it passed below me that little red thing
passed below me that little red thing
passed below me that little red thing streaming off the dorsal fin is actually
streaming off the dorsal fin is actually
streaming off the dorsal fin is actually a parasitic copepod a little pelagic
a parasitic copepod a little pelagic
a parasitic copepod a little pelagic hitchhiker that was adding a dash of red
hitchhiker that was adding a dash of red
hitchhiker that was adding a dash of red color to the otherwise blue background
color to the otherwise blue background
color to the otherwise blue background so as my work evolved and continued with
so as my work evolved and continued with
so as my work evolved and continued with shark’s eye I continued to focus on
shark’s eye I continued to focus on
shark’s eye I continued to focus on these forms and shapes looking at
these forms and shapes looking at
these forms and shapes looking at individual body parts you know the the
individual body parts you know the the
individual body parts you know the the dorsal fin of a of a lemon shark in this
dorsal fin of a of a lemon shark in this
dorsal fin of a of a lemon shark in this case adorned with a trio of remoras
case adorned with a trio of remoras
case adorned with a trio of remoras these parasite fish or the giant unusual
these parasite fish or the giant unusual
these parasite fish or the giant unusual head of a of a great hammerhead shark
head of a of a great hammerhead shark
head of a of a great hammerhead shark very bizarre looking animal that almost
very bizarre looking animal that almost
very bizarre looking animal that almost looks prehistoric but scientists
looks prehistoric but scientists
looks prehistoric but scientists actually tell us that these are animals
actually tell us that these are animals
actually tell us that these are animals that are more evolved than other species
that are more evolved than other species
that are more evolved than other species of sharks because they’re their nostrils
of sharks because they’re their nostrils
of sharks because they’re their nostrils have separated out to either side of
have separated out to either side of
have separated out to either side of that giant hammerhead and they sort of
that giant hammerhead and they sort of
that giant hammerhead and they sort of have stereoscopic smell they’re a little
have stereoscopic smell they’re a little
have stereoscopic smell they’re a little bit of a one-upmanship in the game of
bit of a one-upmanship in the game of
bit of a one-upmanship in the game of evolution in the ocean I also sort of
evolution in the ocean I also sort of
evolution in the ocean I also sort of develop this fascination with with shark
develop this fascination with with shark
develop this fascination with with shark tails
tails
tails you know most photographers that girls
you know most photographers that girls
you know most photographers that girls want to photograph the mouth or the
want to photograph the mouth or the
want to photograph the mouth or the front end of the shark but I became
front end of the shark but I became
front end of the shark but I became really attracted sort of hypnotized by
really attracted sort of hypnotized by
really attracted sort of hypnotized by the tails many species like this tiger
the tails many species like this tiger
the tails many species like this tiger shark or Makos and great whites which
shark or Makos and great whites which
shark or Makos and great whites which we’ll see shortly have these exquisite
we’ll see shortly have these exquisite
we’ll see shortly have these exquisite tails and and a really powerful tail and
tails and and a really powerful tail and
tails and and a really powerful tail and you know now with digital photography I
you know now with digital photography I
you know now with digital photography I had the luxury of being able to shoot
had the luxury of being able to shoot
had the luxury of being able to shoot more frames not relegated to 36 on a
more frames not relegated to 36 on a
more frames not relegated to 36 on a roll of film so I could experiment more
roll of film so I could experiment more
roll of film so I could experiment more and take these kinds of pictures and so
and take these kinds of pictures and so
and take these kinds of pictures and so to satisfy this weird obsession I have
to satisfy this weird obsession I have
to satisfy this weird obsession I have with with shark tails but one of the
with with shark tails but one of the
with with shark tails but one of the other things that was important to me
other things that was important to me
other things that was important to me one of the things that I tried to do
one of the things that I tried to do
one of the things that I tried to do with photography was to make pictures
with photography was to make pictures
with photography was to make pictures that allowed us or allowed animals like
that allowed us or allowed animals like
that allowed us or allowed animals like sharks to sort of display their
sharks to sort of display their
sharks to sort of display their exceptional biology you know sharks have
exceptional biology you know sharks have
exceptional biology you know sharks have evolved over hundreds of millions of
evolved over hundreds of millions of
evolved over hundreds of millions of years they haven’t really changed in
years they haven’t really changed in
years they haven’t really changed in hundreds of millions of years because
hundreds of millions of years because
hundreds of millions of years because they’re perfect for their life in the
they’re perfect for their life in the
they’re perfect for their life in the ocean but I wanted to make images that
ocean but I wanted to make images that
ocean but I wanted to make images that would allow let’s say the text and a
would allow let’s say the text and a
would allow let’s say the text and a story to talk about some of these
story to talk about some of these
story to talk about some of these features like their eyes you know most
features like their eyes you know most
features like their eyes you know most sharks have eyes that are exceptionally
sharks have eyes that are exceptionally
sharks have eyes that are exceptionally good in dark water you know we know that
good in dark water you know we know that
good in dark water you know we know that a cat can see really good in dark light
a cat can see really good in dark light
a cat can see really good in dark light but sharks can see twice as good
but sharks can see twice as good
but sharks can see twice as good as a cat can and these animals have skin
as a cat can and these animals have skin
as a cat can and these animals have skin that is made up of millions of tiny
that is made up of millions of tiny
that is made up of millions of tiny little teeth they’re called dermal
little teeth they’re called dermal
little teeth they’re called dermal denticles but they’re very hydrodynamic
denticles but they’re very hydrodynamic
denticles but they’re very hydrodynamic and you know help the animal efficiently
and you know help the animal efficiently
and you know help the animal efficiently swim through the ocean and I don’t if
swim through the ocean and I don’t if
swim through the ocean and I don’t if you can see in this photo but they’ve
you can see in this photo but they’ve
you can see in this photo but they’ve also evolved these little dots on their
also evolved these little dots on their
also evolved these little dots on their nose on their snout there these are
nose on their snout there these are
nose on their snout there these are called ampullae of Lorenzini and they’re
called ampullae of Lorenzini and they’re
called ampullae of Lorenzini and they’re a nerve ending that allows the shark to
a nerve ending that allows the shark to
a nerve ending that allows the shark to detect electrical impulses in the water
detect electrical impulses in the water
detect electrical impulses in the water like the beating heart of a fish so if
like the beating heart of a fish so if
like the beating heart of a fish so if they’re hunting in very murky water or
they’re hunting in very murky water or
they’re hunting in very murky water or eyesight doesn’t work they can use those
eyesight doesn’t work they can use those
eyesight doesn’t work they can use those ampullae of Lorenzini to home in on
ampullae of Lorenzini to home in on
ampullae of Lorenzini to home in on their prey so just amazing predators and
their prey so just amazing predators and
their prey so just amazing predators and being able to make pictures that allow
being able to make pictures that allow
being able to make pictures that allow you know the text to talk about that was
you know the text to talk about that was
you know the text to talk about that was important and in terms of evolution i
important and in terms of evolution i
important and in terms of evolution i also wanted to show that you know a
also wanted to show that you know a
also wanted to show that you know a shark is not as a shark as a shark that
shark is not as a shark as a shark that
shark is not as a shark as a shark that they’ve all developed and evolved
they’ve all developed and evolved
they’ve all developed and evolved morphologically for the environment that
morphologically for the environment that
morphologically for the environment that they happen to inhabit and even with
they happen to inhabit and even with
they happen to inhabit and even with things like their teeth they’re not all
things like their teeth they’re not all
things like their teeth they’re not all the same at all this is a sand tiger
the same at all this is a sand tiger
the same at all this is a sand tiger shark that i photographed in japan and
shark that i photographed in japan and
shark that i photographed in japan and you can see those sort of long slender
you can see those sort of long slender
you can see those sort of long slender teeth that the sand tiger has which are
teeth that the sand tiger has which are
teeth that the sand tiger has which are very different than a regular tiger
very different than a regular tiger
very different than a regular tiger shark this is a tiger shark and you can
shark this is a tiger shark and you can
shark this is a tiger shark and you can see those sort of triangular serrated
see those sort of triangular serrated
see those sort of triangular serrated teeth here that the tiger shark has
teeth here that the tiger shark has
teeth here that the tiger shark has which are used for chomping into their
which are used for chomping into their
which are used for chomping into their prey which is often things like sea
prey which is often things like sea
prey which is often things like sea turtles sorry for the sea turtle fans
turtles sorry for the sea turtle fans
turtles sorry for the sea turtle fans and the audience but but you know
and the audience but but you know
and the audience but but you know they’re very different so you know
they’re very different so you know
they’re very different so you know making these kinds of pictures helped I
making these kinds of pictures helped I
making these kinds of pictures helped I think readers and helped you know give
think readers and helped you know give
think readers and helped you know give some some dimension to these animals and
some some dimension to these animals and
some some dimension to these animals and also wanted a photograph species like
also wanted a photograph species like
also wanted a photograph species like the whale shark which doesn’t have teeth
the whale shark which doesn’t have teeth
the whale shark which doesn’t have teeth at all or the teeth that it has are very
at all or the teeth that it has are very
at all or the teeth that it has are very very small this is a a plankton feeder
very small this is a a plankton feeder
very small this is a a plankton feeder not a predatory shark but the biggest
not a predatory shark but the biggest
not a predatory shark but the biggest fish in the ocean this is one that I
fish in the ocean this is one that I
fish in the ocean this is one that I photographed in Mexico and was sort of
photographed in Mexico and was sort of
photographed in Mexico and was sort of entranced by this living wreath of bait
entranced by this living wreath of bait
entranced by this living wreath of bait fish that was encircling its head as I
fish that was encircling its head as I
fish that was encircling its head as I was free diving alongside of it there
was free diving alongside of it there
was free diving alongside of it there that day in these coastal waters that
that day in these coastal waters that
that day in these coastal waters that were very green actually saw my very
were very green actually saw my very
were very green actually saw my very first whale shark in Western Australia
first whale shark in Western Australia
first whale shark in Western Australia back in 1995 giant animal and I can
back in 1995 giant animal and I can
back in 1995 giant animal and I can remember we were using spotter planes to
remember we were using spotter planes to
remember we were using spotter planes to go out and sort of find them and then
go out and sort of find them and then
go out and sort of find them and then when they found one they would radio to
when they found one they would radio to
when they found one they would radio to the boat and tell us where it was and
the boat and tell us where it was and
the boat and tell us where it was and we’d position ourselves way in front of
we’d position ourselves way in front of
we’d position ourselves way in front of it and
it and
it and I would slip into the water and just
I would slip into the water and just
I would slip into the water and just sort of wait there snorkeling for this
sort of wait there snorkeling for this
sort of wait there snorkeling for this animal that materialized out of the blue
animal that materialized out of the blue
animal that materialized out of the blue and you know it was like swimming next
and you know it was like swimming next
and you know it was like swimming next to a dinosaur that’s the the closest
to a dinosaur that’s the the closest
to a dinosaur that’s the the closest thing I could imagine just silently
thing I could imagine just silently
thing I could imagine just silently emerges and then sort of fades off into
emerges and then sort of fades off into
emerges and then sort of fades off into the gloom but you know despite my own
the gloom but you know despite my own
the gloom but you know despite my own personal fascination and love of sharks
personal fascination and love of sharks
personal fascination and love of sharks I realized that these are animals that
I realized that these are animals that
I realized that these are animals that for many people are something to fear
for many people are something to fear
for many people are something to fear something that they don’t like you know
something that they don’t like you know
something that they don’t like you know there’s still the old adage that the
there’s still the old adage that the
there’s still the old adage that the only good shark is a dead shark and
only good shark is a dead shark and
only good shark is a dead shark and sharks have been portrayed as demons
sharks have been portrayed as demons
sharks have been portrayed as demons something that must be killed you know
something that must be killed you know
something that must be killed you know this has certainly been true in modern
this has certainly been true in modern
this has certainly been true in modern times of course with films like Jaws
times of course with films like Jaws
times of course with films like Jaws it’s even though jaws sort of demonized
it’s even though jaws sort of demonized
it’s even though jaws sort of demonized sharks I have to say I do love that film
sharks I have to say I do love that film
sharks I have to say I do love that film but for other reasons but but you know
but for other reasons but but you know
but for other reasons but but you know we were sort of demonizing and
we were sort of demonizing and
we were sort of demonizing and villainizing these animals long before
villainizing these animals long before
villainizing these animals long before Jaws the book or the movie came out this
Jaws the book or the movie came out this
Jaws the book or the movie came out this is a painting that was done by John
is a painting that was done by John
is a painting that was done by John Singleton Copley in 1778 it’s called
Singleton Copley in 1778 it’s called
Singleton Copley in 1778 it’s called Watson and the shark and it shows this
Watson and the shark and it shows this
Watson and the shark and it shows this you know monster like shark about to eat
you know monster like shark about to eat
you know monster like shark about to eat this woman that’s fallen in the ocean
this woman that’s fallen in the ocean
this woman that’s fallen in the ocean and all these people are being
and all these people are being
and all these people are being terrorized and you know I think for a
terrorized and you know I think for a
terrorized and you know I think for a very long time sharks have been
very long time sharks have been
very long time sharks have been portrayed as these sort of shadowy
portrayed as these sort of shadowy
portrayed as these sort of shadowy one-dimensional monsters that don’t have
one-dimensional monsters that don’t have
one-dimensional monsters that don’t have any depth to them they’re just out there
any depth to them they’re just out there
any depth to them they’re just out there waiting to eat us the second we put our
waiting to eat us the second we put our
waiting to eat us the second we put our toe in the ocean and the reality of
toe in the ocean and the reality of
toe in the ocean and the reality of course is that although they are
course is that although they are
course is that although they are predators and have the potential to do
predators and have the potential to do
predators and have the potential to do harm to humans we’re definitely not on
harm to humans we’re definitely not on
harm to humans we’re definitely not on the menu and these are actually rather
the menu and these are actually rather
the menu and these are actually rather complex animal sciences only beginning
complex animal sciences only beginning
complex animal sciences only beginning to fully understand them but they’re
to fully understand them but they’re
to fully understand them but they’re very very complex creatures and they
very very complex creatures and they
very very complex creatures and they play a vital role in the health of the
play a vital role in the health of the
play a vital role in the health of the ocean so as I worked on new stories for
ocean so as I worked on new stories for
ocean so as I worked on new stories for the magazine I wanted to produce images
the magazine I wanted to produce images
the magazine I wanted to produce images that would allow people to see sharks
that would allow people to see sharks
that would allow people to see sharks and new ways you know in new light and
and new ways you know in new light and
and new ways you know in new light and help change some of these misconceptions
help change some of these misconceptions
help change some of these misconceptions that exist whenever possible I wanted to
that exist whenever possible I wanted to
that exist whenever possible I wanted to make images that showed sharks within
make images that showed sharks within
make images that showed sharks within their environment because what we’ve
their environment because what we’ve
their environment because what we’ve learned over time is that healthy
learned over time is that healthy
learned over time is that healthy ecosystems in the ocean depend on
ecosystems in the ocean depend on
ecosystems in the ocean depend on healthy populations of predators
healthy populations of predators
healthy populations of predators particularly animals like sharks this is
particularly animals like sharks this is
particularly animals like sharks this is an image that I made of a black tip reef
an image that I made of a black tip reef
an image that I made of a black tip reef shark in a place called millennial at
shark in a place called millennial at
shark in a place called millennial at Millennium at all out in the
Millennium at all out in the
Millennium at all out in the the central South Pacific one of these
the central South Pacific one of these
the central South Pacific one of these places that because of its remoteness
places that because of its remoteness
places that because of its remoteness has remained largely unspoiled and it’s
has remained largely unspoiled and it’s
has remained largely unspoiled and it’s a very Sharky place the biomass of
a very Sharky place the biomass of
a very Sharky place the biomass of predators like sharks is very high there
predators like sharks is very high there
predators like sharks is very high there and there’s a direct correlation between
and there’s a direct correlation between
and there’s a direct correlation between the the number of sharks and the health
the the number of sharks and the health
the the number of sharks and the health of the the coral reefs this is science
of the the coral reefs this is science
of the the coral reefs this is science that enric’s all and is pristine C’s
that enric’s all and is pristine C’s
that enric’s all and is pristine C’s team who I think might be here tonight
team who I think might be here tonight
team who I think might be here tonight have sort of proven and I saw it not
have sort of proven and I saw it not
have sort of proven and I saw it not only in these places but in other places
only in these places but in other places
only in these places but in other places you know I was on an assignment for the
you know I was on an assignment for the
you know I was on an assignment for the magazine a number of years ago in New
magazine a number of years ago in New
magazine a number of years ago in New Zealand doing a story on marine reserves
Zealand doing a story on marine reserves
Zealand doing a story on marine reserves and I was in Fiordland this very shadowy
and I was in Fiordland this very shadowy
and I was in Fiordland this very shadowy sort of Lord of the Rings place and
sort of Lord of the Rings place and
sort of Lord of the Rings place and diving in the temperate water there and
diving in the temperate water there and
diving in the temperate water there and I was photographing macro life on the
I was photographing macro life on the
I was photographing macro life on the wall there’s colorful little tiny
wall there’s colorful little tiny
wall there’s colorful little tiny animals and I looked up and in the
animals and I looked up and in the
animals and I looked up and in the distance saw this sevengill shark a very
distance saw this sevengill shark a very
distance saw this sevengill shark a very prehistoric looking animal sort of
prehistoric looking animal sort of
prehistoric looking animal sort of coming at me so I I swapped my macro rig
coming at me so I I swapped my macro rig
coming at me so I I swapped my macro rig for a wide-angle that my assistant was
for a wide-angle that my assistant was
for a wide-angle that my assistant was holding and was able to make a single
holding and was able to make a single
holding and was able to make a single frame but again the correlation is
frame but again the correlation is
frame but again the correlation is between healthy shark populations and
between healthy shark populations and
between healthy shark populations and healthy oceans it’s it’s a direct
healthy oceans it’s it’s a direct
healthy oceans it’s it’s a direct correlation and that’s what I’ve learned
correlation and that’s what I’ve learned
correlation and that’s what I’ve learned so whenever possible and want to make
so whenever possible and want to make
so whenever possible and want to make images that sort of speak to that that
images that sort of speak to that that
images that sort of speak to that that relationship and it was the same
relationship and it was the same
relationship and it was the same everywhere I went you know you’d go to
everywhere I went you know you’d go to
everywhere I went you know you’d go to places that were saw dead coral reefs
places that were saw dead coral reefs
places that were saw dead coral reefs and in parts of the Caribbean let’s say
and in parts of the Caribbean let’s say
and in parts of the Caribbean let’s say and you just didn’t see many sharks or I
and you just didn’t see many sharks or I
and you just didn’t see many sharks or I went to the Bahamas with places in the
went to the Bahamas with places in the
went to the Bahamas with places in the Bahamas where the reefs were were pretty
Bahamas where the reefs were were pretty
Bahamas where the reefs were were pretty healthy and there were lots of sharks
healthy and there were lots of sharks
healthy and there were lots of sharks around so you could see it it was quite
around so you could see it it was quite
around so you could see it it was quite evident and in in my work as it evolved
evident and in in my work as it evolved
evident and in in my work as it evolved I also wanted particularly in the
I also wanted particularly in the
I also wanted particularly in the stories for National Geographic I wanted
stories for National Geographic I wanted
stories for National Geographic I wanted to try to show readers a little bit more
to try to show readers a little bit more
to try to show readers a little bit more of the lives of sharks a little bit more
of the lives of sharks a little bit more
of the lives of sharks a little bit more the life cycle you know particularly
the life cycle you know particularly
the life cycle you know particularly focusing for a period of time on on baby
focusing for a period of time on on baby
focusing for a period of time on on baby sharks on shark pups because at the time
sharks on shark pups because at the time
sharks on shark pups because at the time I made this photo of a lemon shark pup
I made this photo of a lemon shark pup
I made this photo of a lemon shark pup in Bimini in the Bahamas
in Bimini in the Bahamas
in Bimini in the Bahamas and hadn’t really seen a lot of images
and hadn’t really seen a lot of images
and hadn’t really seen a lot of images of this kind of thing but it’s in in
of this kind of thing but it’s in in
of this kind of thing but it’s in in very it’s a very important part of the
very it’s a very important part of the
very it’s a very important part of the equation you know most folks just want
equation you know most folks just want
equation you know most folks just want to look at the big scary sharks or the
to look at the big scary sharks or the
to look at the big scary sharks or the jaws and the teeth and the blood and
jaws and the teeth and the blood and
jaws and the teeth and the blood and that kind of thing but you know this is
that kind of thing but you know this is
that kind of thing but you know this is an important part of the equation lemon
an important part of the equation lemon
an important part of the equation lemon shark pups have their babies in mangrove
shark pups have their babies in mangrove
shark pups have their babies in mangrove nurseries and these very shallow places
nurseries and these very shallow places
nurseries and these very shallow places where trees grow out of the water and
where trees grow out of the water and
where trees grow out of the water and it’s a place where big predators
it’s a place where big predators
it’s a place where big predators get in and the lemon sharks live for the
get in and the lemon sharks live for the
get in and the lemon sharks live for the first two to three years of their lives
first two to three years of their lives
first two to three years of their lives in these nurseries where they feed and
in these nurseries where they feed and
in these nurseries where they feed and eventually get big enough to go out and
eventually get big enough to go out and
eventually get big enough to go out and compete on the reef but this was a
compete on the reef but this was a
compete on the reef but this was a fairly new born lemon shark pup that was
fairly new born lemon shark pup that was
fairly new born lemon shark pup that was maybe only 12 inches in length swimming
maybe only 12 inches in length swimming
maybe only 12 inches in length swimming in about a foot deep of water I spent
in about a foot deep of water I spent
in about a foot deep of water I spent days laying in that mangrove trying to
days laying in that mangrove trying to
days laying in that mangrove trying to get the Sharks to build up their courage
get the Sharks to build up their courage
get the Sharks to build up their courage and come close and after I left this
and come close and after I left this
and come close and after I left this place I learned that some of these
place I learned that some of these
place I learned that some of these mangroves had been bulldozed so that a
mangroves had been bulldozed so that a
mangroves had been bulldozed so that a golf course could be made for a resort
golf course could be made for a resort
golf course could be made for a resort and this is the only shark nursery for
and this is the only shark nursery for
and this is the only shark nursery for 150 miles around and critical habitat so
150 miles around and critical habitat so
150 miles around and critical habitat so these are vital so having images like
these are vital so having images like
these are vital so having images like this within the context of a story I
this within the context of a story I
this within the context of a story I think helps people to understand the
think helps people to understand the
think helps people to understand the importance of protecting places like
importance of protecting places like
importance of protecting places like this and whenever possible I also wanted
this and whenever possible I also wanted
this and whenever possible I also wanted to show behavior with sharks it’s a
to show behavior with sharks it’s a
to show behavior with sharks it’s a little hard to do sometimes but while
little hard to do sometimes but while
little hard to do sometimes but while working on a story about the
working on a story about the
working on a story about the Mesoamerican Reef that is the second
Mesoamerican Reef that is the second
Mesoamerican Reef that is the second largest Barrier Reef in the world I was
largest Barrier Reef in the world I was
largest Barrier Reef in the world I was able to photograph Caribbean reef sharks
able to photograph Caribbean reef sharks
able to photograph Caribbean reef sharks predating on lionfish now as you may
predating on lionfish now as you may
predating on lionfish now as you may know lionfish are invasive species in in
know lionfish are invasive species in in
know lionfish are invasive species in in the Atlantic Ocean they’ve sort of just
the Atlantic Ocean they’ve sort of just
the Atlantic Ocean they’ve sort of just exploded and there haven’t really been
exploded and there haven’t really been
exploded and there haven’t really been any great solutions to eradicating them
any great solutions to eradicating them
any great solutions to eradicating them there’s some places where divers will go
there’s some places where divers will go
there’s some places where divers will go down and and try to spear them and it’s
down and and try to spear them and it’s
down and and try to spear them and it’s had some low-level impact but in Roatan
had some low-level impact but in Roatan
had some low-level impact but in Roatan and Honduras there was a shark biologist
and Honduras there was a shark biologist
and Honduras there was a shark biologist that over a couple years had been trying
that over a couple years had been trying
that over a couple years had been trying to train the local Caribbean reef sharks
to train the local Caribbean reef sharks
to train the local Caribbean reef sharks to acquire a taste for these he had
to acquire a taste for these he had
to acquire a taste for these he had initially spear them and and feed them
initially spear them and and feed them
initially spear them and and feed them to them and over time they began to
to them and over time they began to
to them and over time they began to naturally predate on them and it was
naturally predate on them and it was
naturally predate on them and it was controlling the population they were
controlling the population they were
controlling the population they were beginning to to go down and naturally
beginning to to go down and naturally
beginning to to go down and naturally per day Don that so that was important
per day Don that so that was important
per day Don that so that was important too but at the end of the day I mostly
too but at the end of the day I mostly
too but at the end of the day I mostly really hope that by showing sharks as
really hope that by showing sharks as
really hope that by showing sharks as something beautiful as just beautiful
something beautiful as just beautiful
something beautiful as just beautiful animals you know making pictures that
animals you know making pictures that
animals you know making pictures that would intrigue the reader and making
would intrigue the reader and making
would intrigue the reader and making them want to know more might dispel some
them want to know more might dispel some
them want to know more might dispel some of that fear again that shadowy you know
of that fear again that shadowy you know
of that fear again that shadowy you know looking at pictures like koppel teeth
looking at pictures like koppel teeth
looking at pictures like koppel teeth copy that you know just make them look
copy that you know just make them look
copy that you know just make them look like monsters isn’t gonna help anything
like monsters isn’t gonna help anything
like monsters isn’t gonna help anything but if we can show these animals is more
but if we can show these animals is more
but if we can show these animals is more beautiful I mean maybe not quite
beautiful I mean maybe not quite
beautiful I mean maybe not quite dolphins but but certainly something to
dolphins but but certainly something to
dolphins but but certainly something to to marvel at and while working on a
to marvel at and while working on a
to marvel at and while working on a story about sharks of the Bahamas a few
story about sharks of the Bahamas a few
story about sharks of the Bahamas a few years for the magazine I spent 18 days
years for the magazine I spent 18 days
years for the magazine I spent 18 days in wintertime in the Bahamas trying to
in wintertime in the Bahamas trying to
in wintertime in the Bahamas trying to get a photo of the elusive great
get a photo of the elusive great
get a photo of the elusive great hammerhead that we see here but the
hammerhead that we see here but the
hammerhead that we see here but the because of the rough weather that we had
because of the rough weather that we had
because of the rough weather that we had at that time of year I only had two days
at that time of year I only had two days
at that time of year I only had two days where I could actually work and I made
where I could actually work and I made
where I could actually work and I made this frame on the very last night at
this frame on the very last night at
this frame on the very last night at sunset when this big 14-foot male should
sunset when this big 14-foot male should
sunset when this big 14-foot male should have just swirled in just below the
have just swirled in just below the
have just swirled in just below the surface but you know the idea was that
surface but you know the idea was that
surface but you know the idea was that my hope is that a photo like this might
my hope is that a photo like this might
my hope is that a photo like this might engage people or readers in the magazine
engage people or readers in the magazine
engage people or readers in the magazine they want to read the caption and
they want to read the caption and
they want to read the caption and hopefully the story and learn that
hopefully the story and learn that
hopefully the story and learn that camera had populations in the last 20
camera had populations in the last 20
camera had populations in the last 20 years or so in the in the Atlantic Ocean
years or so in the in the Atlantic Ocean
years or so in the in the Atlantic Ocean have declined about 89 percent these are
have declined about 89 percent these are
have declined about 89 percent these are animals that we don’t know very much
animals that we don’t know very much
animals that we don’t know very much about we don’t know where they travel to
about we don’t know where they travel to
about we don’t know where they travel to or from necessarily we don’t know where
or from necessarily we don’t know where
or from necessarily we don’t know where they mate we don’t know where they have
they mate we don’t know where they have
they mate we don’t know where they have their pups and we’re losing them faster
their pups and we’re losing them faster
their pups and we’re losing them faster than we can learn about them so to be
than we can learn about them so to be
than we can learn about them so to be able to make beautiful pictures or
able to make beautiful pictures or
able to make beautiful pictures or engaging images of sharks I think is a
engaging images of sharks I think is a
engaging images of sharks I think is a big part of it the fact is almost every
big part of it the fact is almost every
big part of it the fact is almost every species of shark out there in the world
species of shark out there in the world
species of shark out there in the world is in real trouble certainly all the
is in real trouble certainly all the
is in real trouble certainly all the predatory species and they really do
predatory species and they really do
predatory species and they really do need our help
need our help
need our help so as my career evolved I wanted to turn
so as my career evolved I wanted to turn
so as my career evolved I wanted to turn my camera to its some of the darker side
my camera to its some of the darker side
my camera to its some of the darker side of what was happening to sharks as well
of what was happening to sharks as well
of what was happening to sharks as well because I felt it was necessary to show
because I felt it was necessary to show
because I felt it was necessary to show people what was happening to these
people what was happening to these
people what was happening to these animals and the global slaughter that
animals and the global slaughter that
animals and the global slaughter that was occurring around the world a lot of
was occurring around the world a lot of
was occurring around the world a lot of sharks are killed for food but the truth
sharks are killed for food but the truth
sharks are killed for food but the truth is this is wildlife and every single
is this is wildlife and every single
is this is wildlife and every single year right now on planet earth more than
year right now on planet earth more than
year right now on planet earth more than a hundred million sharks are being
a hundred million sharks are being
a hundred million sharks are being killed I mean think about that number a
killed I mean think about that number a
killed I mean think about that number a hundred million sharks we can’t kill a
hundred million sharks we can’t kill a
hundred million sharks we can’t kill a hundred million apex predators and
hundred million apex predators and
hundred million apex predators and expect any ecosystem to be healthy and
expect any ecosystem to be healthy and
expect any ecosystem to be healthy and that’s certainly the case here so as I
that’s certainly the case here so as I
that’s certainly the case here so as I worked on these kinds of stories I sort
worked on these kinds of stories I sort
worked on these kinds of stories I sort of got away from trying to make you know
of got away from trying to make you know
of got away from trying to make you know beautiful pictures and approached it
beautiful pictures and approached it
beautiful pictures and approached it more like war photography I wanted to
more like war photography I wanted to
more like war photography I wanted to make images that would would grab
make images that would would grab
make images that would would grab people’s attention so it was dead sharks
people’s attention so it was dead sharks
people’s attention so it was dead sharks being cut up on a beach or a dead mako
being cut up on a beach or a dead mako
being cut up on a beach or a dead mako shark in a gill net and showing another
shark in a gill net and showing another
shark in a gill net and showing another mako here on the beach being fin you
mako here on the beach being fin you
mako here on the beach being fin you know most of those sharks the hundred
know most of those sharks the hundred
know most of those sharks the hundred million or whatever the actual number is
million or whatever the actual number is
million or whatever the actual number is maybe more than 100 million most of
maybe more than 100 million most of
maybe more than 100 million most of those are killed for their fins for the
those are killed for their fins for the
those are killed for their fins for the soup fin business and the shark fin soup
soup fin business and the shark fin soup
soup fin business and the shark fin soup that’s very popular in Asia and that’s
that’s very popular in Asia and that’s
that’s very popular in Asia and that’s what’s happening here they fetch a very
what’s happening here they fetch a very
what’s happening here they fetch a very high price so that’s the first thing
high price so that’s the first thing
high price so that’s the first thing that the fisherman goes for and as I was
that the fisherman goes for and as I was
that the fisherman goes for and as I was working on this story I I wanted it was
working on this story I I wanted it was
working on this story I I wanted it was a story about the global fish crisis the
a story about the global fish crisis the
a story about the global fish crisis the problems
problems
problems of overfishing and shark fishing was a
of overfishing and shark fishing was a
of overfishing and shark fishing was a big component of that I really wanted an
big component of that I really wanted an
big component of that I really wanted an image that would create some empathy for
image that would create some empathy for
image that would create some empathy for these animals I think you know this
these animals I think you know this
these animals I think you know this picture might have done it but it was
picture might have done it but it was
picture might have done it but it was actually one morning when I jumped in
actually one morning when I jumped in
actually one morning when I jumped in the water in the Sea of Cortez came
the water in the Sea of Cortez came
the water in the Sea of Cortez came along uh a gill net where this thresher
along uh a gill net where this thresher
along uh a gill net where this thresher shark had just recently died and it’s I
shark had just recently died and it’s I
shark had just recently died and it’s I was still open and because it’s a
was still open and because it’s a
was still open and because it’s a pelagic animal that had these great big
pelagic animal that had these great big
pelagic animal that had these great big pectoral fins like we saw on the blue
pectoral fins like we saw on the blue
pectoral fins like we saw on the blue shark earlier and you know as I framed
shark earlier and you know as I framed
shark earlier and you know as I framed it up in my camera’s viewfinder it sort
it up in my camera’s viewfinder it sort
it up in my camera’s viewfinder it sort of struck me as a crucifixion and I
of struck me as a crucifixion and I
of struck me as a crucifixion and I thought that maybe that would give some
thought that maybe that would give some
thought that maybe that would give some empathy to these animals that that
empathy to these animals that that
empathy to these animals that that really are in trouble and need our help
really are in trouble and need our help
really are in trouble and need our help it became the lead picture in that cover
it became the lead picture in that cover
it became the lead picture in that cover story in 2007 but it’s gone on to have a
story in 2007 but it’s gone on to have a
story in 2007 but it’s gone on to have a life beyond that being used by a number
life beyond that being used by a number
life beyond that being used by a number of conservation organizations as well to
of conservation organizations as well to
of conservation organizations as well to sort of beat that drum and help people
sort of beat that drum and help people
sort of beat that drum and help people understand the plight of sharks so all
understand the plight of sharks so all
understand the plight of sharks so all of this sort of preload brings me to the
of this sort of preload brings me to the
of this sort of preload brings me to the work that I recently did for National
work that I recently did for National
work that I recently did for National Geographic these series of four stories
Geographic these series of four stories
Geographic these series of four stories about some of the top predatory species
about some of the top predatory species
about some of the top predatory species of sharks as Greg mentioned we ran three
of sharks as Greg mentioned we ran three
of sharks as Greg mentioned we ran three of them this summer in June July and
of them this summer in June July and
of them this summer in June July and August and we have one story yet to be
August and we have one story yet to be
August and we have one story yet to be published a story on mako sharks that
published a story on mako sharks that
published a story on mako sharks that that will be upcoming and you know I
that will be upcoming and you know I
that will be upcoming and you know I think my hope was that by doing that as
think my hope was that by doing that as
think my hope was that by doing that as I mentioned earlier consecutively
I mentioned earlier consecutively
I mentioned earlier consecutively readers would would come to see these
readers would would come to see these
readers would would come to see these animals as different as to some degree
animals as different as to some degree
animals as different as to some degree having personality and as being
having personality and as being
having personality and as being something that we can not only respect
something that we can not only respect
something that we can not only respect but but really marvel at you know I I
but but really marvel at you know I I
but but really marvel at you know I I don’t have any illusions that the sharks
don’t have any illusions that the sharks
don’t have any illusions that the sharks or fish which is what they are of course
or fish which is what they are of course
or fish which is what they are of course will ever be held in the same regard
will ever be held in the same regard
will ever be held in the same regard that a furry mammal you know I think we
that a furry mammal you know I think we
that a furry mammal you know I think we have a natural affinity to terrestrial
have a natural affinity to terrestrial
have a natural affinity to terrestrial animals particularly cute animals that
animals particularly cute animals that
animals particularly cute animals that live in the forest but I do think that
live in the forest but I do think that
live in the forest but I do think that if we can we can show these animals as
if we can we can show these animals as
if we can we can show these animals as miracles of evolution then maybe we can
miracles of evolution then maybe we can
miracles of evolution then maybe we can get some respect and if we get the
get some respect and if we get the
get some respect and if we get the respect than appreciation and move that
respect than appreciation and move that
respect than appreciation and move that dial a little bit in terms of
dial a little bit in terms of
dial a little bit in terms of conservation
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