so let me start with the very beginning of the education process here in Hong
of the education process here in Hong
of the education process here in Hong Kong most of the children who start some
Kong most of the children who start some
Kong most of the children who start some form of organised and formal education
form of organised and formal education
form of organised and formal education around the age of two so it’s basically
around the age of two so it’s basically
around the age of two so it’s basically a case where most of the kids barely
a case where most of the kids barely
a case where most of the kids barely know how to stand up for a long period
know how to stand up for a long period
know how to stand up for a long period of time walk and run and then they will
of time walk and run and then they will
of time walk and run and then they will be sent to school to learn which is okay
be sent to school to learn which is okay
be sent to school to learn which is okay and in the context of Hong Kong
and in the context of Hong Kong
and in the context of Hong Kong theoretically preschool education is not
theoretically preschool education is not
theoretically preschool education is not mandatory so basically the to the
mandatory so basically the to the
mandatory so basically the to the parents can choose to go or not to go
parents can choose to go or not to go
parents can choose to go or not to go but increasingly we know that more and
but increasingly we know that more and
but increasingly we know that more and more parents will send the kids to
more parents will send the kids to
more parents will send the kids to school at a very early stage two and two
school at a very early stage two and two
school at a very early stage two and two plus most of the time and sometimes you
plus most of the time and sometimes you
plus most of the time and sometimes you also find some of the kids would go to
also find some of the kids would go to
also find some of the kids would go to school before the age of two and because
school before the age of two and because
school before the age of two and because of the growing numbers of parents
of the growing numbers of parents
of the growing numbers of parents sending their kids to school at an early
sending their kids to school at an early
sending their kids to school at an early stage so this creates certain impacts on
stage so this creates certain impacts on
stage so this creates certain impacts on our system first of all it intensified
our system first of all it intensified
our system first of all it intensified the process of preparation for going to
the process of preparation for going to
the process of preparation for going to school at such an early stage for
school at such an early stage for
school at such an early stage for instance for many parents they think
instance for many parents they think
instance for many parents they think that you know they make backup plans
that you know they make backup plans
that you know they make backup plans they need to make sure that you know
they need to make sure that you know
they need to make sure that you know they will be able to send their kids to
they will be able to send their kids to
they will be able to send their kids to school right at the age of two twenty
school right at the age of two twenty
school right at the age of two twenty years ago when I send my eldest son to
years ago when I send my eldest son to
years ago when I send my eldest son to pre nursery well basically I apply for
pre nursery well basically I apply for
pre nursery well basically I apply for two schools and at that time I think
two schools and at that time I think
two schools and at that time I think that actually I’m quite crazy because
that actually I’m quite crazy because
that actually I’m quite crazy because actually we can afford not to go to
actually we can afford not to go to
actually we can afford not to go to school at the age of two so if I apply
school at the age of two so if I apply
school at the age of two so if I apply and fail so what but I did apply for two
and fail so what but I did apply for two
and fail so what but I did apply for two schools and then we have a backup and it
schools and then we have a backup and it
schools and then we have a backup and it works out perfectly twenty years later
works out perfectly twenty years later
works out perfectly twenty years later when I asked most of the younger parents
when I asked most of the younger parents
when I asked most of the younger parents so what have you done normally the
so what have you done normally the
so what have you done normally the answer is that they have applied for
answer is that they have applied for
answer is that they have applied for something like ten some even twelve
something like ten some even twelve
something like ten some even twelve nurseries preschools so that you know
nurseries preschools so that you know
nurseries preschools so that you know they would be very sure that there would
they would be very sure that there would
they would be very sure that there would be a plan that would be a backup and so
be a plan that would be a backup and so
be a plan that would be a backup and so by the time of all
by the time of all
by the time of all is after some holiday there kids would
is after some holiday there kids would
is after some holiday there kids would go to school and as a result of that is
go to school and as a result of that is
go to school and as a result of that is create a very interesting situation
create a very interesting situation
create a very interesting situation because every parent would apply for
because every parent would apply for
because every parent would apply for something like 12 schools so originally
something like 12 schools so originally
something like 12 schools so originally probably there would be enough positions
probably there would be enough positions
probably there would be enough positions for accommodating the kids but because
for accommodating the kids but because
for accommodating the kids but because everyone is holding 12 so there will be
everyone is holding 12 so there will be
everyone is holding 12 so there will be a shortage and because of shortage
a shortage and because of shortage
a shortage and because of shortage people get nervous and the more nervous
people get nervous and the more nervous
people get nervous and the more nervous you are you apply for more so people
you are you apply for more so people
you are you apply for more so people starting from 12 14 16 and so on of
starting from 12 14 16 and so on of
starting from 12 14 16 and so on of course you will ask the parents that why
course you will ask the parents that why
course you will ask the parents that why don’t ever you need to do that and then
don’t ever you need to do that and then
don’t ever you need to do that and then they start cooking up new narratives is
they start cooking up new narratives is
they start cooking up new narratives is not just about backup it’s actually
not just about backup it’s actually
not just about backup it’s actually quite a good training for kids learning
quite a good training for kids learning
quite a good training for kids learning how to go through interviews so the
how to go through interviews so the
how to go through interviews so the first eight is just for warming up from
first eight is just for warming up from
first eight is just for warming up from 9 to 12 these are the serious stuff and
9 to 12 these are the serious stuff and
9 to 12 these are the serious stuff and for the 13 through 16
for the 13 through 16
for the 13 through 16 it’s just cooling down so it’s like very
it’s just cooling down so it’s like very
it’s just cooling down so it’s like very much like sports so as a result of that
much like sports so as a result of that
much like sports so as a result of that people get a lot more nervous because
people get a lot more nervous because
people get a lot more nervous because everyone is holding 16 of option and in
everyone is holding 16 of option and in
everyone is holding 16 of option and in only 3 days before the beginning of the
only 3 days before the beginning of the
only 3 days before the beginning of the semester they were said ok I’m not
semester they were said ok I’m not
semester they were said ok I’m not coming so people get nervous and the
coming so people get nervous and the
coming so people get nervous and the more nervous you are you start
more nervous you are you start
more nervous you are you start perceiving entrance into nursery
perceiving entrance into nursery
perceiving entrance into nursery preschools in a different way because
preschools in a different way because
preschools in a different way because you think that this is a competition and
you think that this is a competition and
you think that this is a competition and it is a competition that you need to win
it is a competition that you need to win
it is a competition that you need to win as a result of that they start
as a result of that they start
as a result of that they start preparation and schools also started to
preparation and schools also started to
preparation and schools also started to organise interviews interviewing a kid
organise interviews interviewing a kid
organise interviews interviewing a kid about to enter school at the age of two
about to enter school at the age of two
about to enter school at the age of two so at the time of interview he or she
so at the time of interview he or she
so at the time of interview he or she would be around well 18 months 20 months
would be around well 18 months 20 months
would be around well 18 months 20 months barely able to walk to us the desk and
barely able to walk to us the desk and
barely able to walk to us the desk and be interviewed I never quite sure about
be interviewed I never quite sure about
be interviewed I never quite sure about the contents of the interview but I know
the contents of the interview but I know
the contents of the interview but I know from knowing from some of my response
from knowing from some of my response
from knowing from some of my response and saying that you know that would be
and saying that you know that would be
and saying that you know that would be questions about names of parents address
questions about names of parents address
questions about names of parents address how do you come to this place and so on
how do you come to this place and so on
how do you come to this place and so on and so forth
and so forth
and so forth but this would be easy nowadays
but this would be easy nowadays
but this would be easy nowadays increasingly you have more and more
increasingly you have more and more
increasingly you have more and more sophisticated interviews
sophisticated interviews
sophisticated interviews including I’ve seen a case where there
including I’ve seen a case where there
including I’ve seen a case where there will be teachers in another classroom to
will be teachers in another classroom to
will be teachers in another classroom to give instructions in English so that
give instructions in English so that
give instructions in English so that they make sure that the kids know how to
they make sure that the kids know how to
they make sure that the kids know how to respond like you need to jump three
respond like you need to jump three
respond like you need to jump three times and then there will be a principal
times and then there will be a principal
times and then there will be a principal observing what is happening there and
observing what is happening there and
observing what is happening there and then there will be a second session of
then there will be a second session of
then there will be a second session of interview to make sure that you know you
interview to make sure that you know you
interview to make sure that you know you know how to respond to further
know how to respond to further
know how to respond to further questioning so as a result of that
questioning so as a result of that
questioning so as a result of that people get nervous and also you started
people get nervous and also you started
people get nervous and also you started to have new business of preparing
to have new business of preparing
to have new business of preparing one-year-old kids for future interview
one-year-old kids for future interview
one-year-old kids for future interview before the age of two this is the
before the age of two this is the
before the age of two this is the beginning of the process but mind you
beginning of the process but mind you
beginning of the process but mind you this is barely the beginning for most of
this is barely the beginning for most of
this is barely the beginning for most of our children they need to go through
our children they need to go through
our children they need to go through something like fifteen twenty two years
something like fifteen twenty two years
something like fifteen twenty two years of all this kind of competition
of all this kind of competition
of all this kind of competition throughout their education career and
throughout their education career and
throughout their education career and the interesting part of it is that once
the interesting part of it is that once
the interesting part of it is that once you start to be competitive at the age
you start to be competitive at the age
you start to be competitive at the age of two then you start worrying about
of two then you start worrying about
of two then you start worrying about entrance to kindergarten you becoming
entrance to kindergarten you becoming
entrance to kindergarten you becoming more wearing about entrance in the
more wearing about entrance in the
more wearing about entrance in the primary school and the big challenge
primary school and the big challenge
primary school and the big challenge will be getting in the secondary school
will be getting in the secondary school
will be getting in the secondary school and then university and then
and then university and then
and then university and then postgraduate studies so first of all the
postgraduate studies so first of all the
postgraduate studies so first of all the pressure is never-ending and society is
pressure is never-ending and society is
pressure is never-ending and society is growing and more interesting is despite
growing and more interesting is despite
growing and more interesting is despite the government telling you that you know
the government telling you that you know
the government telling you that you know education and including higher education
education and including higher education
education and including higher education is going to becoming more and more
is going to becoming more and more
is going to becoming more and more popular inaccessible quota has been
popular inaccessible quota has been
popular inaccessible quota has been expanded so you should come down but
expanded so you should come down but
expanded so you should come down but this come to the first point I want to
this come to the first point I want to
this come to the first point I want to make this is the first irony that I
make this is the first irony that I
make this is the first irony that I would like to state here is despite the
would like to state here is despite the
would like to state here is despite the fact of the popularization of higher
fact of the popularization of higher
fact of the popularization of higher education pressure on education
education pressure on education
education pressure on education competition has not been reduced in fact
competition has not been reduced in fact
competition has not been reduced in fact because of the popularization of higher
because of the popularization of higher
because of the popularization of higher education this creates another most
education this creates another most
education this creates another most intriguing situation more and more
intriguing situation more and more
intriguing situation more and more parents things that you know getting a
parents things that you know getting a
parents things that you know getting a universe
universe
universe the degree is not enough you need more
the degree is not enough you need more
the degree is not enough you need more and in the context of Hong Kong this is
and in the context of Hong Kong this is
and in the context of Hong Kong this is becoming even more challenging because
becoming even more challenging because
becoming even more challenging because our economy have shift from a more
our economy have shift from a more
our economy have shift from a more diversified economy with manufacturing
diversified economy with manufacturing
diversified economy with manufacturing and other economic activities towards
and other economic activities towards
and other economic activities towards highly concentrating on surfaces and for
highly concentrating on surfaces and for
highly concentrating on surfaces and for high finance for business service you
high finance for business service you
high finance for business service you require credentials in order to enter
require credentials in order to enter
require credentials in order to enter the job market so for a lot of parents
the job market so for a lot of parents
the job market so for a lot of parents they became very nervous because how to
they became very nervous because how to
they became very nervous because how to prepare my children to have all this
prepare my children to have all this
prepare my children to have all this qualification to be qualified for what
qualification to be qualified for what
qualification to be qualified for what they call these and jobs this will be
they call these and jobs this will be
they call these and jobs this will be important so to get a university that’s
important so to get a university that’s
important so to get a university that’s become something basic and more
become something basic and more
become something basic and more interestingly is that you know education
interestingly is that you know education
interestingly is that you know education qualification is something what I call
qualification is something what I call
qualification is something what I call positional goods by this I mean these
positional goods by this I mean these
positional goods by this I mean these are the kinds of goods that not
are the kinds of goods that not
are the kinds of goods that not depending on his own quality it depends
depending on his own quality it depends
depending on his own quality it depends on the consumption of the same good by
on the consumption of the same good by
on the consumption of the same good by other people meaning that if you have an
other people meaning that if you have an
other people meaning that if you have an undergraduate degree by itself of course
undergraduate degree by itself of course
undergraduate degree by itself of course it’s okay but once you find from your
it’s okay but once you find from your
it’s okay but once you find from your peers that they all have ma ma even PhD
peers that they all have ma ma even PhD
peers that they all have ma ma even PhD then you start to worry you start to
then you start to worry you start to
then you start to worry you start to think that you know probably you have
think that you know probably you have
think that you know probably you have not enough so it’s relative and it’s
not enough so it’s relative and it’s
not enough so it’s relative and it’s also positional because you keep on
also positional because you keep on
also positional because you keep on comparing with other people and so as a
comparing with other people and so as a
comparing with other people and so as a result of popularization of higher
result of popularization of higher
result of popularization of higher education it actually creates a very
education it actually creates a very
education it actually creates a very interesting situation where increasingly
interesting situation where increasingly
interesting situation where increasingly we think is not enough to have a
we think is not enough to have a
we think is not enough to have a university degree in fact we need to
university degree in fact we need to
university degree in fact we need to have a degree from a prestigious
have a degree from a prestigious
have a degree from a prestigious university or from a prestigious program
university or from a prestigious program
university or from a prestigious program those most difficult to enter would be
those most difficult to enter would be
those most difficult to enter would be better so as a result most of the
better so as a result most of the
better so as a result most of the parents will start thinking that you
parents will start thinking that you
parents will start thinking that you know not only did I need to prepare my
know not only did I need to prepare my
know not only did I need to prepare my children to get into university in fact
children to get into university in fact
children to get into university in fact I want them to enter only certain
I want them to enter only certain
I want them to enter only certain universities so I need to prepare them
universities so I need to prepare them
universities so I need to prepare them for that so this is irony to saying that
for that so this is irony to saying that
for that so this is irony to saying that you know the popularization of higher
you know the popularization of higher
you know the popularization of higher education not only have not read
education not only have not read
education not only have not read use pressure on education competition in
use pressure on education competition in
use pressure on education competition in fact intensified it it makes people even
fact intensified it it makes people even
fact intensified it it makes people even more nervous because you never get
more nervous because you never get
more nervous because you never get enough you always look across the
enough you always look across the
enough you always look across the shoulder and find out what other people
shoulder and find out what other people
shoulder and find out what other people have and make sure that you know you are
have and make sure that you know you are
have and make sure that you know you are ahead of them so pressure intensified
ahead of them so pressure intensified
ahead of them so pressure intensified competition is becoming more competitive
competition is becoming more competitive
competition is becoming more competitive well but in many other countries in many
well but in many other countries in many
well but in many other countries in many other places the intensification the
other places the intensification the
other places the intensification the competition probably would be just
competition probably would be just
competition probably would be just adding there you think that okay I work
adding there you think that okay I work
adding there you think that okay I work hard I study hard I try to do my best in
hard I study hard I try to do my best in
hard I study hard I try to do my best in the public examination and then I would
the public examination and then I would
the public examination and then I would get to the university that I desired
get to the university that I desired
get to the university that I desired that would be alright
that would be alright
that would be alright but in Hong Kong we have a very strange
but in Hong Kong we have a very strange
but in Hong Kong we have a very strange situation this is a society putting a
situation this is a society putting a
situation this is a society putting a lot of emphasis on achievement and in a
lot of emphasis on achievement and in a
lot of emphasis on achievement and in a way I would say that you know most of us
way I would say that you know most of us
way I would say that you know most of us are very motivated however being hyper
are very motivated however being hyper
are very motivated however being hyper little motivated hyper Li
little motivated hyper Li
little motivated hyper Li achievement-oriented again bring us into
achievement-oriented again bring us into
achievement-oriented again bring us into a very strange position increasingly
a very strange position increasingly
a very strange position increasingly parents think that not only I need to
parents think that not only I need to
parents think that not only I need to start early at the age of two and in
start early at the age of two and in
start early at the age of two and in fact in the process of entering primary
fact in the process of entering primary
fact in the process of entering primary school secondary school I need them need
school secondary school I need them need
school secondary school I need them need to prepare them for the best so what
to prepare them for the best so what
to prepare them for the best so what should I do
should I do
should I do I should ensure that you know they would
I should ensure that you know they would
I should ensure that you know they would be able to distinguish themselves from
be able to distinguish themselves from
be able to distinguish themselves from the others I should ensure that they
the others I should ensure that they
the others I should ensure that they would have the kind of quality to send
would have the kind of quality to send
would have the kind of quality to send out signals to the teachers to the
out signals to the teachers to the
out signals to the teachers to the school system for people who are
school system for people who are
school system for people who are assessing entrance to university knowing
assessing entrance to university knowing
assessing entrance to university knowing that my children are the best so what
that my children are the best so what
that my children are the best so what should you do ok you start thinking
should you do ok you start thinking
should you do ok you start thinking about doing a little extras on top of
about doing a little extras on top of
about doing a little extras on top of curriculum on top of schooling on top of
curriculum on top of schooling on top of
curriculum on top of schooling on top of which school you go to
which school you go to
which school you go to you think probably we need more let’s
you think probably we need more let’s
you think probably we need more let’s start with sports so in the old days
start with sports so in the old days
start with sports so in the old days when I was a secondary school student
when I was a secondary school student
when I was a secondary school student it’s perfectly okay for you just focus
it’s perfectly okay for you just focus
it’s perfectly okay for you just focus on soccer
on soccer
on soccer and I can’t even play basketball quite
and I can’t even play basketball quite
and I can’t even play basketball quite honestly but being a member of the
honestly but being a member of the
honestly but being a member of the school team of the soccer team in the
school team of the soccer team in the
school team of the soccer team in the old days in the 1970s that’s very decent
old days in the 1970s that’s very decent
old days in the 1970s that’s very decent very respectable your classmates love
very respectable your classmates love
very respectable your classmates love you good enough nowadays if you tell
you good enough nowadays if you tell
you good enough nowadays if you tell people that you know I happen to be a
people that you know I happen to be a
people that you know I happen to be a member of the school team for soccer
member of the school team for soccer
member of the school team for soccer then people were expected to say and
then people were expected to say and
then people were expected to say and then and and then you would say that
then and and then you would say that
then and and then you would say that okay I need some other things as well
okay I need some other things as well
okay I need some other things as well but basically soccer player don’t swim
but basically soccer player don’t swim
but basically soccer player don’t swim so what do you expect from me
so what do you expect from me
so what do you expect from me okay then you start saying okay why not
okay then you start saying okay why not
okay then you start saying okay why not other things like music okay then we
other things like music okay then we
other things like music okay then we start musical instrument in Hong Kong we
start musical instrument in Hong Kong we
start musical instrument in Hong Kong we know that you know in terms of the
know that you know in terms of the
know that you know in terms of the examination of your you know performance
examination of your you know performance
examination of your you know performance in musical instruments you have
in musical instruments you have
in musical instruments you have different layers of certificates and
different layers of certificates and
different layers of certificates and most of us would do very well in those
most of us would do very well in those
most of us would do very well in those kinds of examination and so as a result
kinds of examination and so as a result
kinds of examination and so as a result more and more of us start learning to
more and more of us start learning to
more and more of us start learning to play musical instruments and as a result
play musical instruments and as a result
play musical instruments and as a result of that nowadays some of the secondary
of that nowadays some of the secondary
of that nowadays some of the secondary schools would say that all students
schools would say that all students
schools would say that all students would be required to learn how to play
would be required to learn how to play
would be required to learn how to play one musical instrument but in that
one musical instrument but in that
one musical instrument but in that notice to parents they have a bracket
notice to parents they have a bracket
notice to parents they have a bracket piano would not be counted
piano would not be counted
piano would not be counted so if piano is not a musical instrument
so if piano is not a musical instrument
so if piano is not a musical instrument what do you mean by that
what do you mean by that
what do you mean by that well that’s a matter because it’s saying
well that’s a matter because it’s saying
well that’s a matter because it’s saying that you know just knowing to play one
that you know just knowing to play one
that you know just knowing to play one piece of musical instrument this would
piece of musical instrument this would
piece of musical instrument this would not be good enough so we have a
not be good enough so we have a
not be good enough so we have a proliferation of all these extras
proliferation of all these extras
proliferation of all these extras nowadays musical instrument that’s
nowadays musical instrument that’s
nowadays musical instrument that’s ordinary soccer well below ordinary you
ordinary soccer well below ordinary you
ordinary soccer well below ordinary you need non-local learning experience you
need non-local learning experience you
need non-local learning experience you need summer school you need internship
need summer school you need internship
need summer school you need internship you need this you need that and so on
you need this you need that and so on
you need this you need that and so on and so forth so as a result it’s a
and so forth so as a result it’s a
and so forth so as a result it’s a proliferation of all kinds of activities
proliferation of all kinds of activities
proliferation of all kinds of activities and some of them of course are very
and some of them of course are very
and some of them of course are very useful some of them I’m not so sure the
useful some of them I’m not so sure the
useful some of them I’m not so sure the other day I was observing a school that
other day I was observing a school that
other day I was observing a school that teach children to do those do those all
teach children to do those do those all
teach children to do those do those all all calculations in their own minds very
all calculations in their own minds very
all calculations in their own minds very very quickly and of course all the kids
very quickly and of course all the kids
very quickly and of course all the kids perform very well but then
perform very well but then
perform very well but then then you know we have calculators
then you know we have calculators
then you know we have calculators nowadays and it’s very cheap so why do
nowadays and it’s very cheap so why do
nowadays and it’s very cheap so why do we need to do that do we need to do that
we need to do that do we need to do that
we need to do that do we need to do that anymore well doesn’t matter because it’s
anymore well doesn’t matter because it’s
anymore well doesn’t matter because it’s again something extra so in the context
again something extra so in the context
again something extra so in the context of Hong Kong we come to a very strange
of Hong Kong we come to a very strange
of Hong Kong we come to a very strange situation the very fact that we are very
situation the very fact that we are very
situation the very fact that we are very motivated we are very much in
motivated we are very much in
motivated we are very much in achievement oriented it pushes us toward
achievement oriented it pushes us toward
achievement oriented it pushes us toward a situation where we keep on doing the
a situation where we keep on doing the
a situation where we keep on doing the extras even though that we know that is
extras even though that we know that is
extras even though that we know that is doesn’t serve a purpose it is non
doesn’t serve a purpose it is non
doesn’t serve a purpose it is non educational it is becoming too much but
educational it is becoming too much but
educational it is becoming too much but it’s unstoppable this is the iron iron
it’s unstoppable this is the iron iron
it’s unstoppable this is the iron iron III that I want to make saying that you
III that I want to make saying that you
III that I want to make saying that you know this is not only a situation where
know this is not only a situation where
know this is not only a situation where we keep on comparing ourselves with the
we keep on comparing ourselves with the
we keep on comparing ourselves with the others in fact because of all these
others in fact because of all these
others in fact because of all these credentials are all positional we keep
credentials are all positional we keep
credentials are all positional we keep on doing it even though that we think
on doing it even though that we think
on doing it even though that we think that you know this is not a way to do it
that you know this is not a way to do it
that you know this is not a way to do it but we will keep on doing it because we
but we will keep on doing it because we
but we will keep on doing it because we need to stay ahead of competition so we
need to stay ahead of competition so we
need to stay ahead of competition so we end up in a situation where the whole
end up in a situation where the whole
end up in a situation where the whole competition is unstoppable
competition is unstoppable
competition is unstoppable even though that you know this is not a
even though that you know this is not a
even though that you know this is not a way that I should push my children but
way that I should push my children but
way that I should push my children but when I look across the shoulder and I
when I look across the shoulder and I
when I look across the shoulder and I find out what the other parents are
find out what the other parents are
find out what the other parents are doing
doing
doing I will ask my child to do this and that
I will ask my child to do this and that
I will ask my child to do this and that and in fact on top of this I have a
and in fact on top of this I have a
and in fact on top of this I have a taller list of things that you need to
taller list of things that you need to
taller list of things that you need to do is it a good idea no can this be
do is it a good idea no can this be
do is it a good idea no can this be changed probably the title of our theme
changed probably the title of our theme
changed probably the title of our theme today is about going beyond the status
today is about going beyond the status
today is about going beyond the status code what I do think Hong Kong people
code what I do think Hong Kong people
code what I do think Hong Kong people need to do is sit back think and going
need to do is sit back think and going
need to do is sit back think and going back to the basics and we think about
back to the basics and we think about
back to the basics and we think about something very simple what is the
something very simple what is the
something very simple what is the purpose of Education thank you very much
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