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How Education is Killing our Emotions | Don Ryujin | TEDxCalPoly


I’m going off script here but I can tell

I’m going off script here but I can tell some of my students thank you very much

some of my students thank you very much

some of my students thank you very much for coming this evening I appreciate it

for coming this evening I appreciate it

for coming this evening I appreciate it unlike the other Ted speakers for this

unlike the other Ted speakers for this

unlike the other Ted speakers for this evening I’m actually going to talk about

evening I’m actually going to talk about

evening I’m actually going to talk about something I know almost nothing about

something I know almost nothing about

something I know almost nothing about and that’s emotions I’m gonna talk about

and that’s emotions I’m gonna talk about

and that’s emotions I’m gonna talk about emotions now I know I feel them every

emotions now I know I feel them every

emotions now I know I feel them every day just like you do but just because I

day just like you do but just because I

day just like you do but just because I feel them doesn’t mean I really

feel them doesn’t mean I really

feel them doesn’t mean I really understand them or have any

understand them or have any

understand them or have any comprehension of what’s going on and

comprehension of what’s going on and

comprehension of what’s going on and that may apply to some of you too but to

that may apply to some of you too but to

that may apply to some of you too but to get off on to the topic I’d like to give

get off on to the topic I’d like to give

get off on to the topic I’d like to give you a little story that talks about

you a little story that talks about

you a little story that talks about emotions

emotions

emotions I remember this event many many years

I remember this event many many years

I remember this event many many years ago I was well many many I should say

ago I was well many many I should say

ago I was well many many I should say many many many many years ago when I was

many many many many years ago when I was

many many many many years ago when I was five years old and getting ready to

five years old and getting ready to

five years old and getting ready to attend kindergarten I’m third generation

attend kindergarten I’m third generation

attend kindergarten I’m third generation Asian American but I did not speak

Asian American but I did not speak

Asian American but I did not speak English at the time to make things a

English at the time to make things a

English at the time to make things a little worse I was the only Asian

little worse I was the only Asian

little worse I was the only Asian American in kindergarten and if that

American in kindergarten and if that

American in kindergarten and if that wasn’t bad enough I was the only Asian

wasn’t bad enough I was the only Asian

wasn’t bad enough I was the only Asian American in the entire elementary school

American in the entire elementary school

American in the entire elementary school but if that wasn’t enough

but if that wasn’t enough

but if that wasn’t enough I had this funny-looking canvas hat on

I had this funny-looking canvas hat on

I had this funny-looking canvas hat on my head in strips that had you like

my head in strips that had you like

my head in strips that had you like elastic bands just coming down the side

elastic bands just coming down the side

elastic bands just coming down the side holding a plastic cup onto my chin to

holding a plastic cup onto my chin to

holding a plastic cup onto my chin to compensate for a bad bite so there I was

compensate for a bad bite so there I was

compensate for a bad bite so there I was standing there naturally some of the

standing there naturally some of the

standing there naturally some of the students well most of the students were

students well most of the students were

students well most of the students were staring at me right and then there were

staring at me right and then there were

staring at me right and then there were a few who started to and then there were

a few who started to and then there were

a few who started to and then there were some whisper to each other about and

some whisper to each other about and

some whisper to each other about and then there was this one rude child hmm

then there was this one rude child hmm

then there was this one rude child hmm said something really loud which

said something really loud which

said something really loud which fortunately I didn’t understand what he

fortunately I didn’t understand what he

fortunately I didn’t understand what he was saying but I have to tell you that

was saying but I have to tell you that

was saying but I have to tell you that moment that moment is cemented in my

moment that moment is cemented in my

moment that moment is cemented in my brain because I was so scared I was

brain because I was so scared I was

brain because I was so scared I was terrified I was nauseous I wanted to

terrified I was nauseous I wanted to

terrified I was nauseous I wanted to scream I felt like crying I felt like an

scream I felt like crying I felt like an

scream I felt like crying I felt like an outsider I didn’t know what to do I

outsider I didn’t know what to do I

outsider I didn’t know what to do I wanted to just run out of the room

wanted to just run out of the room

wanted to just run out of the room crying and screaming at the top of my

crying and screaming at the top of my

crying and screaming at the top of my lungs but it was very fortunate for me

lungs but it was very fortunate for me

lungs but it was very fortunate for me that the teacher mrs. Lopez managed to

that the teacher mrs. Lopez managed to

that the teacher mrs. Lopez managed to quiet the other children take me aside

quiet the other children take me aside

quiet the other children take me aside comfort me and help me make it through

comfort me and help me make it through

comfort me and help me make it through the year now we all have memories like

the year now we all have memories like

the year now we all have memories like that you know they could be positive

that you know they could be positive

that you know they could be positive they could be negative that could be

they could be negative that could be

they could be negative that could be horrific memories but we’ve all had them

horrific memories but we’ve all had them

horrific memories but we’ve all had them I’m sure most of the students in this

I’m sure most of the students in this

I’m sure most of the students in this class can kind of remember the first day

class can kind of remember the first day

class can kind of remember the first day when they opened up that envelope that

when they opened up that envelope that

when they opened up that envelope that told them that they had gotten accepted

told them that they had gotten accepted

told them that they had gotten accepted to the College of their choice or maybe

to the College of their choice or maybe

to the College of their choice or maybe they were rejected by the College of

they were rejected by the College of

they were rejected by the College of their choice

their choice

their choice they’re probably parents in this room

they’re probably parents in this room

they’re probably parents in this room who can remember when they first saw the

who can remember when they first saw the

who can remember when they first saw the face of their baby child who is here

face of their baby child who is here

face of their baby child who is here today all of us can probably remember

today all of us can probably remember

today all of us can probably remember the death of a close relative or a

the death of a close relative or a

the death of a close relative or a friend now all of these things are

friend now all of these things are

friend now all of these things are memorable because they are emotional and

memorable because they are emotional and

memorable because they are emotional and in fact psychologists know that emotions

in fact psychologists know that emotions

in fact psychologists know that emotions help you in terms of your memory they’re

help you in terms of your memory they’re

help you in terms of your memory they’re more vivid they’re more memorable and

more vivid they’re more memorable and

more vivid they’re more memorable and they stay with you however these things

they stay with you however these things

they stay with you however these things are not only memorable they help to

are not only memorable they help to

are not only memorable they help to define your life I would like you to try

define your life I would like you to try

define your life I would like you to try to imagine a life where there isn’t any

to imagine a life where there isn’t any

to imagine a life where there isn’t any emotion a marriage without happiness

emotion a marriage without happiness

emotion a marriage without happiness death without sorrow romance without

death without sorrow romance without

death without sorrow romance without love having a job pursuing a career or

love having a job pursuing a career or

love having a job pursuing a career or picking a major for which you feel no

picking a major for which you feel no

picking a major for which you feel no passion or enjoyment our life is defined

passion or enjoyment our life is defined

passion or enjoyment our life is defined by the emotions that we feel if you have

by the emotions that we feel if you have

by the emotions that we feel if you have no emotions there are no memories not

no emotions there are no memories not

no emotions there are no memories not only that emotions as we know now help

only that emotions as we know now help

only that emotions as we know now help individuals to make better personal

individuals to make better personal

individuals to make better personal decisions how is it that you decided to

decisions how is it that you decided to

decisions how is it that you decided to come to Cal Poly the parents how is it

come to Cal Poly the parents how is it

come to Cal Poly the parents how is it that you decided to marry your

that you decided to marry your

that you decided to marry your particular spouse students how is it

particular spouse students how is it

particular spouse students how is it that you chose to be

that you chose to be

that you chose to be in a particular major we know that if

in a particular major we know that if

in a particular major we know that if you can’t feel emotions you cannot make

you can’t feel emotions you cannot make

you can’t feel emotions you cannot make decisions as a result emotions not only

decisions as a result emotions not only

decisions as a result emotions not only define your life but they help to direct

define your life but they help to direct

define your life but they help to direct it and to understand them so that you

it and to understand them so that you

it and to understand them so that you can take your life along meaningful

can take your life along meaningful

can take your life along meaningful pathways is something I feel is very

pathways is something I feel is very

pathways is something I feel is very very critical to the educational process

very critical to the educational process

very critical to the educational process now the feelings that I have about

now the feelings that I have about

now the feelings that I have about emotions I’ve asked myself what does

emotions I’ve asked myself what does

emotions I’ve asked myself what does society and the culture believe about

society and the culture believe about

society and the culture believe about emotions my wife for whom I feel

emotions my wife for whom I feel

emotions my wife for whom I feel emotions yay I love that woman

emotions yay I love that woman

emotions yay I love that woman she’s sitting right over there oh my god

these emotions we ignore them my wife is

these emotions we ignore them my wife is very fond of saying we live in a culture

very fond of saying we live in a culture

very fond of saying we live in a culture that likes to run away from emotions and

that likes to run away from emotions and

that likes to run away from emotions and I’ve always said at the very minimum we

I’ve always said at the very minimum we

I’ve always said at the very minimum we ignore them what we try to deny them and

ignore them what we try to deny them and

ignore them what we try to deny them and we don’t say much about them we kind of

we don’t say much about them we kind of

we don’t say much about them we kind of hide them out we don’t ever talk about

hide them out we don’t ever talk about

hide them out we don’t ever talk about them much but we should and I felt then

them much but we should and I felt then

them much but we should and I felt then that our higher that our institutions of

that our higher that our institutions of

that our higher that our institutions of higher education also ignore him

higher education also ignore him

higher education also ignore him emotions you know I mean what’s the

emotions you know I mean what’s the

emotions you know I mean what’s the emphasis on him education right now they

emphasis on him education right now they

emphasis on him education right now they call it steam or they call it stem right

call it steam or they call it stem right

call it steam or they call it stem right science technology engineering and math

science technology engineering and math

science technology engineering and math or science technology architecture and

or science technology architecture and

or science technology architecture and math it’s all to the head somehow

math it’s all to the head somehow

math it’s all to the head somehow university seem to believe that if they

university seem to believe that if they

university seem to believe that if they can feel your head that you’re

can feel your head that you’re

can feel your head that you’re well-rounded that if you can get a job

well-rounded that if you can get a job

well-rounded that if you can get a job then that’s great because you can give

then that’s great because you can give

then that’s great because you can give them more money right it’s amazing I

them more money right it’s amazing I

them more money right it’s amazing I mean I value my undergraduate education

mean I value my undergraduate education

mean I value my undergraduate education they did fill my head they helped me to

they did fill my head they helped me to

they did fill my head they helped me to get a job but they didn’t help me

get a job but they didn’t help me

get a job but they didn’t help me understand myself for my life ever and I

understand myself for my life ever and I

understand myself for my life ever and I think that we have an obligation in that

think that we have an obligation in that

think that we have an obligation in that regard I’ve always listened to the Cal

regard I’ve always listened to the Cal

regard I’ve always listened to the Cal Poly saying learn by doing and my

Poly saying learn by doing and my

Poly saying learn by doing and my question is learn by doing what what are

question is learn by doing what what are

question is learn by doing what what are you gonna do

I mean I want to change that a little

I mean I want to change that a little bit like learn by doing something okay

bit like learn by doing something okay

bit like learn by doing something okay and feeling but I know what I want you

and feeling but I know what I want you

and feeling but I know what I want you to feel your emotions but this isn’t

to feel your emotions but this isn’t

to feel your emotions but this isn’t what the university ever seems to

what the university ever seems to

what the university ever seems to emphasize I was at a meeting and the

emphasize I was at a meeting and the

emphasize I was at a meeting and the first topic very important what

first topic very important what

first topic very important what percentage of our students are

percentage of our students are

percentage of our students are graduating in four years am i what

graduating in four years am i what

graduating in four years am i what that’s gonna take up this meeting and

that’s gonna take up this meeting and

that’s gonna take up this meeting and the idea of course is to take these

the idea of course is to take these

the idea of course is to take these stressed students and stress them even

stressed students and stress them even

stressed students and stress them even more so we can get more of them out in

more so we can get more of them out in

more so we can get more of them out in four years and then they ask questions

four years and then they ask questions

four years and then they ask questions like well how many of our students are

like well how many of our students are

like well how many of our students are going to graduate school nobody asked

going to graduate school nobody asked

going to graduate school nobody asked how many our students are happy no how

how many our students are happy no how

how many our students are happy no how many are going to graduate school

many are going to graduate school

many are going to graduate school we need more right how many got a job

we need more right how many got a job

we need more right how many got a job the first year after graduation what is

the first year after graduation what is

the first year after graduation what is the median grade point average of

the median grade point average of

the median grade point average of students at Cal Poly my own institution

students at Cal Poly my own institution

students at Cal Poly my own institution writes me on emails and letters and says

writes me on emails and letters and says

writes me on emails and letters and says for the alumni magazine please tell us

for the alumni magazine please tell us

for the alumni magazine please tell us what you’re doing and I huh what what do

what you’re doing and I huh what what do

what you’re doing and I huh what what do you mean what I’m doing don’t you want

you mean what I’m doing don’t you want

you mean what I’m doing don’t you want to know how I feel about how I’m doing

to know how I feel about how I’m doing

to know how I feel about how I’m doing like my job is really terrible right I’m

like my job is really terrible right I’m

like my job is really terrible right I’m depressed

I can’t relate to my kids my cat doesn’t

I can’t relate to my kids my cat doesn’t like me but I love my wife

what is more important you know a

what is more important you know a quarter of all college students are

quarter of all college students are

quarter of all college students are depressed at any given moment in time

depressed at any given moment in time

depressed at any given moment in time suicide is the second biggest killer of

suicide is the second biggest killer of

suicide is the second biggest killer of college students after automobile

college students after automobile

college students after automobile accidents you heard from Nicole the data

accidents you heard from Nicole the data

accidents you heard from Nicole the data on sexual assault in colleges almost a

on sexual assault in colleges almost a

on sexual assault in colleges almost a quarter of the females will experience

quarter of the females will experience

quarter of the females will experience sexual assault or rape and yet we are

sexual assault or rape and yet we are

sexual assault or rape and yet we are asking what are you doing what what

asking what are you doing what what

asking what are you doing what what percentage are graduating in four years

percentage are graduating in four years

percentage are graduating in four years [Music]

[Music]

[Music] higher education seems to think that if

higher education seems to think that if

higher education seems to think that if you feel the head and make one smarter

you feel the head and make one smarter

you feel the head and make one smarter and they get a job that’s all they need

and they get a job that’s all they need

and they get a job that’s all they need to do then you don’t care if you’re

to do then you don’t care if you’re

to do then you don’t care if you’re upset with your job they don’t care if

upset with your job they don’t care if

upset with your job they don’t care if your life is miserable all they want to

your life is miserable all they want to

your life is miserable all they want to know is what kind of job you have how

know is what kind of job you have how

know is what kind of job you have how many people in your family how much

many people in your family how much

many people in your family how much money are you making and how much

money are you making and how much

money are you making and how much prestige does your job reflect upon the

prestige does your job reflect upon the

prestige does your job reflect upon the university itself we need to do

university itself we need to do

university itself we need to do something to educate our students who

something to educate our students who

something to educate our students who are suffering who can’t decide what

are suffering who can’t decide what

are suffering who can’t decide what their major is whose relationships as a

their major is whose relationships as a

their major is whose relationships as a social psychologist I know is falling

social psychologist I know is falling

social psychologist I know is falling apart

apart

apart so what well my first thought is that we

so what well my first thought is that we

so what well my first thought is that we should have a GE requirement that all

should have a GE requirement that all

should have a GE requirement that all students take a minimum of one course if

students take a minimum of one course if

students take a minimum of one course if not a cluster of courses dealing with

not a cluster of courses dealing with

not a cluster of courses dealing with emotions

emotions

emotions now the culture doesn’t want to do that

now the culture doesn’t want to do that

now the culture doesn’t want to do that kind of stuff

kind of stuff

kind of stuff but if you see the students themselves

but if you see the students themselves

but if you see the students themselves if you read their letters if you hear

if you read their letters if you hear

if you read their letters if you hear them on the phone read their texts and

them on the phone read their texts and

them on the phone read their texts and emails they need it and it would help

emails they need it and it would help

emails they need it and it would help them

them

them it would help them to understand

it would help them to understand

it would help them to understand themselves and it would help them to

themselves and it would help them to

themselves and it would help them to understand others so that they could

understand others so that they could

understand others so that they could create a more meaningful life with

create a more meaningful life with

create a more meaningful life with whatever occupation they choose or

whatever occupation they choose or

whatever occupation they choose or whatever major they choose that we could

whatever major they choose that we could

whatever major they choose that we could send them out there with some stability

send them out there with some stability

send them out there with some stability and that’s why I don’t think it’s so

and that’s why I don’t think it’s so

and that’s why I don’t think it’s so foolish to teach a class about love and

foolish to teach a class about love and

foolish to teach a class about love and about romance because aren’t those the

about romance because aren’t those the

about romance because aren’t those the most one of the most important factors

most one of the most important factors

most one of the most important factors that affect their lives now and in the

that affect their lives now and in the

that affect their lives now and in the future wouldn’t it be great to have a

future wouldn’t it be great to have a

future wouldn’t it be great to have a course where students could examine

course where students could examine

course where students could examine their own emotions and start to come to

their own emotions and start to come to

their own emotions and start to come to an understanding of who they are so they

an understanding of who they are so they

an understanding of who they are so they can live their lives as themselves and

can live their lives as themselves and

can live their lives as themselves and not as the culture wants you to live it

not as the culture wants you to live it

not as the culture wants you to live it I feel is very important for education

I feel is very important for education

I feel is very important for education to give support to our student in other

to give support to our student in other

to give support to our student in other ways than to fill their head too many

ways than to fill their head too many

ways than to fill their head too many institutions believe that academic and

institutions believe that academic and

institutions believe that academic and occupational fluency is enough I do not

occupational fluency is enough I do not

occupational fluency is enough I do not in Cal Poly bless the place I mean I

in Cal Poly bless the place I mean I

in Cal Poly bless the place I mean I love working here it’s still I feel

love working here it’s still I feel

love working here it’s still I feel radically deficit in this regard now the

radically deficit in this regard now the

radically deficit in this regard now the other thing I feel that can be done is

other thing I feel that can be done is

other thing I feel that can be done is personal I think we can start by asking

personal I think we can start by asking

personal I think we can start by asking a very simple question I know lots of

a very simple question I know lots of

a very simple question I know lots of people go around you know students do it

people go around you know students do it

people go around you know students do it I do it I see with colleagues I said

I do it I see with colleagues I said

I do it I see with colleagues I said well how is it going how are you doing

well how is it going how are you doing

well how is it going how are you doing right and then they tell you how it’s

right and then they tell you how it’s

right and then they tell you how it’s going and what they’re doing but I think

going and what they’re doing but I think

going and what they’re doing but I think you should listen to that and then I

you should listen to that and then I

you should listen to that and then I think a very simple thing you should ask

think a very simple thing you should ask

think a very simple thing you should ask them how do you feel

them how do you feel

them how do you feel about how you’re doing I’ve just been

about how you’re doing I’ve just been

about how you’re doing I’ve just been trying that and you know what it’s

trying that and you know what it’s

trying that and you know what it’s absolutely amazing I’ve had some of the

absolutely amazing I’ve had some of the

absolutely amazing I’ve had some of the most meaningful conversations from

most meaningful conversations from

most meaningful conversations from people who then told me how they were

people who then told me how they were

people who then told me how they were feeling about what they were doing as a

feeling about what they were doing as a

feeling about what they were doing as a result of that I said I got a better

result of that I said I got a better

result of that I said I got a better grasp of who the people were in front of

grasp of who the people were in front of

grasp of who the people were in front of me a better appreciation of it and

me a better appreciation of it and

me a better appreciation of it and lately I’ve been trying to ask myself

well how do you feel about what you’re

well how do you feel about what you’re doing and why do you feel that way been

doing and why do you feel that way been

doing and why do you feel that way been trying to get a grasp of a more

trying to get a grasp of a more

trying to get a grasp of a more meaningful life for myself in these

meaningful life for myself in these

meaningful life for myself in these later stages I think it’s important that

later stages I think it’s important that

later stages I think it’s important that one understand themselves in light of

one understand themselves in light of

one understand themselves in light of their emotions and use these emotions to

their emotions and use these emotions to

their emotions and use these emotions to direct them in ways that will lead to a

direct them in ways that will lead to a

direct them in ways that will lead to a very meaningful qualitative life that’s

very meaningful qualitative life that’s

very meaningful qualitative life that’s what I want for students I don’t want

what I want for students I don’t want

what I want for students I don’t want just a job I don’t want them just to be

just a job I don’t want them just to be

just a job I don’t want them just to be smart in the head the University says

smart in the head the University says

smart in the head the University says and believes that a well that we give a

and believes that a well that we give a

and believes that a well that we give a well-rounded education I would beg to

well-rounded education I would beg to

well-rounded education I would beg to differ because the quality of life that

differ because the quality of life that

differ because the quality of life that our students have after graduation is

our students have after graduation is

our students have after graduation is unexamined now I do feel like emotions

unexamined now I do feel like emotions

unexamined now I do feel like emotions are like the force in Star Wars you

are like the force in Star Wars you

are like the force in Star Wars you really have to feel the force you have

really have to feel the force you have

really have to feel the force you have to get in touch with the force and the

to get in touch with the force and the

to get in touch with the force and the force can then direct you in the path

force can then direct you in the path

force can then direct you in the path that you should

that you should

that you should and so I like to try to listen sometimes

and so I like to try to listen sometimes

and so I like to try to listen sometimes just stand and listen and try to feel

just stand and listen and try to feel

just stand and listen and try to feel the force because that force that

the force because that force that

the force because that force that emotion I am discovering at the late

emotion I am discovering at the late

emotion I am discovering at the late stages of my life is probably the thing

stages of my life is probably the thing

stages of my life is probably the thing that I have ignored for way too long it

that I have ignored for way too long it

that I have ignored for way too long it has defined my life unknowingly and I

has defined my life unknowingly and I

has defined my life unknowingly and I want to take it and use it so that the

want to take it and use it so that the

want to take it and use it so that the rest of my life and the directions that

rest of my life and the directions that

rest of my life and the directions that I take will lead to a life that will be

I take will lead to a life that will be

I take will lead to a life that will be meaningful and happy for me and I hope

meaningful and happy for me and I hope

meaningful and happy for me and I hope that University start to grasp this

that University start to grasp this

that University start to grasp this concept with their students suffering

concept with their students suffering

concept with their students suffering and being miserable that we don’t just

and being miserable that we don’t just

and being miserable that we don’t just talk about jobs and grade point averages

talk about jobs and grade point averages

talk about jobs and grade point averages and graduate schools but the quality of

and graduate schools but the quality of

and graduate schools but the quality of person that we are graduating so with

person that we are graduating so with

person that we are graduating so with that I would like to say I hope that for

that I would like to say I hope that for

that I would like to say I hope that for all of you may the force be with you

all of you may the force be with you

all of you may the force be with you thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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