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The Hacker Mindset | Tim Summers | TEDxRochester


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hackers I’m pretty sure that everyone

hackers I’m pretty sure that everyone here has heard something about hackers

mostly bad but I want you to forget

mostly bad but I want you to forget everything that you thought you knew

everything that you thought you knew

everything that you thought you knew about them forget everything that you

about them forget everything that you

about them forget everything that you heard in the media about them because

heard in the media about them because

heard in the media about them because we’re going to go on a little journey

we’re going to go on a little journey

we’re going to go on a little journey together protecting this country from

together protecting this country from

together protecting this country from unwanted foreign influence was an

unwanted foreign influence was an

unwanted foreign influence was an original intent of the framers of the US

original intent of the framers of the US

original intent of the framers of the US Constitution

Constitution

Constitution in fact in 1788 Alexander Hamilton

in fact in 1788 Alexander Hamilton

in fact in 1788 Alexander Hamilton acknowledged that protecting America had

acknowledged that protecting America had

acknowledged that protecting America had you know had this blade this big ocean

you know had this blade this big ocean

you know had this blade this big ocean and that there was this this this was a

and that there was this this this was a

and that there was this this this was a huge element of our security and that

huge element of our security and that

huge element of our security and that this was of utmost importance however at

this was of utmost importance however at

this was of utmost importance however at the same time he acknowledged that one

the same time he acknowledged that one

the same time he acknowledged that one day with the advancements of technology

day with the advancements of technology

day with the advancements of technology distant nations would become next-door

distant nations would become next-door

distant nations would become next-door neighbors and in no time or place is

neighbors and in no time or place is

neighbors and in no time or place is this more relevant is his wisdom more

this more relevant is his wisdom more

this more relevant is his wisdom more relevant than in the information age of

relevant than in the information age of

relevant than in the information age of today and to no population does it

today and to no population does it

today and to no population does it impact more than hackers and those

impact more than hackers and those

impact more than hackers and those impacted by hackers now you may be

impacted by hackers now you may be

impacted by hackers now you may be wondering what hackers have to do with

wondering what hackers have to do with

wondering what hackers have to do with revolutionary thinkers and the media has

revolutionary thinkers and the media has

revolutionary thinkers and the media has overwhelmed us with imagery and stories

overwhelmed us with imagery and stories

overwhelmed us with imagery and stories about cyber breaches and the black hat

about cyber breaches and the black hat

about cyber breaches and the black hat hackers behind them and this has caused

hackers behind them and this has caused

hackers behind them and this has caused us to construct mental models filled

us to construct mental models filled

us to construct mental models filled with heavy elements of criminal

with heavy elements of criminal

with heavy elements of criminal symbolism but I am here to tell you that

symbolism but I am here to tell you that

symbolism but I am here to tell you that hackers are much more than hat colors

hackers are much more than hat colors

hackers are much more than hat colors and criminals Society is incredibly

and criminals Society is incredibly

and criminals Society is incredibly confused by hackers in fact most of the

confused by hackers in fact most of the

confused by hackers in fact most of the imagery that we see of them

imagery that we see of them

imagery that we see of them includes a dark figure shrouded in a

includes a dark figure shrouded in a

includes a dark figure shrouded in a hoodie and anti-social like mr. robot

hoodie and anti-social like mr. robot

hoodie and anti-social like mr. robot kind of like this person right here and

kind of like this person right here and

kind of like this person right here and to make matters worse if you were to

to make matters worse if you were to

to make matters worse if you were to look up the definition for the word you

look up the definition for the word you

look up the definition for the word you would find strong elements of conflict

would find strong elements of conflict

would find strong elements of conflict on the one hand a hacker someone who’s

on the one hand a hacker someone who’s

on the one hand a hacker someone who’s unskilled and hacks things together on

unskilled and hacks things together on

unskilled and hacks things together on the other hand there’s someone that

the other hand there’s someone that

the other hand there’s someone that leverages their technological prowess

leverages their technological prowess

leverages their technological prowess for illegal gain with both definitions

for illegal gain with both definitions

for illegal gain with both definitions rooted in fear recently someone asked me

rooted in fear recently someone asked me

rooted in fear recently someone asked me what I did for a living and I responded

what I did for a living and I responded

what I did for a living and I responded by saying I’m a professor and a

by saying I’m a professor and a

by saying I’m a professor and a consultant and an ethical hacker this

consultant and an ethical hacker this

consultant and an ethical hacker this person looked at me with a very confused

person looked at me with a very confused

person looked at me with a very confused look and they said wait a minute

look and they said wait a minute

look and they said wait a minute how could you be a professor what

how could you be a professor what

how could you be a professor what company would pay you to do illegal

company would pay you to do illegal

company would pay you to do illegal stuff in what university in the right

stuff in what university in the right

stuff in what university in the right mind would allow you to teach students

mind would allow you to teach students

mind would allow you to teach students how to do illegal things this

how to do illegal things this

how to do illegal things this conversation went on for quite some time

conversation went on for quite some time

conversation went on for quite some time and this person just could not fathom

and this person just could not fathom

and this person just could not fathom that there were good hackers and that

that there were good hackers and that

that there were good hackers and that they would have anything worth sharing

they would have anything worth sharing

they would have anything worth sharing or teaching to others but my friends I

or teaching to others but my friends I

or teaching to others but my friends I want to share with you that hackers are

want to share with you that hackers are

want to share with you that hackers are much more important than you may have

much more important than you may have

much more important than you may have previously thought there are tons of

previously thought there are tons of

previously thought there are tons of problems in our world with regard to

problems in our world with regard to

problems in our world with regard to that require innovation and

that require innovation and

that require innovation and experimentation and this is where

experimentation and this is where

experimentation and this is where hackers excel this is precisely why I

hackers excel this is precisely why I

hackers excel this is precisely why I research hackers and how they think now

research hackers and how they think now

research hackers and how they think now that’s not the entire story I wrote my

that’s not the entire story I wrote my

that’s not the entire story I wrote my first line of code at 10 years old and

first line of code at 10 years old and

first line of code at 10 years old and I’d hacked into my first major

I’d hacked into my first major

I’d hacked into my first major corporation by my 13th birthday

I had a lot of fun but I was an

I had a lot of fun but I was an inquisitive child asked lots of

inquisitive child asked lots of

inquisitive child asked lots of questions usually there were questions

questions usually there were questions

questions usually there were questions that the adults were not ready to answer

that the adults were not ready to answer

that the adults were not ready to answer but that never stopped me from pursuing

but that never stopped me from pursuing

but that never stopped me from pursuing what I thought were the solutions to the

what I thought were the solutions to the

what I thought were the solutions to the problems that interests me we had a lot

problems that interests me we had a lot

problems that interests me we had a lot of books around the house and I

of books around the house and I

of books around the house and I specifically remember reading the basic

specifically remember reading the basic

specifically remember reading the basic physics of radiation therapy in the

physics of radiation therapy in the

physics of radiation therapy in the fourth grade I was really geeky okay

fourth grade I was really geeky okay

fourth grade I was really geeky okay don’t judge me but my willingness and

don’t judge me but my willingness and

don’t judge me but my willingness and interest in asking so many questions

interest in asking so many questions

interest in asking so many questions even when people were not ready to

even when people were not ready to

even when people were not ready to answer them or or maybe didn’t know the

answer them or or maybe didn’t know the

answer them or or maybe didn’t know the answers

answers

answers coupled with the natural proclivity for

coupled with the natural proclivity for

coupled with the natural proclivity for technology led me through various levels

technology led me through various levels

technology led me through various levels of education very life as a hacker with

of education very life as a hacker with

of education very life as a hacker with varying levels of ethics and eventually

varying levels of ethics and eventually

varying levels of ethics and eventually becoming a professor at a university and

becoming a professor at a university and

becoming a professor at a university and an owner of a consulting company who

an owner of a consulting company who

an owner of a consulting company who advises companies on Backer mindset now

advises companies on Backer mindset now

advises companies on Backer mindset now to conduct this research for me to

to conduct this research for me to

to conduct this research for me to explain that story I want to show you

explain that story I want to show you

explain that story I want to show you this photo this was a photo that I took

this photo this was a photo that I took

this photo this was a photo that I took driving across Europe because in order

driving across Europe because in order

driving across Europe because in order for me to conduct my research I traveled

for me to conduct my research I traveled

for me to conduct my research I traveled the world to meet some of the best

the world to meet some of the best

the world to meet some of the best hackers and my intent was to understand

hackers and my intent was to understand

hackers and my intent was to understand how they solve problems I met a few

how they solve problems I met a few

how they solve problems I met a few dozen of them that were considered elite

dozen of them that were considered elite

dozen of them that were considered elite by their peers and then I took what I

by their peers and then I took what I

by their peers and then I took what I learned from them and then I surveyed

learned from them and then I surveyed

learned from them and then I surveyed another couple hundred hackers but this

another couple hundred hackers but this

another couple hundred hackers but this journey was not without its personal

journey was not without its personal

journey was not without its personal challenges in fact my employer disproved

challenges in fact my employer disproved

challenges in fact my employer disproved disapproved of my research and I almost

disapproved of my research and I almost

disapproved of my research and I almost lost my job I acquired massive amounts

lost my job I acquired massive amounts

lost my job I acquired massive amounts of debt because I did everything out of

of debt because I did everything out of

of debt because I did everything out of my own pocket and I tore two disks in my

my own pocket and I tore two disks in my

my own pocket and I tore two disks in my back on one of the trips so whenever

back on one of the trips so whenever

back on one of the trips so whenever people ask me about my research I say I

people ask me about my research I say I

people ask me about my research I say I went as far as I could without losing a

went as far as I could without losing a

went as far as I could without losing a kidney but the challenge is that I went

kidney but the challenge is that I went

kidney but the challenge is that I went through or worth it because I learned

through or worth it because I learned

through or worth it because I learned that hackers are significant source of

that hackers are significant source of

that hackers are significant source of innovation our society is filled and

innovation our society is filled and

innovation our society is filled and it’s a changing landscape ever-evolving

it’s a changing landscape ever-evolving

it’s a changing landscape ever-evolving full of complex technologies and lots of

full of complex technologies and lots of

full of complex technologies and lots of poorly understood and challenging

poorly understood and challenging

poorly understood and challenging problems these are precisely the kinds

problems these are precisely the kinds

problems these are precisely the kinds of problems that hackers are a depth at

of problems that hackers are a depth at

of problems that hackers are a depth at solving the hacker ability is a mindset

solving the hacker ability is a mindset

solving the hacker ability is a mindset it’s a mindset that includes various

it’s a mindset that includes various

it’s a mindset that includes various cognitive skills and traits but hackers

cognitive skills and traits but hackers

cognitive skills and traits but hackers leveraging their abilities to solve

leveraging their abilities to solve

leveraging their abilities to solve these ambiguous problems are precisely

these ambiguous problems are precisely

these ambiguous problems are precisely why they are so important to

why they are so important to

why they are so important to world-changing innovation being a hacker

world-changing innovation being a hacker

world-changing innovation being a hacker is a mindset it’s about leveraging

is a mindset it’s about leveraging

is a mindset it’s about leveraging cognitive skills and traits like

cognitive skills and traits like

cognitive skills and traits like creativity and curiosity to understand

creativity and curiosity to understand

creativity and curiosity to understand ambiguity in their environment and then

ambiguity in their environment and then

ambiguity in their environment and then to leverage that understanding and what

to leverage that understanding and what

to leverage that understanding and what we call just-in-time learning

we call just-in-time learning

we call just-in-time learning to eliminate that ambiguity just-in-time

to eliminate that ambiguity just-in-time

to eliminate that ambiguity just-in-time learning requires dynamic shifts in

learning requires dynamic shifts in

learning requires dynamic shifts in thinking patterns and as you hear me

thinking patterns and as you hear me

thinking patterns and as you hear me talk about shifting and thinking

talk about shifting and thinking

talk about shifting and thinking patterns I’ll give you an example what

patterns I’ll give you an example what

patterns I’ll give you an example what that means if you’ve ever seen someone

that means if you’ve ever seen someone

that means if you’ve ever seen someone who speaks maybe 10 languages and they

who speaks maybe 10 languages and they

who speaks maybe 10 languages and they shift in between those languages almost

shift in between those languages almost

shift in between those languages almost seamlessly almost without thinking about

seamlessly almost without thinking about

seamlessly almost without thinking about it or people who have experienced

it or people who have experienced

it or people who have experienced multiple cultures and they shift in

multiple cultures and they shift in

multiple cultures and they shift in between those cultures in those

between those cultures in those

between those cultures in those countries and those boundaries almost

countries and those boundaries almost

countries and those boundaries almost without thinking about them this is what

without thinking about them this is what

without thinking about them this is what we referred to as shifting thinking

we referred to as shifting thinking

we referred to as shifting thinking patterns and the best hackers are able

patterns and the best hackers are able

patterns and the best hackers are able to shift thinking patterns across

to shift thinking patterns across

to shift thinking patterns across technologies across languages across

technologies across languages across

technologies across languages across systems across people understanding

systems across people understanding

systems across people understanding people and behaviors

now in the cybersecurity community we

now in the cybersecurity community we have a saying that it’s not a question

have a saying that it’s not a question

have a saying that it’s not a question of if hackers will get in it’s a

of if hackers will get in it’s a

of if hackers will get in it’s a question of wing that’s because to

question of wing that’s because to

question of wing that’s because to hackers there’s no such thing as failure

hackers there’s no such thing as failure

hackers there’s no such thing as failure everything is just a revision and

everything is just a revision and

everything is just a revision and hackers apply this mindset to all of

hackers apply this mindset to all of

hackers apply this mindset to all of their problems of interest this is

their problems of interest this is

their problems of interest this is precisely why hackers are changing the

precisely why hackers are changing the

precisely why hackers are changing the world around us we’re seeing the hacker

world around us we’re seeing the hacker

world around us we’re seeing the hacker movement take place in lots of places

movement take place in lots of places

movement take place in lots of places consider for a moment civic hacking

consider for a moment civic hacking

consider for a moment civic hacking biohacking life hacking and now even

biohacking life hacking and now even

biohacking life hacking and now even space exploration we’re seeing this all

space exploration we’re seeing this all

space exploration we’re seeing this all over the world where many different

over the world where many different

over the world where many different companies are leveraging the hacker

companies are leveraging the hacker

companies are leveraging the hacker mindset to challenge the status quo to

mindset to challenge the status quo to

mindset to challenge the status quo to ask the question what would happen if

ask the question what would happen if

ask the question what would happen if that really exists at the core of the

that really exists at the core of the

that really exists at the core of the hacker mindset and because of this we’re

hacker mindset and because of this we’re

hacker mindset and because of this we’re seeing many of our top advancements in

seeing many of our top advancements in

seeing many of our top advancements in society being created by hackers that’s

society being created by hackers that’s

society being created by hackers that’s exactly why we say that being a hacker

exactly why we say that being a hacker

exactly why we say that being a hacker is a mindset and not a technical skill

is a mindset and not a technical skill

is a mindset and not a technical skill Marie Curie Galileo Leonardo da Vinci

Marie Curie Galileo Leonardo da Vinci

Marie Curie Galileo Leonardo da Vinci Nikola Tesla and many more they were all

Nikola Tesla and many more they were all

Nikola Tesla and many more they were all hackers pushing the boundary having the

hackers pushing the boundary having the

hackers pushing the boundary having the audacity to push the boundaries further

audacity to push the boundaries further

audacity to push the boundaries further to challenge what we believed were the

to challenge what we believed were the

to challenge what we believed were the intersections of different levels of

intersections of different levels of

intersections of different levels of intellect and at the core of all of this

intellect and at the core of all of this

intellect and at the core of all of this is our relentless curiosity our playful

is our relentless curiosity our playful

is our relentless curiosity our playful exploration are adventurous creativity

exploration are adventurous creativity

exploration are adventurous creativity and this is what’s necessary for the

and this is what’s necessary for the

and this is what’s necessary for the innovation that we’re seeing today now I

innovation that we’re seeing today now I

innovation that we’re seeing today now I want you to take a good look at this

want you to take a good look at this

want you to take a good look at this photo take note of the address okay

photo take note of the address okay

photo take note of the address okay because we’re going to come back to it

because we’re going to come back to it

because we’re going to come back to it but many of the world’s most successful

but many of the world’s most successful

but many of the world’s most successful companies are leveraging the hacker

companies are leveraging the hacker

companies are leveraging the hacker mindset for that success Tesla Facebook

mindset for that success Tesla Facebook

mindset for that success Tesla Facebook Twitter square the list goes on and on

that’s why the world’s most successful

that’s why the world’s most successful companies are being run by hackers in

companies are being run by hackers in

companies are being run by hackers in fact when Facebook went public

fact when Facebook went public

fact when Facebook went public Mark Zuckerberg wrote a letter to the

Mark Zuckerberg wrote a letter to the

Mark Zuckerberg wrote a letter to the shareholders thanking them for their

shareholders thanking them for their

shareholders thanking them for their support but telling them we will not run

support but telling them we will not run

support but telling them we will not run this company like a traditional company

this company like a traditional company

this company like a traditional company we are going to run it using the hacker

we are going to run it using the hacker

we are going to run it using the hacker way and if you remember where the

way and if you remember where the

way and if you remember where the headquarters are on one hacker way now I

headquarters are on one hacker way now I

headquarters are on one hacker way now I want you to take in what we’re talking

want you to take in what we’re talking

want you to take in what we’re talking about here right I want you all to

about here right I want you all to

about here right I want you all to question what it means to be a hacker

question what it means to be a hacker

question what it means to be a hacker and I want you all to strive to have a

and I want you all to strive to have a

and I want you all to strive to have a better understanding of the hacker

better understanding of the hacker

better understanding of the hacker mindset and a better understanding of

mindset and a better understanding of

mindset and a better understanding of yourselves and the world that you exist

yourselves and the world that you exist

yourselves and the world that you exist in and identify things in your world

in and identify things in your world

in and identify things in your world worth hacking for the children who are

worth hacking for the children who are

worth hacking for the children who are asking questions that it seems that no

asking questions that it seems that no

asking questions that it seems that no one else is interested in continue to

one else is interested in continue to

one else is interested in continue to ask those questions for the parents who

ask those questions for the parents who

ask those questions for the parents who are confused by their child’s interests

are confused by their child’s interests

are confused by their child’s interests try encouraging them they may one day

try encouraging them they may one day

try encouraging them they may one day surprise you by sharing their ideas with

surprise you by sharing their ideas with

surprise you by sharing their ideas with the world and don’t be afraid to ask

the world and don’t be afraid to ask

the world and don’t be afraid to ask what would happen if I think that we

what would happen if I think that we

what would happen if I think that we should all strive to be hackers because

should all strive to be hackers because

should all strive to be hackers because hacking is an artful form of expression

hacking is an artful form of expression

hacking is an artful form of expression in fact hacking is an artful form of not

in fact hacking is an artful form of not

in fact hacking is an artful form of not problem-solving but solution finding and

problem-solving but solution finding and

problem-solving but solution finding and I encourage you all to find things in

I encourage you all to find things in

I encourage you all to find things in your world in your community to hack

your world in your community to hack

your world in your community to hack whether it be Civic hacking whether it

whether it be Civic hacking whether it

whether it be Civic hacking whether it be life hacking and if you’re unfamiliar

be life hacking and if you’re unfamiliar

be life hacking and if you’re unfamiliar with these terms look them up you may be

with these terms look them up you may be

with these terms look them up you may be surprised

I want to encourage you to leverage

I want to encourage you to leverage hacking the way that many of these

hacking the way that many of these

hacking the way that many of these companies are in the renewal of our

companies are in the renewal of our

companies are in the renewal of our world in the reinvention of our society

world in the reinvention of our society

world in the reinvention of our society the way we communicate our lives and I

the way we communicate our lives and I

the way we communicate our lives and I want you to open yourselves up and

want you to open yourselves up and

want you to open yourselves up and welcome the idea of thinking like a

welcome the idea of thinking like a

welcome the idea of thinking like a hacker my name is Tim and hacking is my

hacker my name is Tim and hacking is my

hacker my name is Tim and hacking is my art thank you so much

art thank you so much

art thank you so much [Applause]

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