welcome back to segment three of show 15 so lightning round what’s the first
so lightning round what’s the first
so lightning round what’s the first question all right so Tommy ash is TV
question all right so Tommy ash is TV
question all right so Tommy ash is TV dead uh I’m gonna be sitting on a panel
dead uh I’m gonna be sitting on a panel
dead uh I’m gonna be sitting on a panel at digital hollywood this week where
at digital hollywood this week where
at digital hollywood this week where we’re going to be talking more and more
we’re going to be talking more and more
we’re going to be talking more and more about that no TV is not that TV did more
about that no TV is not that TV did more
about that no TV is not that TV did more revenue than ever last year TV still has
revenue than ever last year TV still has
revenue than ever last year TV still has the best programming TV carries news and
the best programming TV carries news and
the best programming TV carries news and sports etc etc TV is not dead I just
sports etc etc TV is not dead I just
sports etc etc TV is not dead I just think that in 10 years the companies
think that in 10 years the companies
think that in 10 years the companies that are the Viacom’s the news corp’s
that are the Viacom’s the news corp’s
that are the Viacom’s the news corp’s the NBC’s those companies will face the
the NBC’s those companies will face the
the NBC’s those companies will face the various degrees some of the same things
various degrees some of the same things
various degrees some of the same things that print and print and music companies
that print and print and music companies
that print and print and music companies went through but overall the same way
went through but overall the same way
went through but overall the same way that the advent of cable made total
that the advent of cable made total
that the advent of cable made total television consumption and advertising
television consumption and advertising
television consumption and advertising bigger I do think though that overall
bigger I do think though that overall
bigger I do think though that overall the overall consumption of content will
the overall consumption of content will
the overall consumption of content will just increase because now if I don’t
just increase because now if I don’t
just increase because now if I don’t have time to watch television pretty
have time to watch television pretty
have time to watch television pretty soon I will be able to watch it on
soon I will be able to watch it on
soon I will be able to watch it on demand on a tablet and the reason for
demand on a tablet and the reason for
demand on a tablet and the reason for that is that the gatekeepers like
that is that the gatekeepers like
that is that the gatekeepers like comcast and verizon are going to keep
comcast and verizon are going to keep
comcast and verizon are going to keep pushing the envelope to offer more to
pushing the envelope to offer more to
pushing the envelope to offer more to users because they they control
users because they they control
users because they they control distribution and they want offer more
distribution and they want offer more
distribution and they want offer more question number two so you always think
question number two so you always think
question number two so you always think about oh my god if you embrace
about oh my god if you embrace
about oh my god if you embrace technology you’re going to basically
technology you’re going to basically
technology you’re going to basically survive the early adopter through the
survive the early adopter through the
survive the early adopter through the early adopter but yet in fear in
early adopter but yet in fear in
early adopter but yet in fear in practice it’s almost the opposite case
practice it’s almost the opposite case
practice it’s almost the opposite case in point the San Jose Mercury News they
in point the San Jose Mercury News they
in point the San Jose Mercury News they adopted newspaper they adopted the
adopted newspaper they adopted the
adopted newspaper they adopted the internet really really early and they
internet really really early and they
internet really really early and they almost got crushed more than anyone else
almost got crushed more than anyone else
almost got crushed more than anyone else so why didn’t the Mercury News become
so why didn’t the Mercury News become
so why didn’t the Mercury News become this amazing model of embracing the
this amazing model of embracing the
this amazing model of embracing the latest shiniest gadget um you know I
latest shiniest gadget um you know I
latest shiniest gadget um you know I haven’t dived into them you know Mercury
haven’t dived into them you know Mercury
haven’t dived into them you know Mercury News case study deeply but I think what
News case study deeply but I think what
News case study deeply but I think what really killed newspapers early off
really killed newspapers early off
really killed newspapers early off whether they were early adopters or not
whether they were early adopters or not
whether they were early adopters or not was it was a complete lack of ad
was it was a complete lack of ad
was it was a complete lack of ad targeting for to a big degree the
targeting for to a big degree the
targeting for to a big degree the technology wasn’t really there yet but I
technology wasn’t really there yet but I
technology wasn’t really there yet but I think what they did wrong is they just
think what they did wrong is they just
think what they did wrong is they just tried to apply their their print ad
tried to apply their their print ad
tried to apply their their print ad sales model to online you know just sell
sales model to online you know just sell
sales model to online you know just sell out some real estate then they found out
out some real estate then they found out
out some real estate then they found out there’s only so much people are willing
there’s only so much people are willing
there’s only so much people are willing to pay for an impression and then they
to pay for an impression and then they
to pay for an impression and then they started you know
started you know
started you know as a result they see their website is
as a result they see their website is
as a result they see their website is not making very much money they treated
not making very much money they treated
not making very much money they treated it as this bastard redheaded stepchild
it as this bastard redheaded stepchild
it as this bastard redheaded stepchild and they don’t invest in doing more
and they don’t invest in doing more
and they don’t invest in doing more things but really what it came down to
things but really what it came down to
things but really what it came down to his lack of ad targeting with good ad
his lack of ad targeting with good ad
his lack of ad targeting with good ad targeting they could have diversified
targeting they could have diversified
targeting they could have diversified more mixed up impressions with cpa with
more mixed up impressions with cpa with
more mixed up impressions with cpa with CPC depending on who the user is and
CPC depending on who the user is and
CPC depending on who the user is and they probably could have done a little
they probably could have done a little
they probably could have done a little bit more symbiotic editorial now I
bit more symbiotic editorial now I
bit more symbiotic editorial now I realize newspapers are supposed to
realize newspapers are supposed to
realize newspapers are supposed to provide reporting and be objective but
provide reporting and be objective but
provide reporting and be objective but like let’s face it they’re arts and life
like let’s face it they’re arts and life
like let’s face it they’re arts and life section their auto section like these
section their auto section like these
section their auto section like these these are sections of the newspaper that
these are sections of the newspaper that
these are sections of the newspaper that can actually drive a lot of page views
can actually drive a lot of page views
can actually drive a lot of page views and they have a little bit more
and they have a little bit more
and they have a little bit more flexibility in terms of like the kind of
flexibility in terms of like the kind of
flexibility in terms of like the kind of editorial they deliver so yeah mostly ad
editorial they deliver so yeah mostly ad
editorial they deliver so yeah mostly ad targeting but because of the ad
targeting but because of the ad
targeting but because of the ad targeting they did invest in proper
targeting they did invest in proper
targeting they did invest in proper digital strategy because they didn’t see
digital strategy because they didn’t see
digital strategy because they didn’t see a return okay I’m not gonna chime on I
a return okay I’m not gonna chime on I
a return okay I’m not gonna chime on I am going to say this on an upcoming show
am going to say this on an upcoming show
am going to say this on an upcoming show we’re going to talk about craigslist the
we’re going to talk about craigslist the
we’re going to talk about craigslist the impact on newspapers how much of it is
impact on newspapers how much of it is
impact on newspapers how much of it is myth how much of it is fear mongering
myth how much of it is fear mongering
myth how much of it is fear mongering you know fud and how much of it is
you know fud and how much of it is
you know fud and how much of it is actually legitimately what Facebook did
actually legitimately what Facebook did
actually legitimately what Facebook did to newspapers okay so little mental note
to newspapers okay so little mental note
to newspapers okay so little mental note next question all right um so Mark
next question all right um so Mark
next question all right um so Mark Pincus did something interesting this
Pincus did something interesting this
Pincus did something interesting this week a sh do you think he was unethical
week a sh do you think he was unethical
week a sh do you think he was unethical for trying to waste trying to take away
for trying to waste trying to take away
for trying to waste trying to take away stock from his early employees so mark
stock from his early employees so mark
stock from his early employees so mark pincus is the CEO of Zynga one of the
pincus is the CEO of Zynga one of the
pincus is the CEO of Zynga one of the hottest companies out there mark pincus
hottest companies out there mark pincus
hottest companies out there mark pincus has already the unfortunate reality that
has already the unfortunate reality that
has already the unfortunate reality that there was a video of him like a couple
there was a video of him like a couple
there was a video of him like a couple years ago that came out about how much
years ago that came out about how much
years ago that came out about how much he talked about what unethical things he
he talked about what unethical things he
he talked about what unethical things he did to get revenue by basically you know
did to get revenue by basically you know
did to get revenue by basically you know violating users rights and all that and
violating users rights and all that and
violating users rights and all that and it was very embarrassing Tim so Mark
it was very embarrassing Tim so Mark
it was very embarrassing Tim so Mark Pincus that is context that he has a
Pincus that is context that he has a
Pincus that is context that he has a track record of really pushing the
track record of really pushing the
track record of really pushing the envelope but you know what the season
envelope but you know what the season
envelope but you know what the season and Wall Street love that kind of CEO
and Wall Street love that kind of CEO
and Wall Street love that kind of CEO they love the kind of CEOs cutthroat
they love the kind of CEOs cutthroat
they love the kind of CEOs cutthroat who’s going to do what’s best for
who’s going to do what’s best for
who’s going to do what’s best for himself in his company and his
himself in his company and his
himself in his company and his shareholders and could care less about
shareholders and could care less about
shareholders and could care less about you know how things look but to be fair
you know how things look but to be fair
you know how things look but to be fair here there’s what the market thought
here there’s what the market thought
here there’s what the market thought happened which was Mark Pincus telling
happened which was Mark Pincus telling
happened which was Mark Pincus telling his employees we’re going to take stock
his employees we’re going to take stock
his employees we’re going to take stock away from you because we want to give it
away from you because we want to give it
away from you because we want to give it to new employees and we don’t want to
to new employees and we don’t want to
to new employees and we don’t want to dilute let’s I don’t want to dilute as a
dilute let’s I don’t want to dilute as a
dilute let’s I don’t want to dilute as a CEO or the investors don’t want to
CEO or the investors don’t want to
CEO or the investors don’t want to dilute that’s really unfair and shocking
dilute that’s really unfair and shocking
dilute that’s really unfair and shocking or whatnot but what he actually said was
or whatnot but what he actually said was
or whatnot but what he actually said was there are some employees who have not
there are some employees who have not
there are some employees who have not vested
vested
vested all their stock let’s say you have stock
all their stock let’s say you have stock
all their stock let’s say you have stock that you earn over four year period
that you earn over four year period
that you earn over four year period you’ve been with Zynga for two years or
you’ve been with Zynga for two years or
you’ve been with Zynga for two years or you know the remaining two years of
you know the remaining two years of
you know the remaining two years of unvested stock you want you should give
unvested stock you want you should give
unvested stock you want you should give some of that back because you’re not
some of that back because you’re not
some of that back because you’re not performing the way we thought you were
performing the way we thought you were
performing the way we thought you were this is a very murky area it’s like
this is a very murky area it’s like
this is a very murky area it’s like lawyers go crazy right so as much as
lawyers go crazy right so as much as
lawyers go crazy right so as much as what he’s doing is unfair in the eyes of
what he’s doing is unfair in the eyes of
what he’s doing is unfair in the eyes of many and I would never personally do it
many and I would never personally do it
many and I would never personally do it it’s not what was initially reported in
it’s not what was initially reported in
it’s not what was initially reported in the media because nowadays people want
the media because nowadays people want
the media because nowadays people want to be the first to jump on the story and
to be the first to jump on the story and
to be the first to jump on the story and not report the facts that is not cool
not report the facts that is not cool
not report the facts that is not cool I’m going to just say listen mark zhang
I’m going to just say listen mark zhang
I’m going to just say listen mark zhang sorry margins inga mark pincus is Mark
sorry margins inga mark pincus is Mark
sorry margins inga mark pincus is Mark Pincus that’s how he is it shouldn’t
Pincus that’s how he is it shouldn’t
Pincus that’s how he is it shouldn’t surprise you and vc-backed companies
surprise you and vc-backed companies
surprise you and vc-backed companies don’t really care about anyone but the
don’t really care about anyone but the
don’t really care about anyone but the investors who put in the money not the
investors who put in the money not the
investors who put in the money not the shareholders who might have stock as
shareholders who might have stock as
shareholders who might have stock as employees and all that but the guys who
employees and all that but the guys who
employees and all that but the guys who put the money to me when I started
put the money to me when I started
put the money to me when I started watchmojo and this is like naive
watchmojo and this is like naive
watchmojo and this is like naive idealistic stupid you know innocent a
idealistic stupid you know innocent a
idealistic stupid you know innocent a sheer but I was like you know I’d like
sheer but I was like you know I’d like
sheer but I was like you know I’d like to start a company where I can you know
to start a company where I can you know
to start a company where I can you know be a certain way with clients and
be a certain way with clients and
be a certain way with clients and employees and you know what that’s I
employees and you know what that’s I
employees and you know what that’s I think naive and you know stupid
think naive and you know stupid
think naive and you know stupid basically that’s the real world what
basically that’s the real world what
basically that’s the real world what Mark Pincus is doing just got out stuff
Mark Pincus is doing just got out stuff
Mark Pincus is doing just got out stuff like that unfortunately happens at more
like that unfortunately happens at more
like that unfortunately happens at more or less every venture-backed companies
or less every venture-backed companies
or less every venture-backed companies it’s just the reality was on answering
it’s just the reality was on answering
it’s just the reality was on answering the question just because it happens and
the question just because it happens and
the question just because it happens and just because it makes sense from a
just because it makes sense from a
just because it makes sense from a business investment side is it ethical
business investment side is it ethical
business investment side is it ethical or not uh is it ethical it’s life’s
or not uh is it ethical it’s life’s
or not uh is it ethical it’s life’s unfair I don’t think it’s ethical I
unfair I don’t think it’s ethical I
unfair I don’t think it’s ethical I don’t share mark pincus moral compass
don’t share mark pincus moral compass
don’t share mark pincus moral compass but mark pincus is worth on paper let’s
but mark pincus is worth on paper let’s
but mark pincus is worth on paper let’s say five billion dollars I’m worth five
say five billion dollars I’m worth five
say five billion dollars I’m worth five dollars let’s say and I think it depends
dollars let’s say and I think it depends
dollars let’s say and I think it depends what is your objective in life if it’s
what is your objective in life if it’s
what is your objective in life if it’s purely to make money like you know it’s
purely to make money like you know it’s
purely to make money like you know it’s like there’s a class ad in college it
like there’s a class ad in college it
like there’s a class ad in college it was what’s the objective what’s the
was what’s the objective what’s the
was what’s the objective what’s the constraint if you wake up in the morning
constraint if you wake up in the morning
constraint if you wake up in the morning and your objective is make the most
and your objective is make the most
and your objective is make the most money possible let’s say for me it’s
money possible let’s say for me it’s
money possible let’s say for me it’s like build something that has value and
like build something that has value and
like build something that has value and the constraint is don’t be a dick you
the constraint is don’t be a dick you
the constraint is don’t be a dick you know I could step on the neck of many
know I could step on the neck of many
know I could step on the neck of many people clients suppliers employees to
people clients suppliers employees to
people clients suppliers employees to get an extra two dollars out of every
get an extra two dollars out of every
get an extra two dollars out of every transaction I like to go with what dick
transaction I like to go with what dick
transaction I like to go with what dick Parsons former chairman of Time Warner
Parsons former chairman of Time Warner
Parsons former chairman of Time Warner says which was when you negotiate leave
says which was when you negotiate leave
says which was when you negotiate leave something on the table
something on the table
something on the table other party if you always try to get
other party if you always try to get
other party if you always try to get every penny on the table well that other
every penny on the table well that other
every penny on the table well that other your counterparty won’t want to deal
your counterparty won’t want to deal
your counterparty won’t want to deal with you down the road so mark pink is
with you down the road so mark pink is
with you down the road so mark pink is we live in a world it’s a capitalist
we live in a world it’s a capitalist
we live in a world it’s a capitalist world vc’s markets everybody rewards
world vc’s markets everybody rewards
world vc’s markets everybody rewards that kind of behavior implicitly and
that kind of behavior implicitly and
that kind of behavior implicitly and explicitly it doesn’t matter if it’s
explicitly it doesn’t matter if it’s
explicitly it doesn’t matter if it’s unethical that’s the world we live in
unethical that’s the world we live in
unethical that’s the world we live in VCS are conditioning entrepreneurs to be
VCS are conditioning entrepreneurs to be
VCS are conditioning entrepreneurs to be bastards that’s the world we live in
bastards that’s the world we live in
bastards that’s the world we live in it’s not about ethics it’s that’s the
it’s not about ethics it’s that’s the
it’s not about ethics it’s that’s the world we live in so if you decide to
world we live in so if you decide to
world we live in so if you decide to play ball with VCS that’s the kind of
play ball with VCS that’s the kind of
play ball with VCS that’s the kind of stuff you have to do you know I wouldn’t
stuff you have to do you know I wouldn’t
stuff you have to do you know I wouldn’t do it do I think Mark Pincus is an
do it do I think Mark Pincus is an
do it do I think Mark Pincus is an a-hole I don’t know him would I do that
a-hole I don’t know him would I do that
a-hole I don’t know him would I do that no what does that do to morale doesn’t
no what does that do to morale doesn’t
no what does that do to morale doesn’t really help it the profile of an
really help it the profile of an
really help it the profile of an employee that joins you when you’re
employee that joins you when you’re
employee that joins you when you’re worth 20 billion is different than the
worth 20 billion is different than the
worth 20 billion is different than the employee that joins you when you got a
employee that joins you when you got a
employee that joins you when you got a piece of paper on a napkin you should
piece of paper on a napkin you should
piece of paper on a napkin you should treat those you should treat those
treat those you should treat those
treat those you should treat those employees differently but again I’m not
employees differently but again I’m not
employees differently but again I’m not anybody to tell mark part Pincus what to
anybody to tell mark part Pincus what to
anybody to tell mark part Pincus what to do I when you’re trying really hard not
do I when you’re trying really hard not
do I when you’re trying really hard not to offend him right I would love no
to offend him right I would love no
to offend him right I would love no here’s what I will say I would love it
here’s what I will say I would love it
here’s what I will say I would love it if Fred Wilson who’s the investor in in
if Fred Wilson who’s the investor in in
if Fred Wilson who’s the investor in in zynga to chime in on that but I’m pretty
zynga to chime in on that but I’m pretty
zynga to chime in on that but I’m pretty sure he won’t either you know again it’s
sure he won’t either you know again it’s
sure he won’t either you know again it’s a it’s a it’s a beautiful thing in life
a it’s a it’s a beautiful thing in life
a it’s a it’s a beautiful thing in life you you don’t have to agree with people
you you don’t have to agree with people
you you don’t have to agree with people and you know did litigation ultimately
and you know did litigation ultimately
and you know did litigation ultimately help the music industry I think
help the music industry I think
help the music industry I think litigations screwed the music industry
litigations screwed the music industry
litigations screwed the music industry Napster came out mp3.com came out they
Napster came out mp3.com came out they
Napster came out mp3.com came out they got sued they got shut down the people
got sued they got shut down the people
got sued they got shut down the people who are interested in this kind of
who are interested in this kind of
who are interested in this kind of technology said okay what were the legal
technology said okay what were the legal
technology said okay what were the legal terms of why you know Napster didn’t get
terms of why you know Napster didn’t get
terms of why you know Napster didn’t get away with it we’ll just find another way
away with it we’ll just find another way
away with it we’ll just find another way to doing it current peer-to-peer
to doing it current peer-to-peer
to doing it current peer-to-peer technology now the music industry has no
technology now the music industry has no
technology now the music industry has no choice but to go after like single mums
choice but to go after like single mums
choice but to go after like single mums which they’ve done to you know make an
which they’ve done to you know make an
which they’ve done to you know make an example ideal up to sue there you know
example ideal up to sue there you know
example ideal up to sue there you know well that’s it you know and you can’t
well that’s it you know and you can’t
well that’s it you know and you can’t sue every consumer out there so I think
sue every consumer out there so I think
sue every consumer out there so I think litigation ultimately screwed them I
litigation ultimately screwed them I
litigation ultimately screwed them I think you know maybe they should have
think you know maybe they should have
think you know maybe they should have played ball with Sean Parker and
played ball with Sean Parker and
played ball with Sean Parker and actually jump on the bag on a lot
actually jump on the bag on a lot
actually jump on the bag on a lot earlier they probably could have
earlier they probably could have
earlier they probably could have precluded the possibility of itunes if
precluded the possibility of itunes if
precluded the possibility of itunes if they done so who’s to say you know it’s
they done so who’s to say you know it’s
they done so who’s to say you know it’s in the past and we’ll never know but
in the past and we’ll never know but
in the past and we’ll never know but yeah I think litigation screwed them
yeah I think litigation screwed them
yeah I think litigation screwed them pretty hard email the week email the
pretty hard email the week email the
pretty hard email the week email the week Baltimore not too many blue moons
week Baltimore not too many blue moons
week Baltimore not too many blue moons come from Baltimore Ansel is that how
come from Baltimore Ansel is that how
come from Baltimore Ansel is that how you pronounce it and pencil it Ansel
you pronounce it and pencil it Ansel
you pronounce it and pencil it Ansel from Baltimore I’m guessing but yes I
from Baltimore I’m guessing but yes I
from Baltimore I’m guessing but yes I hope so sorry Ansel do you need to be in
hope so sorry Ansel do you need to be in
hope so sorry Ansel do you need to be in New York or San Francisco or
New York or San Francisco or
New York or San Francisco or major city to do a digital media or tech
major city to do a digital media or tech
major city to do a digital media or tech startup I actually went to college with
startup I actually went to college with
startup I actually went to college with an Ansel but he wasn’t from Baltimore do
an Ansel but he wasn’t from Baltimore do
an Ansel but he wasn’t from Baltimore do you need to be in New York or San Fran
you need to be in New York or San Fran
you need to be in New York or San Fran or LA or any major city to do it media
or LA or any major city to do it media
or LA or any major city to do it media or tech startup I think you could start
or tech startup I think you could start
or tech startup I think you could start a company more or less everywhere but to
a company more or less everywhere but to
a company more or less everywhere but to scale it you do need to be in a big city
scale it you do need to be in a big city
scale it you do need to be in a big city I don’t care about what technology does
I don’t care about what technology does
I don’t care about what technology does and this and that I’ll give you a couple
and this and that I’ll give you a couple
and this and that I’ll give you a couple of examples so we started the company in
of examples so we started the company in
of examples so we started the company in Montreal Montreal it’s great city it’s
Montreal Montreal it’s great city it’s
Montreal Montreal it’s great city it’s great to start it lots of talent here
great to start it lots of talent here
great to start it lots of talent here you know you see everybody loving it
you know you see everybody loving it
you know you see everybody loving it shouting you know shout out to the city
shouting you know shout out to the city
shouting you know shout out to the city but like when Google and YouTube
but like when Google and YouTube
but like when Google and YouTube basically forked over a hundred to two
basically forked over a hundred to two
basically forked over a hundred to two hundred million dollars to content
hundred million dollars to content
hundred million dollars to content producers you know there is merit if you
producers you know there is merit if you
producers you know there is merit if you are in their face and you run into the
are in their face and you run into the
are in their face and you run into the people who make those kind of decisions
people who make those kind of decisions
people who make those kind of decisions at the cocktail parties and the after
at the cocktail parties and the after
at the cocktail parties and the after party events and all that and I think if
party events and all that and I think if
party events and all that and I think if you’re not you know out of sight out of
you’re not you know out of sight out of
you’re not you know out of sight out of mind if you’re not in front meeting
mind if you’re not in front meeting
mind if you’re not in front meeting people running into people stumbling
people running into people stumbling
people running into people stumbling into people you do miss out on a lot of
into people you do miss out on a lot of
into people you do miss out on a lot of opportunities but at the end of the day
opportunities but at the end of the day
opportunities but at the end of the day I think the beautiful thing about the
I think the beautiful thing about the
I think the beautiful thing about the web is you should probably set up your
web is you should probably set up your
web is you should probably set up your company where you’re going to find
company where you’re going to find
company where you’re going to find talent you know so for us being in the
talent you know so for us being in the
talent you know so for us being in the media creative space I think I lucked
media creative space I think I lucked
media creative space I think I lucked out or I mean I don’t say it was part of
out or I mean I don’t say it was part of
out or I mean I don’t say it was part of the vision I think I lucked out to be
the vision I think I lucked out to be
the vision I think I lucked out to be set up in Montreal there’s a lot of very
set up in Montreal there’s a lot of very
set up in Montreal there’s a lot of very creative people if I would have been a
creative people if I would have been a
creative people if I would have been a tech company you know I think then yeah
tech company you know I think then yeah
tech company you know I think then yeah you might need to be a now here’s the
you might need to be a now here’s the
you might need to be a now here’s the irony even in tech it’s harder to hire
irony even in tech it’s harder to hire
irony even in tech it’s harder to hire in San friend than it is saying Montreal
in San friend than it is saying Montreal
in San friend than it is saying Montreal right so so times have changed but I do
right so so times have changed but I do
right so so times have changed but I do think though that if you really want to
think though that if you really want to
think though that if you really want to build like a multi-billion dollar
build like a multi-billion dollar
build like a multi-billion dollar company then you do need to be in like
company then you do need to be in like
company then you do need to be in like the center of capital and the center of
the center of capital and the center of
the center of capital and the center of your field so New York or San Fran or LA
your field so New York or San Fran or LA
your field so New York or San Fran or LA so you could set it up anywhere but you
so you could set it up anywhere but you
so you could set it up anywhere but you do need to move very quickly or at least
do need to move very quickly or at least
do need to move very quickly or at least have some kind of representation yep
have some kind of representation yep
have some kind of representation yep alright so that was this week’s show
alright so that was this week’s show
alright so that was this week’s show show number 15 and we’ll be back next
show number 15 and we’ll be back next
show number 15 and we’ll be back next week same time same place
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