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Hunting down natural gas leaks with Google Street View cars | Dr. Joe von Fischer | TEDxCSU


it’s an honor to kick off this TED talk

it’s an honor to kick off this TED talk so that’s a microscope right everybody

so that’s a microscope right everybody

so that’s a microscope right everybody seen a microscope before and if you

seen a microscope before and if you

seen a microscope before and if you imagine life before the microscope

imagine life before the microscope

imagine life before the microscope the whole study of of biology was

the whole study of of biology was

the whole study of of biology was radically different the invention the

radically different the invention the

radically different the invention the microscope changed not just science but

microscope changed not just science but

microscope changed not just science but it changed Society for example it

it changed Society for example it

it changed Society for example it allowed us to identify when there are

allowed us to identify when there are

allowed us to identify when there are the AIDS of causal agents of diseases as

the AIDS of causal agents of diseases as

the AIDS of causal agents of diseases as microbes which were pre-approve leaves

microbes which were pre-approve leaves

microbes which were pre-approve leaves previously unappreciated before that and

previously unappreciated before that and

previously unappreciated before that and our work with the Google Street View

our work with the Google Street View

our work with the Google Street View cars is part of another sort of

cars is part of another sort of

cars is part of another sort of scientific innovation I’m not saying

scientific innovation I’m not saying

scientific innovation I’m not saying it’s gonna be as transformative as the

it’s gonna be as transformative as the

it’s gonna be as transformative as the microscope but I think what’s

microscope but I think what’s

microscope but I think what’s interesting is to be present in the time

interesting is to be present in the time

interesting is to be present in the time when people are changing the way that

when people are changing the way that

when people are changing the way that they that they think about environmental

they that they think about environmental

they that they think about environmental hazards in its detection so my work is

hazards in its detection so my work is

hazards in its detection so my work is with my personal favorite gasps I think

with my personal favorite gasps I think

with my personal favorite gasps I think we all have a favorite gas – methane

we all have a favorite gas – methane

we all have a favorite gas – methane methane is about 80 times more potent

methane is about 80 times more potent

methane is about 80 times more potent than carbon dioxide on a molecule for

than carbon dioxide on a molecule for

than carbon dioxide on a molecule for molecule basis and even though there’s

molecule basis and even though there’s

molecule basis and even though there’s 200 fold less of it in the atmosphere

200 fold less of it in the atmosphere

200 fold less of it in the atmosphere than there is carbon dioxide it’s still

than there is carbon dioxide it’s still

than there is carbon dioxide it’s still a close second place to co2 as far as

a close second place to co2 as far as

a close second place to co2 as far as this global warming potential there’s

this global warming potential there’s

this global warming potential there’s far more methane in the atmosphere than

far more methane in the atmosphere than

far more methane in the atmosphere than there has been over the last thousands

there has been over the last thousands

there has been over the last thousands of years and it’s coming up as a result

of years and it’s coming up as a result

of years and it’s coming up as a result of human activities and there’s two key

of human activities and there’s two key

of human activities and there’s two key sources of things that we’re doing that

sources of things that we’re doing that

sources of things that we’re doing that are altering the construction of methane

are altering the construction of methane

are altering the construction of methane in the atmosphere one there are

in the atmosphere one there are

in the atmosphere one there are different sorts of biological activities

different sorts of biological activities

different sorts of biological activities that that are enhanced as a result of of

that that are enhanced as a result of of

that that are enhanced as a result of of human activities and second natural gas

human activities and second natural gas

human activities and second natural gas natural gas is 98% methane so I’m I

natural gas is 98% methane so I’m I

natural gas is 98% methane so I’m I became interested in methane and I made

became interested in methane and I made

became interested in methane and I made a major career pivot to expand my scope

a major career pivot to expand my scope

a major career pivot to expand my scope and leave my sort of home planet of

and leave my sort of home planet of

and leave my sort of home planet of biology and explore far more fascinating

biology and explore far more fascinating

biology and explore far more fascinating worlds that are out there and that’s

worlds that are out there and that’s

worlds that are out there and that’s what I’ll be talking about more today so

what I’ll be talking about more today so

what I’ll be talking about more today so the way I have been studying methane in

the way I have been studying methane in

the way I have been studying methane in sort of natural environments is is to go

sort of natural environments is is to go

sort of natural environments is is to go out there and find a place that’s

out there and find a place that’s

out there and find a place that’s emitting a lot of methane and I might

emitting a lot of methane and I might

emitting a lot of methane and I might like put a put a bucket over the ground

like put a put a bucket over the ground

like put a put a bucket over the ground and then measure the amount of methane

and then measure the amount of methane

and then measure the amount of methane that’s that’s coming into this bucket

that’s that’s coming into this bucket

that’s that’s coming into this bucket I’ll take an air sample and then I’ll

I’ll take an air sample and then I’ll

I’ll take an air sample and then I’ll bring that air sample back from wherever

bring that air sample back from wherever

bring that air sample back from wherever I sampled it and bring it from my

I sampled it and bring it from my

I sampled it and bring it from my laboratory that’s a little one of the

laboratory that’s a little one of the

laboratory that’s a little one of the sample

sample

sample that we put air in and we had that’s big

that we put air in and we had that’s big

that we put air in and we had that’s big machine back there with the Thor picture

machine back there with the Thor picture

machine back there with the Thor picture on it that’s our analyzer our methane

on it that’s our analyzer our methane

on it that’s our analyzer our methane analyzer grass chromatograph it’s

analyzer grass chromatograph it’s

analyzer grass chromatograph it’s amazing that’s how we see methane takes

amazing that’s how we see methane takes

amazing that’s how we see methane takes a couple minutes to analyze each sample

a couple minutes to analyze each sample

a couple minutes to analyze each sample and and as a result of that analyzer

and and as a result of that analyzer

and and as a result of that analyzer we’ve learned a lot about natural and

we’ve learned a lot about natural and

we’ve learned a lot about natural and other types of sources of methane to the

other types of sources of methane to the

other types of sources of methane to the atmosphere but what happened about 10

atmosphere but what happened about 10

atmosphere but what happened about 10 years ago was sort of a revolution in

years ago was sort of a revolution in

years ago was sort of a revolution in laser technology so there was a

laser technology so there was a

laser technology so there was a revolution that in decreasing the cost

revolution that in decreasing the cost

revolution that in decreasing the cost and increasing the sensitivity and power

and increasing the sensitivity and power

and increasing the sensitivity and power of these infrared lasers infrared light

of these infrared lasers infrared light

of these infrared lasers infrared light is the color of light that’s emitted by

is the color of light that’s emitted by

is the color of light that’s emitted by warm objects like the Earth’s surface

warm objects like the Earth’s surface

warm objects like the Earth’s surface that warmth heads up to space and and is

that warmth heads up to space and and is

that warmth heads up to space and and is absorbed on its way by methane molecules

absorbed on its way by methane molecules

absorbed on its way by methane molecules and then reradiating back down earth

and then reradiating back down earth

and then reradiating back down earth that’s the greenhouse effect these

that’s the greenhouse effect these

that’s the greenhouse effect these lasers work on the very same principles

lasers work on the very same principles

lasers work on the very same principles by shining a little bit of laser light

by shining a little bit of laser light

by shining a little bit of laser light of that same infrared color through a

of that same infrared color through a

of that same infrared color through a cell where there’s air samples being

cell where there’s air samples being

cell where there’s air samples being passed through and then you can measure

passed through and then you can measure

passed through and then you can measure that how much light is missing how foggy

that how much light is missing how foggy

that how much light is missing how foggy the area is in infrared and you can

the area is in infrared and you can

the area is in infrared and you can suddenly start to to see methane in real

suddenly start to to see methane in real

suddenly start to to see methane in real time you could take a little tube and

time you could take a little tube and

time you could take a little tube and you could ask yourself how much methane

you could ask yourself how much methane

you could ask yourself how much methane is over here how much methane is over

is over here how much methane is over

is over here how much methane is over there it’s awesome I mean you should try

there it’s awesome I mean you should try

there it’s awesome I mean you should try it it’s great and so you can try it we

it it’s great and so you can try it we

it it’s great and so you can try it we brought one of these methane analyzers

brought one of these methane analyzers

brought one of these methane analyzers over to the innovation alley and and

over to the innovation alley and and

over to the innovation alley and and you’ll be able to see if you have any

you’ll be able to see if you have any

you’ll be able to see if you have any methane come on your breath or not other

methane come on your breath or not other

methane come on your breath or not other parts please but you know there’s lots

parts please but you know there’s lots

parts please but you know there’s lots that you can do about it to really see

that you can do about it to really see

that you can do about it to really see the world in a new way it is just like

the world in a new way it is just like

the world in a new way it is just like having glasses it’s changed what you do

having glasses it’s changed what you do

having glasses it’s changed what you do and so I’ve got one of these with some

and so I’ve got one of these with some

and so I’ve got one of these with some some grant money that I received and I

some grant money that I received and I

some grant money that I received and I bought one of these analyzers and and

bought one of these analyzers and and

bought one of these analyzers and and what would anybody do with one of these

what would anybody do with one of these

what would anybody do with one of these fancy new analyzers but I took it up to

fancy new analyzers but I took it up to

fancy new analyzers but I took it up to the Arctic tundra and so you’ll see I I

the Arctic tundra and so you’ll see I I

the Arctic tundra and so you’ll see I I brought this very analyzer here this

brought this very analyzer here this

brought this very analyzer here this black box it weighs about 70 pounds it’s

black box it weighs about 70 pounds it’s

black box it weighs about 70 pounds it’s powered by a car battery we dragged it

powered by a car battery we dragged it

powered by a car battery we dragged it around the tundra and just like I was

around the tundra and just like I was

around the tundra and just like I was saying we put the tube over here we put

saying we put the tube over here we put

saying we put the tube over here we put the tube over there you could find out

the tube over there you could find out

the tube over there you could find out where all the methane is coming off the

where all the methane is coming off the

where all the methane is coming off the tundra we found some hot spots we found

tundra we found some hot spots we found

tundra we found some hot spots we found an area maybe the size of this carpet

an area maybe the size of this carpet

an area maybe the size of this carpet that was emitting a thousand times more

that was emitting a thousand times more

that was emitting a thousand times more methane than other parts of the tundra

methane than other parts of the tundra

methane than other parts of the tundra we never figured out why but it was and

we never figured out why but it was and

we never figured out why but it was and we found these hot spots it was just it

we found these hot spots it was just it

we found these hot spots it was just it was awesome we had a great time so then

was awesome we had a great time so then

was awesome we had a great time so then it’s July it starts snowing in Alaska

it’s July it starts snowing in Alaska

it’s July it starts snowing in Alaska you have to come back home and so what

you have to come back home and so what

you have to come back home and so what are we gonna do with this thing I’m like

are we gonna do with this thing I’m like

are we gonna do with this thing I’m like hey where else cows can we use it let’s

hey where else cows can we use it let’s

hey where else cows can we use it let’s put it in the back of our lab truck it

put it in the back of our lab truck it

put it in the back of our lab truck it will drive around Fort Collins

will drive around Fort Collins

will drive around Fort Collins and we’ll see what else we could see but

and we’ll see what else we could see but

and we’ll see what else we could see but I’m gonna show you next is it’s not a

I’m gonna show you next is it’s not a

I’m gonna show you next is it’s not a pretty graph it’s not the kind that

pretty graph it’s not the kind that

pretty graph it’s not the kind that you’re supposed to show public audiences

you’re supposed to show public audiences

you’re supposed to show public audiences but this is the this is the graph that I

but this is the this is the graph that I

but this is the this is the graph that I made and I brought over to this company

made and I brought over to this company

made and I brought over to this company in town so on the bottom axis we’re

in town so on the bottom axis we’re

in town so on the bottom axis we’re looking at distance down the street on

looking at distance down the street on

looking at distance down the street on the x axis were looking at the

the x axis were looking at the

the x axis were looking at the concentration of methane you can see

concentration of methane you can see

concentration of methane you can see like the green the red and the green and

like the green the red and the green and

like the green the red and the green and the blue lines they have bumps in them

the blue lines they have bumps in them

the blue lines they have bumps in them right that is places in March and April

right that is places in March and April

right that is places in March and April and May where we had repeatedly driven

and May where we had repeatedly driven

and May where we had repeatedly driven by this one location in town I agreed

by this one location in town I agreed

by this one location in town I agreed not to shame them in public but they had

not to shame them in public but they had

not to shame them in public but they had elevated methane concentrations

elevated methane concentrations

elevated methane concentrations associated with their business and so we

associated with their business and so we

associated with their business and so we called him up we said hey did you know

called him up we said hey did you know

called him up we said hey did you know you have kind of a lot of methane

you have kind of a lot of methane

you have kind of a lot of methane they’re like what does that mean and so

they’re like what does that mean and so

they’re like what does that mean and so we went over we dragged that analyzer

we went over we dragged that analyzer

we went over we dragged that analyzer over we dragged a car batteries put it

over we dragged a car batteries put it

over we dragged a car batteries put it in a wagon on one of my kids wagons I

in a wagon on one of my kids wagons I

in a wagon on one of my kids wagons I don’t think they know that I was using

don’t think they know that I was using

don’t think they know that I was using it for that and then and then we found

it for that and then and then we found

it for that and then and then we found where exactly the methane was coming

where exactly the methane was coming

where exactly the methane was coming from and their and their place and it

from and their and their place and it

from and their and their place and it was it was transformational so here I am

was it was transformational so here I am

was it was transformational so here I am like a biologist doing gas stuff in my

like a biologist doing gas stuff in my

like a biologist doing gas stuff in my lab and having a good time and then

lab and having a good time and then

lab and having a good time and then suddenly I’m actually instead of just

suddenly I’m actually instead of just

suddenly I’m actually instead of just talking about greenhouse gas management

talking about greenhouse gas management

talking about greenhouse gas management I’m doing something about it I helped

I’m doing something about it I helped

I’m doing something about it I helped someone plug a leak of methane that was

someone plug a leak of methane that was

someone plug a leak of methane that was coming out I’m like wow this is like

coming out I’m like wow this is like

coming out I’m like wow this is like crack you know how how awesome to

crack you know how how awesome to

crack you know how how awesome to actually have an impact like that and so

actually have an impact like that and so

actually have an impact like that and so what this led me to have a greater

what this led me to have a greater

what this led me to have a greater appreciation of but what’s something

appreciation of but what’s something

appreciation of but what’s something that I third first thought was so

that I third first thought was so

that I third first thought was so pedestrian and boring became a

pedestrian and boring became a

pedestrian and boring became a fascination and a major subject of my

fascination and a major subject of my

fascination and a major subject of my research now and that is this this I’m

research now and that is this this I’m

research now and that is this this I’m not sure if you could see very well this

not sure if you could see very well this

not sure if you could see very well this is a photo that a friend I have

is a photo that a friend I have

is a photo that a friend I have different kinds of friends now sent me

different kinds of friends now sent me

different kinds of friends now sent me of of a leaking natural gas pipeline and

of of a leaking natural gas pipeline and

of of a leaking natural gas pipeline and you know we’re familiar with that thing

you know we’re familiar with that thing

you know we’re familiar with that thing on the on the right side over there

on the on the right side over there

on the on the right side over there that’s that’s the meter that brings the

that’s that’s the meter that brings the

that’s that’s the meter that brings the natural gas into your house so you can

natural gas into your house so you can

natural gas into your house so you can heat your everything and I’ve got my

heat your everything and I’ve got my

heat your everything and I’ve got my finger pointing to the part that’s at

finger pointing to the part that’s at

finger pointing to the part that’s at the ground because the way all this

the ground because the way all this

the ground because the way all this stuff gets to your house is underground

stuff gets to your house is underground

stuff gets to your house is underground there’s a myriad there’s a network of

there’s a myriad there’s a network of

there’s a myriad there’s a network of pipes through every city in the country

pipes through every city in the country

pipes through every city in the country that carries the natural gas line and

that carries the natural gas line and

that carries the natural gas line and this picture is from a piece of pipe

this picture is from a piece of pipe

this picture is from a piece of pipe that dates back to 1890 right so there’s

that dates back to 1890 right so there’s

that dates back to 1890 right so there’s parts of this infrastructure in this

parts of this infrastructure in this

parts of this infrastructure in this country and that are just ancient and

country and that are just ancient and

country and that are just ancient and they weak that just happens it’s a human

they weak that just happens it’s a human

they weak that just happens it’s a human system and so about the same time that I

system and so about the same time that I

system and so about the same time that I was getting interested in the natural

was getting interested in the natural

was getting interested in the natural gas leaks so were others this has become

gas leaks so were others this has become

gas leaks so were others this has become a really hot topic because methane is

a really hot topic because methane is

a really hot topic because methane is such a potent greenhouse gas

such a potent greenhouse gas

such a potent greenhouse gas and the Environmental Defense Fund which

and the Environmental Defense Fund which

and the Environmental Defense Fund which some of you may be familiar with it’s a

some of you may be familiar with it’s a

some of you may be familiar with it’s a non-governmental organization and they

non-governmental organization and they

non-governmental organization and they really they fund and organize the

really they fund and organize the

really they fund and organize the science around a number of different

science around a number of different

science around a number of different environmental concerns and one of them

environmental concerns and one of them

environmental concerns and one of them that they’re working on is is methane

that they’re working on is is methane

that they’re working on is is methane related and they sort of coordinate the

related and they sort of coordinate the

related and they sort of coordinate the science and they had a very high-level

science and they had a very high-level

science and they had a very high-level had partnered with Google to put some

had partnered with Google to put some

had partnered with Google to put some these methane analyzers like the ones I

these methane analyzers like the ones I

these methane analyzers like the ones I like to play with in the back of a

like to play with in the back of a

like to play with in the back of a Google Street View car well one thing

Google Street View car well one thing

Google Street View car well one thing led to another and they said Joe do you

led to another and they said Joe do you

led to another and they said Joe do you think you could help us figure out the

think you could help us figure out the

think you could help us figure out the science of what how you know so we have

science of what how you know so we have

science of what how you know so we have a Google Street View car and a and

a Google Street View car and a and

a Google Street View car and a and methane analyzer how could how can we do

methane analyzer how could how can we do

methane analyzer how could how can we do something with them together right I’m

something with them together right I’m

something with them together right I’m like I could yeah I could manage

like I could yeah I could manage

like I could yeah I could manage something about that and at this point I

something about that and at this point I

something about that and at this point I have a bunch of pictures of people

have a bunch of pictures of people

have a bunch of pictures of people because another part of the sort of way

because another part of the sort of way

because another part of the sort of way this whole story unfolds has to do with

this whole story unfolds has to do with

this whole story unfolds has to do with all the different kinds of expertise

all the different kinds of expertise

all the different kinds of expertise that we had to bring to bear to move

that we had to bring to bear to move

that we had to bring to bear to move this project forward and start to have

this project forward and start to have

this project forward and start to have societal impact so up on the top are

societal impact so up on the top are

societal impact so up on the top are taratata hoshi and cassie ely who work

taratata hoshi and cassie ely who work

taratata hoshi and cassie ely who work at the Environmental Defense Fund

at the Environmental Defense Fund

at the Environmental Defense Fund they’re sort of project managers and

they’re sort of project managers and

they’re sort of project managers and they sort of are responsible for for

they sort of are responsible for for

they sort of are responsible for for finding and bringing funding ends so we

finding and bringing funding ends so we

finding and bringing funding ends so we could pay and and do the science that

could pay and and do the science that

could pay and and do the science that we’re doing and to manage the sort of

we’re doing and to manage the sort of

we’re doing and to manage the sort of herd of cats it’s part of all this up on

herd of cats it’s part of all this up on

herd of cats it’s part of all this up on the upper right is Karen tux and Bettman

the upper right is Karen tux and Bettman

the upper right is Karen tux and Bettman from Google and she works with with her

from Google and she works with with her

from Google and she works with with her partners at within Google to help get

partners at within Google to help get

partners at within Google to help get the the cars going where they’re

the the cars going where they’re

the the cars going where they’re supposed to be and get this whole thing

supposed to be and get this whole thing

supposed to be and get this whole thing working and down in the bottom right or

working and down in the bottom right or

working and down in the bottom right or to people who helped earlier in this

to people who helped earlier in this

to people who helped earlier in this project Jessica Salo and Adam Gaylord

project Jessica Salo and Adam Gaylord

project Jessica Salo and Adam Gaylord and they were working with me at CSU and

and they were working with me at CSU and

and they were working with me at CSU and together we started to form this team of

together we started to form this team of

together we started to form this team of figuring out how to you know get the

figuring out how to you know get the

figuring out how to you know get the cars and when we put them and how do we

cars and when we put them and how do we

cars and when we put them and how do we do with them and who do we tell and and

do with them and who do we tell and and

do with them and who do we tell and and all that kind of stuff right okay so we

all that kind of stuff right okay so we

all that kind of stuff right okay so we finally get a couple of these Google

finally get a couple of these Google

finally get a couple of these Google Street View cars to Fort Collins and I

Street View cars to Fort Collins and I

Street View cars to Fort Collins and I developed partnerships here at CSU and

developed partnerships here at CSU and

developed partnerships here at CSU and one of the many brilliant people who

one of the many brilliant people who

one of the many brilliant people who I’ve had a chance to work with in the

I’ve had a chance to work with in the

I’ve had a chance to work with in the blue shirt is Jay ham Jay is a professor

blue shirt is Jay ham Jay is a professor

blue shirt is Jay ham Jay is a professor in of atmospheric physics here at CSU

in of atmospheric physics here at CSU

in of atmospheric physics here at CSU and he so he studies the dynamics of of

and he so he studies the dynamics of of

and he so he studies the dynamics of of air and air is a surprisingly lumpy

air and air is a surprisingly lumpy

air and air is a surprisingly lumpy material right you think of airs like

material right you think of airs like

material right you think of airs like you could just mix it like that and you

you could just mix it like that and you

you could just mix it like that and you sorta can just mix it like that but

sorta can just mix it like that but

sorta can just mix it like that but really it stays lumpy like poorly mixed

really it stays lumpy like poorly mixed

really it stays lumpy like poorly mixed pancake batter right and what we found

pancake batter right and what we found

pancake batter right and what we found is that all that sort of drop piece of

is that all that sort of drop piece of

is that all that sort of drop piece of dryer tubing in that

dryer tubing in that

dryer tubing in that actually dryer tubing we don’t need to

actually dryer tubing we don’t need to

actually dryer tubing we don’t need to be that high-tech all the time it’s

be that high-tech all the time it’s

be that high-tech all the time it’s something that we we released methane

something that we we released methane

something that we we released methane out of to simulate a natural gas leak

out of to simulate a natural gas leak

out of to simulate a natural gas leak and then that’s this is Laurel Street

and then that’s this is Laurel Street

and then that’s this is Laurel Street just in the north side of campus we have

just in the north side of campus we have

just in the north side of campus we have the Google Street View cars and we drove

the Google Street View cars and we drove

the Google Street View cars and we drove them back and forth through the plumes

them back and forth through the plumes

them back and forth through the plumes and and then we gather look at the data

and and then we gather look at the data

and and then we gather look at the data and we try to understand what is it

and we try to understand what is it

and we try to understand what is it that’s unique about a natural gas leak

that’s unique about a natural gas leak

that’s unique about a natural gas leak that when you drive through it back and

that when you drive through it back and

that when you drive through it back and forth that you can identify as sort of a

forth that you can identify as sort of a

forth that you can identify as sort of a data object how can you simplify the

data object how can you simplify the

data object how can you simplify the observation and recognize when you’re

observation and recognize when you’re

observation and recognize when you’re looking at a natural gas leak versus not

looking at a natural gas leak versus not

looking at a natural gas leak versus not so with Jay and our partners and sort of

so with Jay and our partners and sort of

so with Jay and our partners and sort of the data analysis work and a lot a lot a

the data analysis work and a lot a lot a

the data analysis work and a lot a lot a lot of Excel spreadsheets that from all

lot of Excel spreadsheets that from all

lot of Excel spreadsheets that from all the data that came out we developed

the data that came out we developed

the data that came out we developed methods to an algorithms that we call

methods to an algorithms that we call

methods to an algorithms that we call him to make him sound fancy to find the

him to make him sound fancy to find the

him to make him sound fancy to find the gas leaks to estimate the leak size to

gas leaks to estimate the leak size to

gas leaks to estimate the leak size to make sure that when we reported

make sure that when we reported

make sure that when we reported something it wasn’t a false positive

something it wasn’t a false positive

something it wasn’t a false positive some cow and to direct the drivers about

some cow and to direct the drivers about

some cow and to direct the drivers about where to go right because the drivers

where to go right because the drivers

where to go right because the drivers can’t be looking at the screen that’s

can’t be looking at the screen that’s

can’t be looking at the screen that’s kind of unsafe right and so we had to

kind of unsafe right and so we had to

kind of unsafe right and so we had to design a program so drivers could just

design a program so drivers could just

design a program so drivers could just do their driving then we would analyze

do their driving then we would analyze

do their driving then we would analyze the data later so we developed this

the data later so we developed this

the data later so we developed this algorithm and then we started to to send

algorithm and then we started to to send

algorithm and then we started to to send the cars out and one of the things that

the cars out and one of the things that

the cars out and one of the things that we quickly became overwhelmed with was

we quickly became overwhelmed with was

we quickly became overwhelmed with was data this is this shows here about a

data this is this shows here about a

data this is this shows here about a minute of data that we get so that’s

minute of data that we get so that’s

minute of data that we get so that’s 2,000 data points per minute times eight

2,000 data points per minute times eight

2,000 data points per minute times eight hours a day times three cars that is a

hours a day times three cars that is a

hours a day times three cars that is a lot of data and so even even some of our

lot of data and so even even some of our

lot of data and so even even some of our Google people were like that’s a fair

Google people were like that’s a fair

Google people were like that’s a fair amount of data I mean they it’s we’re

amount of data I mean they it’s we’re

amount of data I mean they it’s we’re not in that scale it was a lot of data

not in that scale it was a lot of data

not in that scale it was a lot of data and so another brilliant group that I

and so another brilliant group that I

and so another brilliant group that I started to work with was here in

started to work with was here in

started to work with was here in computer science at CSU sangmi Paulo

computer science at CSU sangmi Paulo

computer science at CSU sangmi Paulo kara and her team Johnson catch Johnson

kara and her team Johnson catch Johnson

kara and her team Johnson catch Johnson cachi Curran who’s a master student

cachi Curran who’s a master student

cachi Curran who’s a master student about to finish Johnson and sangmi

about to finish Johnson and sangmi

about to finish Johnson and sangmi developed that this sort of data

developed that this sort of data

developed that this sort of data framework you can imagine that’s like a

framework you can imagine that’s like a

framework you can imagine that’s like a lake of data right and you might want to

lake of data right and you might want to

lake of data right and you might want to analyze it four different times

analyze it four different times

analyze it four different times different days different sensor systems

different days different sensor systems

different days different sensor systems or different other features and in order

or different other features and in order

or different other features and in order to be able to pull the right data out to

to be able to pull the right data out to

to be able to pull the right data out to be able to analyze it to be able to turn

be able to analyze it to be able to turn

be able to analyze it to be able to turn it into a data products meaningful was a

it into a data products meaningful was a

it into a data products meaningful was a huge a huge product that we came up with

huge a huge product that we came up with

huge a huge product that we came up with so once we had the data from some nice

so once we had the data from some nice

so once we had the data from some nice computer science team then we in turn we

computer science team then we in turn we

computer science team then we in turn we had to figure out how are we going to

had to figure out how are we going to

had to figure out how are we going to affect social change with this data

affect social change with this data

affect social change with this data right one of our project goals was to

right one of our project goals was to

right one of our project goals was to publicize this data was to show people

publicize this data was to show people

publicize this data was to show people let they’re just boatloads of natural

let they’re just boatloads of natural

let they’re just boatloads of natural gas leaks that occur out there and we

gas leaks that occur out there and we

gas leaks that occur out there and we want to inform the public about it and

want to inform the public about it and

want to inform the public about it and so shown here is an EDF scientist Reiner

so shown here is an EDF scientist Reiner

so shown here is an EDF scientist Reiner Romero and Reiner is actually a social

Romero and Reiner is actually a social

Romero and Reiner is actually a social psychologist and what he did was he

psychologist and what he did was he

psychologist and what he did was he conducted sort of social experiments

conducted sort of social experiments

conducted sort of social experiments about how you visualize how do you

about how you visualize how do you

about how you visualize how do you represent the data we collected and

represent the data we collected and

represent the data we collected and after a number of tests Reiner was able

after a number of tests Reiner was able

after a number of tests Reiner was able to develop maps like we show in the in

to develop maps like we show in the in

to develop maps like we show in the in the upper left those yellow each of

the upper left those yellow each of

the upper left those yellow each of those yellow dots is a small natural gas

those yellow dots is a small natural gas

those yellow dots is a small natural gas leaks the orange ones are medium the

leaks the orange ones are medium the

leaks the orange ones are medium the large ones are red with you know high

large ones are red with you know high

large ones are red with you know high emission rate and the blue shows all the

emission rate and the blue shows all the

emission rate and the blue shows all the roads that we drove on the white roads

roads that we drove on the white roads

roads that we drove on the white roads we didn’t drive on so we have now a way

we didn’t drive on so we have now a way

we didn’t drive on so we have now a way to illustrate this and then we set up a

to illustrate this and then we set up a

to illustrate this and then we set up a the environmental effects fund we worked

the environmental effects fund we worked

the environmental effects fund we worked on a webpage to illustrate this if you

on a webpage to illustrate this if you

on a webpage to illustrate this if you do a Google search or Yahoo or whatever

do a Google search or Yahoo or whatever

do a Google search or Yahoo or whatever search engine you want to use for EDF

search engine you want to use for EDF

search engine you want to use for EDF methane maps you can bring this up and

methane maps you can bring this up and

methane maps you can bring this up and you can browse through it and you can

you can browse through it and you can

you can browse through it and you can see that there are lots of leaks and

see that there are lots of leaks and

see that there are lots of leaks and subsidies and fewer leaks in other

subsidies and fewer leaks in other

subsidies and fewer leaks in other cities we could show where they are was

cities we could show where they are was

cities we could show where they are was shown with the patterns are so now we

shown with the patterns are so now we

shown with the patterns are so now we have have a mechanism for public

have have a mechanism for public

have have a mechanism for public awareness of this and then the next

awareness of this and then the next

awareness of this and then the next phase is to do on a much larger scale

phase is to do on a much larger scale

phase is to do on a much larger scale what I did when I drove to a company and

what I did when I drove to a company and

what I did when I drove to a company and said hey there’s a lot of methane coming

said hey there’s a lot of methane coming

said hey there’s a lot of methane coming out working with the utilities what

out working with the utilities what

out working with the utilities what happens is that these these leaks when

happens is that these these leaks when

happens is that these these leaks when when the utilities discover that there’s

when the utilities discover that there’s

when the utilities discover that there’s a natural gas leak in their system they

a natural gas leak in their system they

a natural gas leak in their system they go out and investigate it which is what

go out and investigate it which is what

go out and investigate it which is what they should they should do and it is

they should they should do and it is

they should they should do and it is what they do and if there’s um if

what they do and if there’s um if

what they do and if there’s um if there’s a risk that this leaking gas

there’s a risk that this leaking gas

there’s a risk that this leaking gas might enter an enclosed space like a

might enter an enclosed space like a

might enter an enclosed space like a building or something like that then

building or something like that then

building or something like that then they dig a hole and they get to the

they dig a hole and they get to the

they dig a hole and they get to the bottom and then they fix it but a really

bottom and then they fix it but a really

bottom and then they fix it but a really large number of these leaks happen in

large number of these leaks happen in

large number of these leaks happen in the middle of the street the gas goes

the middle of the street the gas goes

the middle of the street the gas goes straight up and out into the air and

straight up and out into the air and

straight up and out into the air and these are classified as non hazardous

these are classified as non hazardous

these are classified as non hazardous leaks and non hazardous leaks aren’t

leaks and non hazardous leaks aren’t

leaks and non hazardous leaks aren’t required to be repaired they just sit

required to be repaired they just sit

required to be repaired they just sit there and fizz now the what we

there and fizz now the what we

there and fizz now the what we discovered is that there are a lot of

discovered is that there are a lot of

discovered is that there are a lot of leaks out there that are allowed to fizz

leaks out there that are allowed to fizz

leaks out there that are allowed to fizz and and that some of them are quite

and and that some of them are quite

and and that some of them are quite large and so we wanted to work with

large and so we wanted to work with

large and so we wanted to work with these utilities to reduce the emissions

these utilities to reduce the emissions

these utilities to reduce the emissions so what we did was we developed actually

so what we did was we developed actually

so what we did was we developed actually quite a number of successful friendly

quite a number of successful friendly

quite a number of successful friendly cooperative relationships with utilities

cooperative relationships with utilities

cooperative relationships with utilities where

where

where we worked within this sort of complex

we worked within this sort of complex

we worked within this sort of complex highly regulated framework and we

highly regulated framework and we

highly regulated framework and we brought in a team of really brilliant

brought in a team of really brilliant

brought in a team of really brilliant friendly smart lawyers who were looking

friendly smart lawyers who were looking

friendly smart lawyers who were looking into I’m not trying to say that as a

into I’m not trying to say that as a

into I’m not trying to say that as a surprise I mean I’ve never I mean

surprise I mean I’ve never I mean

surprise I mean I’ve never I mean scientists right and so to come to this

scientists right and so to come to this

scientists right and so to come to this point where I’m working regularly with

point where I’m working regularly with

point where I’m working regularly with attorneys who do natural gas law is just

attorneys who do natural gas law is just

attorneys who do natural gas law is just that is like moving to another planet

that is like moving to another planet

that is like moving to another planet and it’s been a fascinating experience

and it’s been a fascinating experience

and it’s been a fascinating experience so we developed these cooperative

so we developed these cooperative

so we developed these cooperative relationships our attorneys helped us

relationships our attorneys helped us

relationships our attorneys helped us figure out at what point in the sort of

figure out at what point in the sort of

figure out at what point in the sort of legal process that we might introduce

legal process that we might introduce

legal process that we might introduce this information that hey you know you

this information that hey you know you

this information that hey you know you could use some information about leak

could use some information about leak

could use some information about leak size and maybe try to find a win-win way

size and maybe try to find a win-win way

size and maybe try to find a win-win way to reduce emissions and so that’s what

to reduce emissions and so that’s what

to reduce emissions and so that’s what we did in in a huge initiative this

we did in in a huge initiative this

we did in in a huge initiative this utility in New Jersey was going to spend

utility in New Jersey was going to spend

utility in New Jersey was going to spend nine hundred million dollars million

nine hundred million dollars million

nine hundred million dollars million dollars that’s a lot of money and and so

dollars that’s a lot of money and and so

dollars that’s a lot of money and and so we had a chance to work cooperatively

we had a chance to work cooperatively

we had a chance to work cooperatively with a utility the utility said okay

with a utility the utility said okay

with a utility the utility said okay here’s like twenty five areas not all

here’s like twenty five areas not all

here’s like twenty five areas not all areas shown where we are going to be

areas shown where we are going to be

areas shown where we are going to be doing some pipeline replacement why

doing some pipeline replacement why

doing some pipeline replacement why don’t you ETF Google guys go out there

don’t you ETF Google guys go out there

don’t you ETF Google guys go out there and map these areas and tell us which

and map these areas and tell us which

and map these areas and tell us which ones are the leakiest and then we’ll go

ones are the leakiest and then we’ll go

ones are the leakiest and then we’ll go and start and fix those and that’s what

and start and fix those and that’s what

and start and fix those and that’s what we did we actually were able to identify

we did we actually were able to identify

we did we actually were able to identify the leakiest parts of their system they

the leakiest parts of their system they

the leakiest parts of their system they were going to do some repair of their

were going to do some repair of their

were going to do some repair of their you know 1890s era gas lines anyway and

you know 1890s era gas lines anyway and

you know 1890s era gas lines anyway and we were able to direct that and to me

we were able to direct that and to me

we were able to direct that and to me that’s a total win-win success right

that’s a total win-win success right

that’s a total win-win success right that we’re able to say okay given you’re

that we’re able to say okay given you’re

that we’re able to say okay given you’re gonna do this anyway how can we make

gonna do this anyway how can we make

gonna do this anyway how can we make this a cost-effective sort of

this a cost-effective sort of

this a cost-effective sort of coordinated effort where everyone comes

coordinated effort where everyone comes

coordinated effort where everyone comes out ahead and so helping us in this I’d

out ahead and so helping us in this I’d

out ahead and so helping us in this I’d like to show pictures of the people

like to show pictures of the people

like to show pictures of the people because for me the people and developing

because for me the people and developing

because for me the people and developing these successful teams is a big part of

these successful teams is a big part of

these successful teams is a big part of what’s worth sharing so on the top is

what’s worth sharing so on the top is

what’s worth sharing so on the top is Mary Goethe who used to be an EPA

Mary Goethe who used to be an EPA

Mary Goethe who used to be an EPA Administrator for the Chicago region

Administrator for the Chicago region

Administrator for the Chicago region attorneys to me George with the

attorneys to me George with the

attorneys to me George with the Environmental Defense Fund and a data

Environmental Defense Fund and a data

Environmental Defense Fund and a data analyst Virginia Palacios so the three

analyst Virginia Palacios so the three

analyst Virginia Palacios so the three of us well enough to three of us but the

of us well enough to three of us but the

of us well enough to three of us but the are growing progressively growing team

are growing progressively growing team

are growing progressively growing team work together to execute what I think is

work together to execute what I think is

work together to execute what I think is a real success story where we’re

a real success story where we’re

a real success story where we’re starting to impact emissions from cities

starting to impact emissions from cities

starting to impact emissions from cities so as we as we try to generalize about

so as we as we try to generalize about

so as we as we try to generalize about what is happening next if there’s an

what is happening next if there’s an

what is happening next if there’s an environmental hazard like a tiger or a

environmental hazard like a tiger or a

environmental hazard like a tiger or a rattlesnake in this room right we

rattlesnake in this room right we

rattlesnake in this room right we know what to do it’s as part of there

know what to do it’s as part of there

know what to do it’s as part of there have been a lot of unsuccessful escapes

have been a lot of unsuccessful escapes

have been a lot of unsuccessful escapes from Tigers and rattlesnakes that have

from Tigers and rattlesnakes that have

from Tigers and rattlesnakes that have led to the gene pool that we see around

led to the gene pool that we see around

led to the gene pool that we see around us today and so so there are sort of

us today and so so there are sort of

us today and so so there are sort of social systems in place for detecting

social systems in place for detecting

social systems in place for detecting communicating about and and dealing with

communicating about and and dealing with

communicating about and and dealing with environmental hazards and I think in

environmental hazards and I think in

environmental hazards and I think in this day and age what we’re facing are

this day and age what we’re facing are

this day and age what we’re facing are new types of environmental hazards up in

new types of environmental hazards up in

new types of environmental hazards up in the upper right panel I show a picture

the upper right panel I show a picture

the upper right panel I show a picture of an a massive natural gas leak that

of an a massive natural gas leak that

of an a massive natural gas leak that was happening in Southern California in

was happening in Southern California in

was happening in Southern California in the Porter Ranch community you may have

the Porter Ranch community you may have

the Porter Ranch community you may have heard about it this picture is taken in

heard about it this picture is taken in

heard about it this picture is taken in that infrared spectrum where those

that infrared spectrum where those

that infrared spectrum where those lasers work right these sort of photos

lasers work right these sort of photos

lasers work right these sort of photos only really worked with massive national

only really worked with massive national

only really worked with massive national gas leaks you can’t really use them for

gas leaks you can’t really use them for

gas leaks you can’t really use them for the types of the smaller ones that we

the types of the smaller ones that we

the types of the smaller ones that we measure in cities but still what I’m

measure in cities but still what I’m

measure in cities but still what I’m trying to say is that visualization and

trying to say is that visualization and

trying to say is that visualization and management of these types of

management of these types of

management of these types of environmental hazards is something that

environmental hazards is something that

environmental hazards is something that we need to be more aware of as a society

we need to be more aware of as a society

we need to be more aware of as a society and so as we think about the role of

and so as we think about the role of

and so as we think about the role of science and technological development

science and technological development

science and technological development and the way that science moves forward

and the way that science moves forward

and the way that science moves forward you just throw a pebble in a pond by

you just throw a pebble in a pond by

you just throw a pebble in a pond by putting a methane sensor in a Google

putting a methane sensor in a Google

putting a methane sensor in a Google Street View car but what you’re really

Street View car but what you’re really

Street View car but what you’re really doing is seeing the beginning of a

doing is seeing the beginning of a

doing is seeing the beginning of a technological change that has the

technological change that has the

technological change that has the potential to really alter the way that

potential to really alter the way that

potential to really alter the way that we as a society we as scientists we as

we as a society we as scientists we as

we as a society we as scientists we as come corporate owners we as donors start

come corporate owners we as donors start

come corporate owners we as donors start to work together to to improve

to work together to to improve

to work together to to improve environmental quality and so if you’re

environmental quality and so if you’re

environmental quality and so if you’re out there and you’re part of society

out there and you’re part of society

out there and you’re part of society which most of you are I think then you’d

which most of you are I think then you’d

which most of you are I think then you’d be thinking about how can I gather

be thinking about how can I gather

be thinking about how can I gather information about about environmental

information about about environmental

information about about environmental hazards and what that means to me and

hazards and what that means to me and

hazards and what that means to me and what companies and or politic political

what companies and or politic political

what companies and or politic political organizations who I want to support to

organizations who I want to support to

organizations who I want to support to affect these changes if you are part of

affect these changes if you are part of

affect these changes if you are part of a company if you are potential polluter

a company if you are potential polluter

a company if you are potential polluter you should be aware that there are sort

you should be aware that there are sort

you should be aware that there are sort of environmental organizations out there

of environmental organizations out there

of environmental organizations out there they’re seeking win-win solutions if

they’re seeking win-win solutions if

they’re seeking win-win solutions if you’re a student and you’re out there

you’re a student and you’re out there

you’re a student and you’re out there you should be thinking that the sort of

you should be thinking that the sort of

you should be thinking that the sort of training that you need to be part of as

training that you need to be part of as

training that you need to be part of as part of a scientists in society is far

part of a scientists in society is far

part of a scientists in society is far broader than you might have ever thought

broader than you might have ever thought

broader than you might have ever thought of before thanks for your time

of before thanks for your time

of before thanks for your time [Applause]

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