good afternoon Brighton how is everyone today I’m gonna need a little bit more
today I’m gonna need a little bit more
today I’m gonna need a little bit more energy how is everyone this afternoon
energy how is everyone this afternoon
energy how is everyone this afternoon there we go
there we go
there we go have you been enjoying yourself alright
have you been enjoying yourself alright
have you been enjoying yourself alright brilliant so my name is Whitney Isles I
brilliant so my name is Whitney Isles I
brilliant so my name is Whitney Isles I run an organization called Project 507
run an organization called Project 507
run an organization called Project 507 and we work around violence and we do a
and we work around violence and we do a
and we work around violence and we do a lot of different types of violence
lot of different types of violence
lot of different types of violence reduction in the community and also in
reduction in the community and also in
reduction in the community and also in the prison setting and it’s something
the prison setting and it’s something
the prison setting and it’s something that I’ve grown to really love and
that I’ve grown to really love and
that I’ve grown to really love and really want some more systemic change
really want some more systemic change
really want some more systemic change and a couple months ago when Toby gave
and a couple months ago when Toby gave
and a couple months ago when Toby gave me a call well he gave me a tweet first
me a call well he gave me a tweet first
me a call well he gave me a tweet first and he said hey I’ve seen your first
and he said hey I’ve seen your first
and he said hey I’ve seen your first TEDx really want you to come and do TEDx
TEDx really want you to come and do TEDx
TEDx really want you to come and do TEDx Brighton and I was like wow didn’t even
Brighton and I was like wow didn’t even
Brighton and I was like wow didn’t even know you could do – so hey wicked
know you could do – so hey wicked
know you could do – so hey wicked brilliant I’m there and he said well
brilliant I’m there and he said well
brilliant I’m there and he said well what would you want to speak about and I
what would you want to speak about and I
what would you want to speak about and I was like well prisons prisons yes
was like well prisons prisons yes
was like well prisons prisons yes prisons and the greater good and in my
prisons and the greater good and in my
prisons and the greater good and in my head I had this really amazing idea of
head I had this really amazing idea of
head I had this really amazing idea of how I was going to impress you all with
how I was going to impress you all with
how I was going to impress you all with all this you know brilliant theory I was
all this you know brilliant theory I was
all this you know brilliant theory I was gonna go into the history of it and I
gonna go into the history of it and I
gonna go into the history of it and I was gonna look at the greater good and
was gonna look at the greater good and
was gonna look at the greater good and where the greater good came from and
where the greater good came from and
where the greater good came from and look at moral law and it was gonna be
look at moral law and it was gonna be
look at moral law and it was gonna be amazing it really was and then I
amazing it really was and then I
amazing it really was and then I remembered that I run a company that
remembered that I run a company that
remembered that I run a company that deals with violence and that I rarely
deals with violence and that I rarely
deals with violence and that I rarely get a moment to myself so Plan B was I’m
get a moment to myself so Plan B was I’m
get a moment to myself so Plan B was I’m gonna go onto YouTube and I’m gonna look
gonna go onto YouTube and I’m gonna look
gonna go onto YouTube and I’m gonna look at all the different TED talks around
at all the different TED talks around
at all the different TED talks around prison on page six of the search engine
prison on page six of the search engine
prison on page six of the search engine I realize that wanting to watch all the
I realize that wanting to watch all the
I realize that wanting to watch all the other prison all the other TED Talks
other prison all the other TED Talks
other prison all the other TED Talks around prison was not the greatest idea
around prison was not the greatest idea
around prison was not the greatest idea first of all I probably wouldn’t have
first of all I probably wouldn’t have
first of all I probably wouldn’t have got through it or in the at the time
got through it or in the at the time
got through it or in the at the time allocated and second of all I became
allocated and second of all I became
allocated and second of all I became very kind of insecure about what I was
very kind of insecure about what I was
very kind of insecure about what I was gonna speak about because guess what
gonna speak about because guess what
gonna speak about because guess what every single thing that I wanted to talk
every single thing that I wanted to talk
every single thing that I wanted to talk about had already been spoken about but
about had already been spoken about but
about had already been spoken about but then this interested me some more
then this interested me some more
then this interested me some more because then I was thinking hang on a
because then I was thinking hang on a
because then I was thinking hang on a minute is 2016 we kind of know the
minute is 2016 we kind of know the
minute is 2016 we kind of know the prison system isn’t really working the
prison system isn’t really working the
prison system isn’t really working the way that we need it to we know this we
way that we need it to we know this we
way that we need it to we know this we have all the information that tells us
have all the information that tells us
have all the information that tells us this and not only that
this and not only that
this and not only that we also have a lot of really amazing
we also have a lot of really amazing
we also have a lot of really amazing solutions from all over the world I
solutions from all over the world I
solutions from all over the world I think it was the Netherlands I was
think it was the Netherlands I was
think it was the Netherlands I was looking at the other day that are
looking at the other day that are
looking at the other day that are actually closing down prisons because
actually closing down prisons because
actually closing down prisons because they don’t have enough criminals Wow
they don’t have enough criminals Wow
they don’t have enough criminals Wow wicked brilliant so then I came across
wicked brilliant so then I came across
wicked brilliant so then I came across this quote and it might be a little bit
this quote and it might be a little bit
this quote and it might be a little bit wrong because I am from the Instagram
wrong because I am from the Instagram
wrong because I am from the Instagram kind of generation where the courts just
kind of generation where the courts just
kind of generation where the courts just go up and you don’t really check them
go up and you don’t really check them
go up and you don’t really check them you just say sounds good works for me
you just say sounds good works for me
you just say sounds good works for me it’s working for the presentation today
but it really hit a nerve with me
but it really hit a nerve with me because I do a lot of work in the
because I do a lot of work in the
because I do a lot of work in the prisons and I also do a lot of work in
prisons and I also do a lot of work in
prisons and I also do a lot of work in Parliament and with the MOJ in norms and
Parliament and with the MOJ in norms and
Parliament and with the MOJ in norms and there’s some really fantastic people
there’s some really fantastic people
there’s some really fantastic people behind the scenes doing some work to see
behind the scenes doing some work to see
behind the scenes doing some work to see if we can really make some real systemic
if we can really make some real systemic
if we can really make some real systemic changes to make our whole lives better
changes to make our whole lives better
changes to make our whole lives better and it says we cannot solve our problems
and it says we cannot solve our problems
and it says we cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we
with the same thinking we used when we
with the same thinking we used when we created them and it made so much sense
created them and it made so much sense
created them and it made so much sense to me something just clicked because
to me something just clicked because
to me something just clicked because everything about prison is punishment
everything about prison is punishment
everything about prison is punishment and security so a lot of other changes
and security so a lot of other changes
and security so a lot of other changes that are being made still have to go in
that are being made still have to go in
that are being made still have to go in line with punishment and security and
line with punishment and security and
line with punishment and security and yes security is a big deal I’m not
yes security is a big deal I’m not
yes security is a big deal I’m not saying that we don’t need it I’m not
saying that we don’t need it I’m not
saying that we don’t need it I’m not saying there there aren’t people that do
saying there there aren’t people that do
saying there there aren’t people that do need to be kept away for a little bit
need to be kept away for a little bit
need to be kept away for a little bit but then I thought what if we changed
but then I thought what if we changed
but then I thought what if we changed our thinking around this because it
our thinking around this because it
our thinking around this because it cannot just come from the prison system
cannot just come from the prison system
cannot just come from the prison system it has to come from all of us all of us
it has to come from all of us all of us
it has to come from all of us all of us needs to start thinking a little bit
needs to start thinking a little bit
needs to start thinking a little bit different and I tell you why about a
different and I tell you why about a
different and I tell you why about a month ago I was sitting down with one of
month ago I was sitting down with one of
month ago I was sitting down with one of the heads of the parole board and I was
the heads of the parole board and I was
the heads of the parole board and I was talking about sentencing and I said I’ve
talking about sentencing and I said I’ve
talking about sentencing and I said I’ve got so many amazing young men that have
got so many amazing young men that have
got so many amazing young men that have been completely rehabilitated and that
been completely rehabilitated and that
been completely rehabilitated and that should be out in the community they
should be out in the community they
should be out in the community they actually have jobs waiting for them but
actually have jobs waiting for them but
actually have jobs waiting for them but they still have another year year and a
they still have another year year and a
they still have another year year and a half two years left of their sentence
half two years left of their sentence
half two years left of their sentence and that’s 40,000 pounds a year for them
and that’s 40,000 pounds a year for them
and that’s 40,000 pounds a year for them to sit and wait to get back out into the
to sit and wait to get back out into the
to sit and wait to get back out into the community and he said wait this is a
community and he said wait this is a
community and he said wait this is a really great idea and there’s a lot of
really great idea and there’s a lot of
really great idea and there’s a lot of people having these really good ideas
people having these really good ideas
people having these really good ideas the problem
the problem
the problem is the current political climate the way
is the current political climate the way
is the current political climate the way that the public perceives offending and
that the public perceives offending and
that the public perceives offending and prisons and what needs to be done will
prisons and what needs to be done will
prisons and what needs to be done will not accept these changes quickly and
not accept these changes quickly and
not accept these changes quickly and that hurt because this is my world this
that hurt because this is my world this
that hurt because this is my world this is where I spend most of my days with my
is where I spend most of my days with my
is where I spend most of my days with my team and we work with those young men
team and we work with those young men
team and we work with those young men and young women normally under the age
and young women normally under the age
and young women normally under the age of 25 in various different prisons
of 25 in various different prisons
of 25 in various different prisons across the UK and every single one of
across the UK and every single one of
across the UK and every single one of these young people have a story and we
these young people have a story and we
these young people have a story and we work with the more what would be
work with the more what would be
work with the more what would be considered the more high-risk the more
considered the more high-risk the more
considered the more high-risk the more violent the ones that are in prison
violent the ones that are in prison
violent the ones that are in prison being violent but when we break down
being violent but when we break down
being violent but when we break down those stories these are young people
those stories these are young people
those stories these are young people that are dealing with trauma they’re
that are dealing with trauma they’re
that are dealing with trauma they’re dealing with pain they’re dealing with
dealing with pain they’re dealing with
dealing with pain they’re dealing with flashbacks they’re dealing with
flashbacks they’re dealing with
flashbacks they’re dealing with nightmares they’re dealing with the fact
nightmares they’re dealing with the fact
nightmares they’re dealing with the fact that they watch their mother get beaten
that they watch their mother get beaten
that they watch their mother get beaten up when they were four they’re dealing
up when they were four they’re dealing
up when they were four they’re dealing with the fact that they’ve been sexually
with the fact that they’ve been sexually
with the fact that they’ve been sexually abused and never told us all they’re
abused and never told us all they’re
abused and never told us all they’re dealing with the fact that they’ve got
dealing with the fact that they’ve got
dealing with the fact that they’ve got multiple multiple family members dying
multiple multiple family members dying
multiple multiple family members dying of cancer and they’re not allowed to go
of cancer and they’re not allowed to go
of cancer and they’re not allowed to go to funerals because it’s considered too
to funerals because it’s considered too
to funerals because it’s considered too high-risk
high-risk
high-risk and they’re sitting in these cells and
and they’re sitting in these cells and
and they’re sitting in these cells and sometimes they’re sitting in sales for
sometimes they’re sitting in sales for
sometimes they’re sitting in sales for twenty three and a half hours a day with
twenty three and a half hours a day with
twenty three and a half hours a day with no TV no radio and just all their
no TV no radio and just all their
no TV no radio and just all their thoughts in their head and it’s Hertz
thoughts in their head and it’s Hertz
thoughts in their head and it’s Hertz and year sometimes prison can be a bit
and year sometimes prison can be a bit
and year sometimes prison can be a bit like a youth center here there’s pool
like a youth center here there’s pool
like a youth center here there’s pool tables there’s play stations and yes
tables there’s play stations and yes
tables there’s play stations and yes sometimes it can be really really
sometimes it can be really really
sometimes it can be really really violent and people get killed and people
violent and people get killed and people
violent and people get killed and people kill themselves and those are the two
kill themselves and those are the two
kill themselves and those are the two extremes that we’re shown in the
extremes that we’re shown in the
extremes that we’re shown in the newspapers and the media and I think we
newspapers and the media and I think we
newspapers and the media and I think we do need to be aware of that but we also
do need to be aware of that but we also
do need to be aware of that but we also need to be aware of all the journeys
need to be aware of all the journeys
need to be aware of all the journeys that are happening in between and all
that are happening in between and all
that are happening in between and all the things that these people are dealing
the things that these people are dealing
the things that these people are dealing with on a day to day basis the fact that
with on a day to day basis the fact that
with on a day to day basis the fact that phone credit is still so high in prison
phone credit is still so high in prison
phone credit is still so high in prison and you’re looking at having to spend 15
and you’re looking at having to spend 15
and you’re looking at having to spend 15 pound a week just to have around 30 40
pound a week just to have around 30 40
pound a week just to have around 30 40 minutes
minutes
minutes can see loved ones went out on the roads
can see loved ones went out on the roads
can see loved ones went out on the roads you can spend twenty twenty pound a
you can spend twenty twenty pound a
you can spend twenty twenty pound a month and get unlimited calls so once
month and get unlimited calls so once
month and get unlimited calls so once these young people are in the system
these young people are in the system
these young people are in the system they’re pretty much stuck in the system
they’re pretty much stuck in the system
they’re pretty much stuck in the system to fend for themselves and yes there was
to fend for themselves and yes there was
to fend for themselves and yes there was there was so much progress being made
there was so much progress being made
there was so much progress being made but there is still so much more to be
but there is still so much more to be
but there is still so much more to be done so one of the things that I want
done so one of the things that I want
done so one of the things that I want everyone to start thinking about
everyone to start thinking about
everyone to start thinking about different imagine if we really thought
different imagine if we really thought
different imagine if we really thought about violence as a public health issue
about violence as a public health issue
about violence as a public health issue imagine if we took the punishment
imagine if we took the punishment
imagine if we took the punishment element away from prisons and we started
element away from prisons and we started
element away from prisons and we started thinking what if we did physiotherapy
thinking what if we did physiotherapy
thinking what if we did physiotherapy for the mind and we had individualized
for the mind and we had individualized
for the mind and we had individualized plans that were looking at healing
plans that were looking at healing
plans that were looking at healing because these people in prisons need
because these people in prisons need
because these people in prisons need healing they don’t need more punishment
healing they don’t need more punishment
healing they don’t need more punishment the prison is punishment enough
but for these young people and for
but for these young people and for everyone in general to get their healing
everyone in general to get their healing
everyone in general to get their healing we need to be more concerned about them
we need to be more concerned about them
we need to be more concerned about them because once you sit there and you speak
because once you sit there and you speak
because once you sit there and you speak and you listen and I spend all my days
and you listen and I spend all my days
and you listen and I spend all my days listening to stories you understand that
listening to stories you understand that
listening to stories you understand that actually a lot of these people are the
actually a lot of these people are the
actually a lot of these people are the ones we let down the ones that slip
ones we let down the ones that slip
ones we let down the ones that slip through the different services if you’re
through the different services if you’re
through the different services if you’re in care you’re more likely to end up in
in care you’re more likely to end up in
in care you’re more likely to end up in prison that doesn’t make sense to me so
prison that doesn’t make sense to me so
prison that doesn’t make sense to me so today I wanted to use this platform as a
today I wanted to use this platform as a
today I wanted to use this platform as a way to get the general public thinking a
way to get the general public thinking a
way to get the general public thinking a little bit more about prisons and about
little bit more about prisons and about
little bit more about prisons and about the people in prisons because they are
the people in prisons because they are
the people in prisons because they are people and yes there will always be the
people and yes there will always be the
people and yes there will always be the small minority that have some real
small minority that have some real
small minority that have some real complex hard issues and they might need
complex hard issues and they might need
complex hard issues and they might need to be sent away for a very long time but
to be sent away for a very long time but
to be sent away for a very long time but the majority of the people that I come
the majority of the people that I come
the majority of the people that I come in contact with on a day-to-day basis
in contact with on a day-to-day basis
in contact with on a day-to-day basis are people that are searching for
are people that are searching for
are people that are searching for healing they’re searching for a space to
healing they’re searching for a space to
healing they’re searching for a space to grow and to be better and they are
grow and to be better and they are
grow and to be better and they are scared they are terrified to come back
scared they are terrified to come back
scared they are terrified to come back out and face you and face the world and
out and face you and face the world and
out and face you and face the world and face the judgments and there’s a few
face the judgments and there’s a few
face the judgments and there’s a few things we’ve been working on recently
things we’ve been working on recently
things we’ve been working on recently which I just want to show and give some
which I just want to show and give some
which I just want to show and give some attention
attention
attention – because I feel that they’re still
– because I feel that they’re still
– because I feel that they’re still really valid issues in 2016 in fact I
really valid issues in 2016 in fact I
really valid issues in 2016 in fact I can’t believe in 2016 we have these
can’t believe in 2016 we have these
can’t believe in 2016 we have these issues the first one is the young review
issues the first one is the young review
issues the first one is the young review and there’s so many different reviews
and there’s so many different reviews
and there’s so many different reviews coming out now there’s a Charlie Taylor
coming out now there’s a Charlie Taylor
coming out now there’s a Charlie Taylor review there’s a David Lammy review
review there’s a David Lammy review
review there’s a David Lammy review which is coming out next month and they
which is coming out next month and they
which is coming out next month and they all highlight issues which we feel like
all highlight issues which we feel like
all highlight issues which we feel like we should have been dealing with already
we should have been dealing with already
we should have been dealing with already we feel like they should not be an issue
we feel like they should not be an issue
we feel like they should not be an issue anymore the fact that there’s over 43%
anymore the fact that there’s over 43%
anymore the fact that there’s over 43% of young people so under 18 in the
of young people so under 18 in the
of young people so under 18 in the prison system right now of black and
prison system right now of black and
prison system right now of black and ethnic minorities that is a huge
ethnic minorities that is a huge
ethnic minorities that is a huge disproportionality compared to how many
disproportionality compared to how many
disproportionality compared to how many there are young people in the
there are young people in the
there are young people in the communities right now of BMI backgrounds
communities right now of BMI backgrounds
communities right now of BMI backgrounds there’s still so much more that we need
there’s still so much more that we need
there’s still so much more that we need to need to be doing in regards of race
to need to be doing in regards of race
to need to be doing in regards of race and putting race back on the agenda in
and putting race back on the agenda in
and putting race back on the agenda in our criminal justice system
giant Enterprise you might have seen
giant Enterprise you might have seen giant enterprise on the news so it’s a
giant enterprise on the news so it’s a
giant enterprise on the news so it’s a big topic and there was changes earlier
big topic and there was changes earlier
big topic and there was changes earlier on in this year and if anyone gets a
on in this year and if anyone gets a
on in this year and if anyone gets a chance I’d highly recommend that you go
chance I’d highly recommend that you go
chance I’d highly recommend that you go and have a look at the charity Jenga
and have a look at the charity Jenga
and have a look at the charity Jenga because they are some amazing moms that
because they are some amazing moms that
because they are some amazing moms that are really put in their life and well
are really put in their life and well
are really put in their life and well they’re really putting their life on
they’re really putting their life on
they’re really putting their life on hold to save their children now joint
hold to save their children now joint
hold to save their children now joint enterprise means that if we’re all out
enterprise means that if we’re all out
enterprise means that if we’re all out together and we’re in a club or we’re
together and we’re in a club or we’re
together and we’re in a club or we’re out with our friends
out with our friends
out with our friends and I do something wrong if you didn’t
and I do something wrong if you didn’t
and I do something wrong if you didn’t stop me you can go down for the same
stop me you can go down for the same
stop me you can go down for the same crime I did we have 15 year olds there
crime I did we have 15 year olds there
crime I did we have 15 year olds there at the time of an offense were legally
at the time of an offense were legally
at the time of an offense were legally blind doing a life sentence for murder
blind doing a life sentence for murder
blind doing a life sentence for murder because one of their friends decided to
because one of their friends decided to
because one of their friends decided to hit another man and murder is wrong on
hit another man and murder is wrong on
hit another man and murder is wrong on all cases I’m not saying that we need to
all cases I’m not saying that we need to
all cases I’m not saying that we need to be any more leading on that but if
be any more leading on that but if
be any more leading on that but if there’s children that are present or not
there’s children that are present or not
there’s children that are present or not even around and they can still get 20 25
even around and they can still get 20 25
even around and they can still get 20 25 30 year sentences I don’t understand why
30 year sentences I don’t understand why
30 year sentences I don’t understand why we’re not doing more about that I have
we’re not doing more about that I have
we’re not doing more about that I have young men that I’m working with doing 34
young men that I’m working with doing 34
young men that I’m working with doing 34 years that means they have to do their
years that means they have to do their
years that means they have to do their 34 years before they can come home for
34 years before they can come home for
34 years before they can come home for murders that they didn’t even commit and
murders that they didn’t even commit and
murders that they didn’t even commit and once you start understanding trauma and
once you start understanding trauma and
once you start understanding trauma and behavioral change you understand that
behavioral change you understand that
behavioral change you understand that today it’s easy for someone who’s
today it’s easy for someone who’s
today it’s easy for someone who’s suffering from post-traumatic stress to
suffering from post-traumatic stress to
suffering from post-traumatic stress to stand there and watch when something’s
stand there and watch when something’s
stand there and watch when something’s happening because they were in
happening because they were in
happening because they were in fight-or-flight and there’s a lot of
fight-or-flight and there’s a lot of
fight-or-flight and there’s a lot of these injustice is still happening
these injustice is still happening
these injustice is still happening within our system IPP imprisonment for
within our system IPP imprisonment for
within our system IPP imprisonment for public protection this was abolished in
public protection this was abolished in
public protection this was abolished in 2012 you cannot be sent to prison on an
2012 you cannot be sent to prison on an
2012 you cannot be sent to prison on an IPP anymore yet we still have 4,000
IPP anymore yet we still have 4,000
IPP anymore yet we still have 4,000 prisoners in our system that can’t come
prisoners in our system that can’t come
prisoners in our system that can’t come home and they started prison prison
home and they started prison prison
home and they started prison prison sentence during one year two years and
sentence during one year two years and
sentence during one year two years and now we’re doing 10 years 15 years and
now we’re doing 10 years 15 years and
now we’re doing 10 years 15 years and for me one of the worst things that we
for me one of the worst things that we
for me one of the worst things that we could do to a person is to take away all
could do to a person is to take away all
could do to a person is to take away all their hope and it’s very very small
their hope and it’s very very small
their hope and it’s very very small things that are preventing these things
things that are preventing these things
things that are preventing these things from moving forward the IPPS and I’ll
from moving forward the IPPS and I’ll
from moving forward the IPPS and I’ll probably get myself in trouble next week
probably get myself in trouble next week
probably get myself in trouble next week when I go with a head office but the
when I go with a head office but the
when I go with a head office but the IPPS and the joint enterprises they are
IPPS and the joint enterprises they are
IPPS and the joint enterprises they are down to public perceptions we’re only
down to public perceptions we’re only
down to public perceptions we’re only gonna get changes in the system when the
gonna get changes in the system when the
gonna get changes in the system when the public actually stands I’m gonna go all
public actually stands I’m gonna go all
public actually stands I’m gonna go all this is a bit wrong this doesn’t feel
this is a bit wrong this doesn’t feel
this is a bit wrong this doesn’t feel right and we it’s not necessarily we’re
right and we it’s not necessarily we’re
right and we it’s not necessarily we’re saying let everyone out but let’s think
saying let everyone out but let’s think
saying let everyone out but let’s think about things slightly differently
about things slightly differently
about things slightly differently because why are 4,000 people still in
because why are 4,000 people still in
because why are 4,000 people still in prison or over I think a lot of them are
prison or over I think a lot of them are
prison or over I think a lot of them are five times over their tariffs and most
five times over their tariffs and most
five times over their tariffs and most times it’s because they haven’t done a
times it’s because they haven’t done a
times it’s because they haven’t done a program I saw one guy that was supposed
program I saw one guy that was supposed
program I saw one guy that was supposed to do a program around healthy
to do a program around healthy
to do a program around healthy relationships he couldn’t do it he was
relationships he couldn’t do it he was
relationships he couldn’t do it he was refused to do it because he was gay and
refused to do it because he was gay and
refused to do it because he was gay and the program was for heterosexual
the program was for heterosexual
the program was for heterosexual relationships so he got his parole
relationships so he got his parole
relationships so he got his parole pushed back due to the fact that he
pushed back due to the fact that he
pushed back due to the fact that he could not do a program which doesn’t
could not do a program which doesn’t
could not do a program which doesn’t even exist for him and it’s deep and if
even exist for him and it’s deep and if
even exist for him and it’s deep and if we want real change in the system if we
we want real change in the system if we
we want real change in the system if we want real change for these people and we
want real change for these people and we
want real change for these people and we want a safer society for ourselves we
want a safer society for ourselves we
want a safer society for ourselves we have to start thinking about prison and
have to start thinking about prison and
have to start thinking about prison and thinking about finding from a place of
thinking about finding from a place of
thinking about finding from a place of love rather than a place of hate because
love rather than a place of hate because
love rather than a place of hate because whenever I write an article for the
whenever I write an article for the
whenever I write an article for the Guardian or the –
Guardian or the –
Guardian or the – for whatever else I do and whenever I
for whatever else I do and whenever I
for whatever else I do and whenever I see things like this in the newspaper I
see things like this in the newspaper I
see things like this in the newspaper I see these kind of comments and these
see these kind of comments and these
see these kind of comments and these kind of comments hurt my heart more than
kind of comments hurt my heart more than
kind of comments hurt my heart more than anything else in the world because
anything else in the world because
anything else in the world because they’re not helping us and I’m not
they’re not helping us and I’m not
they’re not helping us and I’m not saying that we need to be completely
saying that we need to be completely
saying that we need to be completely lenient and we need to forget about the
lenient and we need to forget about the
lenient and we need to forget about the victims of crime because there’s nothing
victims of crime because there’s nothing
victims of crime because there’s nothing I want to do there’s nothing more that I
I want to do there’s nothing more that I
I want to do there’s nothing more that I don’t want to do in regards of working
don’t want to do in regards of working
don’t want to do in regards of working with children that have killed children
with children that have killed children
with children that have killed children my heart can’t take that no more I
my heart can’t take that no more I
my heart can’t take that no more I understand that I feel that and I don’t
understand that I feel that and I don’t
understand that I feel that and I don’t want that to happen anymore I want us to
want that to happen anymore I want us to
want that to happen anymore I want us to end this circle of pain and we’re only
end this circle of pain and we’re only
end this circle of pain and we’re only gonna do that when we start looking at
gonna do that when we start looking at
gonna do that when we start looking at our systems from a loving compassionate
our systems from a loving compassionate
our systems from a loving compassionate perspective and we all start saying this
perspective and we all start saying this
perspective and we all start saying this doesn’t feel right
doesn’t feel right
doesn’t feel right we need some change we all need to stand
we need some change we all need to stand
we need some change we all need to stand up and start fighting for a better
up and start fighting for a better
up and start fighting for a better society that is more loving and more
society that is more loving and more
society that is more loving and more compassionate because when it’s our most
compassionate because when it’s our most
compassionate because when it’s our most vulnerable children and young people
vulnerable children and young people
vulnerable children and young people that the system has failed sitting in
that the system has failed sitting in
that the system has failed sitting in our prison systems being ignored by the
our prison systems being ignored by the
our prison systems being ignored by the majority of the world something is wrong
majority of the world something is wrong
majority of the world something is wrong so if you leave here with one feeling
so if you leave here with one feeling
so if you leave here with one feeling today feel empowered because you can do
today feel empowered because you can do
today feel empowered because you can do something we can all get involved we can
something we can all get involved we can
something we can all get involved we can all be more curious to what is going on
all be more curious to what is going on
all be more curious to what is going on and we can all be a part of the movement
and we can all be a part of the movement
and we can all be a part of the movement for change thank you
for change thank you
for change thank you [Applause]
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