
traffic corruption of influenced six of them
have rigged by networks
of obscure influenced that goes on between
washington brussels paris if you
look a little in the press
it’s a little the messages that you go
to receive on the practice of my profession
in fact wholesale criticized for
favor particular interests in
detriment of the general interest
even to sit completely
those of barley and economic and financial
our country
and then then there is the business then
in Brussels there was always there is the
to lobby tobacco in Paris I will
think for example to cash
investigations that denounces in
agriculture the use of pesticides
and then for example points here I
you can find some
plethora can confident in general
when we talk about my job, we’re going
first refer to this type of
two messages
so when you go to dinner with
friends to meet very people
nice we are talking to you that you
of a moment you say but then you do
what
and here I prefer with doctors what
that it’s a little cooler the world has
little bobos estate agents we have
all need a roof over the
head when you say that you
are the beast in general its ice a
little and yet I’m the bij since
almost twenty years I worked at
brussels for a very long time in
as a French official for
defend interests in brussels
then I came back to work
in paris i also worked in
several European countries
I now defend the interests of
big American multinationals we
talked about it just now
now Swiss and then I look at myself
from time to time in the ice when
even I say to myself wow corruption
conflict of interest what is it
that it is my practice I confess that
I do not really find myself in there
so lobbying is what these
bad guys that’s nice it’s complicated
and that comes from where you explain in
do what I do and how do
spend lobbying actually it’s in you
find full of definition
European Commission in texts
of law mine actually I’m the
spokesperson
who will defend interests
a position in front of decision makers
policies
I will try to explain to them that
on such and such regulation by
report to the company or
interests that I represent I think
that it’s more or less positive more or
less negative why I’m not going
necessarily as the bis
represented only interests
multinational companies I can
also worked for tpe / sme
it was my case before
you can also find lobbysts
in professional federations
in trade unions but also in
consumer associations I
think for example what to choose who
had taken a position at the assembly
national a decade ago
where he claimed to be lobbysts
sas and I found it very very strong
and is very modern and you can
also find lobis so we go to them
to call differently will call that from
advocacy in NGOs in
patient associations
we all have the same job we did
same training
and then we can go from one to
the other this job that I tell them is
the defense makes it of interest
specific specific
the association a problem of rights of
consumers of the environment of
digital at a moment t and so we
represents is called parts
stakeholders an expression of society
to try to explain the
virtues or no such and such
reflection
and all this is part of it in
england the definition of parties
lobby stakeholders is in england
actually lobby means corridor and the
lobbyist is the one who was in the
House of Commons in London who
try to challenge parliamentarians
before he enters the hemicycle
to adopt a decision for the
convince that such and such interest
was important or such and such
decision because in England actually
you know it very much related to
industrialization so beginning of the
19th and that’s the concern of actually getting
say that when you represent a
particular interest you want in
does improve something for your
your own account
if it’s positive without knowing it you
risk adding value
to society so if we make a
caricature the sum of interests
particular will define the interest
general while in France we have a
political design completely to
the opposite of this political tradition
English is also found in the states
united in France we will do a lot more
reference to the social contract of
rousseau where we will actually say that the
people holds in the general interest
and that when they vote and that he names
an elected official it gives him this power
to know what is good for the people
and its forge makes it a tradition
politics in brussels you’re going to be
between two ie in brussels
you are going to have institutions that
on paper seems to work at the
French there are cabinets
and very structured
pyramid
but their operation is a lot
more Anglo-Saxon since in fact
Brussels to be able to know what is
good for the population is there between
she and the population of states that
often defend their own
economic interests of the regions and
to fine and how is she doing
to find out what actors expect
economic and consumer
so she develops a system of
consultation and that’s when
that lobbysts expresses it’s this
moment there we think that on this subject there
to go in such a way that in such
other but what about France
so in brussels in washington that the
first place lobbying level
global we will estimate 30,000 lobbysts
Brussels is estimated between them or
about 20 miles the beast in France
we do not know there is not really
established figures
so I learned a little bit and
will estimate if we are in an order of
size that has about 4000
structure in France who will defend
at a given moment or another their
interest in decision makers
policies that are going to make another big
words of influence
so I actually remember as a
anecdote inde a call a day a
american journalist who tells me I
see that you think you are lobbysts
that you claim it
but in fact there are some that I
not understand there is the did
reference and I would like you
explain to me she was referring in
made to the sphere of breathalyzers in
2012 where the fillon government has
decided that actually every driver
had to have a breathalyzer so
required in his glove box
the idea was rather positive it’s up to
to say the idea was to reduce the
car accidents because of the
alcohol consumption and to ask
drivers of himself to have a
breathalyzer it was a way of the
to make people aware of their consumption
alcohol and especially to reduce the
expenditure for the state ie the
when you are arrested we do not know
not the state that pays alcohol tests but
the driver
in fact the problem is that the
President of the Federation of
road accidents made the front page
newspapers saying that this decision
was outrageous because she had
favored a French company whose
the order book was exploding and so
she implied that there was
conflict of interest yet this famous
word I will not go into detail
to know if it’s true or if it’s wrong
what is interesting is that in fact
when she called the elect for
to know who they with whom he had
discussed
she discovered that actually an employee
from this company
was president of the federation of
alcohol tests in France and that it is him
who had given this idea and she
tell me when I call a parliamentarian
and that I tell him is what you have
received this gentleman absolutely yes
and so what it saw you
said ah no me madam I do not argue
not with the lobis me I go out to
kicking ass in my office and
said emmanuelle I discussed with
who
vast question then of course the
discusses with lobbyists I told you
that they had levers in the
professional federations and this is
in fact what is interesting is
that the question of the term bing is in
so sulphurous so there is an association
in France who looked at the
question and then said
the association that groups lobbysts
French companies
if we can not call ourselves lobbies how
we can call each other after all
it may be a kind of word we have
searched we did marketing studies
state of investigation we looked into
different countries where the practice is
current and then actually I think me
personally that no matter one can
to call himself director of business
public 17 director of business
institutional or the beast a cat
is a cat the subject for me he is
not in the denomination he is in
our practice and this is a topic about
which I started to lean
when i was working in brussels
since we have a definition and a
frame that was asked in 1996
in Brussels and an acceleration in
2004 since there is a commissioner
european called sim kallas who has
decided to seize the subject and to
to put a regulation is a framework
a little bit more strict and that’s where
that I decided to create my
association called base that has
over ten years old which counts more than one
hundred of the beast in France to
say no to brussels there are
reflections there is a framework in France
what’s not so big about it
already did not speak much or when
talk about it is rather an evil
I thought , what can I
To this topic we seize
that it is recognized as an activity
like another and what can I
to make the behavior not long
in one case
professionals remain respectful of a
number of rules in france the
subject happened a lot later I
will say after a lot of symposium etc and
to have worked with others
associations
it’s sir sirue at the time
parliamentary secretary today
of state which partly took over
sir functions will go who
seized the subject in 2012
the breathalyser and actually decides to
recognize the added value of the lobby
saying here are the lobbysts brings
an expertise at a time t a
analysis of a text he defends a
position but for that we need to know
it is what interest he represents
what budget they are at what are the
folders on which he will work
in a register we wear a badge and we
knows who we are dealing with
this regulation has evolved since
we have a law that has been adopted
two weeks ago we call
in our jargon the text its part 2 which
which you have certainly not heard
in the press that actually poses the
issue of launcher protection
of alert and and time the reflection to
the recognition of the lobbysts in
France so we do not call it the
bing interest representatives
wandering this mandatory statement
integrates ministerial cabinets
some administrations some elected
local and so today we have a framework
which is fixed in France, we must
all respected and who I hope
will demystify this practice a little
after if I do a little bit of a return
on me to keep breaking you
preconceived ideas
I am not the wife of a man
politics I’m not the daughter of a
politician and I do not do any
policy
I have personal convictions
as a citizen I will vote but I
I am not sure or close to a
any party I do not live on a
address book I do not pass my
life cocktail small necessarily I
will not be here tonight
I work I have a job with
working techniques we have moreover to
basic publish a book we try to
explain to present them
a year and a half ago and then I
think that always in this reflection
of a modern democratic debate on
must be able to express
interests I think everyone should
stay in one’s place
the lobbyist presents an analysis
explains clearly why he is why
it is there what are the stakes that
who thinks that is positive at
negative according to interests
that they represent and elected him he
listen but he listens to everyone he
will listen to all the parties
stakeholders I gave you one
number he thinks he is forging
his opinion and then they decide what
that they think they are good for the
collectivity
Thank you
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