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To Avoid Economic Decline, America Must Age Gracefully | Marc Goldwein | TEDxJHUDC


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[Applause] well good afternoon everyone I’m an

well good afternoon everyone I’m an

well good afternoon everyone I’m an economics professor here at johns

economics professor here at johns

economics professor here at johns hopkins and as such i wanted to talk to

hopkins and as such i wanted to talk to

hopkins and as such i wanted to talk to you about what is probably the single

you about what is probably the single

you about what is probably the single largest most serious economic challenge

largest most serious economic challenge

largest most serious economic challenge probably of our time and certainly for

probably of our time and certainly for

probably of our time and certainly for your generation and that is the aging of

your generation and that is the aging of

your generation and that is the aging of our population over the next few minutes

our population over the next few minutes

our population over the next few minutes I want to talk to you about I can figure

I want to talk to you about I can figure

I want to talk to you about I can figure how to get my clicker to work over the

how to get my clicker to work over the

how to get my clicker to work over the next few minutes I want to talk to you

next few minutes I want to talk to you

next few minutes I want to talk to you about how America as a society is

about how America as a society is

about how America as a society is getting older about how that aging if we

getting older about how that aging if we

getting older about how that aging if we continue on our present course is bad

continue on our present course is bad

continue on our present course is bad for retirement security harmful for the

for retirement security harmful for the

for retirement security harmful for the federal budget and fiscal policy and

federal budget and fiscal policy and

federal budget and fiscal policy and ultimately slows economic growth and

ultimately slows economic growth and

ultimately slows economic growth and then so this isn’t all about the dismal

then so this isn’t all about the dismal

then so this isn’t all about the dismal science I want to give you an optimistic

science I want to give you an optimistic

science I want to give you an optimistic note of how instead of aging as we are

note of how instead of aging as we are

note of how instead of aging as we are today we can age gracefully and instead

today we can age gracefully and instead

today we can age gracefully and instead of economic decline age for gracing

of economic decline age for gracing

of economic decline age for gracing graceful aging can lead to actually more

graceful aging can lead to actually more

graceful aging can lead to actually more vibrant economic growth more vibrant

vibrant economic growth more vibrant

vibrant economic growth more vibrant retirement security in the future so

retirement security in the future so

retirement security in the future so first of all it’s abundantly clear we

first of all it’s abundantly clear we

first of all it’s abundantly clear we know the demographics America is getting

know the demographics America is getting

know the demographics America is getting older looking just back to nineteen

older looking just back to nineteen

older looking just back to nineteen eighty there was just over 20 million

eighty there was just over 20 million

eighty there was just over 20 million people above the age of 65 in the United

people above the age of 65 in the United

people above the age of 65 in the United States now there was only 20 million

States now there was only 20 million

States now there was only 20 million senior citizens of the United States

senior citizens of the United States

senior citizens of the United States today it’s more like 50 million and as

today it’s more like 50 million and as

today it’s more like 50 million and as we project forward we’re headed towards

we project forward we’re headed towards

we project forward we’re headed towards 100 million and not only are the number

100 million and not only are the number

100 million and not only are the number of seniors growing but their age is

of seniors growing but their age is

of seniors growing but their age is rising as well if you just look at the

rising as well if you just look at the

rising as well if you just look at the chart behind me you’ll see the number of

chart behind me you’ll see the number of

chart behind me you’ll see the number of folks that are above age 75 above age 85

folks that are above age 75 above age 85

folks that are above age 75 above age 85 even above age 95 is increasing as a

even above age 95 is increasing as a

even above age 95 is increasing as a share of the elderly population now

share of the elderly population now

share of the elderly population now there are a few things driving this one

there are a few things driving this one

there are a few things driving this one is we’re living longer how many folks

is we’re living longer how many folks

is we’re living longer how many folks know what the life expectancy was when

know what the life expectancy was when

know what the life expectancy was when the Social Security Act was passed in

the Social Security Act was passed in

the Social Security Act was passed in 1935 it was aged 65 it was actually a

1935 it was aged 65 it was actually a

1935 it was aged 65 it was actually a normal retirement age at the time if we

normal retirement age at the time if we

normal retirement age at the time if we go back to 1900 over a hundred years ago

go back to 1900 over a hundred years ago

go back to 1900 over a hundred years ago the average life expectancy was only

the average life expectancy was only

the average life expectancy was only around 50 the average life expectancy

around 50 the average life expectancy

around 50 the average life expectancy for those that reach 65 and that wasn’t

for those that reach 65 and that wasn’t

for those that reach 65 and that wasn’t all that comment was only about 77 years

all that comment was only about 77 years

all that comment was only about 77 years old today the average life expectancy is

old today the average life expectancy is

old today the average life expectancy is is 80 and if you’re lucky enough to live

is 80 and if you’re lucky enough to live

is 80 and if you’re lucky enough to live to 65 the

to 65 the

to 65 the life expectancy is 85 people are

life expectancy is 85 people are

life expectancy is 85 people are spending 20 plus years in retirement and

spending 20 plus years in retirement and

spending 20 plus years in retirement and every year and this is a good thing by

every year and this is a good thing by

every year and this is a good thing by the way every year that life expectancy

the way every year that life expectancy

the way every year that life expectancy is growing every year we’re living

is growing every year we’re living

is growing every year we’re living longer every generation is living longer

longer every generation is living longer

longer every generation is living longer than the one before it but by the way as

than the one before it but by the way as

than the one before it but by the way as we’re living longer we’re not working

we’re living longer we’re not working

we’re living longer we’re not working longer in fact is as we look over time

longer in fact is as we look over time

longer in fact is as we look over time we see that we’re living longer and

we see that we’re living longer and

we see that we’re living longer and longer and we’re retiring earlier and

longer and we’re retiring earlier and

longer and we’re retiring earlier and earlier the most common age people

earlier the most common age people

earlier the most common age people retire is now aged 62 the most common to

retire is now aged 62 the most common to

retire is now aged 62 the most common to just 62 that’s the first time you can

just 62 that’s the first time you can

just 62 that’s the first time you can collect Social Security now some folks

collect Social Security now some folks

collect Social Security now some folks retire at 65 when you can collect

retire at 65 when you can collect

retire at 65 when you can collect Medicare some folks retired 66 or 67

Medicare some folks retired 66 or 67

Medicare some folks retired 66 or 67 Social Security’s normal age but on

Social Security’s normal age but on

Social Security’s normal age but on average people are retiring at 63 63 is

average people are retiring at 63 63 is

average people are retiring at 63 63 is the average retirement age that’s way

the average retirement age that’s way

the average retirement age that’s way down from even 30 40 50 years ago as

down from even 30 40 50 years ago as

down from even 30 40 50 years ago as we’re living longer we’re retiring

we’re living longer we’re retiring

we’re living longer we’re retiring earlier and here’s the kicker not only

earlier and here’s the kicker not only

earlier and here’s the kicker not only are we living longer and not working

are we living longer and not working

are we living longer and not working longer but our fertility is weighed out

longer but our fertility is weighed out

longer but our fertility is weighed out so previously yes we were living longer

so previously yes we were living longer

so previously yes we were living longer but we were always having more kids more

but we were always having more kids more

but we were always having more kids more workers to replace the old the older

workers to replace the old the older

workers to replace the old the older ones we’re always having more people

ones we’re always having more people

ones we’re always having more people coming after the generation in order to

coming after the generation in order to

coming after the generation in order to fund our economic growth in order to

fund our economic growth in order to

fund our economic growth in order to fund our senior citizens historically

fund our senior citizens historically

fund our senior citizens historically the United States in the United States

the United States in the United States

the United States in the United States couples have had about three kids per

couples have had about three kids per

couples have had about three kids per couple writer there’s been about three

couple writer there’s been about three

couple writer there’s been about three kids born for every woman that’s above

kids born for every woman that’s above

kids born for every woman that’s above replacement that’s it that’s a level of

replacement that’s it that’s a level of

replacement that’s it that’s a level of fertility that allows for economic

fertility that allows for economic

fertility that allows for economic growth and that allows for population

growth and that allows for population

growth and that allows for population growth briefly after World War two we

growth briefly after World War two we

growth briefly after World War two we had a baby boom the baby boom population

had a baby boom the baby boom population

had a baby boom the baby boom population and we were having about four kids for

and we were having about four kids for

and we were having about four kids for every couple but since then things

every couple but since then things

every couple but since then things crashed right and basically since the

crashed right and basically since the

crashed right and basically since the baby boom population came into this

baby boom population came into this

baby boom population came into this world that fertility rainy night States

world that fertility rainy night States

world that fertility rainy night States has averaged right around replacement

has averaged right around replacement

has averaged right around replacement level which is two people for every

level which is two people for every

level which is two people for every couple that means for every one person

couple that means for every one person

couple that means for every one person they’re going to have one kit that’s

they’re going to have one kit that’s

they’re going to have one kit that’s enough to keep our population stable but

enough to keep our population stable but

enough to keep our population stable but it’s not enough to keep it growing

it’s not enough to keep it growing

it’s not enough to keep it growing growing population of workers to pay for

growing population of workers to pay for

growing population of workers to pay for our seniors add all this together and we

our seniors add all this together and we

our seniors add all this together and we have a situation where our dependency

have a situation where our dependency

have a situation where our dependency ratio or our senior dependency ratio is

ratio or our senior dependency ratio is

ratio or our senior dependency ratio is declining over time just looking at the

declining over time just looking at the

declining over time just looking at the Social Security system back in nineteen

Social Security system back in nineteen

Social Security system back in nineteen fifty we used to have 16 workers paying

fifty we used to have 16 workers paying

fifty we used to have 16 workers paying in

in

in for every retiree pulling out for every

for every retiree pulling out for every

for every retiree pulling out for every retiree receiving benefits but fast

retiree receiving benefits but fast

retiree receiving benefits but fast forwarding to 1960 when the program is

forwarding to 1960 when the program is

forwarding to 1960 when the program is more mature we’d five workers paying in

more mature we’d five workers paying in

more mature we’d five workers paying in for everyone retiree receiving benefits

for everyone retiree receiving benefits

for everyone retiree receiving benefits that meant that each of us in this room

that meant that each of us in this room

that meant that each of us in this room would have to pay twenty cents in order

would have to pay twenty cents in order

would have to pay twenty cents in order to give one dollar to a senior that’s

to give one dollar to a senior that’s

to give one dollar to a senior that’s not so bad twenty cents out of your

not so bad twenty cents out of your

not so bad twenty cents out of your income for a dollar of senior income

income for a dollar of senior income

income for a dollar of senior income today there’s only three workers for

today there’s only three workers for

today there’s only three workers for every retiree which means that each of

every retiree which means that each of

every retiree which means that each of us has to contribute thirty-three cents

us has to contribute thirty-three cents

us has to contribute thirty-three cents for every dollar a senior receives and

for every dollar a senior receives and

for every dollar a senior receives and over time by 2035 there’s only going to

over time by 2035 there’s only going to

over time by 2035 there’s only going to be two of us paying for every senior in

be two of us paying for every senior in

be two of us paying for every senior in other words two people have to split the

other words two people have to split the

other words two people have to split the cost of the senior that’s fifty cents

cost of the senior that’s fifty cents

cost of the senior that’s fifty cents each of us have to contribute just for a

each of us have to contribute just for a

each of us have to contribute just for a dollar of senior income this declining

dollar of senior income this declining

dollar of senior income this declining ratio of workers to retirees is

ratio of workers to retirees is

ratio of workers to retirees is problematic for a lot of reasons and it

problematic for a lot of reasons and it

problematic for a lot of reasons and it brings me to my next point which is

brings me to my next point which is

brings me to my next point which is aging is bad for economic growth aging

aging is bad for economic growth aging

aging is bad for economic growth aging is bad for society we need to do

is bad for society we need to do

is bad for society we need to do something about it first of all our

something about it first of all our

something about it first of all our population aging not death panels but as

population aging not death panels but as

population aging not death panels but as there are other options we’ll talk about

there are other options we’ll talk about

there are other options we’ll talk about first of all population aging is

first of all population aging is

first of all population aging is problematic for retirement security if

problematic for retirement security if

problematic for retirement security if people are living longer but they aren’t

people are living longer but they aren’t

people are living longer but they aren’t working longer it means they have less

working longer it means they have less

working longer it means they have less savings available to finance their

savings available to finance their

savings available to finance their retirement your choices then are you

retirement your choices then are you

retirement your choices then are you need to either consume less during your

need to either consume less during your

need to either consume less during your working life and then save more or you

working life and then save more or you

working life and then save more or you need to stretch the same amount of

need to stretch the same amount of

need to stretch the same amount of savings over more years it’s a lot

savings over more years it’s a lot

savings over more years it’s a lot harder to retire for thirty years than

harder to retire for thirty years than

harder to retire for thirty years than 415 you need a lot more savings to do it

415 you need a lot more savings to do it

415 you need a lot more savings to do it secondly our aging population is

secondly our aging population is

secondly our aging population is seriously problematic for our national

seriously problematic for our national

seriously problematic for our national debt so today in our new president

debt so today in our new president

debt so today in our new president entered office with a higher debt

entered office with a higher debt

entered office with a higher debt relative to the economy than any

relative to the economy than any

relative to the economy than any president besides Harry Truman right now

president besides Harry Truman right now

president besides Harry Truman right now dead is seventy-seven percent of GDP

dead is seventy-seven percent of GDP

dead is seventy-seven percent of GDP which is a record other than during

which is a record other than during

which is a record other than during World War two overtime its projected to

World War two overtime its projected to

World War two overtime its projected to double by 2050 even under current law we

double by 2050 even under current law we

double by 2050 even under current law we expect it to double as a share of GDP

expect it to double as a share of GDP

expect it to double as a share of GDP this is more than entirely driven by the

this is more than entirely driven by the

this is more than entirely driven by the aging of our population it’s more than

aging of our population it’s more than

aging of our population it’s more than entirely driven by the rising cost of

entirely driven by the rising cost of

entirely driven by the rising cost of Social Security which is our senior

Social Security which is our senior

Social Security which is our senior retirement program and Medicare which is

retirement program and Medicare which is

retirement program and Medicare which is our senior health program in fact if

our senior health program in fact if

our senior health program in fact if those two programs just grew at the pace

those two programs just grew at the pace

those two programs just grew at the pace of economic growth we would have the

of economic growth we would have the

of economic growth we would have the declining debt ratio fiscal policy the

declining debt ratio fiscal policy the

declining debt ratio fiscal policy the united states would be stable and this

united states would be stable and this

united states would be stable and this isn’t just

isn’t just

isn’t just a problem for the debt it’s a problem

a problem for the debt it’s a problem

a problem for the debt it’s a problem for these specific programs social

for these specific programs social

for these specific programs social security in particular is self financed

security in particular is self financed

security in particular is self financed people pay your payroll tax into Social

people pay your payroll tax into Social

people pay your payroll tax into Social Security and then other seniors receive

Security and then other seniors receive

Security and then other seniors receive benefits from that trust fund in the

benefits from that trust fund in the

benefits from that trust fund in the past especially in the 90s we had more

past especially in the 90s we had more

past especially in the 90s we had more paying in than we had pulling out we had

paying in than we had pulling out we had

paying in than we had pulling out we had the baby boomers in their prime working

the baby boomers in their prime working

the baby boomers in their prime working years contributing payroll taxes and a

years contributing payroll taxes and a

years contributing payroll taxes and a relatively small senior population so we

relatively small senior population so we

relatively small senior population so we built up a surplus built of a trust fund

built up a surplus built of a trust fund

built up a surplus built of a trust fund about three trillion dollars now every

about three trillion dollars now every

about three trillion dollars now every year we’re drawing from that trust fund

year we’re drawing from that trust fund

year we’re drawing from that trust fund by sometime between 2030 and 2035 that

by sometime between 2030 and 2035 that

by sometime between 2030 and 2035 that trust fund is going to be empty there’ll

trust fund is going to be empty there’ll

trust fund is going to be empty there’ll be no money left in it at that point the

be no money left in it at that point the

be no money left in it at that point the law says every one of the program

law says every one of the program

law says every one of the program doesn’t matter if you’re rich or your

doesn’t matter if you’re rich or your

doesn’t matter if you’re rich or your poor doesn’t matter if your age 62 or 92

poor doesn’t matter if your age 62 or 92

poor doesn’t matter if your age 62 or 92 everyone in the program sees their

everyone in the program sees their

everyone in the program sees their benefits cut immediately by twenty

benefits cut immediately by twenty

benefits cut immediately by twenty percent now we can prevent that but to

percent now we can prevent that but to

percent now we can prevent that but to prevent that we basically need to make

prevent that we basically need to make

prevent that we basically need to make adjustments equivalent to over 11

adjustments equivalent to over 11

adjustments equivalent to over 11 trillion dollars in today’s dollars

trillion dollars in today’s dollars

trillion dollars in today’s dollars that’s our unfunded obligations all of

that’s our unfunded obligations all of

that’s our unfunded obligations all of this to address the effect of the aging

this to address the effect of the aging

this to address the effect of the aging population on the Social Security system

population on the Social Security system

population on the Social Security system and perhaps most importantly as we age

and perhaps most importantly as we age

and perhaps most importantly as we age we’re experiencing a permanent slowdown

we’re experiencing a permanent slowdown

we’re experiencing a permanent slowdown in economic growth historically there

in economic growth historically there

in economic growth historically there have always been booms and busts but the

have always been booms and busts but the

have always been booms and busts but the United States on average has grown about

United States on average has grown about

United States on average has grown about 3% from year to year half of that was

3% from year to year half of that was

3% from year to year half of that was labor force growth 1.5 of that three

labor force growth 1.5 of that three

labor force growth 1.5 of that three percent was the fact that each year more

percent was the fact that each year more

percent was the fact that each year more people were entering the labor force or

people were entering the labor force or

people were entering the labor force or working more hours now we’re only

working more hours now we’re only

working more hours now we’re only projected to see that labor force growth

projected to see that labor force growth

projected to see that labor force growth at half a percent a year so instead of

at half a percent a year so instead of

at half a percent a year so instead of one and a half percentage points growth

one and a half percentage points growth

one and a half percentage points growth from labor force we’re getting half a

from labor force we’re getting half a

from labor force we’re getting half a percent and that means our economic

percent and that means our economic

percent and that means our economic growth is going to slow and in fact

growth is going to slow and in fact

growth is going to slow and in fact already has slowed from three percent

already has slowed from three percent

already has slowed from three percent year to year to two percent now that

year to year to two percent now that

year to year to two percent now that might seem like a small difference but

might seem like a small difference but

might seem like a small difference but over time it accumulates and it’s quite

over time it accumulates and it’s quite

over time it accumulates and it’s quite significant it could be the difference

significant it could be the difference

significant it could be the difference between a prospering society and one

between a prospering society and one

between a prospering society and one that’s just holding on luckily it’s not

that’s just holding on luckily it’s not

that’s just holding on luckily it’s not all bad news just because demographics

all bad news just because demographics

all bad news just because demographics is destiny we can’t stop aging but what

is destiny we can’t stop aging but what

is destiny we can’t stop aging but what we can do is address it what we can do

we can do is address it what we can do

we can do is address it what we can do is learn to age gracefully and I would

is learn to age gracefully and I would

is learn to age gracefully and I would propose a three-part plan that will get

propose a three-part plan that will get

propose a three-part plan that will get us most of the way there part one is we

us most of the way there part one is we

us most of the way there part one is we need to reform our immigration laws part

need to reform our immigration laws part

need to reform our immigration laws part two we need to fix of Social Security

two we need to fix of Social Security

two we need to fix of Social Security and part 3 perhaps most importantly we

and part 3 perhaps most importantly we

and part 3 perhaps most importantly we need to change the way we think about

need to change the way we think about

need to change the way we think about retirement we need to change our

retirement we need to change our

retirement we need to change our retirement culture so let me go through

retirement culture so let me go through

retirement culture so let me go through these in order very quickly first of all

these in order very quickly first of all

these in order very quickly first of all if your problem is you have too few

if your problem is you have too few

if your problem is you have too few workers for retirees part of the

workers for retirees part of the

workers for retirees part of the solution should be to try to have more

solution should be to try to have more

solution should be to try to have more workers per retiree we could do that the

workers per retiree we could do that the

workers per retiree we could do that the old-fashioned way but that requires a

old-fashioned way but that requires a

old-fashioned way but that requires a big boost in fertility and then to wait

big boost in fertility and then to wait

big boost in fertility and then to wait 18 to 30 years before we actually get

18 to 30 years before we actually get

18 to 30 years before we actually get the labor participation right a much

the labor participation right a much

the labor participation right a much quicker fix for this is to increase the

quicker fix for this is to increase the

quicker fix for this is to increase the number of especially young and

number of especially young and

number of especially young and especially skilled immigrants coming

especially skilled immigrants coming

especially skilled immigrants coming into this country but to increase the

into this country but to increase the

into this country but to increase the total number of immigrants this will

total number of immigrants this will

total number of immigrants this will boost economic growth this will secure

boost economic growth this will secure

boost economic growth this will secure or this will strengthen our trust funds

or this will strengthen our trust funds

or this will strengthen our trust funds this will improve the debt situation and

this will improve the debt situation and

this will improve the debt situation and this will help to rebalance our

this will help to rebalance our

this will help to rebalance our demographic situation in the immediate

demographic situation in the immediate

demographic situation in the immediate term now I want to be careful this is

term now I want to be careful this is

term now I want to be careful this is not a permanent solution because

not a permanent solution because

not a permanent solution because remember if we bring young workers in

remember if we bring young workers in

remember if we bring young workers in eventually they too were going to be old

eventually they too were going to be old

eventually they too were going to be old eventually they too will be on the wrong

eventually they too will be on the wrong

eventually they too will be on the wrong side of the dependency ratio but what

side of the dependency ratio but what

side of the dependency ratio but what immigration reform can do is buy us time

immigration reform can do is buy us time

immigration reform can do is buy us time is buy us a more gradual transition to

is buy us a more gradual transition to

is buy us a more gradual transition to the young population we used to have to

the young population we used to have to

the young population we used to have to the older population we’re already

the older population we’re already

the older population we’re already starting to have so immigration is step

starting to have so immigration is step

starting to have so immigration is step one but step two is we should be

one but step two is we should be

one but step two is we should be treating basically the biggest symptom

treating basically the biggest symptom

treating basically the biggest symptom of our aging population which is the

of our aging population which is the

of our aging population which is the decline and ultimate insolvency of our

decline and ultimate insolvency of our

decline and ultimate insolvency of our social security system the thing is

social security system the thing is

social security system the thing is fixing Social Security is actually

fixing Social Security is actually

fixing Social Security is actually incredibly easy if instead of speaking

incredibly easy if instead of speaking

incredibly easy if instead of speaking about aging I just negotiated with all

about aging I just negotiated with all

about aging I just negotiated with all of you a social security reform plan in

of you a social security reform plan in

of you a social security reform plan in my 18 minutes we’d have about 14 minutes

my 18 minutes we’d have about 14 minutes

my 18 minutes we’d have about 14 minutes left to spare okay you go to Social

left to spare okay you go to Social

left to spare okay you go to Social Security reform org you can design a

Security reform org you can design a

Security reform org you can design a Social Security reform plan there’s only

Social Security reform plan there’s only

Social Security reform plan there’s only a few lovers we can boost the social

a few lovers we can boost the social

a few lovers we can boost the social security retirement age we can slow the

security retirement age we can slow the

security retirement age we can slow the benefit growth maybe just for higher

benefit growth maybe just for higher

benefit growth maybe just for higher earners who don’t need it as much we can

earners who don’t need it as much we can

earners who don’t need it as much we can increase the amount of income coming

increase the amount of income coming

increase the amount of income coming into the program maybe by increasing

into the program maybe by increasing

into the program maybe by increasing income subject to the social security

income subject to the social security

income subject to the social security payroll tax cap the solutions are pretty

payroll tax cap the solutions are pretty

payroll tax cap the solutions are pretty straightforward the politics are really

straightforward the politics are really

straightforward the politics are really hard but I promised if our politicians

hard but I promised if our politicians

hard but I promised if our politicians come together and agree on some

come together and agree on some

come together and agree on some compromise a I think they’re gonna get

compromise a I think they’re gonna get

compromise a I think they’re gonna get more thumbs up the middle fingers as my

more thumbs up the middle fingers as my

more thumbs up the middle fingers as my old boss L Simpson used to say but be

old boss L Simpson used to say but be

old boss L Simpson used to say but be the economic benefits will be huge no

the economic benefits will be huge no

the economic benefits will be huge no longer will we have an

longer will we have an

longer will we have an solvent social security system no longer

solvent social security system no longer

solvent social security system no longer will we have a rapidly rising debt and

will we have a rapidly rising debt and

will we have a rapidly rising debt and on top of all of that workers will have

on top of all of that workers will have

on top of all of that workers will have clear signals about how much to work how

clear signals about how much to work how

clear signals about how much to work how much to save and invest and how to plan

much to save and invest and how to plan

much to save and invest and how to plan for their future right now they have

for their future right now they have

for their future right now they have none of that that brings me by last

none of that that brings me by last

none of that that brings me by last point which is we need to start

point which is we need to start

point which is we need to start rethinking retirement the old way of

rethinking retirement the old way of

rethinking retirement the old way of retiring was got a job at age 20 or so

retiring was got a job at age 20 or so

retiring was got a job at age 20 or so you worked until age 63 or so and then

you worked until age 63 or so and then

you worked until age 63 or so and then you retired into something completely

you retired into something completely

you retired into something completely different you know you moved to Florida

different you know you moved to Florida

different you know you moved to Florida or you moved into a smaller home that

or you moved into a smaller home that

or you moved into a smaller home that doesn’t work anymore that’s that’s that

doesn’t work anymore that’s that’s that

doesn’t work anymore that’s that’s that makes sense in a manufacturing economy

makes sense in a manufacturing economy

makes sense in a manufacturing economy that’s not very dynamic it doesn’t make

that’s not very dynamic it doesn’t make

that’s not very dynamic it doesn’t make sense in our modern economy that’s

sense in our modern economy that’s

sense in our modern economy that’s increasingly both service and

increasingly both service and

increasingly both service and information based doesn’t work in our

information based doesn’t work in our

information based doesn’t work in our uber economy where you can have ten jobs

uber economy where you can have ten jobs

uber economy where you can have ten jobs or one job it doesn’t work in an economy

or one job it doesn’t work in an economy

or one job it doesn’t work in an economy where people can move fluidly from job

where people can move fluidly from job

where people can move fluidly from job to job and don’t even have to be in the

to job and don’t even have to be in the

to job and don’t even have to be in the same physical location we need to

same physical location we need to

same physical location we need to rethink retirement yeah some people

rethink retirement yeah some people

rethink retirement yeah some people should still retire at age 62 or 63

should still retire at age 62 or 63

should still retire at age 62 or 63 maybe earlier others could stay at their

maybe earlier others could stay at their

maybe earlier others could stay at their exact same job until age 70 or 75 or 80

exact same job until age 70 or 75 or 80

exact same job until age 70 or 75 or 80 and if they’re happy doing that we

and if they’re happy doing that we

and if they’re happy doing that we should be encouraging them to but

should be encouraging them to but

should be encouraging them to but there’s a bigger group of people that

there’s a bigger group of people that

there’s a bigger group of people that fall into need these neither category

fall into need these neither category

fall into need these neither category neither do I want to quit exactly at age

neither do I want to quit exactly at age

neither do I want to quit exactly at age 62 nor work until 150 years old right

62 nor work until 150 years old right

62 nor work until 150 years old right there’s other options though you can

there’s other options though you can

there’s other options though you can transition into retirement phased

transition into retirement phased

transition into retirement phased retirement maybe you switch from

retirement maybe you switch from

retirement maybe you switch from full-time to part-time you can move to

full-time to part-time you can move to

full-time to part-time you can move to consulting you can retire then come back

consulting you can retire then come back

consulting you can retire then come back you have an encore career have a

you have an encore career have a

you have an encore career have a consulting career there’s no reason

consulting career there’s no reason

consulting career there’s no reason retired firefighter can’t open a bar or

retired firefighter can’t open a bar or

retired firefighter can’t open a bar or become a bartender there’s no reason

become a bartender there’s no reason

become a bartender there’s no reason that a retired real estate agent can’t

that a retired real estate agent can’t

that a retired real estate agent can’t teach at a community college teach

teach at a community college teach

teach at a community college teach business at a community college there’s

business at a community college there’s

business at a community college there’s no reason that somebody that’s been a

no reason that somebody that’s been a

no reason that somebody that’s been a mechanic for their whole life can’t

mechanic for their whole life can’t

mechanic for their whole life can’t start doing aviation consulting we need

start doing aviation consulting we need

start doing aviation consulting we need to stop thinking of the labor force is

to stop thinking of the labor force is

to stop thinking of the labor force is one fixed job with one fixed choice do I

one fixed job with one fixed choice do I

one fixed job with one fixed choice do I work or do I not work and start thinking

work or do I not work and start thinking

work or do I not work and start thinking about it as a breadth of choice where

about it as a breadth of choice where

about it as a breadth of choice where each individual makes the best decision

each individual makes the best decision

each individual makes the best decision for them and our economy and our

for them and our economy and our

for them and our economy and our economic policy welcomes those decisions

economic policy welcomes those decisions

economic policy welcomes those decisions now if we can do that I suspect one

now if we can do that I suspect one

now if we can do that I suspect one people will work longer and I suspect

people will work longer and I suspect

people will work longer and I suspect they’ll work longer in much more

they’ll work longer in much more

they’ll work longer in much more flexible ways and the benefits of that

flexible ways and the benefits of that

flexible ways and the benefits of that would be huge first of all we see a big

would be huge first of all we see a big

would be huge first of all we see a big uptick in economic growth these are

uptick in economic growth these are

uptick in economic growth these are estimates from the Congressional Budget

estimates from the Congressional Budget

estimates from the Congressional Budget Office this is basically the official

Office this is basically the official

Office this is basically the official scorekeeper of the united states

scorekeeper of the united states

scorekeeper of the united states government and they say if everybody

government and they say if everybody

government and they say if everybody just works one year longer the economy

just works one year longer the economy

just works one year longer the economy will eventually be two and a half

will eventually be two and a half

will eventually be two and a half percent larger if everybody works three

percent larger if everybody works three

percent larger if everybody works three years longer the economy will be seven

years longer the economy will be seven

years longer the economy will be seven percent larger and remember this doesn’t

percent larger and remember this doesn’t

percent larger and remember this doesn’t have to happen all at once this can be a

have to happen all at once this can be a

have to happen all at once this can be a gradual change secondly working longer

gradual change secondly working longer

gradual change secondly working longer is good for workers the longer you work

is good for workers the longer you work

is good for workers the longer you work the fewer years you’ve got to take care

the fewer years you’ve got to take care

the fewer years you’ve got to take care of yourself in foreign retirement and

of yourself in foreign retirement and

of yourself in foreign retirement and the more savings you will have to do so

the more savings you will have to do so

the more savings you will have to do so with again these are some estimates of

with again these are some estimates of

with again these are some estimates of how much money you’d have if you just

how much money you’d have if you just

how much money you’d have if you just put a typical amount into a 401k say

put a typical amount into a 401k say

put a typical amount into a 401k say 5,000 a year depending on your age of

5,000 a year depending on your age of

5,000 a year depending on your age of retirement if you’re tired at 62 you’d

retirement if you’re tired at 62 you’d

retirement if you’re tired at 62 you’d basically be able to spend twenty six

basically be able to spend twenty six

basically be able to spend twenty six thousand dollars a year that would be

thousand dollars a year that would be

thousand dollars a year that would be your income if you just retired at 66

your income if you just retired at 66

your income if you just retired at 66 you’d be able to spend thirty five

you’d be able to spend thirty five

you’d be able to spend thirty five thousand retiring later is good for

thousand retiring later is good for

thousand retiring later is good for workers at least for workers that are

workers at least for workers that are

workers at least for workers that are able and by the way the literature on

able and by the way the literature on

able and by the way the literature on this they’re not Universal all points in

this they’re not Universal all points in

this they’re not Universal all points in one direction which is that working

one direction which is that working

one direction which is that working longer and working in more flexible ways

longer and working in more flexible ways

longer and working in more flexible ways is good for folks wealth it’s good for

is good for folks wealth it’s good for

is good for folks wealth it’s good for their health and it’s good for their

their health and it’s good for their

their health and it’s good for their happiness there’s one study that

happiness there’s one study that

happiness there’s one study that basically says if a worker works a year

basically says if a worker works a year

basically says if a worker works a year more they can spend ten percent more

more they can spend ten percent more

more they can spend ten percent more each year for the remainder of their

each year for the remainder of their

each year for the remainder of their lives that’s a much happier retirement

lives that’s a much happier retirement

lives that’s a much happier retirement right ten percent more they actually

right ten percent more they actually

right ten percent more they actually looked at low income seniors and found

looked at low income seniors and found

looked at low income seniors and found it was more like fifteen percent more it

it was more like fifteen percent more it

it was more like fifteen percent more it also turns out we’re healthier when we

also turns out we’re healthier when we

also turns out we’re healthier when we work longer both mentally and physically

work longer both mentally and physically

work longer both mentally and physically and were happier we’re more satisfied

and were happier we’re more satisfied

and were happier we’re more satisfied when we worked longer humans weren’t

when we worked longer humans weren’t

when we worked longer humans weren’t meant to do the same thing their entire

meant to do the same thing their entire

meant to do the same thing their entire life and then just one day stop right

life and then just one day stop right

life and then just one day stop right humans are dynamic and we live in a

humans are dynamic and we live in a

humans are dynamic and we live in a dynamic society we’re meant to be able

dynamic society we’re meant to be able

dynamic society we’re meant to be able to fulfill our to use our skills to the

to fulfill our to use our skills to the

to fulfill our to use our skills to the best of our ability and to fill our own

best of our ability and to fill our own

best of our ability and to fill our own goals of happiness that doesn’t happen

goals of happiness that doesn’t happen

goals of happiness that doesn’t happen with some binary retirement system this

with some binary retirement system this

with some binary retirement system this is the good news the good news is

is the good news the good news is

is the good news the good news is there’s a win-win here right if we think

there’s a win-win here right if we think

there’s a win-win here right if we think the way we retire if we fix our social

the way we retire if we fix our social

the way we retire if we fix our social security system we increase immigration

security system we increase immigration

security system we increase immigration to manage the transition we don’t have

to manage the transition we don’t have

to manage the transition we don’t have to have economic decline we can age

to have economic decline we can age

to have economic decline we can age gracefully

gracefully

gracefully and we can achieve economic prosperity

and we can achieve economic prosperity

and we can achieve economic prosperity thank you very much

thank you very much

thank you very much [Applause]

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