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What Contagious Cancer Teaches Us About How We Think | Robert Moser | TEDxWestPoint


so how about who’s forgotten to get

so how about who’s forgotten to get their flu shot ever there we go

their flu shot ever there we go

their flu shot ever there we go how about who forgets to wash their

how about who forgets to wash their

how about who forgets to wash their hands after they use the restroom

hands after they use the restroom

hands after they use the restroom major Wyatt put your hand down that’s

major Wyatt put your hand down that’s

major Wyatt put your hand down that’s that’s gross okay so you you you you

that’s gross okay so you you you you

that’s gross okay so you you you you definitely you sir that’s disgusting and

definitely you sir that’s disgusting and

definitely you sir that’s disgusting and and you imagine they all got cancer so

thank you for coming to my TED talk

thank you for coming to my TED talk entitled what contagious cancer thinks

entitled what contagious cancer thinks

entitled what contagious cancer thinks about or tells us about what we know and

about or tells us about what we know and

about or tells us about what we know and first and foremost I’d like to thank

first and foremost I’d like to thank

first and foremost I’d like to thank that Emma Hannah who’s heard the speech

that Emma Hannah who’s heard the speech

that Emma Hannah who’s heard the speech so many times that she can probably give

so many times that she can probably give

so many times that she can probably give it better than I can and also my parents

it better than I can and also my parents

it better than I can and also my parents who from swim team to soccer tryouts

who from swim team to soccer tryouts

who from swim team to soccer tryouts taught me that probably the most

taught me that probably the most

taught me that probably the most fulfilling things in life are the ones

fulfilling things in life are the ones

fulfilling things in life are the ones that scare you just a little bit and so

that scare you just a little bit and so

that scare you just a little bit and so diving back in cancer spreads through a

diving back in cancer spreads through a

diving back in cancer spreads through a process known as metastasis which is

process known as metastasis which is

process known as metastasis which is Latin for beyond stillness and through

Latin for beyond stillness and through

Latin for beyond stillness and through this process breast cancer cells for

this process breast cancer cells for

this process breast cancer cells for example could break off be transported

example could break off be transported

example could break off be transported throughout the body and deposited in a

throughout the body and deposited in a

throughout the body and deposited in a new location where they would continue

new location where they would continue

new location where they would continue to grow these cells are still breast

to grow these cells are still breast

to grow these cells are still breast cancer cells only now they’re

cancer cells only now they’re

cancer cells only now they’re metastasized breast cancer cells and

metastasized breast cancer cells and

metastasized breast cancer cells and through this theory it is not illogical

through this theory it is not illogical

through this theory it is not illogical that the next host or organism that

that the next host or organism that

that the next host or organism that these cells invade does not necessarily

these cells invade does not necessarily

these cells invade does not necessarily have to be in the same body and so

have to be in the same body and so

have to be in the same body and so cancer first documented nearly 3,000

cancer first documented nearly 3,000

cancer first documented nearly 3,000 years ago by the historian herodotus as

years ago by the historian herodotus as

years ago by the historian herodotus as he sought to explain the mysterious lump

he sought to explain the mysterious lump

he sought to explain the mysterious lump in his queen at haces breast has always

in his queen at haces breast has always

in his queen at haces breast has always been thought to be non transmissible but

been thought to be non transmissible but

been thought to be non transmissible but what if cancer

what if cancer

what if cancer instead of being a disease that dies

instead of being a disease that dies

instead of being a disease that dies with its host and is therefore

with its host and is therefore

with its host and is therefore evolutionarily constrained from being

evolutionarily constrained from being

evolutionarily constrained from being the most dangerous disease in history

the most dangerous disease in history

the most dangerous disease in history what if you could catch cancer from

what if you could catch cancer from

what if you could catch cancer from someone else this idea is already

someone else this idea is already

someone else this idea is already apparent in the animal kingdom most

apparent in the animal kingdom most

apparent in the animal kingdom most notably with Tasmanian devils these

notably with Tasmanian devils these

notably with Tasmanian devils these devils can be afflicted with Tasmanian

devils can be afflicted with Tasmanian

devils can be afflicted with Tasmanian devil facial tumour disease or DFTD in

devil facial tumour disease or DFTD in

devil facial tumour disease or DFTD in which facial tumors like the ones you

which facial tumors like the ones you

which facial tumors like the ones you see here can be spread from devil the

see here can be spread from devil the

see here can be spread from devil the devil via biting mating and feeding and

devil via biting mating and feeding and

devil via biting mating and feeding and tragically this disease has become so

tragically this disease has become so

tragically this disease has become so severe that the Australian Government

severe that the Australian Government

severe that the Australian Government has placed the devil’s on the endangered

has placed the devil’s on the endangered

has placed the devil’s on the endangered species list for eight years and they

species list for eight years and they

species list for eight years and they now face extinction and most important

now face extinction and most important

now face extinction and most important to our core concept today is that

to our core concept today is that

to our core concept today is that researchers concluded that every single

researchers concluded that every single

researchers concluded that every single DFTD tumour is genetically identical

DFTD tumour is genetically identical

DFTD tumour is genetically identical which means that every single tumour is

which means that every single tumour is

which means that every single tumour is the same tumour which all started on a

the same tumour which all started on a

the same tumour which all started on a single Tasmanian Devil about fifty years

single Tasmanian Devil about fifty years

single Tasmanian Devil about fifty years ago and have since spread to many more

ago and have since spread to many more

ago and have since spread to many more and interestingly scientists found a

and interestingly scientists found a

and interestingly scientists found a second form of contagious cancer with

second form of contagious cancer with

second form of contagious cancer with symptoms almost identical to this one

symptoms almost identical to this one

symptoms almost identical to this one about two years ago so these devils have

about two years ago so these devils have

about two years ago so these devils have developed two forms of contagious cancer

developed two forms of contagious cancer

developed two forms of contagious cancer within really the last 30 to 50 years

within really the last 30 to 50 years

within really the last 30 to 50 years which really prompts a question exactly

which really prompts a question exactly

which really prompts a question exactly how uncommon is this disease now sheep

how uncommon is this disease now sheep

how uncommon is this disease now sheep can also be infected with a disease

can also be infected with a disease

can also be infected with a disease known as yaagh see Ekta which is

known as yaagh see Ekta which is

known as yaagh see Ekta which is Afrikaans for running sickness and since

Afrikaans for running sickness and since

Afrikaans for running sickness and since the scientific community isn’t literate

the scientific community isn’t literate

the scientific community isn’t literate in Afrikaans most scientists have

in Afrikaans most scientists have

in Afrikaans most scientists have simplified it to ovine pulmonary edema

simplified it to ovine pulmonary edema

simplified it to ovine pulmonary edema carcinoma which isn’t simple whatsoever

carcinoma which isn’t simple whatsoever

carcinoma which isn’t simple whatsoever so we’ll call it opa and sheep with opa

so we’ll call it opa and sheep with opa

so we’ll call it opa and sheep with opa produce a tumor filled lung fluid like

produce a tumor filled lung fluid like

produce a tumor filled lung fluid like the one you see on the left which is

the one you see on the left which is

the one you see on the left which is frequently discharged from the mouth and

frequently discharged from the mouth and

frequently discharged from the mouth and if unaffected sheep come in contact with

if unaffected sheep come in contact with

if unaffected sheep come in contact with this discharge they then develop the

this discharge they then develop the

this discharge they then develop the same exact type of lung tumor and oddly

same exact type of lung tumor and oddly

same exact type of lung tumor and oddly Dolly the sheep on the right the first

Dolly the sheep on the right the first

Dolly the sheep on the right the first mammal ever to be cloned contracted opa

mammal ever to be cloned contracted opa

mammal ever to be cloned contracted opa and was subs

and was subs

and was subs we euthanized and there are also various

we euthanized and there are also various

we euthanized and there are also various other animals that have no that are

other animals that have no that are

other animals that have no that are known to be susceptible to contagious

known to be susceptible to contagious

known to be susceptible to contagious cancer to include these clams but as you

cancer to include these clams but as you

cancer to include these clams but as you can see clams are pretty boring whether

can see clams are pretty boring whether

can see clams are pretty boring whether they have cancer or not

they have cancer or not

they have cancer or not so we don’t really need to talk about

so we don’t really need to talk about

so we don’t really need to talk about them and so researchers have also been

them and so researchers have also been

them and so researchers have also been able to manipulate metastasis and the

able to manipulate metastasis and the

able to manipulate metastasis and the most important work in this field was

most important work in this field was

most important work in this field was conducted by dr. Peyton ruse who

conducted by dr. Peyton ruse who

conducted by dr. Peyton ruse who injected a contagious sarcoma and the

injected a contagious sarcoma and the

injected a contagious sarcoma and the Plymouth Rock hens and what he did was

Plymouth Rock hens and what he did was

Plymouth Rock hens and what he did was he extracted fluid from sarcomas already

he extracted fluid from sarcomas already

he extracted fluid from sarcomas already growing and hence filtered the fluid

growing and hence filtered the fluid

growing and hence filtered the fluid through ultra fine sieve with holes so

through ultra fine sieve with holes so

through ultra fine sieve with holes so small that not even individual cancer

small that not even individual cancer

small that not even individual cancer cells could fit through and then

cells could fit through and then

cells could fit through and then injected the remaining material into

injected the remaining material into

injected the remaining material into unaffected hens which then developed the

unaffected hens which then developed the

unaffected hens which then developed the same exact type of cancer even though

same exact type of cancer even though

same exact type of cancer even though they hadn’t been exposed to any

they hadn’t been exposed to any

they hadn’t been exposed to any particular cancer cells and he won the

particular cancer cells and he won the

particular cancer cells and he won the Nobel Prize in 1966 for what he called

Nobel Prize in 1966 for what he called

Nobel Prize in 1966 for what he called the roost sarcoma virus and also

the roost sarcoma virus and also

the roost sarcoma virus and also researchers were able to transfer a

researchers were able to transfer a

researchers were able to transfer a contagious sarcoma between Syrian

contagious sarcoma between Syrian

contagious sarcoma between Syrian hamsters through only spontaneous

hamsters through only spontaneous

hamsters through only spontaneous physical and social contact and even

physical and social contact and even

physical and social contact and even observed one tumor lived for 11 years

observed one tumor lived for 11 years

observed one tumor lived for 11 years and passed between two hundred and

and passed between two hundred and

and passed between two hundred and eighty-eight hamsters and there have

eighty-eight hamsters and there have

eighty-eight hamsters and there have also been various human case studies

also been various human case studies

also been various human case studies which augment these findings and all of

which augment these findings and all of

which augment these findings and all of this data all this research pulled

this data all this research pulled

this data all this research pulled together sparked the cancer virus theory

together sparked the cancer virus theory

together sparked the cancer virus theory the cancer virus program grew into a new

the cancer virus program grew into a new

the cancer virus program grew into a new 500 million dollar budget

500 million dollar budget

500 million dollar budget Life magazine proclaimed that cancer may

Life magazine proclaimed that cancer may

Life magazine proclaimed that cancer may be infectious contagious cancer now has

be infectious contagious cancer now has

be infectious contagious cancer now has over ten point six million hits on

over ten point six million hits on

over ten point six million hits on Google and two months ago the New York

Google and two months ago the New York

Google and two months ago the New York Times proclaimed that contagious human

Times proclaimed that contagious human

Times proclaimed that contagious human cancer is in the realm of medical

cancer is in the realm of medical

cancer is in the realm of medical possibility so cancer must be a

possibility so cancer must be a

possibility so cancer must be a constantly evolving disease one that is

constantly evolving disease one that is

constantly evolving disease one that is fine-tuned Darwin’s theory of evolution

fine-tuned Darwin’s theory of evolution

fine-tuned Darwin’s theory of evolution over thousands and thousands of years

over thousands and thousands of years

over thousands and thousands of years and by viewing cancer is this ultimate

and by viewing cancer is this ultimate

and by viewing cancer is this ultimate product of Darwinian selection proposes

product of Darwinian selection proposes

product of Darwinian selection proposes that even if some cancer

that even if some cancer

that even if some cancer are not by nature contagious now they

are not by nature contagious now they

are not by nature contagious now they could eventually evolve to become so in

could eventually evolve to become so in

could eventually evolve to become so in order to be more effective in the future

order to be more effective in the future

order to be more effective in the future so cancer with its crab-like hold on the

so cancer with its crab-like hold on the

so cancer with its crab-like hold on the bodies and minds of America is probably

bodies and minds of America is probably

bodies and minds of America is probably the most daunting disease of the 21st

the most daunting disease of the 21st

the most daunting disease of the 21st century and its ability to baffle

century and its ability to baffle

century and its ability to baffle researchers has made it almost

researchers has made it almost

researchers has made it almost impossible to find a cure but perhaps

impossible to find a cure but perhaps

impossible to find a cure but perhaps the most concerning facet of the entire

the most concerning facet of the entire

the most concerning facet of the entire theory of contagious cancer is the

theory of contagious cancer is the

theory of contagious cancer is the potential implications that it brings

potential implications that it brings

potential implications that it brings about how can we spend over 100 billion

about how can we spend over 100 billion

about how can we spend over 100 billion dollars a year on research how can we

dollars a year on research how can we

dollars a year on research how can we have access to almost 3000 years of data

have access to almost 3000 years of data

have access to almost 3000 years of data and how can this disease be the most

and how can this disease be the most

and how can this disease be the most frightening diagnosis for a family to

frightening diagnosis for a family to

frightening diagnosis for a family to receive and yet a fundamental concept

receive and yet a fundamental concept

receive and yet a fundamental concept can you catch it from someone else

can you catch it from someone else

can you catch it from someone else eludes us what if everything we know

eludes us what if everything we know

eludes us what if everything we know about a disease that killed over 500,000

about a disease that killed over 500,000

about a disease that killed over 500,000 Americans last year has changed how then

Americans last year has changed how then

Americans last year has changed how then are we ever able to state definitively

are we ever able to state definitively

are we ever able to state definitively that we know anything at all to what

that we know anything at all to what

that we know anything at all to what extent can we prove something given that

extent can we prove something given that

extent can we prove something given that seldom few subjects have as much time

seldom few subjects have as much time

seldom few subjects have as much time and resources devoted to them as cancer

and resources devoted to them as cancer

and resources devoted to them as cancer clearly manpower money time and effort

clearly manpower money time and effort

clearly manpower money time and effort do not always bring about knowledge so

do not always bring about knowledge so

do not always bring about knowledge so it has become apparent that a broader

it has become apparent that a broader

it has become apparent that a broader reality is the new norm cancer evolves

reality is the new norm cancer evolves

reality is the new norm cancer evolves and in order to understand this

and in order to understand this

and in order to understand this evolution our knowledge too must evolve

evolution our knowledge too must evolve

evolution our knowledge too must evolve knowledge is often revealed to and more

knowledge is often revealed to and more

knowledge is often revealed to and more often concealed from us by nature and

often concealed from us by nature and

often concealed from us by nature and time and we are left to discover life at

time and we are left to discover life at

time and we are left to discover life at their discretion the earth isn’t flat

their discretion the earth isn’t flat

their discretion the earth isn’t flat for example everyone knows that leeches

for example everyone knows that leeches

for example everyone knows that leeches can’t suck sickness out of your body the

can’t suck sickness out of your body the

can’t suck sickness out of your body the universe doesn’t revolve around the

universe doesn’t revolve around the

universe doesn’t revolve around the earth

earth

earth literally no one thinks that the body is

literally no one thinks that the body is

literally no one thinks that the body is composed of solely phlegm and bile so

composed of solely phlegm and bile so

composed of solely phlegm and bile so clearly it has not only contagious

clearly it has not only contagious

clearly it has not only contagious cancers that can be spread between

cancers that can be spread between

cancers that can be spread between organisms but contagious ideas as well

organisms but contagious ideas as well

organisms but contagious ideas as well and while we frequently think that we

and while we frequently think that we

and while we frequently think that we control the future that we possess the

control the future that we possess the

control the future that we possess the knowledge necessary to guarantee health

knowledge necessary to guarantee health

knowledge necessary to guarantee health and understand the world life often

and understand the world life often

and understand the world life often reveals to us that nothing is as it

reveals to us that nothing is as it

reveals to us that nothing is as it seems

seems

seems knowledge is very often much less finite

knowledge is very often much less finite

knowledge is very often much less finite than we would hope and the quote the New

than we would hope and the quote the New

than we would hope and the quote the New York Times from February 2016 Nature is

York Times from February 2016 Nature is

York Times from February 2016 Nature is infinite in its surprises so cover your

infinite in its surprises so cover your

infinite in its surprises so cover your mouth when you cough because you really

mouth when you cough because you really

mouth when you cough because you really don’t want to catch cancer

don’t want to catch cancer

don’t want to catch cancer [Applause]

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