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Avoiding a mass ocean extinction | Doug McCauley | TEDxUCSB


66 million years ago a mountain fell

66 million years ago a mountain fell from the sky this is a 10-kilometer

from the sky this is a 10-kilometer

from the sky this is a 10-kilometer asteroid that came crashing down and

asteroid that came crashing down and

asteroid that came crashing down and impacted our planet with the same energy

impacted our planet with the same energy

impacted our planet with the same energy of over a million nuclear bomb blasts

of over a million nuclear bomb blasts

of over a million nuclear bomb blasts this turned the sky black it set up a

this turned the sky black it set up a

this turned the sky black it set up a wave of mega tsunamis that were higher

wave of mega tsunamis that were higher

wave of mega tsunamis that were higher than then skyscrapers it’s a set off

than then skyscrapers it’s a set off

than then skyscrapers it’s a set off volcanoes in earthquakes fires that

volcanoes in earthquakes fires that

volcanoes in earthquakes fires that range all across the land this is a bad

range all across the land this is a bad

range all across the land this is a bad day for planet Earth this was also the

day for planet Earth this was also the

day for planet Earth this was also the day that is the least favorite day for

day that is the least favorite day for

day that is the least favorite day for my son my four-year-old son who loves

my son my four-year-old son who loves

my son my four-year-old son who loves dinosaurs all of this mayhem that was

dinosaurs all of this mayhem that was

dinosaurs all of this mayhem that was unleashed on our world created a mass

unleashed on our world created a mass

unleashed on our world created a mass extinction a mass extinction that

extinction a mass extinction that

extinction a mass extinction that eventually wiped out the dinosaurs some

eventually wiped out the dinosaurs some

eventually wiped out the dinosaurs some of you have probably heard a scientists

of you have probably heard a scientists

of you have probably heard a scientists talk about a new mass extinction that is

talk about a new mass extinction that is

talk about a new mass extinction that is on the horizon this new mass extinction

on the horizon this new mass extinction

on the horizon this new mass extinction is not something that you see on a NASA

is not something that you see on a NASA

is not something that you see on a NASA radar screen of a new asteroid that’s

radar screen of a new asteroid that’s

radar screen of a new asteroid that’s coming crashing towards our planet

coming crashing towards our planet

coming crashing towards our planet rather this new at Nats extinction is

rather this new at Nats extinction is

rather this new at Nats extinction is actually looking at us in the mirror we

actually looking at us in the mirror we

actually looking at us in the mirror we are the new asteroid scientists estimate

are the new asteroid scientists estimate

are the new asteroid scientists estimate that extinction rates caused all around

that extinction rates caused all around

that extinction rates caused all around us on the planet today are as high as

us on the planet today are as high as

us on the planet today are as high as the rates that were observed during this

the rates that were observed during this

the rates that were observed during this day 66 million years ago that observed

day 66 million years ago that observed

day 66 million years ago that observed during some of the biggest mass

during some of the biggest mass

during some of the biggest mass extinctions in human history it’s sort

extinctions in human history it’s sort

extinctions in human history it’s sort of hard for us to get our heads around

of hard for us to get our heads around

of hard for us to get our heads around the gravity of this situation we as

the gravity of this situation we as

the gravity of this situation we as humans sometimes can be a slightly

humans sometimes can be a slightly

humans sometimes can be a slightly self-involved species but if we have the

self-involved species but if we have the

self-involved species but if we have the interest in asking and the capabilities

interest in asking and the capabilities

interest in asking and the capabilities of asking we ask the biology that shares

of asking we ask the biology that shares

of asking we ask the biology that shares the planet with us the biology besides

the planet with us the biology besides

the planet with us the biology besides us on earth it would have a very

us on earth it would have a very

us on earth it would have a very different story to tell us if we asked

different story to tell us if we asked

different story to tell us if we asked tigers or elephants or lions well they

tigers or elephants or lions well they

tigers or elephants or lions well they would tell us a story that feels a lot

would tell us a story that feels a lot

would tell us a story that feels a lot more like that day 66 million years ago

more like that day 66 million years ago

more like that day 66 million years ago now I’m a marine biologist so I want to

now I’m a marine biologist so I want to

now I’m a marine biologist so I want to pivot a little bit a lot of this science

pivot a little bit a lot of this science

pivot a little bit a lot of this science a lot of this research about a emerging

a lot of this research about a emerging

a lot of this research about a emerging mass extinction is drawn from data on

mass extinction is drawn from data on

mass extinction is drawn from data on land

land

land surely ecosystems I want us to ask in

surely ecosystems I want us to ask in

surely ecosystems I want us to ask in our time together is a mass extinction

our time together is a mass extinction

our time together is a mass extinction entering our oceans and that’s an

entering our oceans and that’s an

entering our oceans and that’s an incredibly important question the reason

incredibly important question the reason

incredibly important question the reason it’s so important at least one reasons

it’s so important at least one reasons

it’s so important at least one reasons it’s so important is because if you took

it’s so important is because if you took

it’s so important is because if you took all the space on our planet where life

all the space on our planet where life

all the space on our planet where life can exist and you added all of that

can exist and you added all of that

can exist and you added all of that space up ninety percent of the habitable

space up ninety percent of the habitable

space up ninety percent of the habitable space on our planet of all vice space

space on our planet of all vice space

space on our planet of all vice space would be oceans in essence then what

would be oceans in essence then what

would be oceans in essence then what we’re asking is is a mass extinction

we’re asking is is a mass extinction

we’re asking is is a mass extinction leaking into the ninety percent of our

leaking into the ninety percent of our

leaking into the ninety percent of our planet where life can exist this is

planet where life can exist this is

planet where life can exist this is obviously a question that we want a good

obviously a question that we want a good

obviously a question that we want a good answer to right before we reach forward

answer to right before we reach forward

answer to right before we reach forward towards that answer I’d like us to reach

towards that answer I’d like us to reach

towards that answer I’d like us to reach back a bit this is a timeline of

back a bit this is a timeline of

back a bit this is a timeline of extinction a timeline of human driven

extinction a timeline of human driven

extinction a timeline of human driven extinctions it takes us about 50,000

extinctions it takes us about 50,000

extinctions it takes us about 50,000 years back now the first data that I

years back now the first data that I

years back now the first data that I have up here are extinctions that were

have up here are extinctions that were

have up here are extinctions that were caused by people on land you’ll notice a

caused by people on land you’ll notice a

caused by people on land you’ll notice a couple things on this graph first that

couple things on this graph first that

couple things on this graph first that there’s a lot of green on the graph that

there’s a lot of green on the graph that

there’s a lot of green on the graph that shows that the body kind of extinction

shows that the body kind of extinction

shows that the body kind of extinction is quite high the other interesting

is quite high the other interesting

is quite high the other interesting thing about this graph is the dynamic of

thing about this graph is the dynamic of

thing about this graph is the dynamic of extinction there’s a pulsed nature to

extinction there’s a pulsed nature to

extinction there’s a pulsed nature to extinction essentially extinction

extinction essentially extinction

extinction essentially extinction follows in our footprints we arrived to

follows in our footprints we arrived to

follows in our footprints we arrived to Australia and we saw a pulse of

Australia and we saw a pulse of

Australia and we saw a pulse of extinction we headed out to the Americas

extinction we headed out to the Americas

extinction we headed out to the Americas about 14,000 years ago we saw a pulse of

about 14,000 years ago we saw a pulse of

about 14,000 years ago we saw a pulse of extinction than 500 years ago we were

extinction than 500 years ago we were

extinction than 500 years ago we were everywhere globalization had really

everywhere globalization had really

everywhere globalization had really ramped up we were about every niche on

ramped up we were about every niche on

ramped up we were about every niche on the planet we saw this gigantic spike of

the planet we saw this gigantic spike of

the planet we saw this gigantic spike of extinction over here this is what

extinction over here this is what

extinction over here this is what scientists are talking about when they

scientists are talking about when they

scientists are talking about when they mentioned a brand new and emerging mass

mentioned a brand new and emerging mass

mentioned a brand new and emerging mass extinction on our planet so what’s the

extinction on our planet so what’s the

extinction on our planet so what’s the story for oceans that’s the landing

story for oceans that’s the landing

story for oceans that’s the landing let’s put up the oceans data a very

let’s put up the oceans data a very

let’s put up the oceans data a very different story there’s a lot of silence

different story there’s a lot of silence

different story there’s a lot of silence in this timeline all the way up into

in this timeline all the way up into

in this timeline all the way up into this point to the last 500 years in the

this point to the last 500 years in the

this point to the last 500 years in the last 500 years we finally see the first

last 500 years we finally see the first

last 500 years we finally see the first blip on the radar screen of extinction

blip on the radar screen of extinction

blip on the radar screen of extinction in the oceans if we can zoom in a bit

in the oceans if we can zoom in a bit

in the oceans if we can zoom in a bit and the last 500 years for extinction

and the last 500 years for extinction

and the last 500 years for extinction you can really draw out this story very

you can really draw out this story very

you can really draw out this story very well and the contrast in this story on

well and the contrast in this story on

well and the contrast in this story on land we see this skyrocketing rate of

land we see this skyrocketing rate of

land we see this skyrocketing rate of extinction in the oceans the varied

extinction in the oceans the varied

extinction in the oceans the varied story we have it essentially this lovely

story we have it essentially this lovely

story we have it essentially this lovely beautiful flat line for extinction in

beautiful flat line for extinction in

beautiful flat line for extinction in the oceans and this is wonderful news

the oceans and this is wonderful news

the oceans and this is wonderful news this is incredibly optimistic right if

this is incredibly optimistic right if

this is incredibly optimistic right if you actually add up the numbers in the

you actually add up the numbers in the

you actually add up the numbers in the last 500 years on land we’ve seen over

last 500 years on land we’ve seen over

last 500 years on land we’ve seen over 500 animal species that have gone

500 animal species that have gone

500 animal species that have gone extinct in the same time period we’ve

extinct in the same time period we’ve

extinct in the same time period we’ve only seen 15 animal extinctions in the

only seen 15 animal extinctions in the

only seen 15 animal extinctions in the oceans this is a view of some of the

oceans this is a view of some of the

oceans this is a view of some of the faces of the ocean animal 15 when I

faces of the ocean animal 15 when I

faces of the ocean animal 15 when I sometimes call the oceans 15 now how how

sometimes call the oceans 15 now how how

sometimes call the oceans 15 now how how good how stable how tenuous is this good

good how stable how tenuous is this good

good how stable how tenuous is this good news right this is truly good news for

news right this is truly good news for

news right this is truly good news for oceans we can answer that question a bit

oceans we can answer that question a bit

oceans we can answer that question a bit by a hypothetical we can take all of the

by a hypothetical we can take all of the

by a hypothetical we can take all of the animal species that are endangered in

animal species that are endangered in

animal species that are endangered in the oceans and these are all the species

the oceans and these are all the species

the oceans and these are all the species that scientists say are at risk for

that scientists say are at risk for

that scientists say are at risk for extinction and we can hypothetically

extinction and we can hypothetically

extinction and we can hypothetically push them extinct if we do that what

push them extinct if we do that what

push them extinct if we do that what that does is takes us from this flat

that does is takes us from this flat

that does is takes us from this flat line space and it takes a skyrocketing

line space and it takes a skyrocketing

line space and it takes a skyrocketing all the way up into this space

all the way up into this space

all the way up into this space unfortunately it seems that we are

unfortunately it seems that we are

unfortunately it seems that we are sitting on an extinction cliff in the

sitting on an extinction cliff in the

sitting on an extinction cliff in the oceans there are hundreds of species

oceans there are hundreds of species

oceans there are hundreds of species unfortunately amazing species

unfortunately amazing species

unfortunately amazing species ecologically important species things

ecologically important species things

ecologically important species things like sea otters and sea turtles and

like sea otters and sea turtles and

like sea otters and sea turtles and sharks and dolphins and whales and

sharks and dolphins and whales and

sharks and dolphins and whales and porpoises that are hanging their

porpoises that are hanging their

porpoises that are hanging their flippers or their fins just off the edge

flippers or their fins just off the edge

flippers or their fins just off the edge of this cliff it would be all too easy

of this cliff it would be all too easy

of this cliff it would be all too easy for us to create a mass extinction in

for us to create a mass extinction in

for us to create a mass extinction in our oceans so how do we prevent that

our oceans so how do we prevent that

our oceans so how do we prevent that from happening how do we keep a mass

from happening how do we keep a mass

from happening how do we keep a mass extinction from leaking into our oceans

extinction from leaking into our oceans

extinction from leaking into our oceans the answer for me is to figure out what

the answer for me is to figure out what

the answer for me is to figure out what happened here what happened in the green

happened here what happened in the green

happened here what happened in the green line on land when things went from this

line on land when things went from this

line on land when things went from this comfortable flat line of background

comfortable flat line of background

comfortable flat line of background extinctions and then worked up into this

extinctions and then worked up into this

extinctions and then worked up into this mass extinction space I’ll tell you what

mass extinction space I’ll tell you what

mass extinction space I’ll tell you what I think the answer is what changed about

I think the answer is what changed about

I think the answer is what changed about that time so this period here this shift

that time so this period here this shift

that time so this period here this shift in the extinction curve really sort of

in the extinction curve really sort of

in the extinction curve really sort of changed about the time of the Industrial

changed about the time of the Industrial

changed about the time of the Industrial Revolution now it was a very different

Revolution now it was a very different

Revolution now it was a very different period for humans relationship with life

period for humans relationship with life

period for humans relationship with life on land and this is a timeline again

on land and this is a timeline again

on land and this is a timeline again takes us back the same time period

takes us back the same time period

takes us back the same time period 50,000 years

50,000 years

50,000 years you can see this ain’t changing

you can see this ain’t changing

you can see this ain’t changing influence that we’ve had on both

influence that we’ve had on both

influence that we’ve had on both terrestrial on land-based and on aquatic

terrestrial on land-based and on aquatic

terrestrial on land-based and on aquatic on marine ecosystems we’ve been driving

on marine ecosystems we’ve been driving

on marine ecosystems we’ve been driving as we looked at extinction for a long

as we looked at extinction for a long

as we looked at extinction for a long time on land much of that early

time on land much of that early

time on land much of that early extinction though was caused by direct

extinction though was caused by direct

extinction though was caused by direct hunting in this very space we were

hunting in this very space we were

hunting in this very space we were sharing today there used to be mamus and

sharing today there used to be mamus and

sharing today there used to be mamus and gigantic ground sloths sloths that were

gigantic ground sloths sloths that were

gigantic ground sloths sloths that were three times taller than I am right when

three times taller than I am right when

three times taller than I am right when we arrived to North America hunting

we arrived to North America hunting

we arrived to North America hunting direct hunting of these species

direct hunting of these species

direct hunting of these species contributed to their extinction now if

contributed to their extinction now if

contributed to their extinction now if you fast forward from that period all

you fast forward from that period all

you fast forward from that period all the way up to the Industrial Revolution

the way up to the Industrial Revolution

the way up to the Industrial Revolution something changed our species humanity

something changed our species humanity

something changed our species humanity became less interested in hunting

became less interested in hunting

became less interested in hunting species directly in hunting animals

species directly in hunting animals

species directly in hunting animals directly and hunting their homes in

directly and hunting their homes in

directly and hunting their homes in modifying altering you sir paying

modifying altering you sir paying

modifying altering you sir paying habitats and ecosystems and this was a

habitats and ecosystems and this was a

habitats and ecosystems and this was a game changer for extinction and sort of

game changer for extinction and sort of

game changer for extinction and sort of intuitively understand that right if you

intuitively understand that right if you

intuitively understand that right if you hunt a deer species a single deer

hunt a deer species a single deer

hunt a deer species a single deer species and you / enthusiastically

species and you / enthusiastically

species and you / enthusiastically pursue that deer species well there is a

pursue that deer species well there is a

pursue that deer species well there is a good risk that you could drive that deer

good risk that you could drive that deer

good risk that you could drive that deer species extinct if you instead hunt a

species extinct if you instead hunt a

species extinct if you instead hunt a forest if you switch to hunting a forest

forest if you switch to hunting a forest

forest if you switch to hunting a forest and you wipe out that force well you’ll

and you wipe out that force well you’ll

and you wipe out that force well you’ll certainly wipe out the trees that make

certainly wipe out the trees that make

certainly wipe out the trees that make up that force but you’re also putting at

up that force but you’re also putting at

up that force but you’re also putting at risk the hundreds of species they call

risk the hundreds of species they call

risk the hundreds of species they call that forest home that ups the ante

that forest home that ups the ante

that forest home that ups the ante furred extinction that’s what happened

furred extinction that’s what happened

furred extinction that’s what happened and that’s my opinion of what happened

and that’s my opinion of what happened

and that’s my opinion of what happened that triggered this mass extinction on

that triggered this mass extinction on

that triggered this mass extinction on land so that raises some important

land so that raises some important

land so that raises some important questions write the questions are is it

questions write the questions are is it

questions write the questions are is it are any of these conditions is there any

are any of these conditions is there any

are any of these conditions is there any evidence that a mass extinction or any

evidence that a mass extinction or any

evidence that a mass extinction or any evidence that an industrial revolution

evidence that an industrial revolution

evidence that an industrial revolution the kind of thing that we observed on

the kind of thing that we observed on

the kind of thing that we observed on land that is replicating itself in the

land that is replicating itself in the

land that is replicating itself in the oceans is there any evidence that we’re

oceans is there any evidence that we’re

oceans is there any evidence that we’re beginning to use the oceans in brand new

beginning to use the oceans in brand new

beginning to use the oceans in brand new ways that may affect habitats at large

ways that may affect habitats at large

ways that may affect habitats at large scales because if that was a trigger for

scales because if that was a trigger for

scales because if that was a trigger for extinction on land perhaps that’s also a

extinction on land perhaps that’s also a

extinction on land perhaps that’s also a trigger for extinction in the oceans

trigger for extinction in the oceans

trigger for extinction in the oceans let’s look at some shifts let’s look at

let’s look at some shifts let’s look at

let’s look at some shifts let’s look at some patterns the first mining mining in

some patterns the first mining mining in

some patterns the first mining mining in the oceans used to be a matter of

the oceans used to be a matter of

the oceans used to be a matter of science fiction right now it is real we

science fiction right now it is real we

science fiction right now it is real we have three hundred ton waterproof robots

have three hundred ton waterproof robots

have three hundred ton waterproof robots that we can send down to the deepest

that we can send down to the deepest

that we can send down to the deepest parts of the ocean to grind up ocean

parts of the ocean to grind up ocean

parts of the ocean to grind up ocean ecosystems and and suck

ecosystems and and suck

ecosystems and and suck up the minerals that are in them this is

up the minerals that are in them this is

up the minerals that are in them this is a complicated one because in all of that

a complicated one because in all of that

a complicated one because in all of that mineral that we’re extracting are things

mineral that we’re extracting are things

mineral that we’re extracting are things that you find in my iphone in my laptop

that you find in my iphone in my laptop

that you find in my iphone in my laptop in hybrid cars but they’re also

in hybrid cars but they’re also

in hybrid cars but they’re also critically important habitats for myriad

critically important habitats for myriad

critically important habitats for myriad truly unique deep-sea species we’ve

truly unique deep-sea species we’ve

truly unique deep-sea species we’ve already gazetted over a million square

already gazetted over a million square

already gazetted over a million square kilometers in just a decade of hat

kilometers in just a decade of hat

kilometers in just a decade of hat unless in just the last decade of half

unless in just the last decade of half

unless in just the last decade of half in the oceans that’s a major shift and

in the oceans that’s a major shift and

in the oceans that’s a major shift and how people are using habitats in space

how people are using habitats in space

how people are using habitats in space in the sea another change this is a

in the sea another change this is a

in the sea another change this is a tract of marine offshore wind energy we

tract of marine offshore wind energy we

tract of marine offshore wind energy we are building power plants under the sea

are building power plants under the sea

are building power plants under the sea now at a very fast pace we’re in

now at a very fast pace we’re in

now at a very fast pace we’re in addition to harvesting offshore wind

addition to harvesting offshore wind

addition to harvesting offshore wind we’re harvesting tidal energy and wave

we’re harvesting tidal energy and wave

we’re harvesting tidal energy and wave energy ocean thermal energy now this is

energy ocean thermal energy now this is

energy ocean thermal energy now this is important this is something we

important this is something we

important this is something we absolutely are going to want to do in

absolutely are going to want to do in

absolutely are going to want to do in our oceans because this is low carbon

our oceans because this is low carbon

our oceans because this is low carbon energy if you really want to trigger a

energy if you really want to trigger a

energy if you really want to trigger a mass extinction in the sea you can do

mass extinction in the sea you can do

mass extinction in the sea you can do that by letting climate change advanced

that by letting climate change advanced

that by letting climate change advanced acidify and overheat the oceans that’s

acidify and overheat the oceans that’s

acidify and overheat the oceans that’s going to be bad news very soon so we

going to be bad news very soon so we

going to be bad news very soon so we need this low carbon energy but we also

need this low carbon energy but we also

need this low carbon energy but we also have to remember that this is a lot of

have to remember that this is a lot of

have to remember that this is a lot of new stuff a lot of human hardware that’s

new stuff a lot of human hardware that’s

new stuff a lot of human hardware that’s plopping itself down onto ocean

plopping itself down onto ocean

plopping itself down onto ocean ecosystems in the way of migrating ocean

ecosystems in the way of migrating ocean

ecosystems in the way of migrating ocean animals so it’s complicated also another

animals so it’s complicated also another

animals so it’s complicated also another change in our oceans traffic is

change in our oceans traffic is

change in our oceans traffic is increasing here’s a now-familiar this

increasing here’s a now-familiar this

increasing here’s a now-familiar this now familiar exponential growth in

now familiar exponential growth in

now familiar exponential growth in traffic in the sea traffic brings all of

traffic in the sea traffic brings all of

traffic in the sea traffic brings all of the same problems in the oceans that it

the same problems in the oceans that it

the same problems in the oceans that it causes on land so you have more noise

causes on land so you have more noise

causes on land so you have more noise and more pollution and increased

and more pollution and increased

and more pollution and increased movement of invasive species you even

movement of invasive species you even

movement of invasive species you even get roadkill in the oceans we have

get roadkill in the oceans we have

get roadkill in the oceans we have roadkill and the oceans what happens you

roadkill and the oceans what happens you

roadkill and the oceans what happens you have ships that run into Wales and some

have ships that run into Wales and some

have ships that run into Wales and some of these are endangered whale species

of these are endangered whale species

of these are endangered whale species and are truly be and being inhibited

and are truly be and being inhibited

and are truly be and being inhibited from recovery as a result of these

from recovery as a result of these

from recovery as a result of these collisions at sea this one’s also

collisions at sea this one’s also

collisions at sea this one’s also complicated right everything that I’m

complicated right everything that I’m

complicated right everything that I’m wearing today came across and a ship

wearing today came across and a ship

wearing today came across and a ship that traveled in this in these traffics

that traveled in this in these traffics

that traveled in this in these traffics in this massive traffic that’s out there

in this massive traffic that’s out there

in this massive traffic that’s out there on the Pacific a last indicator of a

on the Pacific a last indicator of a

on the Pacific a last indicator of a changing use of the oceans we are

changing use of the oceans we are

changing use of the oceans we are becoming industrial strength farmers

becoming industrial strength farmers

becoming industrial strength farmers under the oceans this is a true game

under the oceans this is a true game

under the oceans this is a true game changer here is just exponential growth

changer here is just exponential growth

changer here is just exponential growth in shrimp farming as you can see under

in shrimp farming as you can see under

in shrimp farming as you can see under the oceans

the oceans

the oceans dozens of other kinds of sectors of

dozens of other kinds of sectors of

dozens of other kinds of sectors of farming are increasing at the same

farming are increasing at the same

farming are increasing at the same rapidity 2014 was the first year ever

rapidity 2014 was the first year ever

rapidity 2014 was the first year ever that humanity eight more fish that came

that humanity eight more fish that came

that humanity eight more fish that came from farms then came from the wild

from farms then came from the wild

from farms then came from the wild that’s huge that’s as big as the event

that’s huge that’s as big as the event

that’s huge that’s as big as the event on land when we shifted from hunting and

on land when we shifted from hunting and

on land when we shifted from hunting and gathering our dinner out in the wild and

gathering our dinner out in the wild and

gathering our dinner out in the wild and we started growing at home that’s what’s

we started growing at home that’s what’s

we started growing at home that’s what’s happening now in our ocean that’s a

happening now in our ocean that’s a

happening now in our ocean that’s a brand new underwater revolution for

brand new underwater revolution for

brand new underwater revolution for agriculture for aquaculture this is

agriculture for aquaculture this is

agriculture for aquaculture this is something this is a revolution that we

something this is a revolution that we

something this is a revolution that we absolutely need to get right there’s

absolutely need to get right there’s

absolutely need to get right there’s dirty aquaculture and there’s clean

dirty aquaculture and there’s clean

dirty aquaculture and there’s clean aquaculture dirty aquaculture as a

aquaculture dirty aquaculture as a

aquaculture dirty aquaculture as a footprint that sits right down on fish

footprint that sits right down on fish

footprint that sits right down on fish nursery habitat some produces lots of

nursery habitat some produces lots of

nursery habitat some produces lots of pollutants clean aquaculture on the

pollutants clean aquaculture on the

pollutants clean aquaculture on the other hand produces new nutrition and

other hand produces new nutrition and

other hand produces new nutrition and new food that were to need for the

new food that were to need for the

new food that were to need for the millions of new neighbors we’re going to

millions of new neighbors we’re going to

millions of new neighbors we’re going to have on our planet maybe you can help

have on our planet maybe you can help

have on our planet maybe you can help take pressure off at risk wild fish

take pressure off at risk wild fish

take pressure off at risk wild fish stocks collectively all of these views

stocks collectively all of these views

stocks collectively all of these views of a changing use of the oceans add up

of a changing use of the oceans add up

of a changing use of the oceans add up and add up for me to suggest that we are

and add up for me to suggest that we are

and add up for me to suggest that we are taking baby steps forward in an

taking baby steps forward in an

taking baby steps forward in an industrial revolution in the oceans now

industrial revolution in the oceans now

industrial revolution in the oceans now that matters baby steps forward this is

that matters baby steps forward this is

that matters baby steps forward this is just beginning my colleagues on land

just beginning my colleagues on land

just beginning my colleagues on land there that are facing off against mass

there that are facing off against mass

there that are facing off against mass extinction try to decide how to use

extinction try to decide how to use

extinction try to decide how to use science to help they’re there they’re

science to help they’re there they’re

science to help they’re there they’re facing off against the train that has

facing off against the train that has

facing off against the train that has like a hundred years of momentum that’s

like a hundred years of momentum that’s

like a hundred years of momentum that’s bearing down on them in the oceans we

bearing down on them in the oceans we

bearing down on them in the oceans we have a decision we have some exciting

have a decision we have some exciting

have a decision we have some exciting decisions to make about how this happens

decisions to make about how this happens

decisions to make about how this happens if this starts so how to prevent a mass

if this starts so how to prevent a mass

if this starts so how to prevent a mass extinction from beginning my solution is

extinction from beginning my solution is

extinction from beginning my solution is that we intelligently engage this

that we intelligently engage this

that we intelligently engage this industrial growth and we see this

industrial growth and we see this

industrial growth and we see this industrial growth beginning or wise

industrial growth beginning or wise

industrial growth beginning or wise enough to see it coming down the train

enough to see it coming down the train

enough to see it coming down the train tracks for the ocean that’s not saying

tracks for the ocean that’s not saying

tracks for the ocean that’s not saying stop it that’s saying intelligently

stop it that’s saying intelligently

stop it that’s saying intelligently engage it which is a different kind of

engage it which is a different kind of

engage it which is a different kind of answer right the way that I view this is

answer right the way that I view this is

answer right the way that I view this is that if I had a time machine and I could

that if I had a time machine and I could

that if I had a time machine and I could zoom all the way back to the beginning

zoom all the way back to the beginning

zoom all the way back to the beginning of the Industrial Revolution on land and

of the Industrial Revolution on land and

of the Industrial Revolution on land and I could take with me all that we know

I could take with me all that we know

I could take with me all that we know about the inextricable links between

about the inextricable links between

about the inextricable links between human health and environmental health

human health and environmental health

human health and environmental health well I would have done dozens of things

well I would have done dozens of things

well I would have done dozens of things different in that industrial evolution

different in that industrial evolution

different in that industrial evolution on land I would have engaged the

on land I would have engaged the

on land I would have engaged the prosperity would engage the growth but I

prosperity would engage the growth but I

prosperity would engage the growth but I would have made that growth

would have made that growth

would have made that growth meaner and smarter and greener that’s

meaner and smarter and greener that’s

meaner and smarter and greener that’s what we need for an industrial

what we need for an industrial

what we need for an industrial revolution the oceans we need to make it

revolution the oceans we need to make it

revolution the oceans we need to make it cleaner and smarter and greener this is

cleaner and smarter and greener this is

cleaner and smarter and greener this is downtown Los Angeles or not far from

downtown Los Angeles or not far from

downtown Los Angeles or not far from downtown Los Angeles this is where I was

downtown Los Angeles this is where I was

downtown Los Angeles this is where I was born this is where I grew up this once

born this is where I grew up this once

born this is where I grew up this once was the Wild West of America and it’s as

was the Wild West of America and it’s as

was the Wild West of America and it’s as you can see not so terribly wild anymore

you can see not so terribly wild anymore

you can see not so terribly wild anymore it’s easy to forget that in only 85

it’s easy to forget that in only 85

it’s easy to forget that in only 85 years this barely biodiverse this fairly

years this barely biodiverse this fairly

years this barely biodiverse this fairly wild space on our planet turned into

wild space on our planet turned into

wild space on our planet turned into something that looks like this as a kid

something that looks like this as a kid

something that looks like this as a kid that grew up though in this very space a

that grew up though in this very space a

that grew up though in this very space a kid that wanted like all of us to get

kid that wanted like all of us to get

kid that wanted like all of us to get into nature to recharge in nature the

into nature to recharge in nature the

into nature to recharge in nature the only thing I had to do though was to

only thing I had to do though was to

only thing I had to do though was to jump on this very favorite freeway drive

jump on this very favorite freeway drive

jump on this very favorite freeway drive down to the coastline put on a mask dive

down to the coastline put on a mask dive

down to the coastline put on a mask dive underwater and and there I was I was in

underwater and and there I was I was in

underwater and and there I was I was in it I was in the company of two hundred

it I was in the company of two hundred

it I was in the company of two hundred kilogram giant sea bass I was sharing

kilogram giant sea bass I was sharing

kilogram giant sea bass I was sharing space with two thousand kilogram great

space with two thousand kilogram great

space with two thousand kilogram great white sharks I could surface after one

white sharks I could surface after one

white sharks I could surface after one of these dives and and just listen to

of these dives and and just listen to

of these dives and and just listen to the breath of 20,000 kilogram gray

the breath of 20,000 kilogram gray

the breath of 20,000 kilogram gray whales as they migrated with their

whales as they migrated with their

whales as they migrated with their families down the coast the Wild West

families down the coast the Wild West

families down the coast the Wild West was very much still alive it was just a

was very much still alive it was just a

was very much still alive it was just a live underwater I’m not suggesting that

live underwater I’m not suggesting that

live underwater I’m not suggesting that in 85 years the oceans are going to look

in 85 years the oceans are going to look

in 85 years the oceans are going to look like downtown Los Angeles but I am

like downtown Los Angeles but I am

like downtown Los Angeles but I am suggesting that in the next century the

suggesting that in the next century the

suggesting that in the next century the ocean is going to look a lot different

ocean is going to look a lot different

ocean is going to look a lot different than they do today and we have to

than they do today and we have to

than they do today and we have to anticipate that this change is coming

anticipate that this change is coming

anticipate that this change is coming because it is our second chance and

because it is our second chance and

because it is our second chance and nature very rarely gives us second

nature very rarely gives us second

nature very rarely gives us second chances this is our second chance to get

chances this is our second chance to get

chances this is our second chance to get industrialization right for our planet

industrialization right for our planet

industrialization right for our planet and if we succeed in getting this right

and if we succeed in getting this right

and if we succeed in getting this right what we can do is immense we can stop

what we can do is immense we can stop

what we can do is immense we can stop this mass extinction that is circling in

this mass extinction that is circling in

this mass extinction that is circling in tighter and tighter

tighter and tighter

tighter and tighter circles around us on land we can stop

circles around us on land we can stop

circles around us on land we can stop this mass extinction from leaking into

this mass extinction from leaking into

this mass extinction from leaking into our oceans thank you

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