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[Music] so let’s talk a little bit about space

so let’s talk a little bit about space

so let’s talk a little bit about space junk and space traffic which is the next

junk and space traffic which is the next

junk and space traffic which is the next wicked problem that we as a society face

wicked problem that we as a society face

wicked problem that we as a society face I’m an astronomic means that I study the

I’m an astronomic means that I study the

I’m an astronomic means that I study the motion of objects in space and know we

motion of objects in space and know we

motion of objects in space and know we all don’t wear what I’m wearing right

all don’t wear what I’m wearing right

all don’t wear what I’m wearing right now so interestingly enough you know

now so interestingly enough you know

now so interestingly enough you know from the dawn of the Space Age it all

from the dawn of the Space Age it all

from the dawn of the Space Age it all started with one single satellite which

started with one single satellite which

started with one single satellite which was Sputnik and it was an object of one

was Sputnik and it was an object of one

was Sputnik and it was an object of one and we had this space race and it was

and we had this space race and it was

and we had this space race and it was the u.s. versus the Soviet Union and the

the u.s. versus the Soviet Union and the

the u.s. versus the Soviet Union and the interesting thing is we have a lot of

interesting thing is we have a lot of

interesting thing is we have a lot of objects in space it’s not just a couple

objects in space it’s not just a couple

objects in space it’s not just a couple it’s not just a few countries it’s lots

it’s not just a few countries it’s lots

it’s not just a few countries it’s lots of countries lots of objects and

of countries lots of objects and

of countries lots of objects and unfortunately there’s a big problem with

unfortunately there’s a big problem with

unfortunately there’s a big problem with all these objects that kind of impending

all these objects that kind of impending

all these objects that kind of impending doom of sorts but rest assured your

doom of sorts but rest assured your

doom of sorts but rest assured your lives are in danger yet but our way of

lives are in danger yet but our way of

lives are in danger yet but our way of life is certainly something that could

life is certainly something that could

life is certainly something that could be threatened because all of us depend

be threatened because all of us depend

be threatened because all of us depend on space services and capabilities all

on space services and capabilities all

on space services and capabilities all of us have this cool little cell phone I

of us have this cool little cell phone I

of us have this cool little cell phone I definitely use it I don’t remember the

definitely use it I don’t remember the

definitely use it I don’t remember the last time I actually pulled out a map to

last time I actually pulled out a map to

last time I actually pulled out a map to go from point A to point B I have this

go from point A to point B I have this

go from point A to point B I have this nice dot that tells me turn left and 500

nice dot that tells me turn left and 500

nice dot that tells me turn left and 500 feet that sort of thing all of us are

feet that sort of thing all of us are

feet that sort of thing all of us are accustomed to watching TV and seeing our

accustomed to watching TV and seeing our

accustomed to watching TV and seeing our favorite sports channels sometimes the

favorite sports channels sometimes the

favorite sports channels sometimes the weather the hurricane that just happened

weather the hurricane that just happened

weather the hurricane that just happened right we had a lot of warning that this

right we had a lot of warning that this

right we had a lot of warning that this was happening

was happening

was happening it wasn’t like all of a sudden this hit

it wasn’t like all of a sudden this hit

it wasn’t like all of a sudden this hit without any sort of notice we actually

without any sort of notice we actually

without any sort of notice we actually knew when this is happening where it’s

knew when this is happening where it’s

knew when this is happening where it’s going so all of these things depend on

going so all of these things depend on

going so all of these things depend on space services and capability is very

space services and capability is very

space services and capability is very important stuff so what am I talking

important stuff so what am I talking

important stuff so what am I talking about here when I talk about all this

about here when I talk about all this

about here when I talk about all this traffic and space so here we go so this

traffic and space so here we go so this

traffic and space so here we go so this is a nice little video from NASA’s

is a nice little video from NASA’s

is a nice little video from NASA’s orbital beep program office at Johnson

orbital beep program office at Johnson

orbital beep program office at Johnson Space Center Houston and interestingly

Space Center Houston and interestingly

Space Center Houston and interestingly enough the US Department of Defense

enough the US Department of Defense

enough the US Department of Defense maintains a catalogue of 20

maintains a catalogue of 20

maintains a catalogue of 20 two thousand things the size of a

two thousand things the size of a

two thousand things the size of a softball and large size of this cell

softball and large size of this cell

softball and large size of this cell phone in larger twenty-two thousand

phone in larger twenty-two thousand

phone in larger twenty-two thousand things and out of those twenty two

things and out of those twenty two

things and out of those twenty two thousand things only about 1400 of those

thousand things only about 1400 of those

thousand things only about 1400 of those things work and everything else is

things work and everything else is

things work and everything else is garbage everything else is garbage and

garbage everything else is garbage and

garbage everything else is garbage and the thing is most of that stuff it

the thing is most of that stuff it

the thing is most of that stuff it doesn’t come back it just stays up there

doesn’t come back it just stays up there

doesn’t come back it just stays up there in perpetuity

in perpetuity

in perpetuity it’s just orbiting around and the thing

it’s just orbiting around and the thing

it’s just orbiting around and the thing is even something as small as a coin

is even something as small as a coin

is even something as small as a coin hitting you at a very fast fast speed

hitting you at a very fast fast speed

hitting you at a very fast fast speed could also disable your satellite

could also disable your satellite

could also disable your satellite disable your mission GPS could be

disable your mission GPS could be

disable your mission GPS could be disabled by debris that could happen and

disabled by debris that could happen and

disabled by debris that could happen and so things in sufficiently low Earth

so things in sufficiently low Earth

so things in sufficiently low Earth orbit those things kind of reenter in

orbit those things kind of reenter in

orbit those things kind of reenter in fact on average about one to three

fact on average about one to three

fact on average about one to three objects per day reentrant burns up in

objects per day reentrant burns up in

objects per day reentrant burns up in the atmosphere some of them survive

the atmosphere some of them survive

the atmosphere some of them survive which is kind of scary to think about

which is kind of scary to think about

which is kind of scary to think about thankfully most of the planets covered

thankfully most of the planets covered

thankfully most of the planets covered by ocean so most of that comes into the

by ocean so most of that comes into the

by ocean so most of that comes into the ocean but most of that stuff stays up

ocean but most of that stuff stays up

ocean but most of that stuff stays up there and the thing is even if we didn’t

there and the thing is even if we didn’t

there and the thing is even if we didn’t launch anything else that population is

launch anything else that population is

launch anything else that population is self-growing because on average every

self-growing because on average every

self-growing because on average every two to five years things collide with

two to five years things collide with

two to five years things collide with each other and they become more and more

each other and they become more and more

each other and they become more and more objects so it’s a thing it’s not so good

objects so it’s a thing it’s not so good

objects so it’s a thing it’s not so good it’s kind of a problem and whose problem

it’s kind of a problem and whose problem

it’s kind of a problem and whose problem is it who has a responsibility and we’re

is it who has a responsibility and we’re

is it who has a responsibility and we’re going to talk a little bit about that

going to talk a little bit about that

going to talk a little bit about that moving forward so space is kind of like

moving forward so space is kind of like

moving forward so space is kind of like the Wild West

the Wild West

the Wild West in many respects and and and why do I

in many respects and and and why do I

in many respects and and and why do I say that I say that because there’s this

say that I say that because there’s this

say that I say that because there’s this kind of lawlessness there’s no kind of

kind of lawlessness there’s no kind of

kind of lawlessness there’s no kind of rule of law governing what happens in

rule of law governing what happens in

rule of law governing what happens in space necessarily it’s kind of like the

space necessarily it’s kind of like the

space necessarily it’s kind of like the Wild West that way by the way there’s a

Wild West that way by the way there’s a

Wild West that way by the way there’s a lot of money that’s being had from space

lot of money that’s being had from space

lot of money that’s being had from space services and capabilities it’s not just

services and capabilities it’s not just

services and capabilities it’s not just communications but I’ve talked to

communications but I’ve talked to

communications but I’ve talked to venture capitalists and angel investors

venture capitalists and angel investors

venture capitalists and angel investors and it’s that kind of what’s the quick

and it’s that kind of what’s the quick

and it’s that kind of what’s the quick return on my investment how can I put

return on my investment how can I put

return on my investment how can I put something on orbit and I hear things

something on orbit and I hear things

something on orbit and I hear things like pixels for dollars people want to

like pixels for dollars people want to

like pixels for dollars people want to have information on tap we heard earlier

have information on tap we heard earlier

have information on tap we heard earlier about how we have so much information

about how we have so much information

about how we have so much information these days and how that is just doubling

these days and how that is just doubling

these days and how that is just doubling and quadrupling in size on a daily basis

and quadrupling in size on a daily basis

and quadrupling in size on a daily basis kind of thing

kind of thing

kind of thing and so there’s a lot of information that

and so there’s a lot of information that

and so there’s a lot of information that is out there to be had and people have

is out there to be had and people have

is out there to be had and people have noticed that and by the way being able

noticed that and by the way being able

noticed that and by the way being able to have things that look down people

to have things that look down people

to have things that look down people want to have live stream video of what’s

want to have live stream video of what’s

want to have live stream video of what’s going on on the surface of the planet 24

going on on the surface of the planet 24

going on on the surface of the planet 24 hours a day seven days a week all the

hours a day seven days a week all the

hours a day seven days a week all the time so can you imagine just having on

time so can you imagine just having on

time so can you imagine just having on your cell phone seeing who went to the

your cell phone seeing who went to the

your cell phone seeing who went to the grocery store who didn’t I mean we

grocery store who didn’t I mean we

grocery store who didn’t I mean we talked about privacy earlier I’m telling

talked about privacy earlier I’m telling

talked about privacy earlier I’m telling you that’s out of the window with these

you that’s out of the window with these

you that’s out of the window with these constellations of satellites going up

constellations of satellites going up

constellations of satellites going up and just collecting all this data and

and just collecting all this data and

and just collecting all this data and selling it to the highest bidder

selling it to the highest bidder

selling it to the highest bidder I’m afraid that maybe you know privacy

I’m afraid that maybe you know privacy

I’m afraid that maybe you know privacy is something that needs to be relooked

is something that needs to be relooked

is something that needs to be relooked at right also the price of going to

at right also the price of going to

at right also the price of going to space that’s becoming cheaper and with

space that’s becoming cheaper and with

space that’s becoming cheaper and with cheaper access to space it’s kind of

cheaper access to space it’s kind of

cheaper access to space it’s kind of like the Transcontinental Railroad which

like the Transcontinental Railroad which

like the Transcontinental Railroad which connected the east coast to the west

connected the east coast to the west

connected the east coast to the west coast I mean once this happened

coast I mean once this happened

coast I mean once this happened businesses just started thriving

businesses just started thriving

businesses just started thriving businesses boomed but with the cost of

businesses boomed but with the cost of

businesses boomed but with the cost of getting the space becoming cheaper more

getting the space becoming cheaper more

getting the space becoming cheaper more and more people just putting stuff up

and more people just putting stuff up

and more people just putting stuff up there but there’s not a whole lot of

there but there’s not a whole lot of

there but there’s not a whole lot of regard to pollution and so back in the

regard to pollution and so back in the

regard to pollution and so back in the mining days you know you had mercury

mining days you know you had mercury

mining days you know you had mercury deposits you had silt in the water that

deposits you had silt in the water that

deposits you had silt in the water that sort of stuff it’s not like those the

sort of stuff it’s not like those the

sort of stuff it’s not like those the EPA back in those days in the Wild West

EPA back in those days in the Wild West

EPA back in those days in the Wild West and guess what there’s no EPA for space

and guess what there’s no EPA for space

and guess what there’s no EPA for space there are people who care about it but

there are people who care about it but

there are people who care about it but there’s no kind of enforceable mechanism

there’s no kind of enforceable mechanism

there’s no kind of enforceable mechanism to do any of this stuff 22,000 things

to do any of this stuff 22,000 things

to do any of this stuff 22,000 things orbiting by the way the 22,000 things

orbiting by the way the 22,000 things

orbiting by the way the 22,000 things there’s actually more stuff and the

there’s actually more stuff and the

there’s actually more stuff and the 22,000 things are only the number of

22,000 things are only the number of

22,000 things are only the number of objects that were actually tracking so

objects that were actually tracking so

objects that were actually tracking so we’re facing what I call the tragedy of

we’re facing what I call the tragedy of

we’re facing what I call the tragedy of the Commons and what is that well turns

the Commons and what is that well turns

the Commons and what is that well turns out that there is this guy in 1833

out that there is this guy in 1833

out that there is this guy in 1833 William Foster Lloyd posited that when

William Foster Lloyd posited that when

William Foster Lloyd posited that when you have a shared resource a common

you have a shared resource a common

you have a shared resource a common resource with multiple players and all

resource with multiple players and all

resource with multiple players and all those players are acting independently

those players are acting independently

those players are acting independently and in self-interest that they tend to

and in self-interest that they tend to

and in self-interest that they tend to behave contrary to the benefit of the

behave contrary to the benefit of the

behave contrary to the benefit of the whole alright lots of words Murray what

whole alright lots of words Murray what

whole alright lots of words Murray what does that kind of mean well let’s assume

does that kind of mean well let’s assume

does that kind of mean well let’s assume that we’re all cattle grazers cattle

that we’re all cattle grazers cattle

that we’re all cattle grazers cattle herders not that I would like to do that

herders not that I would like to do that

herders not that I would like to do that but let’s just for the sake of argument

but let’s just for the sake of argument

but let’s just for the sake of argument say we’re all you know cattle herders

say we’re all you know cattle herders

say we’re all you know cattle herders and we had this common plot of lands

and we had this common plot of lands

and we had this common plot of lands and for each head of cattle right we get

and for each head of cattle right we get

and for each head of cattle right we get paid more more profit more heads of

paid more more profit more heads of

paid more more profit more heads of cattle but at some point if any one of

cattle but at some point if any one of

cattle but at some point if any one of us has too many cattle then there’s over

us has too many cattle then there’s over

us has too many cattle then there’s over grazing and then it hurts everybody

grazing and then it hurts everybody

grazing and then it hurts everybody that’s kind of the direction that we’re

that’s kind of the direction that we’re

that’s kind of the direction that we’re going on in space is that we have more

going on in space is that we have more

going on in space is that we have more and more participants more and more

and more participants more and more

and more participants more and more actors we started off with Sputnik and

actors we started off with Sputnik and

actors we started off with Sputnik and now from just a couple of countries now

now from just a couple of countries now

now from just a couple of countries now we have I think the United Nations

we have I think the United Nations

we have I think the United Nations recognizes well over 60 countries

recognizes well over 60 countries

recognizes well over 60 countries participating in space so it’s not just

participating in space so it’s not just

participating in space so it’s not just a couple now it’s like 60 of them

a couple now it’s like 60 of them

a couple now it’s like 60 of them tragedy of the Commons we don’t want

tragedy of the Commons we don’t want

tragedy of the Commons we don’t want that to happen

that to happen

that to happen so here’s this interesting plot and I’m

so here’s this interesting plot and I’m

so here’s this interesting plot and I’m not going to ask the people at the top

not going to ask the people at the top

not going to ask the people at the top row to read this but what I want to tell

row to read this but what I want to tell

row to read this but what I want to tell you is the following remember I showed

you is the following remember I showed

you is the following remember I showed you that video 22,000 things buzzing

you that video 22,000 things buzzing

you that video 22,000 things buzzing around the planet so there’s this

around the planet so there’s this

around the planet so there’s this interesting sensor developed by the US

interesting sensor developed by the US

interesting sensor developed by the US government through DARPA and MIT Lincoln

government through DARPA and MIT Lincoln

government through DARPA and MIT Lincoln Laboratory that sits in New Mexico not

Laboratory that sits in New Mexico not

Laboratory that sits in New Mexico not too far away from where my family

too far away from where my family

too far away from where my family actually lives and it’s a really cool

actually lives and it’s a really cool

actually lives and it’s a really cool sensor because the good news about Space

sensor because the good news about Space

sensor because the good news about Space Surveillance telescope is that it

Surveillance telescope is that it

Surveillance telescope is that it detects lots of stuff the bad news about

detects lots of stuff the bad news about

detects lots of stuff the bad news about the space debris was telescope is that

the space debris was telescope is that

the space debris was telescope is that it detects lots of stuff and so

it detects lots of stuff and so

it detects lots of stuff and so basically what you see behind me is you

basically what you see behind me is you

basically what you see behind me is you see a bunch of dots all of those dots

see a bunch of dots all of those dots

see a bunch of dots all of those dots are detectors it’s what the sensor

are detectors it’s what the sensor

are detectors it’s what the sensor detected on one night one night of

detected on one night one night of

detected on one night one night of detections

detections

detections of things in space the dots that are

of things in space the dots that are

of things in space the dots that are black are things that we know what they

black are things that we know what they

black are things that we know what they are the dots that are not black who

are the dots that are not black who

are the dots that are not black who knows we have no idea which dot of those

knows we have no idea which dot of those

knows we have no idea which dot of those could be harmful could be a threat is

could be harmful could be a threat is

could be harmful could be a threat is just a piece of something floating

just a piece of something floating

just a piece of something floating around or some satellite that’s trying

around or some satellite that’s trying

around or some satellite that’s trying to do something weird or freaky who

to do something weird or freaky who

to do something weird or freaky who knows so we have a problem we detect

knows so we have a problem we detect

knows so we have a problem we detect lots of things that we can’t track we

lots of things that we can’t track we

lots of things that we can’t track we don’t know their orbits we can’t figure

don’t know their orbits we can’t figure

don’t know their orbits we can’t figure out what they’re doing or how they’re

out what they’re doing or how they’re

out what they’re doing or how they’re behaving so it’s tough to regulate

behaving so it’s tough to regulate

behaving so it’s tough to regulate something when you don’t completely

something when you don’t completely

something when you don’t completely understand what’s going on all right so

understand what’s going on all right so

understand what’s going on all right so who’s involved in this whole business

who’s involved in this whole business

who’s involved in this whole business well turns out that you have governments

well turns out that you have governments

well turns out that you have governments involved not just the US government but

involved not just the US government but

involved not just the US government but you have the United Nations you have

you have the United Nations you have

you have the United Nations you have governments from all over the globe they

governments from all over the globe they

governments from all over the globe they care about this problem you have NGOs

care about this problem you have NGOs

care about this problem you have NGOs professional societies you have

professional societies you have

professional societies you have diversity x’ you have private industry

diversity x’ you have private industry

diversity x’ you have private industry so it’s a global problem it’s

so it’s a global problem it’s

so it’s a global problem it’s everybody’s problem because everybody

everybody’s problem because everybody

everybody’s problem because everybody many people depend on these services and

many people depend on these services and

many people depend on these services and capabilities from space but who’s

capabilities from space but who’s

capabilities from space but who’s responsible is the government’s well at

responsible is the government’s well at

responsible is the government’s well at some point governments put stuff up

some point governments put stuff up

some point governments put stuff up there but it’s not just governments

there but it’s not just governments

there but it’s not just governments these days certainly not professional

these days certainly not professional

these days certainly not professional societies academia lots of universities

societies academia lots of universities

societies academia lots of universities are saying hey I can put stuff in space

are saying hey I can put stuff in space

are saying hey I can put stuff in space I’m just going to dump a bunch of stuff

I’m just going to dump a bunch of stuff

I’m just going to dump a bunch of stuff into orbit but do they really understand

into orbit but do they really understand

into orbit but do they really understand all these risks right industry certainly

all these risks right industry certainly

all these risks right industry certainly Boeing’s Lockheed’s tons of companies

Boeing’s Lockheed’s tons of companies

Boeing’s Lockheed’s tons of companies they’re putting up stuff they want to

they’re putting up stuff they want to

they’re putting up stuff they want to put more stuff they want to bring you

put more stuff they want to bring you

put more stuff they want to bring you write this information on tap

write this information on tap

write this information on tap human-based activity all the time

human-based activity all the time

human-based activity all the time knowing what everybody’s doing what’s

knowing what everybody’s doing what’s

knowing what everybody’s doing what’s going on all this activity but it’s

going on all this activity but it’s

going on all this activity but it’s nobody’s just single claim nobody’s just

nobody’s just single claim nobody’s just

nobody’s just single claim nobody’s just going to strap this on and take this on

going to strap this on and take this on

going to strap this on and take this on wholeheartedly so what’s the

wholeheartedly so what’s the

wholeheartedly so what’s the government’s role in all this for sure

government’s role in all this for sure

government’s role in all this for sure one is to retire the risk invest in

one is to retire the risk invest in

one is to retire the risk invest in education right make make it such that

education right make make it such that

education right make make it such that now you can transition the technology to

now you can transition the technology to

now you can transition the technology to private industry regulate and enable

private industry regulate and enable

private industry regulate and enable people have said oh well whatever these

people have said oh well whatever these

people have said oh well whatever these people just self-regulated themselves

people just self-regulated themselves

people just self-regulated themselves right well turns out that the people

right well turns out that the people

right well turns out that the people already on orbit making a lot of money

already on orbit making a lot of money

already on orbit making a lot of money maybe they don’t want Jimmy to be part

maybe they don’t want Jimmy to be part

maybe they don’t want Jimmy to be part of that because they want the lion’s

of that because they want the lion’s

of that because they want the lion’s share

share

share so self-regulation maybe that’s not the

so self-regulation maybe that’s not the

so self-regulation maybe that’s not the answer certainly you want the government

answer certainly you want the government

answer certainly you want the government to be able to assess and enforce tough

to be able to assess and enforce tough

to be able to assess and enforce tough keep people safe much like you have

keep people safe much like you have

keep people safe much like you have people enforcing when people run red

people enforcing when people run red

people enforcing when people run red lights and that sort of stuff somehow

lights and that sort of stuff somehow

lights and that sort of stuff somehow there’s got to be some assessment and

there’s got to be some assessment and

there’s got to be some assessment and some enforcement what’s industry’s role

some enforcement what’s industry’s role

some enforcement what’s industry’s role certainly to get educated about the

certainly to get educated about the

certainly to get educated about the problem and support education act

problem and support education act

problem and support education act responsibly but we need to determine

responsibly but we need to determine

responsibly but we need to determine what is that what is responsibly and

what is that what is responsibly and

what is that what is responsibly and neighborhood-watch we don’t have enough

neighborhood-watch we don’t have enough

neighborhood-watch we don’t have enough data to see what’s going on everywhere

data to see what’s going on everywhere

data to see what’s going on everywhere all the time and we need to rely on the

all the time and we need to rely on the

all the time and we need to rely on the citizens of that community to kind of

citizens of that community to kind of

citizens of that community to kind of look out for each other as well so that

look out for each other as well so that

look out for each other as well so that needs to happen what’s what’s academia

needs to happen what’s what’s academia

needs to happen what’s what’s academia is role in all this certainly to provide

is role in all this certainly to provide

is role in all this certainly to provide an education to train people right

an education to train people right

an education to train people right fluor the art of the possible we should

fluor the art of the possible we should

fluor the art of the possible we should be visionaries we should be thinking

be visionaries we should be thinking

be visionaries we should be thinking out-of-the-box it shouldn’t just be a

out-of-the-box it shouldn’t just be a

out-of-the-box it shouldn’t just be a couple of people’s ideas it should be

couple of people’s ideas it should be

couple of people’s ideas it should be everybody’s ideas your ideas and we need

everybody’s ideas your ideas and we need

everybody’s ideas your ideas and we need to really develop the science and

to really develop the science and

to really develop the science and understanding to make all of those dots

understanding to make all of those dots

understanding to make all of those dots that weren’t black black dots okay we

that weren’t black black dots okay we

that weren’t black black dots okay we want to understand what’s up there how

want to understand what’s up there how

want to understand what’s up there how it’s behaving be able to predict it and

it’s behaving be able to predict it and

it’s behaving be able to predict it and only after monitoring and understanding

only after monitoring and understanding

only after monitoring and understanding all that can we start really

all that can we start really

all that can we start really understanding why are the next steps to

understanding why are the next steps to

understanding why are the next steps to solve that problem so what can you do

solve that problem so what can you do

solve that problem so what can you do well I think a couple things for sure I

well I think a couple things for sure I

well I think a couple things for sure I guess I’d like to challenge you to see

guess I’d like to challenge you to see

guess I’d like to challenge you to see you know when you’re at your next party

you know when you’re at your next party

you know when you’re at your next party or next coffee break obviously not here

or next coffee break obviously not here

or next coffee break obviously not here because you’ve heard this but once you

because you’ve heard this but once you

because you’ve heard this but once you like go someplace else how many people

like go someplace else how many people

like go someplace else how many people actually know about this issue how many

actually know about this issue how many

actually know about this issue how many people know that there’s this problem

people know that there’s this problem

people know that there’s this problem that there are 22,000 things in space

that there are 22,000 things in space

that there are 22,000 things in space the size of a softball and larger and

the size of a softball and larger and

the size of a softball and larger and all these things are criss crossing each

all these things are criss crossing each

all these things are criss crossing each other and there’s these you know

other and there’s these you know

other and there’s these you know abilities for things to collide and

abilities for things to collide and

abilities for things to collide and disrupt a lot of the service and

disrupt a lot of the service and

disrupt a lot of the service and capabilities that you depend on talk to

capabilities that you depend on talk to

capabilities that you depend on talk to your governments you know you folks our

your governments you know you folks our

your governments you know you folks our constituents people need to hear from

constituents people need to hear from

constituents people need to hear from you and your voice and certainly this

you and your voice and certainly this

you and your voice and certainly this idea of just getting educated you know

idea of just getting educated you know

idea of just getting educated you know there’s a lot of information on the web

there’s a lot of information on the web

there’s a lot of information on the web but if you wanted to you know

but if you wanted to you know

but if you wanted to you know participate in this stuff maybe be an

participate in this stuff maybe be an

participate in this stuff maybe be an astronaut a missus I’m not going to give

astronaut a missus I’m not going to give

astronaut a missus I’m not going to give you one of my jackets but I’d certainly

you one of my jackets but I’d certainly

you one of my jackets but I’d certainly welcome you to the club and I’d love for

welcome you to the club and I’d love for

welcome you to the club and I’d love for you to be a part of that so thank you

you to be a part of that so thank you

you to be a part of that so thank you very much

very much

very much [Applause]

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