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he was good in virtually everything he

he was good in virtually everything he took took up and he’s known as a

took took up and he’s known as a

took took up and he’s known as a universal genius of course along with

universal genius of course along with

universal genius of course along with Michelangelo he’s in a stratosphere by

Michelangelo he’s in a stratosphere by

Michelangelo he’s in a stratosphere by himself these are two painters two

himself these are two painters two

himself these are two painters two artists angela was mainly a sculptor but

artists angela was mainly a sculptor but

artists angela was mainly a sculptor but two artists who define art you can argue

two artists who define art you can argue

two artists who define art you can argue about the third greatest artist but not

about the third greatest artist but not

about the third greatest artist but not about the first because they’re tight

about the first because they’re tight

about the first because they’re tight you can take them in either order anyway

you can take them in either order anyway

you can take them in either order anyway as one of the two greatest artists you

as one of the two greatest artists you

as one of the two greatest artists you would think he would be prolific and yet

would think he would be prolific and yet

would think he would be prolific and yet he’s he painted only about a dozen

he’s he painted only about a dozen

he’s he painted only about a dozen paintings among the Dozen are the two

paintings among the Dozen are the two

paintings among the Dozen are the two most famous and paintings in the history

most famous and paintings in the history

most famous and paintings in the history of art no one will argue that the Mona

of art no one will argue that the Mona

of art no one will argue that the Mona Lisa and the Last Supper are these two

Lisa and the Last Supper are these two

Lisa and the Last Supper are these two paintings the most famous you can

paintings the most famous you can

paintings the most famous you can usually explain ordinary genius you can

usually explain ordinary genius you can

usually explain ordinary genius you can say smart parents and smart children

say smart parents and smart children

say smart parents and smart children they can be very supportive parents the

they can be very supportive parents the

they can be very supportive parents the children can be that they’re met has to

children can be that they’re met has to

children can be that they’re met has to be many books in the house that’s key

be many books in the house that’s key

be many books in the house that’s key not just one book the Bible I’ll have

not just one book the Bible I’ll have

not just one book the Bible I’ll have lots of books in the house they don’t

lots of books in the house they don’t

lots of books in the house they don’t have to be all red but they have to be

have to be all red but they have to be

have to be all red but they have to be there the supportive parents can send

there the supportive parents can send

there the supportive parents can send their children to into good educational

their children to into good educational

their children to into good educational institutions they might go to Caltech or

institutions they might go to Caltech or

institutions they might go to Caltech or Princeton and mathematics or physics and

Princeton and mathematics or physics and

Princeton and mathematics or physics and if they’re really lucky they’ll win a

if they’re really lucky they’ll win a

if they’re really lucky they’ll win a Nobel Prize that’s a tangible reward but

Nobel Prize that’s a tangible reward but

Nobel Prize that’s a tangible reward but these you can understand

these you can understand

these you can understand the Beethoven the Leonardo the

the Beethoven the Leonardo the

the Beethoven the Leonardo the Michelangelo is no explanation for them

Michelangelo is no explanation for them

Michelangelo is no explanation for them these are maybe it’s the way their

these are maybe it’s the way their

these are maybe it’s the way their brains are wired maybe there’s a

brains are wired maybe there’s a

brains are wired maybe there’s a physiological anomaly but there’s no

physiological anomaly but there’s no

physiological anomaly but there’s no explanation for these handful of

explanation for these handful of

explanation for these handful of transformative geniuses

when he was doing anatomical studies for

when he was doing anatomical studies for example he said you have to sketch from

example he said you have to sketch from

example he said you have to sketch from eight different directions for example

eight different directions for example

eight different directions for example the same thing to pre describe

the same thing to pre describe

the same thing to pre describe everything so precisely he would apply

everything so precisely he would apply

everything so precisely he would apply the scientific method before the

the scientific method before the

the scientific method before the Scientific Revolution he would observe

Scientific Revolution he would observe

Scientific Revolution he would observe first without any any preconceived ideas

first without any any preconceived ideas

first without any any preconceived ideas when you’re that intelligence it’s

when you’re that intelligence it’s

when you’re that intelligence it’s almost better if you don’t have an

almost better if you don’t have an

almost better if you don’t have an education because you’ll be saddled with

education because you’ll be saddled with

education because you’ll be saddled with the ideas of Aristotle and frankly

the ideas of Aristotle and frankly

the ideas of Aristotle and frankly fairly poor scientists from the ancient

fairly poor scientists from the ancient

fairly poor scientists from the ancient times there were much better scientist

times there were much better scientist

times there were much better scientist than our Stalin ancient times Archimedes

than our Stalin ancient times Archimedes

than our Stalin ancient times Archimedes Eratosthenes our starkest were much

Eratosthenes our starkest were much

Eratosthenes our starkest were much better but the church accepted what

better but the church accepted what

better but the church accepted what Aristotle said and that put science

Aristotle said and that put science

Aristotle said and that put science behind Leonardo is really a bundle of

behind Leonardo is really a bundle of

behind Leonardo is really a bundle of contradictions he was an illegitimate

contradictions he was an illegitimate

contradictions he was an illegitimate child born in 1452 on april of 15th

child born in 1452 on april of 15th

child born in 1452 on april of 15th which is tax day here although we know

which is tax day here although we know

which is tax day here although we know him for being so prolific producing so

him for being so prolific producing so

him for being so prolific producing so much he thought that he produced so

much he thought that he produced so

much he thought that he produced so little that in his deathbed he turned to

little that in his deathbed he turned to

little that in his deathbed he turned to an assistant and he asked did anything

an assistant and he asked did anything

an assistant and he asked did anything get done among the contradictions he was

get done among the contradictions he was

get done among the contradictions he was a pacifist in his life and yet he worked

a pacifist in his life and yet he worked

a pacifist in his life and yet he worked for almost 20 years in Milan for the

for almost 20 years in Milan for the

for almost 20 years in Milan for the Sforza family as a military engineer

Sforza family as a military engineer

Sforza family as a military engineer devising weapons this is very much like

devising weapons this is very much like

devising weapons this is very much like Einstein whose famous letter started the

Einstein whose famous letter started the

Einstein whose famous letter started the manhattan project that started that of

manhattan project that started that of

manhattan project that started that of course led to the atom bomb and yet he

course led to the atom bomb and yet he

course led to the atom bomb and yet he was a pacifist he was left-handed at a

was a pacifist he was left-handed at a

was a pacifist he was left-handed at a time when the word sinister was still

time when the word sinister was still

time when the word sinister was still applied to describe the left-hander

applied to describe the left-hander

applied to describe the left-hander leonardo was a vegetarian he would buy

leonardo was a vegetarian he would buy

leonardo was a vegetarian he would buy birds in the market place just to

birds in the market place just to

birds in the market place just to release them

Leonardo and Michelangelo around 1503

Leonardo and Michelangelo around 1503 1504 were commissioned to do a pair of

1504 were commissioned to do a pair of

1504 were commissioned to do a pair of murals on the same very large wall in

murals on the same very large wall in

murals on the same very large wall in the Palazzo Vecchio in Florence they

the Palazzo Vecchio in Florence they

the Palazzo Vecchio in Florence they both started they both made their

both started they both made their

both started they both made their drawings or cartoons cartoons a

drawings or cartoons cartoons a

drawings or cartoons cartoons a full-sized drawing however the

full-sized drawing however the

full-sized drawing however the Commission felt true Leonardo had

Commission felt true Leonardo had

Commission felt true Leonardo had started a little bit earlier and he

started a little bit earlier and he

started a little bit earlier and he started applying a paint on the work on

started applying a paint on the work on

started applying a paint on the work on the wall but it started running it was

the wall but it started running it was

the wall but it started running it was an experimental technique that he had he

an experimental technique that he had he

an experimental technique that he had he was using and he tried to draw it with

was using and he tried to draw it with

was using and he tried to draw it with heat and it red and it was a disaster

heat and it red and it was a disaster

heat and it red and it was a disaster nonetheless the underdrawing should be

nonetheless the underdrawing should be

nonetheless the underdrawing should be on this wall 50 years later Mazzarri the

on this wall 50 years later Mazzarri the

on this wall 50 years later Mazzarri the great art historian was a commissioned

great art historian was a commissioned

great art historian was a commissioned to build a to cover this up covering up

to build a to cover this up covering up

to build a to cover this up covering up the great beginnings of Leonardo

the great beginnings of Leonardo

the great beginnings of Leonardo Michelangelo art and since bazaari was

Michelangelo art and since bazaari was

Michelangelo art and since bazaari was such a great fan of Leonardo it’s

such a great fan of Leonardo it’s

such a great fan of Leonardo it’s thought that he built a wall in front

thought that he built a wall in front

thought that he built a wall in front and save Leonardo’s on work for future

and save Leonardo’s on work for future

and save Leonardo’s on work for future generation and what sarracenia is doing

generation and what sarracenia is doing

generation and what sarracenia is doing is as wonderful he’s applying high

is as wonderful he’s applying high

is as wonderful he’s applying high technology in a spirit of Leonardo

technology in a spirit of Leonardo

technology in a spirit of Leonardo Leonardo would have liked this he’s

Leonardo would have liked this he’s

Leonardo would have liked this he’s using neutron activation which is a way

using neutron activation which is a way

using neutron activation which is a way of

of

of of essentially imaging through walls and

of essentially imaging through walls and

of essentially imaging through walls and you can find something the size of a pin

you can find something the size of a pin

you can find something the size of a pin in a haystack the size of the pyramids

in a haystack the size of the pyramids

in a haystack the size of the pyramids using neutron activation what you do is

using neutron activation what you do is

using neutron activation what you do is you activate the material with neutrons

you activate the material with neutrons

you activate the material with neutrons then you look at the gamma ray spectrum

then you look at the gamma ray spectrum

then you look at the gamma ray spectrum or their radiation and you see the

or their radiation and you see the

or their radiation and you see the signature of the much of the material

signature of the much of the material

signature of the much of the material and it’s known what paints Leonardo had

and it’s known what paints Leonardo had

and it’s known what paints Leonardo had been using in his time so that we would

been using in his time so that we would

been using in his time so that we would actually be able to see through this

actually be able to see through this

actually be able to see through this wall to know if there is a painting

wall to know if there is a painting

wall to know if there is a painting behind it so sarracenia is to me a very

behind it so sarracenia is to me a very

behind it so sarracenia is to me a very noble scientists

noble scientists

noble scientists and art researcher

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