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on my 20th birthday I stood on the

on my 20th birthday I stood on the corner of an alleyway on the Rue de

corner of an alleyway on the Rue de

corner of an alleyway on the Rue de commerce in Paris my all time favorite

commerce in Paris my all time favorite

commerce in Paris my all time favorite artists sheila hicks had accepted to

artists sheila hicks had accepted to

artists sheila hicks had accepted to meet running formal discussion of her

meet running formal discussion of her

meet running formal discussion of her work unreasonably intimidated nervous

work unreasonably intimidated nervous

work unreasonably intimidated nervous and filled with excitement I was

and filled with excitement I was

and filled with excitement I was speechless at how instead of working me

speechless at how instead of working me

speechless at how instead of working me directly to her studio she was taking me

directly to her studio she was taking me

directly to her studio she was taking me to her local bookstore the bookstore

to her local bookstore the bookstore

to her local bookstore the bookstore owner was keen on the artists work and

owner was keen on the artists work and

owner was keen on the artists work and she had positioned her book right by the

she had positioned her book right by the

she had positioned her book right by the window showcase the artist Sheila she

window showcase the artist Sheila she

window showcase the artist Sheila she was really reluctant to talk about

was really reluctant to talk about

was really reluctant to talk about herself and she insisted that I read

herself and she insisted that I read

herself and she insisted that I read this book if I wanted to know more about

this book if I wanted to know more about

this book if I wanted to know more about herself her life and her journey we sat

herself her life and her journey we sat

herself her life and her journey we sat in a boulangerie and with discussed and

in a boulangerie and with discussed and

in a boulangerie and with discussed and compared the travels she had been to

compared the travels she had been to

compared the travels she had been to cambodian weaving towns and so had I and

cambodian weaving towns and so had I and

cambodian weaving towns and so had I and she felt saddened for the exploitation

she felt saddened for the exploitation

she felt saddened for the exploitation of the textile industry in China so did

of the textile industry in China so did

of the textile industry in China so did I we talked about my upcoming trip to

I we talked about my upcoming trip to

I we talked about my upcoming trip to India and her own personal experience in

India and her own personal experience in

India and her own personal experience in that country and also previously in

that country and also previously in

that country and also previously in Latin America we visited several

Latin America we visited several

Latin America we visited several exhibitions and we slowly made our way

exhibitions and we slowly made our way

exhibitions and we slowly made our way to her studio which was located inside a

to her studio which was located inside a

to her studio which was located inside a mind-blowing alleyway that led to an

mind-blowing alleyway that led to an

mind-blowing alleyway that led to an inner courtyard where I couldn’t hold

inner courtyard where I couldn’t hold

inner courtyard where I couldn’t hold myself from taking this photograph as I

myself from taking this photograph as I

myself from taking this photograph as I realized I was standing right where her

realized I was standing right where her

realized I was standing right where her piece target had been photographed

piece target had been photographed

piece target had been photographed inside her studio Sheila stress the

inside her studio Sheila stress the

inside her studio Sheila stress the importance of sensing the artwork rather

importance of sensing the artwork rather

importance of sensing the artwork rather than questioning in and she set me free

than questioning in and she set me free

than questioning in and she set me free to understand the idea that art was a

to understand the idea that art was a

to understand the idea that art was a unity of sensations come to work while

unity of sensations come to work while

unity of sensations come to work while listening to her speak I began to sense

listening to her speak I began to sense

listening to her speak I began to sense a deeper understanding of not only her

a deeper understanding of not only her

a deeper understanding of not only her practice but of her inspirations and I

practice but of her inspirations and I

practice but of her inspirations and I began to see art as the channel to not

began to see art as the channel to not

began to see art as the channel to not only understand an artist but a person’s

only understand an artist but a person’s

only understand an artist but a person’s whole life journey as I translated this

whole life journey as I translated this

whole life journey as I translated this knowledge my own personal passion for

knowledge my own personal passion for

knowledge my own personal passion for materiality social relations and travel

materiality social relations and travel

materiality social relations and travel became worthy and relevant areas of

became worthy and relevant areas of

became worthy and relevant areas of Investigation her warm heartedness

Investigation her warm heartedness

Investigation her warm heartedness wisdom and her disinterested advice were

wisdom and her disinterested advice were

wisdom and her disinterested advice were the guiding light for me to embark on a

the guiding light for me to embark on a

the guiding light for me to embark on a personal trip understanding the meaning

personal trip understanding the meaning

personal trip understanding the meaning of my practice so before I go any

of my practice so before I go any

of my practice so before I go any further I would like to take a moment to

further I would like to take a moment to

further I would like to take a moment to appreciate the value of this encounter

appreciate the value of this encounter

appreciate the value of this encounter being an artist is something that comes

being an artist is something that comes

being an artist is something that comes deep from my heart but if I’m honest it

deep from my heart but if I’m honest it

deep from my heart but if I’m honest it is just a small part of who I am there

is just a small part of who I am there

is just a small part of who I am there are so many other areas of life that I

are so many other areas of life that I

are so many other areas of life that I enjoy that if I had to separate who I am

enjoy that if I had to separate who I am

enjoy that if I had to separate who I am and my practice my art would definitely

and my practice my art would definitely

and my practice my art would definitely feel empty this has made me feel very

feel empty this has made me feel very

feel empty this has made me feel very insecure at times like what I’m doing is

insecure at times like what I’m doing is

insecure at times like what I’m doing is not really hard or that I can never be

not really hard or that I can never be

not really hard or that I can never be able to focus at one thing at a time but

able to focus at one thing at a time but

able to focus at one thing at a time but what can I do if my ideas only spark at

what can I do if my ideas only spark at

what can I do if my ideas only spark at this personal unexpected and creative

this personal unexpected and creative

this personal unexpected and creative crossroads I don’t want to sound as

crossroads I don’t want to sound as

crossroads I don’t want to sound as someone who’s too in love with the idea

someone who’s too in love with the idea

someone who’s too in love with the idea of what they’re doing right now I am

of what they’re doing right now I am

of what they’re doing right now I am young and I’m aware that my ideas on

young and I’m aware that my ideas on

young and I’m aware that my ideas on life changed radically from year to year

life changed radically from year to year

life changed radically from year to year I thought I would like to talk in a way

I thought I would like to talk in a way

I thought I would like to talk in a way that I will be able to look at my young

that I will be able to look at my young

that I will be able to look at my young self in time and still feel moved like

self in time and still feel moved like

self in time and still feel moved like most of us here today I also feel lost

most of us here today I also feel lost

most of us here today I also feel lost when I visit an exhibition of

when I visit an exhibition of

when I visit an exhibition of contemporary art and even though I

contemporary art and even though I

contemporary art and even though I practice this crap daily it is really

practice this crap daily it is really

practice this crap daily it is really hard for me to understand what’s

hard for me to understand what’s

hard for me to understand what’s happening inside my colleagues minds

happening inside my colleagues minds

happening inside my colleagues minds when i visit shows with family or

when i visit shows with family or

when i visit shows with family or friends it is likely that we exit with a

friends it is likely that we exit with a

friends it is likely that we exit with a look in her face that suggests i had no

look in her face that suggests i had no

look in her face that suggests i had no idea what was going on in there as much

idea what was going on in there as much

idea what was going on in there as much as I try to or as much as I would like

as I try to or as much as I would like

as I try to or as much as I would like to I I cannot understand contemporary

to I I cannot understand contemporary

to I I cannot understand contemporary art it’s weird I cannot relate to it and

art it’s weird I cannot relate to it and

art it’s weird I cannot relate to it and I agree I wish art were more

I agree I wish art were more

I agree I wish art were more approachable less autonomous and they

approachable less autonomous and they

approachable less autonomous and they separate from its surrounding this is

separate from its surrounding this is

separate from its surrounding this is why I like to place so much importance

why I like to place so much importance

why I like to place so much importance in the story behind things in the

in the story behind things in the

in the story behind things in the experience in the people involved in

experience in the people involved in

experience in the people involved in turn

turn

turn of making and in what we actually go

of making and in what we actually go

of making and in what we actually go through as human beings while creating

through as human beings while creating

through as human beings while creating our masterpiece how can we expect

our masterpiece how can we expect

our masterpiece how can we expect someone inside the gallery to fully

someone inside the gallery to fully

someone inside the gallery to fully relate to a work of art when they have

relate to a work of art when they have

relate to a work of art when they have no idea of what was going on in the

no idea of what was going on in the

no idea of what was going on in the artist life and in history running at

artist life and in history running at

artist life and in history running at that time so I guess my question today

that time so I guess my question today

that time so I guess my question today is how can art become a more humane

is how can art become a more humane

is how can art become a more humane experience for people i could start my

experience for people i could start my

experience for people i could start my journey today by talking about spain

journey today by talking about spain

journey today by talking about spain where i come from or talking about the

where i come from or talking about the

where i come from or talking about the UK where i first moved to when i left

UK where i first moved to when i left

UK where i first moved to when i left home but i believe my true artistic self

home but i believe my true artistic self

home but i believe my true artistic self began to expand and develop when i move

began to expand and develop when i move

began to expand and develop when i move to beijing in such a consumer society as

to beijing in such a consumer society as

to beijing in such a consumer society as china buyers are not only interested in

china buyers are not only interested in

china buyers are not only interested in obtaining new products but also in

obtaining new products but also in

obtaining new products but also in discarding the old technological

discarding the old technological

discarding the old technological developments have made quantity and

developments have made quantity and

developments have made quantity and quality become serious problems and it

quality become serious problems and it

quality become serious problems and it is therefore why my practice became an

is therefore why my practice became an

is therefore why my practice became an ongoing performance searching and

ongoing performance searching and

ongoing performance searching and collecting every day discarded materials

collecting every day discarded materials

collecting every day discarded materials I question what was bound to happen when

I question what was bound to happen when

I question what was bound to happen when a foreigner is exposed to an unknown

a foreigner is exposed to an unknown

a foreigner is exposed to an unknown object and how he or she would adopt it

object and how he or she would adopt it

object and how he or she would adopt it in contrast to someone who uses it daily

in contrast to someone who uses it daily

in contrast to someone who uses it daily for example I used to brew my floor

for example I used to brew my floor

for example I used to brew my floor using these brooms made of dried flowers

using these brooms made of dried flowers

using these brooms made of dried flowers and dried corn and to be honest they

and dried corn and to be honest they

and dried corn and to be honest they didn’t really do a very good job so i

didn’t really do a very good job so i

didn’t really do a very good job so i decided to transcend them into art a

decided to transcend them into art a

decided to transcend them into art a similar thing happened with this

similar thing happened with this

similar thing happened with this installation which is made of no more

installation which is made of no more

installation which is made of no more than putting mobs together these mobs

than putting mobs together these mobs

than putting mobs together these mobs are made of beautiful strips of colorful

are made of beautiful strips of colorful

are made of beautiful strips of colorful clothes but again they don’t really

clothes but again they don’t really

clothes but again they don’t really clean people’s floor so i decided to

clean people’s floor so i decided to

clean people’s floor so i decided to transcend them into art again doing this

transcend them into art again doing this

transcend them into art again doing this was allowing me to look through

was allowing me to look through

was allowing me to look through materials as a way to understand my own

materials as a way to understand my own

materials as a way to understand my own personal experience of being in china

personal experience of being in china

personal experience of being in china and while having to look for these

and while having to look for these

and while having to look for these supplies i was having to go to the

supplies i was having to go to the

supplies i was having to go to the city’s most uninviting material

city’s most uninviting material

city’s most uninviting material our kids where I was both breathtaking

our kids where I was both breathtaking

our kids where I was both breathtaking at the variety of stuff but also furious

at the variety of stuff but also furious

at the variety of stuff but also furious at its unwelcoming vendors I had to

at its unwelcoming vendors I had to

at its unwelcoming vendors I had to carry my supplies in the back of a

carry my supplies in the back of a

carry my supplies in the back of a motorcycle that was driving on the

motorcycle that was driving on the

motorcycle that was driving on the opposite direction of traffic and of

opposite direction of traffic and of

opposite direction of traffic and of course on the way home we had to stop to

course on the way home we had to stop to

course on the way home we had to stop to say hi to the drivers cousin who had a

say hi to the drivers cousin who had a

say hi to the drivers cousin who had a shop where I eventually met another guy

shop where I eventually met another guy

shop where I eventually met another guy who’d wanted to take me to the city’s

who’d wanted to take me to the city’s

who’d wanted to take me to the city’s cheapest bamboo store when I was there I

cheapest bamboo store when I was there I

cheapest bamboo store when I was there I met the shopkeeper and his entire family

met the shopkeeper and his entire family

met the shopkeeper and his entire family who happened to live at the back of the

who happened to live at the back of the

who happened to live at the back of the shop we spend the evening drinking tea

shop we spend the evening drinking tea

shop we spend the evening drinking tea and hanging out in their backyard and I

and hanging out in their backyard and I

and hanging out in their backyard and I got convinced to buy some of their

got convinced to buy some of their

got convinced to buy some of their bamboo I was also given some leftover

bamboo I was also given some leftover

bamboo I was also given some leftover Hey and that story translated it to this

Hey and that story translated it to this

Hey and that story translated it to this installation this is what I mean how can

installation this is what I mean how can

installation this is what I mean how can we expect anyone else to know and we

we expect anyone else to know and we

we expect anyone else to know and we forget that these are precisely the

forget that these are precisely the

forget that these are precisely the stories that move people and that really

stories that move people and that really

stories that move people and that really makes art relatable when I came back to

makes art relatable when I came back to

makes art relatable when I came back to the UK I started collaborating with a

the UK I started collaborating with a

the UK I started collaborating with a hairdressing salon a place I totally

hairdressing salon a place I totally

hairdressing salon a place I totally didn’t belong to we collected customer

didn’t belong to we collected customer

didn’t belong to we collected customer hair for over a month and we wrote down

hair for over a month and we wrote down

hair for over a month and we wrote down the customers names and their

the customers names and their

the customers names and their nationality there wasn’t much reasoning

nationality there wasn’t much reasoning

nationality there wasn’t much reasoning for me doing this it was just a new way

for me doing this it was just a new way

for me doing this it was just a new way of feeling inspired by doing things that

of feeling inspired by doing things that

of feeling inspired by doing things that I wouldn’t usually do however doing this

I wouldn’t usually do however doing this

I wouldn’t usually do however doing this made me curious of what would happen if

made me curious of what would happen if

made me curious of what would happen if I start stitching hair onto fabrics

I start stitching hair onto fabrics

I start stitching hair onto fabrics which made me interested in how fabrics

which made me interested in how fabrics

which made me interested in how fabrics actually made which eventually open up

actually made which eventually open up

actually made which eventually open up the doors for me to get funded to travel

the doors for me to get funded to travel

the doors for me to get funded to travel to India I not only wanted to learn

to India I not only wanted to learn

to India I not only wanted to learn about the weaving process itself I

about the weaving process itself I

about the weaving process itself I wanted to learn weaving in terms of the

wanted to learn weaving in terms of the

wanted to learn weaving in terms of the experience of the person who weaves that

experience of the person who weaves that

experience of the person who weaves that fabric so only in a weaving workshop in

fabric so only in a weaving workshop in

fabric so only in a weaving workshop in a materials country of origin would I

a materials country of origin would I

a materials country of origin would I really be able to understand the root of

really be able to understand the root of

really be able to understand the root of textiles

textiles

textiles while being in India I spent almost two

while being in India I spent almost two

while being in India I spent almost two months living with local weavers in the

months living with local weavers in the

months living with local weavers in the jungle and it was once again through

jungle and it was once again through

jungle and it was once again through this deep self in motion that I began to

this deep self in motion that I began to

this deep self in motion that I began to focus on the intensity and on a

focus on the intensity and on a

focus on the intensity and on a transformative effect of the experience

transformative effect of the experience

transformative effect of the experience rather than on the art object itself I

rather than on the art object itself I

rather than on the art object itself I also realized how much possession I

also realized how much possession I

also realized how much possession I claimed over my work and also how hard

claimed over my work and also how hard

claimed over my work and also how hard it was for local people to relate to

it was for local people to relate to

it was for local people to relate to what i was doing these people couldn’t

what i was doing these people couldn’t

what i was doing these people couldn’t care less if their name remained unknown

care less if their name remained unknown

care less if their name remained unknown and i must say that without their help

and i must say that without their help

and i must say that without their help my work would have failed terribly after

my work would have failed terribly after

my work would have failed terribly after weeks of living there I really became

weeks of living there I really became

weeks of living there I really became part of this family and so when I look

part of this family and so when I look

part of this family and so when I look at my work I not only see a well-crafted

at my work I not only see a well-crafted

at my work I not only see a well-crafted and beautiful tapestry I see a

and beautiful tapestry I see a

and beautiful tapestry I see a vulnerable object with human qualities

vulnerable object with human qualities

vulnerable object with human qualities and stories to share it has my

and stories to share it has my

and stories to share it has my accomplishments my struggles and also

accomplishments my struggles and also

accomplishments my struggles and also every moment that I shared with this

every moment that I shared with this

every moment that I shared with this community it’s embedded on it and so it

community it’s embedded on it and so it

community it’s embedded on it and so it marks a key moment in my life and

marks a key moment in my life and

marks a key moment in my life and hopefully also in theirs when I came

hopefully also in theirs when I came

hopefully also in theirs when I came back to London I felt very uninspired by

back to London I felt very uninspired by

back to London I felt very uninspired by the art world I couldn’t deal with the

the art world I couldn’t deal with the

the art world I couldn’t deal with the idea of living in a comfortable city

idea of living in a comfortable city

idea of living in a comfortable city making art in a comfortable studio being

making art in a comfortable studio being

making art in a comfortable studio being surrounded by students who lived

surrounded by students who lived

surrounded by students who lived comfortable lives it felt really

comfortable lives it felt really

comfortable lives it felt really dishonest and also listening to people

dishonest and also listening to people

dishonest and also listening to people speak about my work was deeply painful

speak about my work was deeply painful

speak about my work was deeply painful they thought this tapestry had been made

they thought this tapestry had been made

they thought this tapestry had been made in london in a conventional art studio

in london in a conventional art studio

in london in a conventional art studio by someone who happened to enjoy weaving

by someone who happened to enjoy weaving

by someone who happened to enjoy weaving and fiber art they had no idea of what I

and fiber art they had no idea of what I

and fiber art they had no idea of what I had gone through in order to make this

had gone through in order to make this

had gone through in order to make this and so I started to feel a really big

and so I started to feel a really big

and so I started to feel a really big distance between my art and my life it

distance between my art and my life it

distance between my art and my life it is then when I realized that most of us

is then when I realized that most of us

is then when I realized that most of us today we like to separate who we are on

today we like to separate who we are on

today we like to separate who we are on a personal level

a personal level

a personal level and who we are on our field and I

and who we are on our field and I

and who we are on our field and I realized this really doesn’t work for me

realized this really doesn’t work for me

realized this really doesn’t work for me if I want to be creative I first of all

if I want to be creative I first of all

if I want to be creative I first of all have to be inspired by the way I live

have to be inspired by the way I live

have to be inspired by the way I live and by what kind of impact I want to

and by what kind of impact I want to

and by what kind of impact I want to have on the world I also realized that

have on the world I also realized that

have on the world I also realized that the way I was making was really

the way I was making was really

the way I was making was really incompatible with this obsession of

incompatible with this obsession of

incompatible with this obsession of constant production of objects and so I

constant production of objects and so I

constant production of objects and so I became more interested in the production

became more interested in the production

became more interested in the production of experiences it all started when I

of experiences it all started when I

of experiences it all started when I moved into this house boats with a crazy

moved into this house boats with a crazy

moved into this house boats with a crazy Cuban chef that I had never met before

Cuban chef that I had never met before

Cuban chef that I had never met before from that moment I lost every sense of

from that moment I lost every sense of

from that moment I lost every sense of self we went from him sleeping in the

self we went from him sleeping in the

self we went from him sleeping in the sofa I was sleeping on the bed we were

sofa I was sleeping on the bed we were

sofa I was sleeping on the bed we were sharing a wardrobe we were sharing

sharing a wardrobe we were sharing

sharing a wardrobe we were sharing clothes I could hear him snore every

clothes I could hear him snore every

clothes I could hear him snore every night he could hear my farts if I got it

night he could hear my farts if I got it

night he could hear my farts if I got it and really I started to question where

and really I started to question where

and really I started to question where is home and it became my motto for the

is home and it became my motto for the

is home and it became my motto for the past year and since then I’ve lived in

past year and since then I’ve lived in

past year and since then I’ve lived in over 35 different habitats in april i

over 35 different habitats in april i

over 35 different habitats in april i went to Joshua Tree to live in the

went to Joshua Tree to live in the

went to Joshua Tree to live in the desert in these wagon stations that be

desert in these wagon stations that be

desert in these wagon stations that be artists andreas detail has set up

artists andreas detail has set up

artists andreas detail has set up together with 12 other writers thinkers

together with 12 other writers thinkers

together with 12 other writers thinkers musicians artists we question how

musicians artists we question how

musicians artists we question how everyday actions could be transformed

everyday actions could be transformed

everyday actions could be transformed into art together we explored every

into art together we explored every

into art together we explored every aspect of how we lived from how he slept

aspect of how we lived from how he slept

aspect of how we lived from how he slept how we ate how we socialize with each

how we ate how we socialize with each

how we ate how we socialize with each other and for the first time in my life

other and for the first time in my life

other and for the first time in my life everything was art as you can imagine

everything was art as you can imagine

everything was art as you can imagine this trip really changed me and when I

this trip really changed me and when I

this trip really changed me and when I was so excited than on my return i

was so excited than on my return i

was so excited than on my return i convince my classmate to transform this

convince my classmate to transform this

convince my classmate to transform this ikea bandwidth into our home for the

ikea bandwidth into our home for the

ikea bandwidth into our home for the next two months this was in kingston by

next two months this was in kingston by

next two months this was in kingston by the way we slept there for almost two

the way we slept there for almost two

the way we slept there for almost two months every day we cooked for others

months every day we cooked for others

months every day we cooked for others and we received so many donations so for

and we received so many donations so for

and we received so many donations so for the first time in my life the question

the first time in my life the question

the first time in my life the question of the

of the

of the this was art with a capital A or not

this was art with a capital A or not

this was art with a capital A or not stopped worrying me because during this

stopped worrying me because during this

stopped worrying me because during this time I met more people than in my entire

time I met more people than in my entire

time I met more people than in my entire three years of VA and I witness how

three years of VA and I witness how

three years of VA and I witness how powerful and positive things can be when

powerful and positive things can be when

powerful and positive things can be when we work together as people these

we work together as people these

we work together as people these lifestyles really really changed me and

lifestyles really really changed me and

lifestyles really really changed me and they’ve had a really big impact in my

they’ve had a really big impact in my

they’ve had a really big impact in my life and who I am today and who I want

life and who I am today and who I want

life and who I am today and who I want to be and these are the donations you

to be and these are the donations you

to be and these are the donations you are receiving for the market people in

are receiving for the market people in

are receiving for the market people in Kingston and also all the people that we

Kingston and also all the people that we

Kingston and also all the people that we were meeting during the time and then

were meeting during the time and then

were meeting during the time and then when we were kicked out and we donated

when we were kicked out and we donated

when we were kicked out and we donated the bed to a little boy in Brighton

the bed to a little boy in Brighton

the bed to a little boy in Brighton called George and I took off again this

called George and I took off again this

called George and I took off again this time I went to teach art to tamil

time I went to teach art to tamil

time I went to teach art to tamil refugees in India after we finish the

refugees in India after we finish the

refugees in India after we finish the project I went to live in the world’s

project I went to live in the world’s

project I went to live in the world’s largest experimental city which I

largest experimental city which I

largest experimental city which I recommend everyone to go I wish I had

recommend everyone to go I wish I had

recommend everyone to go I wish I had more time to talk about all of these

more time to talk about all of these

more time to talk about all of these experiences as well but what I’m really

experiences as well but what I’m really

experiences as well but what I’m really trying to get across today is how

trying to get across today is how

trying to get across today is how important it is to fight for an art that

important it is to fight for an art that

important it is to fight for an art that is humane down-to-earth an approachable

is humane down-to-earth an approachable

is humane down-to-earth an approachable our creative drive should be the highest

our creative drive should be the highest

our creative drive should be the highest medium for personal motivation

medium for personal motivation

medium for personal motivation self-discovery and change in the world

self-discovery and change in the world

self-discovery and change in the world it should make us listen clear open our

it should make us listen clear open our

it should make us listen clear open our eyes expand our minds and push our

eyes expand our minds and push our

eyes expand our minds and push our hearts to love in a different way only

hearts to love in a different way only

hearts to love in a different way only then will we be able to sit in a gallery

then will we be able to sit in a gallery

then will we be able to sit in a gallery of Contemporary Art and still feel moved

of Contemporary Art and still feel moved

of Contemporary Art and still feel moved thank you

you

you [Applause]

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