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in a world where it’s seemingly easy to
in a world where it’s seemingly easy to increase prejudice maybe you’ve wondered
increase prejudice maybe you’ve wondered
increase prejudice maybe you’ve wondered is the reverse possible what would it
is the reverse possible what would it
is the reverse possible what would it take to help human beings become less
take to help human beings become less
take to help human beings become less prejudiced I’ve been asking myself that
prejudiced I’ve been asking myself that
prejudiced I’ve been asking myself that question since I was six years old
question since I was six years old
question since I was six years old a little bit because I grew up in the
a little bit because I grew up in the
a little bit because I grew up in the only Jewish family in Chillicothe Ohio
only Jewish family in Chillicothe Ohio
only Jewish family in Chillicothe Ohio but but even more so because when I was
but but even more so because when I was
but but even more so because when I was six I knew I was gay and I knew I had to
six I knew I was gay and I knew I had to
six I knew I was gay and I knew I had to hide I had to hide that part of myself
hide I had to hide that part of myself
hide I had to hide that part of myself from absolutely everybody so today here
from absolutely everybody so today here
from absolutely everybody so today here I am 61 years old having spent a
I am 61 years old having spent a
I am 61 years old having spent a lifetime fighting prejudice is a
lifetime fighting prejudice is a
lifetime fighting prejudice is a community organizer I’m still asking
community organizer I’m still asking
community organizer I’m still asking myself that question and I’m here to
myself that question and I’m here to
myself that question and I’m here to report some progress thanks to our team
report some progress thanks to our team
report some progress thanks to our team at the Los Angeles LGBT Center our
at the Los Angeles LGBT Center our
at the Los Angeles LGBT Center our team’s story began November 2008
team’s story began November 2008
team’s story began November 2008 election day the lesbian gay bisexual
election day the lesbian gay bisexual
election day the lesbian gay bisexual and transgender community expected a
and transgender community expected a
and transgender community expected a huge victory at the ballot box on gay
huge victory at the ballot box on gay
huge victory at the ballot box on gay marriage and then California voters
marriage and then California voters
marriage and then California voters rejected us and the LGBT community was
rejected us and the LGBT community was
rejected us and the LGBT community was shocked and outraged and really didn’t
shocked and outraged and really didn’t
shocked and outraged and really didn’t know what had happened and I had an idea
know what had happened and I had an idea
know what had happened and I had an idea that maybe if we wanted to understand
that maybe if we wanted to understand
that maybe if we wanted to understand what had happened we needed to go out to
what had happened we needed to go out to
what had happened we needed to go out to the neighborhoods where we’ve been
the neighborhoods where we’ve been
the neighborhoods where we’ve been crushed we needed to seek out the voters
crushed we needed to seek out the voters
crushed we needed to seek out the voters who voted against us and ask them why
who voted against us and ask them why
who voted against us and ask them why they did that I didn’t know if those
they did that I didn’t know if those
they did that I didn’t know if those voters would want to talk with us but
voters would want to talk with us but
voters would want to talk with us but they did and 15,000 one-on-one
they did and 15,000 one-on-one
they did and 15,000 one-on-one conversations later first in Los Angeles
conversations later first in Los Angeles
conversations later first in Los Angeles County and then around the country we
County and then around the country we
County and then around the country we started to gain new insight into how to
started to gain new insight into how to
started to gain new insight into how to change hearts and minds
change hearts and minds
change hearts and minds by 2015 we were ready for researchers
by 2015 we were ready for researchers
by 2015 we were ready for researchers from Stanford and the University of
from Stanford and the University of
from Stanford and the University of California at Berkeley to measure us in
California at Berkeley to measure us in
California at Berkeley to measure us in the most rigorous way possible through a
the most rigorous way possible through a
the most rigorous way possible through a randomized control trial they found that
randomized control trial they found that
randomized control trial they found that our ability to reduce prejudice against
our ability to reduce prejudice against
our ability to reduce prejudice against transgender people was remarkable so
transgender people was remarkable so
transgender people was remarkable so remarkable that the well respected
remarkable that the well respected
remarkable that the well respected journals science decided to publish
journals science decided to publish
journals science decided to publish their findings it seems that were the
their findings it seems that were the
their findings it seems that were the first to reduce any form of prejudice in
first to reduce any form of prejudice in
first to reduce any form of prejudice in a measurable way in a long-lasting way
a measurable way in a long-lasting way
a measurable way in a long-lasting way with a relatively simple intervention a
with a relatively simple intervention a
with a relatively simple intervention a 10-minute one-on-one conversation that
10-minute one-on-one conversation that
10-minute one-on-one conversation that we call deep canvassing what do we do
we call deep canvassing what do we do
we call deep canvassing what do we do when we’re deep canvassing that’s so
when we’re deep canvassing that’s so
when we’re deep canvassing that’s so different from any other conversation I
different from any other conversation I
different from any other conversation I can show you here’s Virginia Malaki on
can show you here’s Virginia Malaki on
can show you here’s Virginia Malaki on our team talking with a voter in Miami
our team talking with a voter in Miami
our team talking with a voter in Miami you’re not 100% in favor it sounds like
you’re not 100% in favor it sounds like
you’re not 100% in favor it sounds like you’re kind of moving away from the
you’re kind of moving away from the
you’re kind of moving away from the trend what number feels right for you
trend what number feels right for you
trend what number feels right for you five okay
five okay
five okay and so it so it’s not like that you
and so it so it’s not like that you
and so it so it’s not like that you started you moved to a five because of
started you moved to a five because of
started you moved to a five because of the bathroom situation is one thing that
the bathroom situation is one thing that
the bathroom situation is one thing that disturbed me I don’t know you better
disturbed me I don’t know you better
disturbed me I don’t know you better they say yeah Amanda is using is a man
they say yeah Amanda is using is a man
they say yeah Amanda is using is a man clothing and according to a ladies room
clothing and according to a ladies room
clothing and according to a ladies room well I would look like where does that
well I would look like where does that
well I would look like where does that come from
come from
come from Bailey understanding because I’m from
Bailey understanding because I’m from
Bailey understanding because I’m from South America in South America we don’t
South America in South America we don’t
South America in South America we don’t like bugs oh okay absolutely
like bugs oh okay absolutely
like bugs oh okay absolutely is that what you refer to as like
is that what you refer to as like
is that what you refer to as like transgender or all gay people or before
transgender or all gay people or before
transgender or all gay people or before whatever you are or whatever a man God
whatever you are or whatever a man God
whatever you are or whatever a man God made you a people the bin Laden not try
made you a people the bin Laden not try
made you a people the bin Laden not try to be a what you said without to be
to be a what you said without to be
to be a what you said without to be somewhat something else tough situation
somewhat something else tough situation
somewhat something else tough situation right maybe you’d want to walk away if
right maybe you’d want to walk away if
right maybe you’d want to walk away if you were there but the upside of having
you were there but the upside of having
you were there but the upside of having a voter use a word like is we know
a voter use a word like is we know
a voter use a word like is we know they’re comfortable enough with us to be
they’re comfortable enough with us to be
they’re comfortable enough with us to be honest with us and that kind of rapport
honest with us and that kind of rapport
honest with us and that kind of rapport turns out to be essential if we want to
turns out to be essential if we want to
turns out to be essential if we want to change their mind so Virginia doesn’t
change their mind so Virginia doesn’t
change their mind so Virginia doesn’t walk away but what we’ve learned is this
walk away but what we’ve learned is this
walk away but what we’ve learned is this is a moment where we’ve got to react
is a moment where we’ve got to react
is a moment where we’ve got to react first of all we’ve always got to react
first of all we’ve always got to react
first of all we’ve always got to react otherwise the voter doesn’t know we’re
otherwise the voter doesn’t know we’re
otherwise the voter doesn’t know we’re listening to them and understanding them
listening to them and understanding them
listening to them and understanding them but in this case Virginia particularly
but in this case Virginia particularly
but in this case Virginia particularly needs to react to the ad hominem because
needs to react to the ad hominem because
needs to react to the ad hominem because we can never let anything like that
we can never let anything like that
we can never let anything like that stand but notice the choices Virginia
stand but notice the choices Virginia
stand but notice the choices Virginia makes as they react like for me so so
makes as they react like for me so so
makes as they react like for me so so I’m gay so so you said like like
I’m gay so so you said like like
I’m gay so so you said like like earlier yeah I’m gay yeah I’m gay
earlier yeah I’m gay yeah I’m gay
earlier yeah I’m gay yeah I’m gay [Music]
[Music]
[Music] I’m just a story person enough if you
I’m just a story person enough if you
I’m just a story person enough if you are you aware a pleasure but why is that
are you aware a pleasure but why is that
are you aware a pleasure but why is that the medium
the medium
the medium [Music]
[Music]
[Music] yeah so so for me it wasn’t really a
yeah so so for me it wasn’t really a
yeah so so for me it wasn’t really a decision or like a choice it was like
decision or like a choice it was like
decision or like a choice it was like this is just who I am and so how I feel
this is just who I am and so how I feel
this is just who I am and so how I feel is that I love who I love like for who
is that I love who I love like for who
is that I love who I love like for who that person is and then my like my body
that person is and then my like my body
that person is and then my like my body and like gender right it doesn’t
and like gender right it doesn’t
and like gender right it doesn’t necessarily match the fact that who I
necessarily match the fact that who I
necessarily match the fact that who I feel on the inside like as a woman or I
feel on the inside like as a woman or I
feel on the inside like as a woman or I don’t identify as a woman actually
don’t identify as a woman actually
don’t identify as a woman actually Virginia has just blown his mind with
Virginia has just blown his mind with
Virginia has just blown his mind with two different decisions Virginia has
two different decisions Virginia has
two different decisions Virginia has number one reacted with directness and
number one reacted with directness and
number one reacted with directness and simultaneously number two Virginia has
simultaneously number two Virginia has
simultaneously number two Virginia has been kind that combination of directness
been kind that combination of directness
been kind that combination of directness and kindness that’s that’s how you or I
and kindness that’s that’s how you or I
and kindness that’s that’s how you or I would talk with somebody who we really
would talk with somebody who we really
would talk with somebody who we really care about right that’s being a decent
care about right that’s being a decent
care about right that’s being a decent human being and what we’ve learned and
human being and what we’ve learned and
human being and what we’ve learned and what makes these conversations work is
what makes these conversations work is
what makes these conversations work is when we show up as human that’s when
when we show up as human that’s when
when we show up as human that’s when we’re able to affect the people we’re
we’re able to affect the people we’re
we’re able to affect the people we’re talking with now maybe you’re wondering
talking with now maybe you’re wondering
talking with now maybe you’re wondering who doesn’t know that but the answer
who doesn’t know that but the answer
who doesn’t know that but the answer would be uh most campaigns don’t know
would be uh most campaigns don’t know
would be uh most campaigns don’t know that if you were to volunteer with a
that if you were to volunteer with a
that if you were to volunteer with a conventional campaign canvass to go door
conventional campaign canvass to go door
conventional campaign canvass to go door knocking you’d most likely be given a
knocking you’d most likely be given a
knocking you’d most likely be given a script and asked to recite it verbatim
script and asked to recite it verbatim
script and asked to recite it verbatim to the greatest extent possible at every
to the greatest extent possible at every
to the greatest extent possible at every door political consultants call this
door political consultants call this
door political consultants call this quote unquote delivering a message but
quote unquote delivering a message but
quote unquote delivering a message but from the point of view of the voter who
from the point of view of the voter who
from the point of view of the voter who is the recipient of this experience you
is the recipient of this experience you
is the recipient of this experience you look like a walking talking
look like a walking talking
look like a walking talking robocall and they disengage and tuned
robocall and they disengage and tuned
robocall and they disengage and tuned out as fast as you or I would would hang
out as fast as you or I would would hang
out as fast as you or I would would hang up on a telemarketer
up on a telemarketer
up on a telemarketer by contrast Virginia’s combination of
by contrast Virginia’s combination of
by contrast Virginia’s combination of kindness and directness and listening
kindness and directness and listening
kindness and directness and listening pulls the voter in engages him he wants
pulls the voter in engages him he wants
pulls the voter in engages him he wants to talk more and that’s important
to talk more and that’s important
to talk more and that’s important because right now Virginia does know
because right now Virginia does know
because right now Virginia does know that this voter has an opinion
that this voter has an opinion
that this voter has an opinion but what Virginia does not yet know is
but what Virginia does not yet know is
but what Virginia does not yet know is is that opinion grounded in the voter
is that opinion grounded in the voter
is that opinion grounded in the voter having any real lived experience with
having any real lived experience with
having any real lived experience with LGBT people you never met anybody who’s
LGBT people you never met anybody who’s
LGBT people you never met anybody who’s who’s gay or transgender maybe but never
who’s gay or transgender maybe but never
who’s gay or transgender maybe but never oh so we don’t usually use the word
oh so we don’t usually use the word
oh so we don’t usually use the word so I’m losing my head so just gay or
so I’m losing my head so just gay or
so I’m losing my head so just gay or transgender we’re done Jim yeah well I
transgender we’re done Jim yeah well I
transgender we’re done Jim yeah well I can tell that when you’re saying it
can tell that when you’re saying it
can tell that when you’re saying it you’re not me you don’t say it with like
you’re not me you don’t say it with like
you’re not me you don’t say it with like negative or battle dealing losing my arm
negative or battle dealing losing my arm
negative or battle dealing losing my arm my way of being like you just said it
my way of being like you just said it
my way of being like you just said it yeah do you remember us one of the
yeah do you remember us one of the
yeah do you remember us one of the things to that why I know it’s not
things to that why I know it’s not
things to that why I know it’s not really a choice for me is like right now
really a choice for me is like right now
really a choice for me is like right now I am madly in love with this person
I am madly in love with this person
I am madly in love with this person other name is Lourdes I know this yeah
other name is Lourdes I know this yeah
other name is Lourdes I know this yeah beautiful name and they’re their teacher
beautiful name and they’re their teacher
beautiful name and they’re their teacher and their gorges I’d love to show you a
and their gorges I’d love to show you a
and their gorges I’d love to show you a picture because you showed me one of
picture because you showed me one of
picture because you showed me one of yours there it is that’s my partner I’m
yours there it is that’s my partner I’m
yours there it is that’s my partner I’m head over heels like I can’t even begin
head over heels like I can’t even begin
head over heels like I can’t even begin to tell you that I want to spend the
to tell you that I want to spend the
to tell you that I want to spend the rest of my life with this person
rest of my life with this person
rest of my life with this person Virginia just offered this voter his
Virginia just offered this voter his
Virginia just offered this voter his first real lived experience with an
first real lived experience with an
first real lived experience with an LGBTQ person Virginia offered themself
LGBTQ person Virginia offered themself
LGBTQ person Virginia offered themself Virginia’s preferred pronouns are they
Virginia’s preferred pronouns are they
Virginia’s preferred pronouns are they and them and what we’ve learned is that
and them and what we’ve learned is that
and them and what we’ve learned is that telling our story is absolutely the
telling our story is absolutely the
telling our story is absolutely the number two most effective thing we can
number two most effective thing we can
number two most effective thing we can do when we want to reduce prejudice
do when we want to reduce prejudice
do when we want to reduce prejudice yay for number two but to go deep we’ve
yay for number two but to go deep we’ve
yay for number two but to go deep we’ve learned that we have to go beyond
learned that we have to go beyond
learned that we have to go beyond telling our story because we’ve got to
telling our story because we’ve got to
telling our story because we’ve got to go beyond telling think about the last
go beyond telling think about the last
go beyond telling think about the last time you changed your mind about
time you changed your mind about
time you changed your mind about something really important did it happen
something really important did it happen
something really important did it happen because somebody told you to hurry up
because somebody told you to hurry up
because somebody told you to hurry up and change I doubt it and so now
and change I doubt it and so now
and change I doubt it and so now Virginia is going to do what we’ve
Virginia is going to do what we’ve
Virginia is going to do what we’ve learned is the number one most effective
learned is the number one most effective
learned is the number one most effective thing we can do to reduce somebody’s
thing we can do to reduce somebody’s
thing we can do to reduce somebody’s prejudice and yes it’s even more
prejudice and yes it’s even more
prejudice and yes it’s even more powerful than telling our truth but that
powerful than telling our truth but that
powerful than telling our truth but that sounds like when you talking that
sounds like when you talking that
sounds like when you talking that there’s a lot of love in your tone
there’s a lot of love in your tone
there’s a lot of love in your tone I’m king of all that Novus me as it
I’m king of all that Novus me as it
I’m king of all that Novus me as it doesn’t
doesn’t
doesn’t so Lee yeah 15 years a mile an hour yeah
so Lee yeah 15 years a mile an hour yeah
so Lee yeah 15 years a mile an hour yeah I have to take care of him I really take
I have to take care of him I really take
I have to take care of him I really take care of thank you yeah
care of thank you yeah
care of thank you yeah how does that make you feel I feel like
how does that make you feel I feel like
how does that make you feel I feel like God gave me a still off to love a
God gave me a still off to love a
God gave me a still off to love a disabled person I care about it that
disabled person I care about it that
disabled person I care about it that resonates a lot with me because like I
resonates a lot with me because like I
resonates a lot with me because like I know that I’m going to I’m going to take
know that I’m going to I’m going to take
know that I’m going to I’m going to take care of Lourdes for the rest of my life
care of Lourdes for the rest of my life
care of Lourdes for the rest of my life yeah well maybe she would be cool I know
yeah well maybe she would be cool I know
yeah well maybe she would be cool I know we’ll take care of each other well you
we’ll take care of each other well you
we’ll take care of each other well you just saw the number one most powerful
just saw the number one most powerful
just saw the number one most powerful thing in action
thing in action
thing in action Virginia helped the voter discover and
Virginia helped the voter discover and
Virginia helped the voter discover and reflect on his own real lived experience
reflect on his own real lived experience
reflect on his own real lived experience in this case his love for his wife even
in this case his love for his wife even
in this case his love for his wife even as she is physically declining and and
as she is physically declining and and
as she is physically declining and and as he’s speaking this story aloud I
as he’s speaking this story aloud I
as he’s speaking this story aloud I think what he’s realizing is that what
think what he’s realizing is that what
think what he’s realizing is that what he’s learned from life about how he
he’s learned from life about how he
he’s learned from life about how he wants to treat people is that variance
wants to treat people is that variance
wants to treat people is that variance with the opinion that maybe he offered
with the opinion that maybe he offered
with the opinion that maybe he offered at the beginning and and Virginia is
at the beginning and and Virginia is
at the beginning and and Virginia is going to circle back in a little bit
going to circle back in a little bit
going to circle back in a little bit pretty soon to see if he sees that
pretty soon to see if he sees that
pretty soon to see if he sees that connection
connection
connection but first Virginia’s got to go back to
but first Virginia’s got to go back to
but first Virginia’s got to go back to the beginning of the conversation
the beginning of the conversation
the beginning of the conversation because there’s something still
because there’s something still
because there’s something still undiscussed when the voter articulated
undiscussed when the voter articulated
undiscussed when the voter articulated his prejudice he also articulated a
his prejudice he also articulated a
his prejudice he also articulated a specific concern that included that
specific concern that included that
specific concern that included that prejudice that concern about bathrooms
prejudice that concern about bathrooms
prejudice that concern about bathrooms for me these laws and including
for me these laws and including
for me these laws and including transgender people are are about that
transgender people are are about that
transgender people are are about that they’re about how we treat one another
they’re about how we treat one another
they’re about how we treat one another they may not they may not stop who goes
they may not they may not stop who goes
they may not they may not stop who goes into the bathroom why not know because
into the bathroom why not know because
into the bathroom why not know because what I say is that that
what I say is that that
what I say is that that I’m a man we’ve got to be giving name
I’m a man we’ve got to be giving name
I’m a man we’ve got to be giving name next to me I remember way in terms of
next to me I remember way in terms of
next to me I remember way in terms of like you moving away is that the is that
like you moving away is that the is that
like you moving away is that the is that is there anything else you can picture
is there anything else you can picture
is there anything else you can picture happening like what do you think the
happening like what do you think the
happening like what do you think the worst would happen it is only the feel
worst would happen it is only the feel
worst would happen it is only the feel that the one of us doesn’t belong there
that the one of us doesn’t belong there
that the one of us doesn’t belong there because there you are for you are my I
because there you are for you are my I
because there you are for you are my I am defeated so I’d like to leave it
am defeated so I’d like to leave it
am defeated so I’d like to leave it where like you know daddy where was it
where like you know daddy where was it
where like you know daddy where was it grow up does it scare you yeah you know
grow up does it scare you yeah you know
grow up does it scare you yeah you know the only yeah
the only yeah
the only yeah I think what you’re talking to is more
I think what you’re talking to is more
I think what you’re talking to is more of a comfort level but like it’s not
of a comfort level but like it’s not
of a comfort level but like it’s not scary
scary
scary here you go Comfort Virginia just moved
here you go Comfort Virginia just moved
here you go Comfort Virginia just moved the discussion about bathrooms from the
the discussion about bathrooms from the
the discussion about bathrooms from the hypothetical fear to the practical
hypothetical fear to the practical
hypothetical fear to the practical reality and now the entire conversation
reality and now the entire conversation
reality and now the entire conversation is grounded in reality and this is the
is grounded in reality and this is the
is grounded in reality and this is the moment where the voter gets to put the
moment where the voter gets to put the
moment where the voter gets to put the pieces together and decide for himself
pieces together and decide for himself
pieces together and decide for himself what feels true to him well I think it
what feels true to him well I think it
what feels true to him well I think it to be the first time yeah I thank you
to be the first time yeah I thank you
to be the first time yeah I thank you that I could ask question a reason a be
that I could ask question a reason a be
that I could ask question a reason a be responded with yell against and well
responded with yell against and well
responded with yell against and well yeah that’s why we’re out here so listen
yeah that’s why we’re out here so listen
yeah that’s why we’re out here so listen really
really
really yeah like so the thing about the comfort
yeah like so the thing about the comfort
yeah like so the thing about the comfort is that that’s all it is it’s this big
is that that’s all it is it’s this big
is that that’s all it is it’s this big because since a la people don’t know
because since a la people don’t know
because since a la people don’t know someone who’s transgender there’s a like
someone who’s transgender there’s a like
someone who’s transgender there’s a like and I’m like uh I’m not even sure what
and I’m like uh I’m not even sure what
and I’m like uh I’m not even sure what to call it but you know just a fear of
to call it but you know just a fear of
to call it but you know just a fear of the unknown the knowing that like that’s
the unknown the knowing that like that’s
the unknown the knowing that like that’s what Lourdes faces is why it’s a big
what Lourdes faces is why it’s a big
what Lourdes faces is why it’s a big reason why I’m out here today because
reason why I’m out here today because
reason why I’m out here today because knowing when my partner like you can
knowing when my partner like you can
knowing when my partner like you can make your wife right like when the
make your wife right like when the
make your wife right like when the people we love are dealing with
people we love are dealing with
people we love are dealing with something that impacts them daily you do
something that impacts them daily you do
something that impacts them daily you do yeah
so I’ve shown you just five minutes of
so I’ve shown you just five minutes of this beautiful conversation to give you
this beautiful conversation to give you
this beautiful conversation to give you a glimpse of the magnitude of the change
a glimpse of the magnitude of the change
a glimpse of the magnitude of the change that we’re able to stimulate the
that we’re able to stimulate the
that we’re able to stimulate the researchers found that we’re having a
researchers found that we’re having a
researchers found that we’re having a large impact on 1 in 10 of the voters we
large impact on 1 in 10 of the voters we
large impact on 1 in 10 of the voters we speak with and when they say large what
speak with and when they say large what
speak with and when they say large what they mean is that the decline in
they mean is that the decline in
they mean is that the decline in prejudice against transgender people
prejudice against transgender people
prejudice against transgender people that we’re able to achieve in 10 minutes
that we’re able to achieve in 10 minutes
that we’re able to achieve in 10 minutes is comparable to the decline in
is comparable to the decline in
is comparable to the decline in prejudice against gay men and lesbians
prejudice against gay men and lesbians
prejudice against gay men and lesbians that took more than a decade now we’re
that took more than a decade now we’re
that took more than a decade now we’re still learning and I’d love to be able
still learning and I’d love to be able
still learning and I’d love to be able to do better than 1 in 10 but 1 in 10 is
to do better than 1 in 10 but 1 in 10 is
to do better than 1 in 10 but 1 in 10 is huge
huge
huge in the short run one in ten can be the
in the short run one in ten can be the
in the short run one in ten can be the difference between winning and losing an
difference between winning and losing an
difference between winning and losing an election and in the long run it’s even
election and in the long run it’s even
election and in the long run it’s even more powerful because it turns out that
more powerful because it turns out that
more powerful because it turns out that the impact of deep canvassing
the impact of deep canvassing
the impact of deep canvassing conversations persists far longer than
conversations persists far longer than
conversations persists far longer than any other attempt at persuasion we know
any other attempt at persuasion we know
any other attempt at persuasion we know of for instance TV ads their impact
of for instance TV ads their impact
of for instance TV ads their impact evaporates in 3 to 5 days but the
evaporates in 3 to 5 days but the
evaporates in 3 to 5 days but the researchers found that our deep
researchers found that our deep
researchers found that our deep canvassed conversations have an impact
canvassed conversations have an impact
canvassed conversations have an impact that lasts at least nine months and
that lasts at least nine months and
that lasts at least nine months and maybe longer they’re still measuring so
consider what it would be like if deep
consider what it would be like if deep canvassing became a normal part of
canvassing became a normal part of
canvassing became a normal part of American politics if if more of us and
American politics if if more of us and
American politics if if more of us and if more campaigns more often when
if more campaigns more often when
if more campaigns more often when outside of our bubble that’s the vision
outside of our bubble that’s the vision
outside of our bubble that’s the vision we find compelling at the Los Angeles
we find compelling at the Los Angeles
we find compelling at the Los Angeles LGBT Center because from doing this work
LGBT Center because from doing this work
LGBT Center because from doing this work what we know is people can change we can
what we know is people can change we can
what we know is people can change we can help them change and that means that the
help them change and that means that the
help them change and that means that the total amount of prejudice in American
total amount of prejudice in American
total amount of prejudice in American society is not fixed and not inevitable
society is not fixed and not inevitable
society is not fixed and not inevitable maybe maybe prejudice itself is not
maybe maybe prejudice itself is not
maybe maybe prejudice itself is not inevitable that’s what I think about
inevitable that’s what I think about
inevitable that’s what I think about every night and that’s what I wondered
every night and that’s what I wondered
every night and that’s what I wondered about and wished for as a boy
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