OSHO: I Wonder If This Could Be Love?

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00:00:04OSHO International Foundation presents:

00:00:08Osho: I wonder if this is love?

00:00:11Excerpts from an interview by Mike Wolfe KBND Radio, Bend, Oregon

00:00:36My name is Mike Wolfe;

00:00:37a little background on me:

00:00:39I’m in the broadcasting world,

00:00:42Washington DC, Denver, Colorado –

00:00:45so I’ve traveled a bit,

00:00:47am tired of big cities,

00:00:50and came to central Oregon.

00:00:53What I see is, simply put,

00:00:55you say some things have,

00:00:57which does not accept a lot of people at this time,

00:00:59where you might not care.

00:01:02Why do you not care?

00:01:05Why should I give something there?

00:01:08But why is not anything to give? … and we can

00:01:10thus keep playing endlessly monopoly.

00:01:12No.

00:01:13You say you’re interested in the subject.

00:01:18It is only the individual that is here?

00:01:21No, the individual is everywhere,

00:01:24whether he is here or not,

00:01:27because only the individual exists. Companies are only names,

00:01:32groups are only names.

00:01:35In reality only the individual exists.

00:01:39And I do my best,

00:01:43in my sitting room.

00:01:46Therefore, you see –

00:01:49in all the newspapers, on the radio,

00:01:52on the television —

00:01:56a man who is not from this little valley.

00:02:03And from here I will continue to insist on the globe.

00:02:10What good is it to travel?

00:02:11Well, let me ask you this:

00:02:12You’re not out of this valley, but

00:02:14it is not true that a few weeks ago, three nights in Bend

00:02:19have spent at the River House Motel?

00:02:20No.

00:02:24Then does someone highest

00:02:27compliment, because there is a double of you.

00:02:30Hmm!

00:02:32I wonder if it’s possible

00:02:35that what you say –

00:02:37and some seriously to come back –

00:02:39to project onto those who understand nothing.

00:02:44Firstly, it is not serious part:

00:02:49Try to make a bigger joke than I do.

00:02:51I was not

00:02:54in the hotel, but I can go there.

00:02:58Well, probably you could buy it if they wish.

00:03:00In fact, I …

00:03:02and I have everything any hotel in America than could have.

00:03:10You should see my bathroom again,

00:03:15it is perhaps the finest in the world.

00:03:18Your bathroom?

00:03:19My bathroom.

00:03:23Is that an invitation?

00:03:25Yes.

00:03:26I’ve never been invited to a bathroom.

00:03:31It has me earlier that I belong in the bathroom though,

00:03:33but never invited to.

00:03:37I am a rare and unique person in many ways:

00:03:44I invite you in my bathroom!

00:03:47That is unique.

00:03:49But what happens then?

00:03:52You do not go anywhere.

00:03:55Outfitted with jacuzzi,

00:03:59enjoy it in the shower,

00:04:04enjoy

00:04:07Hot shower,

00:04:09Enjoy the icy shower.

00:04:11And make sure you come out … I understand!

00:04:16I need to know this for my own moral self-confidence:

00:04:20Have you ever previously invited a member of the press in your bathroom?

00:04:23No…

00:04:24Thank you. I think that is important.

00:04:26… because I have a husband never liked

00:04:29as I may.

00:04:47I wonder whether this is love?

00:04:49Is everything alright!

00:04:53In the bathroom are invited ….

00:04:54Well, I’m sure the listeners of this program will think

00:04:56You and I are going to start a nightclub song.

00:05:00What are the possibilities – as you said a moment ago about

00:05:04bringing together Western philosophy, which is somewhat materialistic,

00:05:10and Eastern philosophy, which traditionally is not materialistic

00:05:15but more an inner –

00:05:18how one might say – an inner recognition of themselves?

00:05:22Your now has done a great job in many ways –

00:05:26it is not a natural diamond watch

00:05:29Eastern philosophy –

00:05:31yet the rest of your presentation somewhat oriental.

00:05:35Is it possible to merge the two cultures?

00:05:38I’m doing.

00:05:40And therefore both sides are

00:05:43of culture

00:05:46mad at me.

00:05:49Orientals are angry with me

00:05:52because his thought that I am a materialist.

00:05:56And they are right?

00:05:57No.

00:05:58You are not a materialist?

00:05:59No, not as they see it.

00:06:03And Westerners –

00:06:06especially the materialist, the communist –

00:06:09be mad at me

00:06:12because I bring spirituality.

00:06:19My approach is that it is both.

00:06:28This existence is divided into matter and spirituality.

00:06:35This existence is an organic moiety,

00:06:40just as your soul and your body are an organic unity.

00:06:47Your soul can not exist without the body,

00:06:51and your body can not live without a soul.

00:06:57I am the whole idea of that dichotomy destroying,

00:07:03a separation between matter and spirit,

00:07:08body and soul

00:07:10materialism and spirituality.

00:07:14I call myself Zorba the Buddha.

00:07:19My restaurants, my

00:07:24discos are all said to me: Zorba the Buddha.

00:07:32Now Buddhists are angry.

00:07:36The ambassador in America Sri Lanka wrote me a letter,

00:07:42which he says:

00:07:44“In my country, the people are angry.

00:07:51Please use Buddha’s name with Zorba. “

00:07:57I answered him: “We do not mean your Buddha;

00:08:02Your Buddha’s name was Gautama Siddhartha.

00:08:07Buddha is not just someone’s name,

00:08:11it is a quality. It means: The Enlightened.

00:08:16It can be used for anyone who is enlightened.

00:08:21Makes you are not busy. “

00:08:24It’s my whole effort that Zorba and Buddha to be bridged.

00:08:32Zorba represents the materialistic life

00:08:37with all its wealth –

00:08:39why this diamond watch,

00:08:43hence all my Rolls Royces.

00:08:47I live the most luxurious life lived any man ever,

00:08:52without worry.

00:08:56There are people with a lot more money – I have no penny –

00:09:03but they can not live such a luxurious life as I do,

00:09:08without worry,

00:09:10no bank account, no income tax …

00:09:15and to have everything anyone could have!

00:09:21What is your secret?

00:09:24I really think that you’re in the wrong business.

00:09:29I mean…

00:09:31because what you just spread out on display,

00:09:33you must like it looks, one of the world’s biggest crooks are.

00:09:36Am I!

00:09:39And there is a great need for men to admit that.

00:09:42Certainly!

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