all right good so we are live i am here again with jen this is our fourth
again with jen this is our fourth
again with jen this is our fourth official google plus hangout it’s been a
official google plus hangout it’s been a
official google plus hangout it’s been a little bit since they’re our last one
little bit since they’re our last one
little bit since they’re our last one yeah is it two weeks i think it was
yeah is it two weeks i think it was
yeah is it two weeks i think it was longer now maybe I know it’s been longer
longer now maybe I know it’s been longer
longer now maybe I know it’s been longer I said a few weeks oh you’re weeks okay
I said a few weeks oh you’re weeks okay
I said a few weeks oh you’re weeks okay yeah so what’s going on my I’ve been
yeah so what’s going on my I’ve been
yeah so what’s going on my I’ve been super busy so I um gosh i have refined
super busy so I um gosh i have refined
super busy so I um gosh i have refined my website a little bit I kind of
my website a little bit I kind of
my website a little bit I kind of settled on the much name instead of you
settled on the much name instead of you
settled on the much name instead of you so much much is going to be my official
so much much is going to be my official
so much much is going to be my official business name and my website still you
business name and my website still you
business name and my website still you so much calm but I kind of have made
so much calm but I kind of have made
so much calm but I kind of have made adjustments to kind of simplify it and
adjustments to kind of simplify it and
adjustments to kind of simplify it and use much as the official business name
use much as the official business name
use much as the official business name so my twitter handle has been updated
so my twitter handle has been updated
so my twitter handle has been updated and I set up a YouTube channel and I put
and I set up a YouTube channel and I put
and I set up a YouTube channel and I put that video up fit um I showed last time
that video up fit um I showed last time
that video up fit um I showed last time in our last call yeah that was great
in our last call yeah that was great
in our last call yeah that was great how’s that how’s the reaction to that
how’s that how’s the reaction to that
how’s that how’s the reaction to that it’s been good it’s been good I actually
it’s been good it’s been good I actually
it’s been good it’s been good I actually sent it off to about a week after I um
sent it off to about a week after I um
sent it off to about a week after I um actually a few days after I got it up on
actually a few days after I got it up on
actually a few days after I got it up on the youtube channel i said i found out
the youtube channel i said i found out
the youtube channel i said i found out some contacts at that company and so i
some contacts at that company and so i
some contacts at that company and so i sent it out to them and i haven’t heard
sent it out to them and i haven’t heard
sent it out to them and i haven’t heard back yet though i haven’t heard back but
back yet though i haven’t heard back but
back yet though i haven’t heard back but it’s funny because they had this
it’s funny because they had this
it’s funny because they had this automatic response saying something like
automatic response saying something like
automatic response saying something like will give that to you in two days so i
will give that to you in two days so i
will give that to you in two days so i think it’s a good sign i haven’t heard
think it’s a good sign i haven’t heard
think it’s a good sign i haven’t heard back i think they’re passing it off to
back i think they’re passing it off to
back i think they’re passing it off to other people internally which that’s my
other people internally which that’s my
other people internally which that’s my fantasy I like good yeah what else yeah
fantasy I like good yeah what else yeah
fantasy I like good yeah what else yeah and um and then I’ve worked on a couple
and um and then I’ve worked on a couple
and um and then I’ve worked on a couple other videos I’m not done yet but I have
other videos I’m not done yet but I have
other videos I’m not done yet but I have recorded one and I’ve script to the
recorded one and I’ve script to the
recorded one and I’ve script to the other and I decided to kind of do
other and I decided to kind of do
other and I decided to kind of do different videos one on headlines
different videos one on headlines
different videos one on headlines another one on a website page so kind of
another one on a website page so kind of
another one on a website page so kind of touching on different things you could
touching on different things you could
touching on different things you could do copywriting for okay some more
do copywriting for okay some more
do copywriting for okay some more practical hands-on how can you make that
practical hands-on how can you make that
practical hands-on how can you make that more you like more fantasies if you’re
more you like more fantasies if you’re
more you like more fantasies if you’re talking about headlines well that’s
talking about headlines well that’s
talking about headlines well that’s funny you should ask because it’s in the
funny you should ask because it’s in the
funny you should ask because it’s in the video but um it’s when you are crafted a
video but um it’s when you are crafted a
video but um it’s when you are crafted a headline or sales page or anything you
headline or sales page or anything you
headline or sales page or anything you got to keep in mind what your customers
got to keep in mind what your customers
got to keep in mind what your customers fantasies is right you gotta eat what
fantasies is right you gotta eat what
fantasies is right you gotta eat what their dreams are what their desires are
their dreams are what their desires are
their dreams are what their desires are what they really want
what they really want
what they really want and so um it’s not always going to be as
and so um it’s not always going to be as
and so um it’s not always going to be as fantasy um as obvious as a fantasy as
fantasy um as obvious as a fantasy as
fantasy um as obvious as a fantasy as maybe the product descriptions work for
maybe the product descriptions work for
maybe the product descriptions work for the bras right but it’s still tapping
the bras right but it’s still tapping
the bras right but it’s still tapping into the rooms and desires and making
into the rooms and desires and making
into the rooms and desires and making sure talking to the right person and so
sure talking to the right person and so
sure talking to the right person and so um it’ll be obvious when you see them
um it’ll be obvious when you see them
um it’ll be obvious when you see them that you know you know how I did that so
that you know you know how I did that so
that you know you know how I did that so for example what one of the videos is on
for example what one of the videos is on
for example what one of the videos is on Keanu my client oh so bold and heard the
Keanu my client oh so bold and heard the
Keanu my client oh so bold and heard the the video that I’m doing is about her
the video that I’m doing is about her
the video that I’m doing is about her start here page which can sometimes be
start here page which can sometimes be
start here page which can sometimes be really boring right it’s kind of like go
really boring right it’s kind of like go
really boring right it’s kind of like go visit my website Mina my about page go
visit my website Mina my about page go
visit my website Mina my about page go you know like me on Facebook it kind of
you know like me on Facebook it kind of
you know like me on Facebook it kind of like directions the different places you
like directions the different places you
like directions the different places you know to see if you like her brand and a
know to see if you like her brand and a
know to see if you like her brand and a lot of start here pages are like that
lot of start here pages are like that
lot of start here pages are like that they just kind of direct you to check
they just kind of direct you to check
they just kind of direct you to check them out right and so instead of just
them out right and so instead of just
them out right and so instead of just making it really boring i used a fantasy
making it really boring i used a fantasy
making it really boring i used a fantasy by making it about a shoe shopping
by making it about a shoe shopping
by making it about a shoe shopping experience so it’s kind of a metaphor
experience so it’s kind of a metaphor
experience so it’s kind of a metaphor for shoe shopping so you know first you
for shoe shopping so you know first you
for shoe shopping so you know first you gotta check out the displays then you
gotta check out the displays then you
gotta check out the displays then you gotta try them on and that kind of thing
gotta try them on and that kind of thing
gotta try them on and that kind of thing and so it was a fantasy in that regard
and so it was a fantasy in that regard
and so it was a fantasy in that regard if that makes sense ok and her target
if that makes sense ok and her target
if that makes sense ok and her target customer is someone who really loves to
customer is someone who really loves to
customer is someone who really loves to go shoe shopping so um you know it’s
go shoe shopping so um you know it’s
go shoe shopping so um you know it’s moving again it’s maybe not as obvious
moving again it’s maybe not as obvious
moving again it’s maybe not as obvious as like the the product description is
as like the the product description is
as like the the product description is but it’s still tapping into people’s
but it’s still tapping into people’s
but it’s still tapping into people’s fantasies mm-hmm and had she put it up
fantasies mm-hmm and had she put it up
fantasies mm-hmm and had she put it up yeah it’s up okay so you’re just
yeah it’s up okay so you’re just
yeah it’s up okay so you’re just breaking down we talked about that on
breaking down we talked about that on
breaking down we talked about that on last video right breaking jebet yeah
last video right breaking jebet yeah
last video right breaking jebet yeah breaking down how I how I wrote it
breaking down how I how I wrote it
breaking down how I how I wrote it exactly how i came up with that idea and
exactly how i came up with that idea and
exactly how i came up with that idea and you know how famous he plays into that
you know how famous he plays into that
you know how famous he plays into that yeah I would love to see you kind of tap
yeah I would love to see you kind of tap
yeah I would love to see you kind of tap into just to lead that off to the top
into just to lead that off to the top
into just to lead that off to the top and two did you were to record this
and two did you were to record this
and two did you were to record this video I most of it yeah okay but I’m
video I most of it yeah okay but I’m
video I most of it yeah okay but I’m helping to your suggestions cuz I you
helping to your suggestions cuz I you
helping to your suggestions cuz I you know I can change it I haven’t it’s not
know I can change it I haven’t it’s not
know I can change it I haven’t it’s not edited yet okay yeah what I’d love to
edited yet okay yeah what I’d love to
edited yet okay yeah what I’d love to see is leading off with the pain okay um
see is leading off with the pain okay um
see is leading off with the pain okay um you know here’s this something opinion
you know here’s this something opinion
you know here’s this something opinion everybody can relate to so here’s his
everybody can relate to so here’s his
everybody can relate to so here’s his entrepreneur who has a website she’s a
entrepreneur who has a website she’s a
entrepreneur who has a website she’s a she’s a coach right right exactly yeah
she’s a coach right right exactly yeah
she’s a coach right right exactly yeah but what’s wrong
but what’s wrong
but what’s wrong our website right so she set up this
our website right so she set up this
our website right so she set up this website to get business it’s not giving
website to get business it’s not giving
website to get business it’s not giving any business you look at her page it’s
any business you look at her page it’s
any business you look at her page it’s the same thing everybody else has she
the same thing everybody else has she
the same thing everybody else has she doesn’t have anything exciting
doesn’t have anything exciting
doesn’t have anything exciting meaningful and so you’re here to come
meaningful and so you’re here to come
meaningful and so you’re here to come and help her okay like leading off with
and help her okay like leading off with
and help her okay like leading off with that is easier to relate to then here’s
that is easier to relate to then here’s
that is easier to relate to then here’s why you know this video is about
why you know this video is about
why you know this video is about headlines like who cares about headlines
headlines like who cares about headlines
headlines like who cares about headlines it’s not about headlines right right
it’s not about headlines right right
it’s not about headlines right right that’s that’s that might be the answer
that’s that’s that might be the answer
that’s that’s that might be the answer but you gotta start with the problem
but you gotta start with the problem
but you gotta start with the problem okay um if that doesn’t mess up your
okay um if that doesn’t mess up your
okay um if that doesn’t mess up your video too much no no it doesn’t it
video too much no no it doesn’t it
video too much no no it doesn’t it doesn’t it can rearrange things i like
doesn’t it can rearrange things i like
doesn’t it can rearrange things i like your suggestion actually yeah just like
your suggestion actually yeah just like
your suggestion actually yeah just like honey i just heard her mean maybe well
honey i just heard her mean maybe well
honey i just heard her mean maybe well make me feel her pain make me feel like
make me feel her pain make me feel like
make me feel her pain make me feel like I am what’s her name again keanu Jana so
I am what’s her name again keanu Jana so
I am what’s her name again keanu Jana so I’m keanu like oh man I’m Keanu I’m
I’m keanu like oh man I’m Keanu I’m
I’m keanu like oh man I’m Keanu I’m going to do that same thing my website
going to do that same thing my website
going to do that same thing my website sucks I don’t know what’s wrong with it
sucks I don’t know what’s wrong with it
sucks I don’t know what’s wrong with it I don’t know why people are in contact
I don’t know why people are in contact
I don’t know why people are in contact people are visiting my site and nobody
people are visiting my site and nobody
people are visiting my site and nobody contacts me what’s happening right like
contacts me what’s happening right like
contacts me what’s happening right like that right let’s does your copy sucks
that right let’s does your copy sucks
that right let’s does your copy sucks right because there’s nothing unique
right because there’s nothing unique
right because there’s nothing unique about you so if you make me feel that
about you so if you make me feel that
about you so if you make me feel that pain then I’m going to be more
pain then I’m going to be more
pain then I’m going to be more interested in not only listen to the
interested in not only listen to the
interested in not only listen to the video but I’m more engaged and I’m gonna
video but I’m more engaged and I’m gonna
video but I’m more engaged and I’m gonna be more likely to follow up and want to
be more likely to follow up and want to
be more likely to follow up and want to contact you as my fancy copyright right
contact you as my fancy copyright right
contact you as my fancy copyright right okay that makes sense cool I’m excited
okay that makes sense cool I’m excited
okay that makes sense cool I’m excited to see that wait I think you were
to see that wait I think you were
to see that wait I think you were supposed to have this done though by the
supposed to have this done though by the
supposed to have this done though by the time we had this call Jack I was I was
time we had this call Jack I was I was
time we had this call Jack I was I was it was not an injured I was I was gonna
it was not an injured I was I was gonna
it was not an injured I was I was gonna have it done but I I just don’t I i
have it done but I I just don’t I i
have it done but I I just don’t I i actually have most of it died i just
actually have most of it died i just
actually have most of it died i just didn’t have anything done in time so my
didn’t have anything done in time so my
didn’t have anything done in time so my 12 year old editor just didn’t have the
12 year old editor just didn’t have the
12 year old editor just didn’t have the time in her busy schedule oh just do it
time in her busy schedule oh just do it
time in her busy schedule oh just do it for 88 report of the work come on I know
for 88 report of the work come on I know
for 88 report of the work come on I know I know I labor here totally aren’t you
I know I labor here totally aren’t you
I know I labor here totally aren’t you she did a great job though you guys that
she did a great job though you guys that
she did a great job though you guys that was an amazing first video yeah thank
was an amazing first video yeah thank
was an amazing first video yeah thank you she did do my job I I definitely
you she did do my job I I definitely
you she did do my job I I definitely could have done without her actually
could have done without her actually
could have done without her actually it’s funny because when i did that first
it’s funny because when i did that first
it’s funny because when i did that first video I kind of did it all like i
video I kind of did it all like i
video I kind of did it all like i videotape myself and then had her at
videotape myself and then had her at
videotape myself and then had her at and put in like the screenshots and all
and put in like the screenshots and all
and put in like the screenshots and all that and um and I kind of did it all in
that and um and I kind of did it all in
that and um and I kind of did it all in one take for me like I practice what I
one take for me like I practice what I
one take for me like I practice what I could just do the whole like five minute
could just do the whole like five minute
could just do the whole like five minute talk and one take but then when she put
talk and one take but then when she put
talk and one take but then when she put in the different screenshots I she had
in the different screenshots I she had
in the different screenshots I she had to redo my voiceover so it’s kind of
to redo my voiceover so it’s kind of
to redo my voiceover so it’s kind of flights because this time I was like
flights because this time I was like
flights because this time I was like okay whew I don’t have to have a whole
okay whew I don’t have to have a whole
okay whew I don’t have to have a whole thing you know like you know error-free
thing you know like you know error-free
thing you know like you know error-free for you know five to ten minutes however
for you know five to ten minutes however
for you know five to ten minutes however long videos so it’s kind of nice because
long videos so it’s kind of nice because
long videos so it’s kind of nice because now I i can come up relax a little bit
now I i can come up relax a little bit
now I i can come up relax a little bit of any about and what’s the next one um
of any about and what’s the next one um
of any about and what’s the next one um and so i’m going to do another one so
and so i’m going to do another one so
and so i’m going to do another one so hers is about a start here page and then
hers is about a start here page and then
hers is about a start here page and then the other one i was going to do is that
the other one i was going to do is that
the other one i was going to do is that um was i was actually gonna take one of
um was i was actually gonna take one of
um was i was actually gonna take one of your pages off your route whoo good all
your pages off your route whoo good all
your pages off your route whoo good all right I know right I thought it might
right I know right I thought it might
right I know right I thought it might give you a little bored he let you see
give you a little bored he let you see
give you a little bored he let you see it first to make sure you’re cool with
it first to make sure you’re cool with
it first to make sure you’re cool with it I’m cool i’ll do whatever I’m cool
it I’m cool i’ll do whatever I’m cool
it I’m cool i’ll do whatever I’m cool with it I’m gonna make a little yeah so
with it I’m gonna make a little yeah so
with it I’m gonna make a little yeah so I’m going to take your passion Zuko page
I’m going to take your passion Zuko page
I’m going to take your passion Zuko page and also talked a little about headlines
and also talked a little about headlines
and also talked a little about headlines with that one okay so is there another
with that one okay so is there another
with that one okay so is there another topic you can kind of quick besides
topic you can kind of quick besides
topic you can kind of quick besides headlines um yeah yeah I could I could
headlines um yeah yeah I could I could
headlines um yeah yeah I could I could talk to just in general about sales
talk to just in general about sales
talk to just in general about sales pages um you know about and also bullet
pages um you know about and also bullet
pages um you know about and also bullet points because um you know that’s a
points because um you know that’s a
points because um you know that’s a great opportunity to use them bullet
great opportunity to use them bullet
great opportunity to use them bullet points and there’s no bullet points on
points and there’s no bullet points on
points and there’s no bullet points on that page there’s a few things about
that page there’s a few things about
that page there’s a few things about that page I’ve actually done most a copy
that page I’ve actually done most a copy
that page I’ve actually done most a copy already a sound on the video okay do you
already a sound on the video okay do you
already a sound on the video okay do you have do you have a process do you have
have do you have a process do you have
have do you have a process do you have like a ten steps according to jen of
like a ten steps according to jen of
like a ten steps according to jen of perfect copywriting yeah yeah i do go
perfect copywriting yeah yeah i do go
perfect copywriting yeah yeah i do go through a process we talking about this
through a process we talking about this
through a process we talking about this right i mean you kind of mentioned a
right i mean you kind of mentioned a
right i mean you kind of mentioned a process a little bit in that in that
process a little bit in that in that
process a little bit in that in that first video yeah I did so I mean my main
first video yeah I did so I mean my main
first video yeah I did so I mean my main process I mean that one was I kind of
process I mean that one was I kind of
process I mean that one was I kind of simple oversimplified it a little bit
simple oversimplified it a little bit
simple oversimplified it a little bit yeah so that the video wasn’t too long
yeah so that the video wasn’t too long
yeah so that the video wasn’t too long last time right you know in in the in
last time right you know in in the in
last time right you know in in the in the one that I did for keyonna I talked
the one that I did for keyonna I talked
the one that I did for keyonna I talked a little bit my process of like knowing
a little bit my process of like knowing
a little bit my process of like knowing who your target customer is you know
who your target customer is you know
who your target customer is you know figuring out their fantasies are what
figuring out their fantasies are what
figuring out their fantasies are what they really want their real you know
they really want their real you know
they really want their real you know what the real desire is here and then
what the real desire is here and then
what the real desire is here and then also how they want to feel and then
also how they want to feel and then
also how they want to feel and then using all those when you’re crafting the
using all those when you’re crafting the
using all those when you’re crafting the copy so that’s coming that’s kind of the
copy so that’s coming that’s kind of the
copy so that’s coming that’s kind of the main process I go through for you know
main process I go through for you know
main process I go through for you know oh my oh my copy so if it kind of covers
oh my oh my copy so if it kind of covers
oh my oh my copy so if it kind of covers it okay I’m thinking
it okay I’m thinking
it okay I’m thinking if we drill down a little deeper on some
if we drill down a little deeper on some
if we drill down a little deeper on some of those so the things that you
of those so the things that you
of those so the things that you mentioned was you need to have a good
mentioned was you need to have a good
mentioned was you need to have a good headline to have bullet points so that
headline to have bullet points so that
headline to have bullet points so that talks like readability and ease of flow
talks like readability and ease of flow
talks like readability and ease of flow of reading through the copy uh there’s
of reading through the copy uh there’s
of reading through the copy uh there’s probably a whole bunch of those that you
probably a whole bunch of those that you
probably a whole bunch of those that you just do naturally yeah you’re right that
just do naturally yeah you’re right that
just do naturally yeah you’re right that you don’t uh you may not even written it
you don’t uh you may not even written it
you don’t uh you may not even written it down and say here’s what I do okay what
down and say here’s what I do okay what
down and say here’s what I do okay what educating people through that process so
educating people through that process so
educating people through that process so it’s not like if you can distill it down
it’s not like if you can distill it down
it’s not like if you can distill it down points right and then each video could
points right and then each video could
points right and then each video could cover a different points if you’re
cover a different points if you’re
cover a different points if you’re talking about so you have your headline
talking about so you have your headline
talking about so you have your headline videos coming out that’s great so she
videos coming out that’s great so she
videos coming out that’s great so she has her headline video maybe mine is
has her headline video maybe mine is
has her headline video maybe mine is about uh flow okay right hey well Evans
about uh flow okay right hey well Evans
about uh flow okay right hey well Evans page sucks because there’s no bullet
page sucks because there’s no bullet
page sucks because there’s no bullet points and there’s no pictures and it’s
points and there’s no pictures and it’s
points and there’s no pictures and it’s one big Chuck attacks or whatever it is
one big Chuck attacks or whatever it is
one big Chuck attacks or whatever it is right and so if you had like these this
right and so if you had like these this
right and so if you had like these this list of whatever it is ten things seven
list of whatever it is ten things seven
list of whatever it is ten things seven things one things that kind of you look
things one things that kind of you look
things one things that kind of you look for you helped create with your copy
for you helped create with your copy
for you helped create with your copy then that can help guide people through
then that can help guide people through
then that can help guide people through a series of your of how you think but it
a series of your of how you think but it
a series of your of how you think but it also gives you lots of different types
also gives you lots of different types
also gives you lots of different types of videos to make when you’re breaking
of videos to make when you’re breaking
of videos to make when you’re breaking down papi yeah I see what you’re saying
down papi yeah I see what you’re saying
down papi yeah I see what you’re saying it’s not like okay here’s another
it’s not like okay here’s another
it’s not like okay here’s another headline video and here’s another
headline video and here’s another
headline video and here’s another headline video here’s another headline
headline video here’s another headline
headline video here’s another headline Vidya right like we covered headline
Vidya right like we covered headline
Vidya right like we covered headline let’s move on to other gang come back
let’s move on to other gang come back
let’s move on to other gang come back with maybe in a couple months sure well
with maybe in a couple months sure well
with maybe in a couple months sure well I like it because I instead I was kind
I like it because I instead I was kind
I like it because I instead I was kind of going through my own process of you
of going through my own process of you
of going through my own process of you know almost like the foundation like
know almost like the foundation like
know almost like the foundation like where I start from I wasn’t even
where I start from I wasn’t even
where I start from I wasn’t even thinking about like a process you know
thinking about like a process you know
thinking about like a process you know process of the of the page itself which
process of the of the page itself which
process of the of the page itself which you’re right that it’s kind of natural
you’re right that it’s kind of natural
you’re right that it’s kind of natural for me but it might not be natural for
for me but it might not be natural for
for me but it might not be natural for someone else well I got no expertise
someone else well I got no expertise
someone else well I got no expertise that you have internalized right most
that you have internalized right most
that you have internalized right most people will have no idea about yeah
people will have no idea about yeah
people will have no idea about yeah right and again our goal here is to
right and again our goal here is to
right and again our goal here is to educate mm-hmm you have the thought
educate mm-hmm you have the thought
educate mm-hmm you have the thought leaders for the people who can’t afford
leaders for the people who can’t afford
leaders for the people who can’t afford your services will still have something
your services will still have something
your services will still have something that can help them right can afford know
that can help them right can afford know
that can help them right can afford know at the time say well generally as she’s
at the time say well generally as she’s
at the time say well generally as she’s doing a hire her
doing a hire her
doing a hire her right so explaining your process and
right so explaining your process and
right so explaining your process and easy to digest okay words makes it makes
easy to digest okay words makes it makes
easy to digest okay words makes it makes it easier to that Jack’s right you want
it easier to that Jack’s right you want
it easier to that Jack’s right you want it to be easy to do business with you
it to be easy to do business with you
it to be easy to do business with you yeah absolutely okay I love it so almost
yeah absolutely okay I love it so almost
yeah absolutely okay I love it so almost like the mechanics of the actual page
like the mechanics of the actual page
like the mechanics of the actual page itself yeah you can think about like
itself yeah you can think about like
itself yeah you can think about like maybe go to the like a page that just
maybe go to the like a page that just
maybe go to the like a page that just totally sucks and it’s not even just the
totally sucks and it’s not even just the
totally sucks and it’s not even just the copy because it’s not fantasy but
copy because it’s not fantasy but
copy because it’s not fantasy but everything is off like one big ugly
everything is off like one big ugly
everything is off like one big ugly chunk of text and whatever it is yeah
chunk of text and whatever it is yeah
chunk of text and whatever it is yeah and sometimes by finding all of the bad
and sometimes by finding all of the bad
and sometimes by finding all of the bad things on a page that helps you define
things on a page that helps you define
things on a page that helps you define you know what you’d like that’s good
you know what you’d like that’s good
you know what you’d like that’s good right yeah yeah well there are certain
right yeah yeah well there are certain
right yeah yeah well there are certain things about certain pages like for
things about certain pages like for
things about certain pages like for example about pages a lot of people
example about pages a lot of people
example about pages a lot of people write about pages that are all about
write about pages that are all about
write about pages that are all about them like all like it just says how
them like all like it just says how
them like all like it just says how great they are oh this is all about me
great they are oh this is all about me
great they are oh this is all about me and they think that people like that
and they think that people like that
and they think that people like that when well some goes their website that
when well some goes their website that
when well some goes their website that they want to know all about that person
they want to know all about that person
they want to know all about that person which they often do but they also want
which they often do but they also want
which they often do but they also want to feel like they’re taught you know
to feel like they’re taught you know
to feel like they’re taught you know talking to that like so if you just
talking to that like so if you just
talking to that like so if you just rephrase how you put something on in the
rephrase how you put something on in the
rephrase how you put something on in the valve page you know I wonder if it makes
valve page you know I wonder if it makes
valve page you know I wonder if it makes sense to show like good website examples
sense to show like good website examples
sense to show like good website examples and bad ones too like as I’m talking
and bad ones too like as I’m talking
and bad ones too like as I’m talking about a specific kind of page yeah you
about a specific kind of page yeah you
about a specific kind of page yeah you can I like exposing you as the expert
can I like exposing you as the expert
can I like exposing you as the expert and showing off like it’s a good
and showing off like it’s a good
and showing off like it’s a good opportunity to show off what you can do
opportunity to show off what you can do
opportunity to show off what you can do if you take a bad one you can show up
if you take a bad one you can show up
if you take a bad one you can show up how you would make it better okay one
how you would make it better okay one
how you would make it better okay one you can see why it’s good but it doesn’t
you can see why it’s good but it doesn’t
you can see why it’s good but it doesn’t feel like it’s because it shows off me
feel like it’s because it shows off me
feel like it’s because it shows off me right listen for you um even as you’re
right listen for you um even as you’re
right listen for you um even as you’re talking here you’re already going
talking here you’re already going
talking here you’re already going through different categories of how to
through different categories of how to
through different categories of how to make a good sales letter as an example
make a good sales letter as an example
make a good sales letter as an example so this can be confusing because you’re
so this can be confusing because you’re
so this can be confusing because you’re jumping buckets yes I mean you make
jumping buckets yes I mean you make
jumping buckets yes I mean you make those steps easily because you’re the
those steps easily because you’re the
those steps easily because you’re the expert but for somebody watching it
expert but for somebody watching it
expert but for somebody watching it doesn’t it’s not as it’s not as linear
doesn’t it’s not as it’s not as linear
doesn’t it’s not as it’s not as linear so right for example you’re talking
so right for example you’re talking
so right for example you’re talking about on an about page people talk to us
about on an about page people talk to us
about on an about page people talk to us about them and they’re still
about them and they’re still
about them and they’re still right but that’s a different set of
right but that’s a different set of
right but that’s a different set of points then you have to make it readable
points then you have to make it readable
points then you have to make it readable and you need to have good headlines and
and you need to have good headlines and
and you need to have good headlines and you need to have bullet points right cuz
you need to have bullet points right cuz
you need to have bullet points right cuz I can make my about page with a great
I can make my about page with a great
I can make my about page with a great headline and greet bullet points and
headline and greet bullet points and
headline and greet bullet points and pictures and slow but it’s still the
pictures and slow but it’s still the
pictures and slow but it’s still the wrong content right right so there are
wrong content right right so there are
wrong content right right so there are two different points like those points
two different points like those points
two different points like those points don’t belong in the same video right
don’t belong in the same video right
don’t belong in the same video right okay you got a dumb it down and make it
okay you got a dumb it down and make it
okay you got a dumb it down and make it simple for somebody who doesn’t
simple for somebody who doesn’t
simple for somebody who doesn’t understand your business to digest it
understand your business to digest it
understand your business to digest it because they’re already feeling
because they’re already feeling
because they’re already feeling overwhelmed by their copy okay where for
overwhelmed by their copy okay where for
overwhelmed by their copy okay where for you those love those mental leaps are
you those love those mental leaps are
you those love those mental leaps are nothing you’d like you’re just he’s
nothing you’d like you’re just he’s
nothing you’d like you’re just he’s right hi put it out right right in five
right hi put it out right right in five
right hi put it out right right in five seconds and people watching it like
seconds and people watching it like
seconds and people watching it like their their heads gonna blow up sure
their their heads gonna blow up sure
their their heads gonna blow up sure okay so it maybe you just getting that
okay so it maybe you just getting that
okay so it maybe you just getting that down on paper the types of things that
down on paper the types of things that
down on paper the types of things that are wrong or maybe just make a list of
are wrong or maybe just make a list of
are wrong or maybe just make a list of everything that is wrong with a bad page
everything that is wrong with a bad page
everything that is wrong with a bad page and then categorize those right just
and then categorize those right just
and then categorize those right just like in our Zukas we have the survival
like in our Zukas we have the survival
like in our Zukas we have the survival marketing raising capital and time those
marketing raising capital and time those
marketing raising capital and time those are distinct chunks right what if I
are distinct chunks right what if I
are distinct chunks right what if I talked about time management and
talked about time management and
talked about time management and marketing at the same time I’m spending
marketing at the same time I’m spending
marketing at the same time I’m spending too much information people will start
too much information people will start
too much information people will start to get lost not yet okay so you can
to get lost not yet okay so you can
to get lost not yet okay so you can write down like your list of 30 things
write down like your list of 30 things
write down like your list of 30 things or whatever it is and then group them
or whatever it is and then group them
or whatever it is and then group them into maybe three buckets that makes the
into maybe three buckets that makes the
into maybe three buckets that makes the most sense yeah and then each one of
most sense yeah and then each one of
most sense yeah and then each one of those can become its own video and so
those can become its own video and so
those can become its own video and so that you’re not repeating yourself for
that you’re not repeating yourself for
that you’re not repeating yourself for you know ten weeks or 12 weeks or
you know ten weeks or 12 weeks or
you know ten weeks or 12 weeks or whatever it is right are used to do this
whatever it is right are used to do this
whatever it is right are used to do this every two weeks right that was the goal
every two weeks right that was the goal
every two weeks right that was the goal oh yeah that’s the goal yep really cool
oh yeah that’s the goal yep really cool
oh yeah that’s the goal yep really cool man come on let’s go okay okay your
man come on let’s go okay okay your
man come on let’s go okay okay your daughter to work I know exactly gotta
daughter to work I know exactly gotta
daughter to work I know exactly gotta get her on a schedule too gotta go you
get her on a schedule too gotta go you
get her on a schedule too gotta go you know that’s all organized but no I agree
know that’s all organized but no I agree
know that’s all organized but no I agree and Ashley if I love this idea because I
and Ashley if I love this idea because I
and Ashley if I love this idea because I think the other thing is is as I’m
think the other thing is is as I’m
think the other thing is is as I’m approaching other businesses i can send
approaching other businesses i can send
approaching other businesses i can send them examples with these videos like
them examples with these videos like
them examples with these videos like okay I noticed on your page your
okay I noticed on your page your
okay I noticed on your page your headline sucks whatever check out this
headline sucks whatever check out this
headline sucks whatever check out this video and then they can get a good
video and then they can get a good
video and then they can get a good feeling for what I’m talking about yeah
feeling for what I’m talking about yeah
feeling for what I’m talking about yeah more specifically
more specifically
more specifically they also get a feeling my personality
they also get a feeling my personality
they also get a feeling my personality cuz i’m on the video so I I just love
cuz i’m on the video so I I just love
cuz i’m on the video so I I just love this idea yeah yeah and when you go and
this idea yeah yeah and when you go and
this idea yeah yeah and when you go and you talk to a local business they will
you talk to a local business they will
you talk to a local business they will you know if you have 30 things that you
you know if you have 30 things that you
you know if you have 30 things that you have to do right they may only have like
have to do right they may only have like
have to do right they may only have like one or two that they have going right
one or two that they have going right
one or two that they have going right for them but you can pick the one most
for them but you can pick the one most
for them but you can pick the one most offensive thing that they’re doing wrong
offensive thing that they’re doing wrong
offensive thing that they’re doing wrong you know that like gets your blood
you know that like gets your blood
you know that like gets your blood boiling because it’s just so wrong the
boiling because it’s just so wrong the
boiling because it’s just so wrong the worst thing they’re doing right the
worst thing they’re doing right the
worst thing they’re doing right the video just on that right I’m not
video just on that right I’m not
video just on that right I’m not overwhelm them with here’s all the
overwhelm them with here’s all the
overwhelm them with here’s all the things that are happening on your site
things that are happening on your site
things that are happening on your site okay yeah yeah no I love it yeah okay so
okay yeah yeah no I love it yeah okay so
okay yeah yeah no I love it yeah okay so when does this video coming up again and
when does this video coming up again and
when does this video coming up again and we’re pushing your daughter for like
we’re pushing your daughter for like
we’re pushing your daughter for like next week yeah I’m gonna have well I
next week yeah I’m gonna have well I
next week yeah I’m gonna have well I mean I’m my goals to have them both done
mean I’m my goals to have them both done
mean I’m my goals to have them both done by next week yeah okay they’re gone yeah
by next week yeah okay they’re gone yeah
by next week yeah okay they’re gone yeah yeah okay but now you have to change the
yeah okay but now you have to change the
yeah okay but now you have to change the topic on Mars it’s not headlines yeah
topic on Mars it’s not headlines yeah
topic on Mars it’s not headlines yeah it’s okay that’s okay I’ll just change a
it’s okay that’s okay I’ll just change a
it’s okay that’s okay I’ll just change a little bit yeah they’ll be easy yeah it
little bit yeah they’ll be easy yeah it
little bit yeah they’ll be easy yeah it may even be something that as you get it
may even be something that as you get it
may even be something that as you get it refined you could show um like a picture
refined you could show um like a picture
refined you could show um like a picture at the start to say okay we’re talking
at the start to say okay we’re talking
at the start to say okay we’re talking like you to you have your free buckets
like you to you have your free buckets
like you to you have your free buckets right we’re talking about this bucket
right we’re talking about this bucket
right we’re talking about this bucket just structure we’re talking about
just structure we’re talking about
just structure we’re talking about structure today and here are like here’s
structure today and here are like here’s
structure today and here are like here’s jen’s I put in the gin you’re the
jen’s I put in the gin you’re the
jen’s I put in the gin you’re the tenting no today we’re talking about
tenting no today we’re talking about
tenting no today we’re talking about number three which is oh here’s a crappy
number three which is oh here’s a crappy
number three which is oh here’s a crappy website on flow and then you just so
website on flow and then you just so
website on flow and then you just so that people know there’s a lot more and
that people know there’s a lot more and
that people know there’s a lot more and it gives them you know excitement to
it gives them you know excitement to
it gives them you know excitement to wait for your next video talk what
wait for your next video talk what
wait for your next video talk what number four okay you don’t like don’t
number four okay you don’t like don’t
number four okay you don’t like don’t let that hold you back from just doing
let that hold you back from just doing
let that hold you back from just doing your videos mm-hmm because you can get
your videos mm-hmm because you can get
your videos mm-hmm because you can get still stuck in your head figuring that
still stuck in your head figuring that
still stuck in your head figuring that out that you don’t end up doing anything
out that you don’t end up doing anything
out that you don’t end up doing anything mm-hmm but as you define your
mm-hmm but as you define your
mm-hmm but as you define your methodology better that can help give
methodology better that can help give
methodology better that can help give clarity for you on the types of videos
clarity for you on the types of videos
clarity for you on the types of videos to make but also clarity for your
to make but also clarity for your
to make but also clarity for your audience and something to look forward
audience and something to look forward
audience and something to look forward to every week for every two weeks right
to every week for every two weeks right
to every week for every two weeks right that’s a good suggestion yeah and it
that’s a good suggestion yeah and it
that’s a good suggestion yeah and it shows that there’s a lot more to you
shows that there’s a lot more to you
shows that there’s a lot more to you ain’t when I’m talking my headlines
ain’t when I’m talking my headlines
ain’t when I’m talking my headlines today but hey I got you part of a
today but hey I got you part of a
today but hey I got you part of a 10-step process that i go through but
10-step process that i go through but
10-step process that i go through but today we only talked about headline
today we only talked about headline
today we only talked about headline right right well it gives a little more
right right well it gives a little more
right right well it gives a little more focused to like you said probably makes
focused to like you said probably makes
focused to like you said probably makes it easier for them to watch it yeah yeah
it easier for them to watch it yeah yeah
it easier for them to watch it yeah yeah it’s a good suggestion
it’s a good suggestion
it’s a good suggestion absolutely cool how was your you’re
absolutely cool how was your you’re
absolutely cool how was your you’re gonna update your homepage to with uh
gonna update your homepage to with uh
gonna update your homepage to with uh more yeah I did update my homepage all
more yeah I did update my homepage all
more yeah I did update my homepage all right good looks really awesome i
right good looks really awesome i
right good looks really awesome i completely changed it so when you go
completely changed it so when you go
completely changed it so when you go there actually what if i could um share
there actually what if i could um share
there actually what if i could um share the screen with you sure um okay let’s
the screen with you sure um okay let’s
the screen with you sure um okay let’s see i can reduce here we go um that’s
see i can reduce here we go um that’s
see i can reduce here we go um that’s good maybe one yeah I hit the button now
good maybe one yeah I hit the button now
good maybe one yeah I hit the button now just gonna figure out like that’s not
just gonna figure out like that’s not
just gonna figure out like that’s not the right one uh uh okay ah ok now where
the right one uh uh okay ah ok now where
the right one uh uh okay ah ok now where did you go dr. D will be a video for
did you go dr. D will be a video for
did you go dr. D will be a video for your your you could show up your video
your your you could show up your video
your your you could show up your video and the evolution that you went through
and the evolution that you went through
and the evolution that you went through before and after of your homepage yeah
before and after of your homepage yeah
before and after of your homepage yeah that’s good idea your old biddy of your
that’s good idea your old biddy of your
that’s good idea your old biddy of your old home page and a new home page cuz
old home page and a new home page cuz
old home page and a new home page cuz it’s to the elder home page basically
it’s to the elder home page basically
it’s to the elder home page basically had kind of um I just had some coffee
had kind of um I just had some coffee
had kind of um I just had some coffee about copyrighting to appeal to a
about copyrighting to appeal to a
about copyrighting to appeal to a business owner and then it had like a
business owner and then it had like a
business owner and then it had like a email signup and so instead what i did
email signup and so instead what i did
email signup and so instead what i did was i changed it to what’s wrong with
was i changed it to what’s wrong with
was i changed it to what’s wrong with that there’s nothing wrong with it but
that there’s nothing wrong with it but
that there’s nothing wrong with it but there was nothing about fantasy on there
there was nothing about fantasy on there
there was nothing about fantasy on there at all well so what’s wrong with that
at all well so what’s wrong with that
at all well so what’s wrong with that well because that’s what I’m all about
well because that’s what I’m all about
well because that’s what I’m all about but this is important read like don’t
but this is important read like don’t
but this is important read like don’t jump to the answer without telling me
jump to the answer without telling me
jump to the answer without telling me the problem right okay look so I you
the problem right okay look so I you
the problem right okay look so I you know I’m a copywriter I had a great copy
know I’m a copywriter I had a great copy
know I’m a copywriter I had a great copy of my sight but it didn’t speak to who I
of my sight but it didn’t speak to who I
of my sight but it didn’t speak to who I was right I have a change in here’s how
was right I have a change in here’s how
was right I have a change in here’s how I went to the process and here’s how you
I went to the process and here’s how you
I went to the process and here’s how you can to or here’s how i can help you go
can to or here’s how i can help you go
can to or here’s how i can help you go through that right yeah like change for
through that right yeah like change for
through that right yeah like change for the sake of change isn’t good but
the sake of change isn’t good but
the sake of change isn’t good but explaining the reason because people can
explaining the reason because people can
explaining the reason because people can go they’re gonna be on the same line
go they’re gonna be on the same line
go they’re gonna be on the same line with you where they have a website they
with you where they have a website they
with you where they have a website they just have some copy up there and they
just have some copy up there and they
just have some copy up there and they realize hey i wanna i want to stand for
realize hey i wanna i want to stand for
realize hey i wanna i want to stand for something to I want my website look
something to I want my website look
something to I want my website look different so that’s that’s how you
different so that’s that’s how you
different so that’s that’s how you connect them to be watching your video
connect them to be watching your video
connect them to be watching your video because they don’t need the answers
because they don’t need the answers
because they don’t need the answers until they understand the problem okay
until they understand the problem okay
until they understand the problem okay great okay I don’t know if you still
great okay I don’t know if you still
great okay I don’t know if you still have your old website a homepage cocky
have your old website a homepage cocky
have your old website a homepage cocky to kind of compare to what I could make
to kind of compare to what I could make
to kind of compare to what I could make a fun video oh that’s a good idea i
a fun video oh that’s a good idea i
a fun video oh that’s a good idea i don’t know if i do
don’t know if i do
don’t know if i do that yeah I don’t know if I ever took a
that yeah I don’t know if I ever took a
that yeah I don’t know if I ever took a screenshot of that would have been a
screenshot of that would have been a
screenshot of that would have been a good idea I pick a screenshot my bad
good idea I pick a screenshot my bad
good idea I pick a screenshot my bad page but not my homepage huh well maybe
page but not my homepage huh well maybe
page but not my homepage huh well maybe don’t get maybe I can recreate it um so
don’t get maybe I can recreate it um so
don’t get maybe I can recreate it um so yeah let me I can um let me show you
yeah let me I can um let me show you
yeah let me I can um let me show you right now what I do with my website okay
right now what I do with my website okay
right now what I do with my website okay can you see me I see me okay how do you
can you see me I see me okay how do you
can you see me I see me okay how do you see this okay so so you can see here now
see this okay so so you can see here now
see this okay so so you can see here now it’s got um it’s all about fantasy so
it’s got um it’s all about fantasy so
it’s got um it’s all about fantasy so there’s a there’s just a tile here
there’s a there’s just a tile here
there’s a there’s just a tile here that’s moving it has basically a little
that’s moving it has basically a little
that’s moving it has basically a little mini fantasy on story on it so it says
mini fantasy on story on it so it says
mini fantasy on story on it so it says right away to anyone who’s reading it
right away to anyone who’s reading it
right away to anyone who’s reading it like you know here’s an example of a
like you know here’s an example of a
like you know here’s an example of a fantasy and then what I’m asking people
fantasy and then what I’m asking people
fantasy and then what I’m asking people to do is share their fantasy with me um
to do is share their fantasy with me um
to do is share their fantasy with me um because that’s what I’m all about and I
because that’s what I’m all about and I
because that’s what I’m all about and I feel like um you know business owners
feel like um you know business owners
feel like um you know business owners don’t ever get the opportunity to share
don’t ever get the opportunity to share
don’t ever get the opportunity to share their own fantasy with me and I can much
their own fantasy with me and I can much
their own fantasy with me and I can much better write copy for someone if they’re
better write copy for someone if they’re
better write copy for someone if they’re willing to share you know what their
willing to share you know what their
willing to share you know what their fantasies are um and so that’s kind of
fantasies are um and so that’s kind of
fantasies are um and so that’s kind of instead of a typical email update you
instead of a typical email update you
instead of a typical email update you know L hey sign up for my email updates
know L hey sign up for my email updates
know L hey sign up for my email updates I want them to tell me their fantasy and
I want them to tell me their fantasy and
I want them to tell me their fantasy and then instead of like of some free be
then instead of like of some free be
then instead of like of some free be that’s you know kind of generic I’m
that’s you know kind of generic I’m
that’s you know kind of generic I’m going to surprise them buy it now it’s
going to surprise them buy it now it’s
going to surprise them buy it now it’s how surprised if anyone watches this but
how surprised if anyone watches this but
how surprised if anyone watches this but surprised them by writing back to them
surprised them by writing back to them
surprised them by writing back to them with a Reaper afton fantasy so it’s more
with a Reaper afton fantasy so it’s more
with a Reaper afton fantasy so it’s more in a storytelling kind of format the way
in a storytelling kind of format the way
in a storytelling kind of format the way that it is up here on the screen so has
that it is up here on the screen so has
that it is up here on the screen so has anybody nobody yet no oh look that the
anybody nobody yet no oh look that the
anybody nobody yet no oh look that the one on top the ones that scroll are
one on top the ones that scroll are
one on top the ones that scroll are fools yes that’s the idea and then you
fools yes that’s the idea and then you
fools yes that’s the idea and then you want them to do their own below right
want them to do their own below right
want them to do their own below right exactly and then with their permission
exactly and then with their permission
exactly and then with their permission I’d love to add more up here you know of
I’d love to add more up here you know of
I’d love to add more up here you know of different business owners fantasies so
different business owners fantasies so
different business owners fantasies so yeah I like I like you know it’s it’s
yeah I like I like you know it’s it’s
yeah I like I like you know it’s it’s bulb I like it because the people who
bulb I like it because the people who
bulb I like it because the people who are gonna fill that out some people
are gonna fill that out some people
are gonna fill that out some people gonna look at that and say share your
gonna look at that and say share your
gonna look at that and say share your fantasy would like this is stupid right
fantasy would like this is stupid right
fantasy would like this is stupid right right yeah like they’re never going to
right yeah like they’re never going to
right yeah like they’re never going to be a great client for you but the ones
be a great client for you but the ones
be a great client for you but the ones who do are more aligned with what you’re
who do are more aligned with what you’re
who do are more aligned with what you’re thinking the only thing I had a little
thinking the only thing I had a little
thinking the only thing I had a little bit of a disconnect between that cop bar
bit of a disconnect between that cop bar
bit of a disconnect between that cop bar and share your fantasy I’m wondering are
and share your fantasy I’m wondering are
and share your fantasy I’m wondering are you had something in that bar that said
you had something in that bar that said
you had something in that bar that said like my fantasy
like my fantasy
like my fantasy is and then right and then you put the
is and then right and then you put the
is and then right and then you put the fantasy so if you get this you get the
fantasy so if you get this you get the
fantasy so if you get this you get the only thing that that’s somebody who
only thing that that’s somebody who
only thing that that’s somebody who wrote in or here’s an example yeah okay
wrote in or here’s an example yeah okay
wrote in or here’s an example yeah okay you had that little thing on the top
you had that little thing on the top
you had that little thing on the top right like fantasy number two thousand
right like fantasy number two thousand
right like fantasy number two thousand right exactly that was the idea so they
right exactly that was the idea so they
right exactly that was the idea so they would get idea that was a fantasy yeah
would get idea that was a fantasy yeah
would get idea that was a fantasy yeah yeah I was it was maybe on up for me
yeah I was it was maybe on up for me
yeah I was it was maybe on up for me maybe was just a little too subtle where
maybe was just a little too subtle where
maybe was just a little too subtle where it starts as my fantasy is you know
it starts as my fantasy is you know
it starts as my fantasy is you know semicolon and then you write a guy yeah
semicolon and then you write a guy yeah
semicolon and then you write a guy yeah and then share your fantasy might make a
and then share your fantasy might make a
and then share your fantasy might make a little more sense something to play with
little more sense something to play with
little more sense something to play with I don’t know I like it though it’s
I don’t know I like it though it’s
I don’t know I like it though it’s different yeah that’s what I was going
different yeah that’s what I was going
different yeah that’s what I was going for well in it really I mean I really do
for well in it really I mean I really do
for well in it really I mean I really do I mean I really do believe like the
I mean I really do believe like the
I mean I really do believe like the people that I have worked with that have
people that I have worked with that have
people that I have worked with that have shared their fantasies with me I just
shared their fantasies with me I just
shared their fantasies with me I just feel like their coffee so much better
feel like their coffee so much better
feel like their coffee so much better because I get what they’re all about do
because I get what they’re all about do
because I get what they’re all about do you know to mean and again who their
you know to mean and again who their
you know to mean and again who their customers are so um it’s kind of almost
customers are so um it’s kind of almost
customers are so um it’s kind of almost like hey if you can’t share if you see
like hey if you can’t share if you see
like hey if you can’t share if you see with me then you know i’m not sure if
with me then you know i’m not sure if
with me then you know i’m not sure if I’m the right you know person work with
I’m the right you know person work with
I’m the right you know person work with right yeah very cool so did I put this
right yeah very cool so did I put this
right yeah very cool so did I put this back on the screen are we back normal I
back on the screen are we back normal I
back on the screen are we back normal I try I see you again okay guy get good so
try I see you again okay guy get good so
try I see you again okay guy get good so it’s not a few minutes left what else
it’s not a few minutes left what else
it’s not a few minutes left what else any anything else you want to go over
any anything else you want to go over
any anything else you want to go over well the only other thing I was curious
well the only other thing I was curious
well the only other thing I was curious about I have a feeling to know your
about I have a feeling to know your
about I have a feeling to know your answers but i thought i’d ask anyway um
answers but i thought i’d ask anyway um
answers but i thought i’d ask anyway um on twitter one of the ideas i had was to
on twitter one of the ideas i had was to
on twitter one of the ideas i had was to share fantasy stories on twitter um and
share fantasy stories on twitter um and
share fantasy stories on twitter um and I was kind of going back and forth about
I was kind of going back and forth about
I was kind of going back and forth about should I just put it on my own Twitter
should I just put it on my own Twitter
should I just put it on my own Twitter handle and just kind of like you know
handle and just kind of like you know
handle and just kind of like you know hashtag you know much fantasy or
hashtag you know much fantasy or
hashtag you know much fantasy or something like that so it’s like a
something like that so it’s like a
something like that so it’s like a little indication that it’s a little
little indication that it’s a little
little indication that it’s a little fantasy story or would it be better to
fantasy story or would it be better to
fantasy story or would it be better to set up a new twitter handle that’s all
set up a new twitter handle that’s all
set up a new twitter handle that’s all about it’s all this is fantasy stories
about it’s all this is fantasy stories
about it’s all this is fantasy stories and then just and then just on my own
and then just and then just on my own
and then just and then just on my own Twitter handle like you know promote it
Twitter handle like you know promote it
Twitter handle like you know promote it through that it as an example and what
through that it as an example and what
through that it as an example and what do you think my answer would be to keep
do you think my answer would be to keep
do you think my answer would be to keep it on man to handle you’re right because
it on man to handle you’re right because
it on man to handle you’re right because listen fantasy is you right right so
listen fantasy is you right right so
listen fantasy is you right right so your own twitter handle is all about
your own twitter handle is all about
your own twitter handle is all about fantasy anyway even if I’m telling
fantasy anyway even if I’m telling
fantasy anyway even if I’m telling stories it’s fantasies something else
stories it’s fantasies something else
stories it’s fantasies something else right right right now recognizing
right right right now recognizing
right right right now recognizing somebody who’s living out their fantasy
somebody who’s living out their fantasy
somebody who’s living out their fantasy but
but
but yeah the stuff you share you can’t you
yeah the stuff you share you can’t you
yeah the stuff you share you can’t you can’t help but make it about fantasy
can’t help but make it about fantasy
can’t help but make it about fantasy because that’s who you are right right
because that’s who you are right right
because that’s who you are right right no I agree i’ve just seen other authors
no I agree i’ve just seen other authors
no I agree i’ve just seen other authors do something similar to this and I’ve
do something similar to this and I’ve
do something similar to this and I’ve always wondered like okay you know
always wondered like okay you know
always wondered like okay you know what’s the thought here like are they
what’s the thought here like are they
what’s the thought here like are they doing it because they want to really
doing it because they want to really
doing it because they want to really separate from you know their own you
separate from you know their own you
separate from you know their own you know personality or are they just are
know personality or are they just are
know personality or are they just are they doing because they have more
they doing because they have more
they doing because they have more character space you know I mean like I
character space you know I mean like I
character space you know I mean like I mean as simple as that is you know that
mean as simple as that is you know that
mean as simple as that is you know that is probably a factor but um I don’t know
is probably a factor but um I don’t know
is probably a factor but um I don’t know I I like the idea to vent oh man twitter
I I like the idea to vent oh man twitter
I I like the idea to vent oh man twitter handle too so I just thought I’d ask but
handle too so I just thought I’d ask but
handle too so I just thought I’d ask but you thought even though I knew I knew
you thought even though I knew I knew
you thought even though I knew I knew you’d say good yeah all right so you uh
you’d say good yeah all right so you uh
you’d say good yeah all right so you uh you have some videos to send me I’m
you have some videos to send me I’m
you have some videos to send me I’m excited hopefully for our next call so i
excited hopefully for our next call so i
excited hopefully for our next call so i could take a look or maybe we’ll do it
could take a look or maybe we’ll do it
could take a look or maybe we’ll do it live again maybe we’ll do a live again i
live again maybe we’ll do a live again i
live again maybe we’ll do a live again i like that i like watching it live okay
like that i like watching it live okay
like that i like watching it live okay yeah let’s do it live again alright cool
yeah let’s do it live again alright cool
yeah let’s do it live again alright cool I love it let’s do it lark great cool
I love it let’s do it lark great cool
I love it let’s do it lark great cool okay thanks Jay I’m sorry Kevin good to
okay thanks Jay I’m sorry Kevin good to
okay thanks Jay I’m sorry Kevin good to see you in a bike
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