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What happens in prisons and what ought to happen. | Roopa D Moudgil | TEDxBangalore


for most of you your idea of prisons

for most of you your idea of prisons come from movies who can forget that

come from movies who can forget that

come from movies who can forget that famous line by Amitabh Bachchan in the

famous line by Amitabh Bachchan in the

famous line by Amitabh Bachchan in the movie Kalia wherein he says hum Johar

movie Kalia wherein he says hum Johar

movie Kalia wherein he says hum Johar cutting out their line where he says

cutting out their line where he says

cutting out their line where he says shooter hoodie here though this line

shooter hoodie here though this line

shooter hoodie here though this line romanticizes prison scene in actuality

romanticizes prison scene in actuality

romanticizes prison scene in actuality prisons are dark dungeons everything

prisons are dark dungeons everything

prisons are dark dungeons everything about them is grim and gray particularly

about them is grim and gray particularly

about them is grim and gray particularly when it comes to prisoners who are poor

when it comes to prisoners who are poor

when it comes to prisoners who are poor prisons are supposed to be great

prisons are supposed to be great

prisons are supposed to be great levelers unfortunately they are not

levelers unfortunately they are not

levelers unfortunately they are not discrimination is writ large in prisons

discrimination is writ large in prisons

discrimination is writ large in prisons flouting rules laws coat orders if you

flouting rules laws coat orders if you

flouting rules laws coat orders if you have no money to bribe prisons will

have no money to bribe prisons will

have no money to bribe prisons will literally turn out to be hell for you

literally turn out to be hell for you

literally turn out to be hell for you on the other hand there is a quid pro

on the other hand there is a quid pro

on the other hand there is a quid pro quo arrangement between the prison

quo arrangement between the prison

quo arrangement between the prison officials and the wealthy prisoners so

officials and the wealthy prisoners so

officials and the wealthy prisoners so what are these privileges that are

what are these privileges that are

what are these privileges that are available to some flouting rules and

available to some flouting rules and

available to some flouting rules and laws firstly privileges in jails is

laws firstly privileges in jails is

laws firstly privileges in jails is mostly about space and cleanliness while

mostly about space and cleanliness while

mostly about space and cleanliness while an ordinary prisoner is dumped in a cell

an ordinary prisoner is dumped in a cell

an ordinary prisoner is dumped in a cell which is overcrowded so much so that

which is overcrowded so much so that

which is overcrowded so much so that even to sleep prisoners have to take

even to sleep prisoners have to take

even to sleep prisoners have to take turns

turns

turns not to mention the toilets that are very

not to mention the toilets that are very

not to mention the toilets that are very dirty and abode of infections on the

dirty and abode of infections on the

dirty and abode of infections on the other hand a wealthy prisoner can manage

other hand a wealthy prisoner can manage

other hand a wealthy prisoner can manage to get a single cell all for oneself

to get a single cell all for oneself

to get a single cell all for oneself when I was d IG prisons in Bengaluru I

when I was d IG prisons in Bengaluru I

when I was d IG prisons in Bengaluru I had reported on jail irregularities

had reported on jail irregularities

had reported on jail irregularities wherein I had mentioned how a

wherein I had mentioned how a

wherein I had mentioned how a politically powerful prisoner was given

politically powerful prisoner was given

politically powerful prisoner was given five cells with one cell being used as

five cells with one cell being used as

five cells with one cell being used as the yoga room another as sleeping room

the yoga room another as sleeping room

the yoga room another as sleeping room another to keep belongings and so on

another to keep belongings and so on

another to keep belongings and so on coupled with 150 feet length of corridor

coupled with 150 feet length of corridor

coupled with 150 feet length of corridor be used as

be used as

be used as private walking space where none could

private walking space where none could

private walking space where none could enter another area of privileges is

enter another area of privileges is

enter another area of privileges is about visitors you must have seen in the

about visitors you must have seen in the

about visitors you must have seen in the movies that there is a meshed window

movies that there is a meshed window

movies that there is a meshed window between the prisoner and the visitor

between the prisoner and the visitor

between the prisoner and the visitor often the prisoner has to struggle to

often the prisoner has to struggle to

often the prisoner has to struggle to get a glimpse of the family members

get a glimpse of the family members

get a glimpse of the family members across that window sometimes has to

across that window sometimes has to

across that window sometimes has to shout on top of his voice to be heard

shout on top of his voice to be heard

shout on top of his voice to be heard and even before he completes the

and even before he completes the

and even before he completes the conversation within two minutes he will

conversation within two minutes he will

conversation within two minutes he will be whisked away on the other hand a

be whisked away on the other hand a

be whisked away on the other hand a wealthy prisoner can manage to get a

wealthy prisoner can manage to get a

wealthy prisoner can manage to get a private room to meet the visitors with

private room to meet the visitors with

private room to meet the visitors with no restrictions whatsoever on the

no restrictions whatsoever on the

no restrictions whatsoever on the duration of visit or the number of

duration of visit or the number of

duration of visit or the number of visitors you might find it unbelievable

visitors you might find it unbelievable

visitors you might find it unbelievable but it is actually true

but it is actually true

but it is actually true that if one is resourceful one can get

that if one is resourceful one can get

that if one is resourceful one can get LED TV with all channels newspapers

LED TV with all channels newspapers

LED TV with all channels newspapers magazines air cooler induction stoves at

magazines air cooler induction stoves at

magazines air cooler induction stoves at times refrigerator to keep cold drink or

times refrigerator to keep cold drink or

times refrigerator to keep cold drink or energy drink can where one’s own branded

energy drink can where one’s own branded

energy drink can where one’s own branded clothes as against the jail uniform

clothes as against the jail uniform

clothes as against the jail uniform use of mobile phones is rampant and

use of mobile phones is rampant and

use of mobile phones is rampant and sometimes the system is misused to such

sometimes the system is misused to such

sometimes the system is misused to such an extent that prisoners go and sit in

an extent that prisoners go and sit in

an extent that prisoners go and sit in the jail officials room and use the

the jail officials room and use the

the jail officials room and use the official landline phones not very long

official landline phones not very long

official landline phones not very long ago interestingly a mining baron of

ago interestingly a mining baron of

ago interestingly a mining baron of south india was put behind bars by the

south india was put behind bars by the

south india was put behind bars by the orders of the highest court of this

orders of the highest court of this

orders of the highest court of this country and you will not believe he was

country and you will not believe he was

country and you will not believe he was about to get constructed for himself a

about to get constructed for himself a

about to get constructed for himself a tennis court inside the prison

tennis court inside the prison

tennis court inside the prison thankfully the saving grace was that he

thankfully the saving grace was that he

thankfully the saving grace was that he went out on bail another area of

went out on bail another area of

went out on bail another area of privileges is about food while food is

privileges is about food while food is

privileges is about food while food is served arbitrarily to poor prisoners

served arbitrarily to poor prisoners

served arbitrarily to poor prisoners sometimes less than required sometimes

sometimes less than required sometimes

sometimes less than required sometimes uncooked and so on

uncooked and so on

uncooked and so on a wealthy prisoner can manage to get

a wealthy prisoner can manage to get

a wealthy prisoner can manage to get healthy delicious food cooked according

healthy delicious food cooked according

healthy delicious food cooked according to one’s own tastes

to one’s own tastes

to one’s own tastes either you can get it cooked in jail or

either you can get it cooked in jail or

either you can get it cooked in jail or can get it from home or hotel every day

can get it from home or hotel every day

can get it from home or hotel every day hospital visits are another area on the

hospital visits are another area on the

hospital visits are another area on the pretext of showing to a specialized

pretext of showing to a specialized

pretext of showing to a specialized doctor prisoners often go and get

doctor prisoners often go and get

doctor prisoners often go and get admitted in high five air-conditioned

admitted in high five air-conditioned

admitted in high five air-conditioned hospitals where they can move freely

hospitals where they can move freely

hospitals where they can move freely meet anyone and everyone eat the desired

meet anyone and everyone eat the desired

meet anyone and everyone eat the desired food and so on the Supreme Court noted

food and so on the Supreme Court noted

food and so on the Supreme Court noted that an MLA member of Legislative

that an MLA member of Legislative

that an MLA member of Legislative Assembly from eastern India had spent

Assembly from eastern India had spent

Assembly from eastern India had spent out of his four years imprisonment term

out of his four years imprisonment term

out of his four years imprisonment term had spent about one and half years in a

had spent about one and half years in a

had spent about one and half years in a hospital outside the prison similarly a

hospital outside the prison similarly a

hospital outside the prison similarly a query under the Right to Information Act

query under the Right to Information Act

query under the Right to Information Act in Nitish katara murder case reveals

in Nitish katara murder case reveals

in Nitish katara murder case reveals that the accused

that the accused

that the accused within two years jail term had gone out

within two years jail term had gone out

within two years jail term had gone out sixty six times as an OPD patient to a

sixty six times as an OPD patient to a

sixty six times as an OPD patient to a hospital outside the prison if this is

hospital outside the prison if this is

hospital outside the prison if this is about the influential prisoners what

about the influential prisoners what

about the influential prisoners what about the underdogs the underdog

about the underdogs the underdog

about the underdogs the underdog prisoners are more at risk of catching

prisoners are more at risk of catching

prisoners are more at risk of catching infections because they are dumped in

infections because they are dumped in

infections because they are dumped in overcrowded unhygenic cells hardly any

overcrowded unhygenic cells hardly any

overcrowded unhygenic cells hardly any medical tests or diagnosis takes place

medical tests or diagnosis takes place

medical tests or diagnosis takes place to tackle this problem during my stint I

to tackle this problem during my stint I

to tackle this problem during my stint I had initiated a small step whereby every

had initiated a small step whereby every

had initiated a small step whereby every prisoner on his day one of entry into

prisoner on his day one of entry into

prisoner on his day one of entry into the prison would be required to undergo

the prison would be required to undergo

the prison would be required to undergo series of medical tests including that

series of medical tests including that

series of medical tests including that of HIV and tuberculosis this was done

of HIV and tuberculosis this was done

of HIV and tuberculosis this was done with two objectives one early diagnosis

with two objectives one early diagnosis

with two objectives one early diagnosis leads to early treatment second isolate

leads to early treatment second isolate

leads to early treatment second isolate individuals with tuberculosis to check

individuals with tuberculosis to check

individuals with tuberculosis to check its spread among others it’s a very

its spread among others it’s a very

its spread among others it’s a very common talk among prisoners about the

common talk among prisoners about the

common talk among prisoners about the bribe rate for parole and every other

bribe rate for parole and every other

bribe rate for parole and every other facility no moneyed prisoners will not

facility no moneyed prisoners will not

facility no moneyed prisoners will not even get service of lawyers during my

even get service of lawyers during my

even get service of lawyers during my stint I had identified about eight of

stint I had identified about eight of

stint I had identified about eight of them who were from extremely poor

them who were from extremely poor

them who were from extremely poor socioeconomic status they were non

socioeconomic status they were non

socioeconomic status they were non locals so did not know local language

locals so did not know local language

locals so did not know local language had no local acquaintance and for this

had no local acquaintance and for this

had no local acquaintance and for this same reason they also did not have the

same reason they also did not have the

same reason they also did not have the service of lawyers they were forgotten

service of lawyers they were forgotten

service of lawyers they were forgotten either after chargesheet or after arrest

either after chargesheet or after arrest

either after chargesheet or after arrest so I put them through free legal aid

so I put them through free legal aid

so I put them through free legal aid available with the district legal

available with the district legal

available with the district legal services authority another very

services authority another very

services authority another very important area of differentiation is the

important area of differentiation is the

important area of differentiation is the behavior of the prison officials when a

behavior of the prison officials when a

behavior of the prison officials when a very powerful politician or a very rich

very powerful politician or a very rich

very powerful politician or a very rich businessman lands in prison prison

businessman lands in prison prison

businessman lands in prison prison officials greet them with salutes and

officials greet them with salutes and

officials greet them with salutes and smiles whereas for an ordinary prisoner

smiles whereas for an ordinary prisoner

smiles whereas for an ordinary prisoner the day begins and ends with abuses

the day begins and ends with abuses

the day begins and ends with abuses ill-treatment is rampant disgruntled

ill-treatment is rampant disgruntled

ill-treatment is rampant disgruntled prison staff take out their frustration

prison staff take out their frustration

prison staff take out their frustration on hapless powerless prisoners as a

on hapless powerless prisoners as a

on hapless powerless prisoners as a prisoner confided at every step it is

prisoner confided at every step it is

prisoner confided at every step it is either the money or the body that is up

either the money or the body that is up

either the money or the body that is up for grabs

for grabs

for grabs so in this process prisoners get

so in this process prisoners get

so in this process prisoners get dehumanized now some of you may ask me

dehumanized now some of you may ask me

dehumanized now some of you may ask me what is the big deal if some privileges

what is the big deal if some privileges

what is the big deal if some privileges are given to certain prisoners well to

are given to certain prisoners well to

are given to certain prisoners well to them I would like to say it is of utmost

them I would like to say it is of utmost

them I would like to say it is of utmost concern and needs to be checked simply

concern and needs to be checked simply

concern and needs to be checked simply because if you spare a moment of thought

because if you spare a moment of thought

because if you spare a moment of thought as to what propels people to commit

as to what propels people to commit

as to what propels people to commit crime you will realize that the

crime you will realize that the

crime you will realize that the socio-economic theory says conditions of

socio-economic theory says conditions of

socio-economic theory says conditions of inequality discrimination deprivation

inequality discrimination deprivation

inequality discrimination deprivation prejudice against the poor ill treatment

prejudice against the poor ill treatment

prejudice against the poor ill treatment of the poor are all the reasons that

of the poor are all the reasons that

of the poor are all the reasons that compel people to commit crime now if the

compel people to commit crime now if the

compel people to commit crime now if the same conditions of inequality

same conditions of inequality

same conditions of inequality discrimination deprivation are all

discrimination deprivation are all

discrimination deprivation are all replicated inside the four walls of the

replicated inside the four walls of the

replicated inside the four walls of the prison what motivation will a poor

prison what motivation will a poor

prison what motivation will a poor prisoner have to reform himself his idea

prisoner have to reform himself his idea

prisoner have to reform himself his idea or belief will get reinforced that

or belief will get reinforced that

or belief will get reinforced that committing crimes breaking laws taking

committing crimes breaking laws taking

committing crimes breaking laws taking shortcuts are the only methods for a

shortcuts are the only methods for a

shortcuts are the only methods for a comfortable living unfair prison system

comfortable living unfair prison system

comfortable living unfair prison system is more dangerous than anything else

is more dangerous than anything else

is more dangerous than anything else simply because

simply because

simply because prisoners will go in and come out as

prisoners will go in and come out as

prisoners will go in and come out as bigger criminals it is therefore a

bigger criminals it is therefore a

bigger criminals it is therefore a foremost necessity that we create

foremost necessity that we create

foremost necessity that we create conditions of equality and

conditions of equality and

conditions of equality and non-discrimination in prisons but this

non-discrimination in prisons but this

non-discrimination in prisons but this is not easy to achieve prisons are the

is not easy to achieve prisons are the

is not easy to achieve prisons are the most inert to change among all other

most inert to change among all other

most inert to change among all other governmental institutions there is a

governmental institutions there is a

governmental institutions there is a reason for this every other governmental

reason for this every other governmental

reason for this every other governmental institution including police stations

institution including police stations

institution including police stations there are complained of high handedness

there are complained of high handedness

there are complained of high handedness and torture are open to general public

and torture are open to general public

and torture are open to general public to the media to the RT activist social

to the media to the RT activist social

to the media to the RT activist social activists and so on anyone can enter

activists and so on anyone can enter

activists and so on anyone can enter anytime but what about prisons none can

anytime but what about prisons none can

anytime but what about prisons none can enter so it is in this opaque system the

enter so it is in this opaque system the

enter so it is in this opaque system the whims and fancies of the prison

whims and fancies of the prison

whims and fancies of the prison officials become the law prisoners are

officials become the law prisoners are

officials become the law prisoners are completely at their mercy prison

completely at their mercy prison

completely at their mercy prison officers can turn demonic and unleash

officers can turn demonic and unleash

officers can turn demonic and unleash terror in the dark caves called prisons

terror in the dark caves called prisons

terror in the dark caves called prisons it is therefore high time we sensitized

it is therefore high time we sensitized

it is therefore high time we sensitized sensitize the prison staff curb

sensitize the prison staff curb

sensitize the prison staff curb corruption create conditions of fair

corruption create conditions of fair

corruption create conditions of fair play and justice and equality in the

play and justice and equality in the

play and justice and equality in the prisons for this technology can come in

prisons for this technology can come in

prisons for this technology can come in as a savior CCTV cameras installed in

as a savior CCTV cameras installed in

as a savior CCTV cameras installed in every cell can be monitored by the

every cell can be monitored by the

every cell can be monitored by the courts or the prison headquarters and

courts or the prison headquarters and

courts or the prison headquarters and can put an end to much of the woes of

can put an end to much of the woes of

can put an end to much of the woes of prisoners well to conclude I will only

prisoners well to conclude I will only

prisoners well to conclude I will only say when a high-profile criminal is put

say when a high-profile criminal is put

say when a high-profile criminal is put behind bars after spending millions of

behind bars after spending millions of

behind bars after spending millions of taxpayers money and decades time society

taxpayers money and decades time society

taxpayers money and decades time society heaves a sigh of relief but ironically

heaves a sigh of relief but ironically

heaves a sigh of relief but ironically for that high-profile offender it is

for that high-profile offender it is

for that high-profile offender it is just the beginning of a second honeymoon

just the beginning of a second honeymoon

just the beginning of a second honeymoon it is high time our prisons became

it is high time our prisons became

it is high time our prisons became correctional institutions with emphasis

correctional institutions with emphasis

correctional institutions with emphasis on reform and rehab

on reform and rehab

on reform and rehab mutation else prisons will remain

mutation else prisons will remain

mutation else prisons will remain breeding grounds of more perilous

breeding grounds of more perilous

breeding grounds of more perilous criminals who will pose humongous

criminals who will pose humongous

criminals who will pose humongous problems to the society thank you

problems to the society thank you

problems to the society thank you [Applause]

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