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[Applause] 400 years ago most of the people

400 years ago most of the people

400 years ago most of the people believed that the earth was carefully

believed that the earth was carefully

believed that the earth was carefully placed at the center of the universe and

placed at the center of the universe and

placed at the center of the universe and that everything else the heavens were

that everything else the heavens were

that everything else the heavens were orbiting around us somehow this

orbiting around us somehow this

orbiting around us somehow this difference led people to believe that

difference led people to believe that

difference led people to believe that the earth and the sky were completely

the earth and the sky were completely

the earth and the sky were completely different things

different things

different things but you know one day Galileo Galilei he

but you know one day Galileo Galilei he

but you know one day Galileo Galilei he took his new telescope he did out there

took his new telescope he did out there

took his new telescope he did out there did new observations about the night sky

did new observations about the night sky

did new observations about the night sky and what he saw is that these

and what he saw is that these

and what he saw is that these observations agreed very well with

observations agreed very well with

observations agreed very well with mathematical models of copper-nickel

mathematical models of copper-nickel

mathematical models of copper-nickel which basically said that we were not at

which basically said that we were not at

which basically said that we were not at the center of the universe but rather

the center of the universe but rather

the center of the universe but rather that we were orbiting around the Sun as

that we were orbiting around the Sun as

that we were orbiting around the Sun as well as everything else out there so it

well as everything else out there so it

well as everything else out there so it turned out that actually we were not

turned out that actually we were not

turned out that actually we were not that special after all and why am I

that special after all and why am I

that special after all and why am I telling you this because actually over

telling you this because actually over

telling you this because actually over the last hundred years we’ve been living

the last hundred years we’ve been living

the last hundred years we’ve been living a very similar situation for thousands

a very similar situation for thousands

a very similar situation for thousands of years most of the people believed

of years most of the people believed

of years most of the people believed that the motion that the behavior of

that the motion that the behavior of

that the motion that the behavior of atoms of objects of everything that is

atoms of objects of everything that is

atoms of objects of everything that is inner matter was behaving according to

inner matter was behaving according to

inner matter was behaving according to deterministic rules basically that there

deterministic rules basically that there

deterministic rules basically that there is no randomness no unpredictability in

is no randomness no unpredictability in

is no randomness no unpredictability in these atoms in these objects so we think

these atoms in these objects so we think

these atoms in these objects so we think about baseball right we take the ball we

about baseball right we take the ball we

about baseball right we take the ball we throw it in that direction we expect the

throw it in that direction we expect the

throw it in that direction we expect the ball is going to go out there right we

ball is going to go out there right we

ball is going to go out there right we do not expect that the ball is going to

do not expect that the ball is going to

do not expect that the ball is going to start doing random stuff in there but

start doing random stuff in there but

start doing random stuff in there but for some reason that escapes our

for some reason that escapes our

for some reason that escapes our understanding these deterministic rules

understanding these deterministic rules

understanding these deterministic rules didn’t seem to apply to us somehow we

didn’t seem to apply to us somehow we

didn’t seem to apply to us somehow we can make decisions we can behave in

can make decisions we can behave in

can make decisions we can behave in unpredictable ways we have desires and

unpredictable ways we have desires and

unpredictable ways we have desires and this led a lot of people to believe that

this led a lot of people to believe that

this led a lot of people to believe that ourselves and matter are very different

ourselves and matter are very different

ourselves and matter are very different things

things

things even though we are made of matter of

even though we are made of matter of

even though we are made of matter of course but you know observations that

course but you know observations that

course but you know observations that have been done over the last decades

have been done over the last decades

have been done over the last decades tell us that actually these atoms seems

tell us that actually these atoms seems

tell us that actually these atoms seems to be a bit naughty and that every time

to be a bit naughty and that every time

to be a bit naughty and that every time that we go out there and we

that we go out there and we

that we go out there and we at them they seem to be improvising they

at them they seem to be improvising they

at them they seem to be improvising they seem to be showing every time a

seem to be showing every time a

seem to be showing every time a different face

different face

different face they are very unpredictable over the

they are very unpredictable over the

they are very unpredictable over the last five years I’ve been working on

last five years I’ve been working on

last five years I’ve been working on developing quantum technologies for

developing quantum technologies for

developing quantum technologies for cybersecurity and computation but last

cybersecurity and computation but last

cybersecurity and computation but last year on November 30th of 2016

year on November 30th of 2016

year on November 30th of 2016 together with colleagues from more than

together with colleagues from more than

together with colleagues from more than 15 universities around the world we

15 universities around the world we

15 universities around the world we wanted to do a new experiment to prove

wanted to do a new experiment to prove

wanted to do a new experiment to prove whether or not atoms could improvise and

whether or not atoms could improvise and

whether or not atoms could improvise and for doing these experiments we needed

for doing these experiments we needed

for doing these experiments we needed something very very very special what

something very very very special what

something very very very special what very special for a physics experiment is

very special for a physics experiment is

very special for a physics experiment is we needed people we needed thousands of

we needed people we needed thousands of

we needed people we needed thousands of people and why we needed them to make

people and why we needed them to make

people and why we needed them to make choices so we built this videogame and

choices so we built this videogame and

choices so we built this videogame and then we asked people to log in and then

then we asked people to log in and then

then we asked people to log in and then we were asking them to make choices

we were asking them to make choices

we were asking them to make choices between zeros and ones as fast as they

between zeros and ones as fast as they

between zeros and ones as fast as they could we were taking all these choices

could we were taking all these choices

could we were taking all these choices then and we were sending them to 13

then and we were sending them to 13

then and we were sending them to 13 experiments that were prepared all over

experiments that were prepared all over

experiments that were prepared all over the world this project was called the

the world this project was called the

the world this project was called the big Bell test and this is the story that

big Bell test and this is the story that

big Bell test and this is the story that I want to share with all of you today

I want to share with all of you today

I want to share with all of you today the story on how thousands of people and

the story on how thousands of people and

the story on how thousands of people and their choices helped us testing the laws

their choices helped us testing the laws

their choices helped us testing the laws of physics but let me start by going

of physics but let me start by going

of physics but let me start by going first at the beginning of the 20th

first at the beginning of the 20th

first at the beginning of the 20th century

century

century when most of these ideas started in

when most of these ideas started in

when most of these ideas started in those days a new theory emerged and

those days a new theory emerged and

those days a new theory emerged and basically for the first time in physics

basically for the first time in physics

basically for the first time in physics it was telling us that atoms could

it was telling us that atoms could

it was telling us that atoms could improvise that atoms had

improvise that atoms had

improvise that atoms had unpredictability and this theory was

unpredictability and this theory was

unpredictability and this theory was quantum mechanics which basically

quantum mechanics which basically

quantum mechanics which basically describes everything happening in the

describes everything happening in the

describes everything happening in the scale of atoms and photons and this tiny

scale of atoms and photons and this tiny

scale of atoms and photons and this tiny world you know the idea that quantum

world you know the idea that quantum

world you know the idea that quantum mechanics was forcing us to give up the

mechanics was forcing us to give up the

mechanics was forcing us to give up the idea of the Turman ISM that atoms were

idea of the Turman ISM that atoms were

idea of the Turman ISM that atoms were had to follow a strict rules bothered a

had to follow a strict rules bothered a

had to follow a strict rules bothered a lot of people and fascinating discussion

lot of people and fascinating discussion

lot of people and fascinating discussion emerged in the physics community of

emerged in the physics community of

emerged in the physics community of these days for instance it’s very famous

these days for instance it’s very famous

these days for instance it’s very famous the discussion between these two

the discussion between these two

the discussion between these two gentlemen one of them is a very

gentlemen one of them is a very

gentlemen one of them is a very understand and the other one is Niels

understand and the other one is Niels

understand and the other one is Niels Bohr two of the most important figures

Bohr two of the most important figures

Bohr two of the most important figures of modern physics you know the

of modern physics you know the

of modern physics you know the conversations were fascinating and this

conversations were fascinating and this

conversations were fascinating and this that’s what we are going to do now have

that’s what we are going to do now have

that’s what we are going to do now have a quick look at what they say

God does not play dice you know this is

God does not play dice you know this is what other Einstein or something like

what other Einstein or something like

what other Einstein or something like this whatever Einstein told Niels Bohr

this whatever Einstein told Niels Bohr

this whatever Einstein told Niels Bohr ones and basically he was making crystal

ones and basically he was making crystal

ones and basically he was making crystal clear that he didn’t like the idea that

clear that he didn’t like the idea that

clear that he didn’t like the idea that objects could behave in unpredictable

objects could behave in unpredictable

objects could behave in unpredictable ways that atoms could be improvising

ways that atoms could be improvising

ways that atoms could be improvising he believed that any reasonable physical

he believed that any reasonable physical

he believed that any reasonable physical Theory should be able to make this kind

Theory should be able to make this kind

Theory should be able to make this kind of predictions and quantum mechanics

of predictions and quantum mechanics

of predictions and quantum mechanics didn’t allow us so he concluded that

didn’t allow us so he concluded that

didn’t allow us so he concluded that quantum mechanics was not telling the

quantum mechanics was not telling the

quantum mechanics was not telling the whole story and that new and better

whole story and that new and better

whole story and that new and better theories were yet to come in which atoms

theories were yet to come in which atoms

theories were yet to come in which atoms didn’t improvise and you know in

didn’t improvise and you know in

didn’t improvise and you know in response what Niels Bohr said is

response what Niels Bohr said is

response what Niels Bohr said is Einstein be careful when you tell god

Einstein be careful when you tell god

Einstein be careful when you tell god what to do and he probably believed that

what to do and he probably believed that

what to do and he probably believed that whether we like it or not this is what

whether we like it or not this is what

whether we like it or not this is what happens in there in the scale of atoms

happens in there in the scale of atoms

happens in there in the scale of atoms so we better get used to these new ideas

so we better get used to these new ideas

so we better get used to these new ideas unfortunately this was 1920’s 1930’s and

unfortunately this was 1920’s 1930’s and

unfortunately this was 1920’s 1930’s and there was no way to test who was right

there was no way to test who was right

there was no way to test who was right so everything remained in the

so everything remained in the

so everything remained in the philosophical domain but you know in

philosophical domain but you know in

philosophical domain but you know in 1964 everything changed dramatically

1964 everything changed dramatically

1964 everything changed dramatically when John Bell who was a physicist at

when John Bell who was a physicist at

when John Bell who was a physicist at CERN in Switzerland he groped one of the

CERN in Switzerland he groped one of the

CERN in Switzerland he groped one of the most important and profound theorems of

most important and profound theorems of

most important and profound theorems of the history of physics and made a major

the history of physics and made a major

the history of physics and made a major contribution to this debate

basically he allow us to prove who was

basically he allow us to prove who was right whether it was Einstein who

right whether it was Einstein who

right whether it was Einstein who believed that quantum mechanics was not

believed that quantum mechanics was not

believed that quantum mechanics was not the whole story and that new and better

the whole story and that new and better

the whole story and that new and better theories were to come in which atoms

theories were to come in which atoms

theories were to come in which atoms didn’t improvise or whether it was Niels

didn’t improvise or whether it was Niels

didn’t improvise or whether it was Niels Bohr who said that

Bohr who said that

Bohr who said that this is worthless and we better get used

this is worthless and we better get used

this is worthless and we better get used to these ideas and what do we need to do

to these ideas and what do we need to do

to these ideas and what do we need to do about tests let me ask you a question

about tests let me ask you a question

about tests let me ask you a question first I cannot see you but raise your

first I cannot see you but raise your

first I cannot see you but raise your hand if you’ve ever heard about the

hand if you’ve ever heard about the

hand if you’ve ever heard about the concept of entanglement or screen better

concept of entanglement or screen better

concept of entanglement or screen better screaming entanglement is one of the

screaming entanglement is one of the

screaming entanglement is one of the most exotic properties of quantum

most exotic properties of quantum

most exotic properties of quantum mechanics and basically it tell us that

mechanics and basically it tell us that

mechanics and basically it tell us that we can take two atoms two electrons two

we can take two atoms two electrons two

we can take two atoms two electrons two tiny particles separate them as much as

tiny particles separate them as much as

tiny particles separate them as much as we want we can even put one in one

we want we can even put one in one

we want we can even put one in one extreme of the Milky Way and the other

extreme of the Milky Way and the other

extreme of the Milky Way and the other one in the other that what’s going to

one in the other that what’s going to

one in the other that what’s going to happen is that when we look at one of

happen is that when we look at one of

happen is that when we look at one of them wouldn’t we measure one of these

them wouldn’t we measure one of these

them wouldn’t we measure one of these particles there is an immediate effect

particles there is an immediate effect

particles there is an immediate effect on the other without information

on the other without information

on the other without information traveling from one place to the other

traveling from one place to the other

traveling from one place to the other you know and this is kind of

you know and this is kind of

you know and this is kind of mind-blowing there is nothing even close

mind-blowing there is nothing even close

mind-blowing there is nothing even close in our everyday life experience and this

in our everyday life experience and this

in our everyday life experience and this is why it’s hard to find good examples

is why it’s hard to find good examples

is why it’s hard to find good examples but somehow is like these particles

but somehow is like these particles

but somehow is like these particles create a connection that in the future

create a connection that in the future

create a connection that in the future when we separate them we cannot do

when we separate them we cannot do

when we separate them we cannot do something to one of them without the

something to one of them without the

something to one of them without the other one noticing but going back to

other one noticing but going back to

other one noticing but going back to what we need for doing a belters we need

what we need for doing a belters we need

what we need for doing a belters we need three things one entangled particles

three things one entangled particles

three things one entangled particles second good measurement devices to

second good measurement devices to

second good measurement devices to measure these particles and three a

measure these particles and three a

measure these particles and three a method to make choices about which

method to make choices about which

method to make choices about which measurements we are going to do to these

measurements we are going to do to these

measurements we are going to do to these particles over the years technological

particles over the years technological

particles over the years technological progress has been made and it turns out

progress has been made and it turns out

progress has been made and it turns out that we are very good at building these

that we are very good at building these

that we are very good at building these devices but in the big Bell test we

devices but in the big Bell test we

devices but in the big Bell test we wanted to do something different

wanted to do something different

wanted to do something different we wanted to find an alternative to

we wanted to find an alternative to

we wanted to find an alternative to making questions using machines or using

making questions using machines or using

making questions using machines or using computers and that’s why we asked humans

computers and that’s why we asked humans

computers and that’s why we asked humans to help us that’s why we built this

to help us that’s why we built this

to help us that’s why we built this videogame that way we asked people to

videogame that way we asked people to

videogame that way we asked people to make choices between zeros and ones and

make choices between zeros and ones and

make choices between zeros and ones and that’s how we used all these choices and

that’s how we used all these choices and

that’s how we used all these choices and experiments to test the laws of physics

experiments to test the laws of physics

experiments to test the laws of physics all the experiments happened in November

all the experiments happened in November

all the experiments happened in November 30th of 2016 last year and I have to

30th of 2016 last year and I have to

30th of 2016 last year and I have to confess that before the day I was scared

confess that before the day I was scared

confess that before the day I was scared to death you know we were preparing for

to death you know we were preparing for

to death you know we were preparing for over a year for this experiment a lot of

over a year for this experiment a lot of

over a year for this experiment a lot of people was putting passion and not a lot

people was putting passion and not a lot

people was putting passion and not a lot of hours to make it happen

of hours to make it happen

of hours to make it happen but at the end of the day if people

but at the end of the day if people

but at the end of the day if people didn’t show up all this effort was for

didn’t show up all this effort was for

didn’t show up all this effort was for nothing but then November 30 has arrived

nothing but then November 30 has arrived

nothing but then November 30 has arrived and the response from people was amazing

and the response from people was amazing

and the response from people was amazing this is a density plot that shows were

this is a density plot that shows were

this is a density plot that shows were the decisions where the choices were

the decisions where the choices were

the decisions where the choices were coming from a November 30th basically

coming from a November 30th basically

coming from a November 30th basically from all over the world over the course

from all over the world over the course

from all over the world over the course of the project more than hundred

of the project more than hundred

of the project more than hundred thousand people registered into the

thousand people registered into the

thousand people registered into the video game and only in November

video game and only in November

video game and only in November thirtieth nineteen million choices were

thirtieth nineteen million choices were

thirtieth nineteen million choices were made you know if I would have had to do

made you know if I would have had to do

made you know if I would have had to do all those choices myself it would have

all those choices myself it would have

all those choices myself it would have cost me eight hours a day five days a

cost me eight hours a day five days a

cost me eight hours a day five days a week four years you know so we needed a

week four years you know so we needed a

week four years you know so we needed a lot of people to make this experiment

lot of people to make this experiment

lot of people to make this experiment possible

and what did we find actually a couple

and what did we find actually a couple of days ago we received one of the

of days ago we received one of the

of days ago we received one of the latest and emails from one of the groups

latest and emails from one of the groups

latest and emails from one of the groups with the result and putting everything

with the result and putting everything

with the result and putting everything together we can very confidently say

together we can very confidently say

together we can very confidently say that atoms are unpredictable but

that atoms are unpredictable but

that atoms are unpredictable but basically they can improvise or somehow

basically they can improvise or somehow

basically they can improvise or somehow that ball was right and that God looks

that ball was right and that God looks

that ball was right and that God looks to be playing dice but you know the most

to be playing dice but you know the most

to be playing dice but you know the most important thing about this experiment is

important thing about this experiment is

important thing about this experiment is not that we proved that atoms are

not that we proved that atoms are

not that we proved that atoms are unpredictable we somehow expected this

unpredictable we somehow expected this

unpredictable we somehow expected this the most important thing is that in

the most important thing is that in

the most important thing is that in order to prove something you always need

order to prove something you always need

order to prove something you always need to state your assumptions you cannot

to state your assumptions you cannot

to state your assumptions you cannot prove it in absolute terms and in our

prove it in absolute terms and in our

prove it in absolute terms and in our case the only thing that we have to

case the only thing that we have to

case the only thing that we have to trust is that we humans can make

trust is that we humans can make

trust is that we humans can make decisions so if we believe if you

decisions so if we believe if you

decisions so if we believe if you believe that we can make decisions then

believe that we can make decisions then

believe that we can make decisions then we are sure that atoms can improvise and

we are sure that atoms can improvise and

we are sure that atoms can improvise and I’d like to conclude by commenting on a

I’d like to conclude by commenting on a

I’d like to conclude by commenting on a couple of things the first one has to do

couple of things the first one has to do

couple of things the first one has to do with a question that a lot of people has

with a question that a lot of people has

with a question that a lot of people has been asking over the last couple of

been asking over the last couple of

been asking over the last couple of months and is okay but how can we use

months and is okay but how can we use

months and is okay but how can we use this Bell test in practice you know

this Bell test in practice you know

this Bell test in practice you know first of all Bell Theorem transform the

first of all Bell Theorem transform the

first of all Bell Theorem transform the way that we understand the world it has

way that we understand the world it has

way that we understand the world it has given us tools that were not there

given us tools that were not there

given us tools that were not there hundred years ago and it allow us to

hundred years ago and it allow us to

hundred years ago and it allow us to understand the universe in a much more

understand the universe in a much more

understand the universe in a much more deeper level on the one hand this is

deeper level on the one hand this is

deeper level on the one hand this is opening new research directions like

opening new research directions like

opening new research directions like quantum information theory and on the

quantum information theory and on the

quantum information theory and on the other hand it’s enabling exciting

other hand it’s enabling exciting

other hand it’s enabling exciting application like quantum cryptography

application like quantum cryptography

application like quantum cryptography what can we do with quantum cryptography

what can we do with quantum cryptography

what can we do with quantum cryptography well we can build communication systems

well we can build communication systems

well we can build communication systems that cannot be hacked then anyone can

that cannot be hacked then anyone can

that cannot be hacked then anyone can spy on them and in a society as ours

spy on them and in a society as ours

spy on them and in a society as ours that is built on top of information this

that is built on top of information this

that is built on top of information this is of crucial importance and the second

is of crucial importance and the second

is of crucial importance and the second comment goes back to what we were saying

comment goes back to what we were saying

comment goes back to what we were saying at the beginning we said that for

at the beginning we said that for

at the beginning we said that for thousands of years people believed that

thousands of years people believed that

thousands of years people believed that ourselves and matter were completely

ourselves and matter were completely

ourselves and matter were completely different things because somehow we

different things because somehow we

different things because somehow we could make decisions we could behave in

could make decisions we could behave in

could make decisions we could behave in unpredictable ways but matter had to

unpredictable ways but matter had to

unpredictable ways but matter had to follow the terminus the growth this is

follow the terminus the growth this is

follow the terminus the growth this is what we see in this case one but you

what we see in this case one but you

what we see in this case one but you know a lot of people also over the

know a lot of people also over the

know a lot of people also over the history has questioned our ability to

history has questioned our ability to

history has questioned our ability to make choice

make choice

make choice is our ability whether or not we have

is our ability whether or not we have

is our ability whether or not we have free will so basically there is another

free will so basically there is another

free will so basically there is another option in there in which neither

option in there in which neither

option in there in which neither ourselves nor people have the ability to

ourselves nor people have the ability to

ourselves nor people have the ability to make any unpredictable decision this is

make any unpredictable decision this is

make any unpredictable decision this is the second case and is what we

the second case and is what we

the second case and is what we understand as super determinism and

understand as super determinism and

understand as super determinism and basically it means that everything that

basically it means that everything that

basically it means that everything that happens in the universe everything that

happens in the universe everything that

happens in the universe everything that will happen in the universe was pretty

will happen in the universe was pretty

will happen in the universe was pretty established from the beginning of times

established from the beginning of times

established from the beginning of times and that not even ourselves make any

and that not even ourselves make any

and that not even ourselves make any decision of being here today that

decision of being here today that

decision of being here today that everything was written in the book of

everything was written in the book of

everything was written in the book of the universe this is these were the

the universe this is these were the

the universe this is these were the options that people had before quantum

options that people had before quantum

options that people had before quantum mechanics but then quantum mechanics

mechanics but then quantum mechanics

mechanics but then quantum mechanics open up new possibilities in which atoms

open up new possibilities in which atoms

open up new possibilities in which atoms could improvise and for instance this

could improvise and for instance this

could improvise and for instance this could be an option in which we cannot

could be an option in which we cannot

could be an option in which we cannot make any decision ourselves because we

make any decision ourselves because we

make any decision ourselves because we do not have free will but matter can do

do not have free will but matter can do

do not have free will but matter can do unpredictable stuff in there or this

unpredictable stuff in there or this

unpredictable stuff in there or this other option in which we have free will

other option in which we have free will

other option in which we have free will we can make decisions and atoms are

we can make decisions and atoms are

we can make decisions and atoms are unpredictable

unpredictable

unpredictable as a scientist I can not tell you that

as a scientist I can not tell you that

as a scientist I can not tell you that one is better than the other but what I

one is better than the other but what I

one is better than the other but what I can tell you is that what we proved with

can tell you is that what we proved with

can tell you is that what we proved with the big Bell test is that if we believe

the big Bell test is that if we believe

the big Bell test is that if we believe that we can make decisions then we are

that we can make decisions then we are

that we can make decisions then we are sure that atoms are unpredictable so

sure that atoms are unpredictable so

sure that atoms are unpredictable so basically is this fourth case or what is

basically is this fourth case or what is

basically is this fourth case or what is the same that case one which a lot of

the same that case one which a lot of

the same that case one which a lot of people used to believe for thousands of

people used to believe for thousands of

people used to believe for thousands of years is no longer a possibility because

years is no longer a possibility because

years is no longer a possibility because if we have the ability to make choices

if we have the ability to make choices

if we have the ability to make choices atoms are unpredictable and you know as

atoms are unpredictable and you know as

atoms are unpredictable and you know as a scientist I cannot tell you what to

a scientist I cannot tell you what to

a scientist I cannot tell you what to believe either because at the end of the

believe either because at the end of the

believe either because at the end of the day that’s your choice thank you very

day that’s your choice thank you very

day that’s your choice thank you very much

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