good afternoon and nights
what a paradox I am thinking of the
red circle this one they told me that I should
insert me and not from the a river crossing
to jump it to pass it
I guess it will not be very dangerous
I will be out of light off camera
the paradox is that if I were a migrant
cross a border jump a wall or
will go through an order where it should not
I would be in danger
today migrate kill but let me know what
explain
it’s a little more complex than all this
I will raise them because it is a problem
that is a problem of migration
I will raise them because we have
problematized the migrations because
we have turned into problems to the
migrants
it is surprising at first to think that it is
a problem something that we have been doing
for decades not for centuries but
united to the own history of the species
we have always always looked we have never
stopped migrating so it’s surprising that
we have converted it rather
recently in a problem
let me tell you about some data
fundamentals or if you want to basically
some anecdotes about migrations
so that they begin to understand the
complexity of the phenomenon and let’s see why
it is a problem that is a problem
there are not so many people that migue
ultimately more than 3% 240
millions
the last year for which we have data
official more than 7,000 million is the
population of the world to be made
an idea tell me that in this room and
about 400 people
the migrants that correspond to this
room would be in the middle of the first
row of truth are a threat half
from the first row 12 the people who
would correspond as migrants to this
room are not so many and instead they are a
problem
let’s go some specific places africa
for example we think that africa is one
of the places that most exports population
human being that more migrations exist and
exist but not in the sense that we
we imagine 14 percent of the
migrants of the world are of origin
African but they do not go to other places that
Africa is not the majority of the
Africans 75 percent
three of every four African migrants
migrate to another country in africa
if we compare it with migrants in
europe is surprising 25 percent
of the migrants that are in Africa are
of European origin
you know how many African migrants there are in
Europe barely reach 2 percent
in the end the paradoxes are very striking
when we think about the data more or less
accurate about migrations, let’s go to
Chinese china has an important
Nigerian migration
surprise also china has a
important emigration towards the east
next
but every year in china my great more than
150 million people calculate 150
millions of people are like something else
three times the population that there is in
Spain
but no no they are not migrants who leave
of china are internal migrants are
internal migrations
we think that migrations more
important are the migrations towards
other countries and internal migrations
case of china is very paradigmatic are
very important
let’s not forget that china is like 18 19
times the Iberian Peninsula and also a
strong state offers centralist no
makes things easier except recently
for internal migrants can
get to have loss of rights
end the biggest migrations go towards
united states towards russia of bangladesh
and the biggest immigrants leave
greater migration flows leave the
india also from russia also from china
in short the united kingdom is a place that
attracts a lot of people and let’s say it like that in
the logical migrant jargon also expels
to many people
are data that allow me to tell you what
complex that is to understand the phenomenon of
the migrations
that complexity brings together that which
I said when starting to migrate kills I can not
obviating I can not forget
although it’s not exactly what kills
migrate what kills is the treatment that
we make migration management
we make migrations a
colleague is more daring much more
daring than me and does not talk about deaths
speaks of murders she who is now
being specially persecuted
I mean the research activist
Elena Mallet who knows very well the
reality of borders speaks to us with
that tragic expression in the year 2016
8,000 more than 8,000 people or
disappeared or lost their lives
they died she would say again they were
murdered for trying to look at 60 by
hundred of those deaths occurred in
the Mediterranean
someone can think that it is a consolation
know that in the following year 2017 will be
reduced deaths and disappearances
for me it is not a consolation in the
Mediterranean, 3,100 people lost their
life died trying to reach the
golden european
are data that allow us to place the
complexity of migrations
someone could say with this that good
already but exactly why do you think that
it’s a problem because it says it’s a
problem
who really says it’s a problem
they doubt it
or is it that they do not listen to the speeches
xenophobic and racist of the principal
ruler of the united states of
North America two big arguments
used around the treatment of
immigration the construction of a wall
as if it did not exist already assured there is
a town built between mexico and
U.S
one physical and the other natural the desert and
the second big argument the
deportations as if they were novel
the deportations
they started with president clinton
they reached their maximum expression with the
President Obama
syfy all the rulers who manage
the migration turning it into a
danger but no doubt that it is a
problem is that they do not come listening in
the last practically year and a half or
two years
the xenophobic discourses
many European rulers who do not
they want to accept the rules that we have
given to coexist the acceptance of
asylum and the shelter has been called
humanitarian crisis
no it’s not a humanitarian crisis it ‘s a
crisis of values of our
rulers of our states
it is a crisis of the very notion of
Europe that is not willing to allow
the coexistence as we had
decided to organize it in order to
I insist that it is a problem that is a
problem there is that they think
there are those who think forgiveness that it is
of a series of prejudices options
stereotyped in humans we have in
around grant as long as he’s a stranger
they identify very clearly those
prejudiced motions here
also mention the great work that
come doing some organizations
non- governmental organizations to eliminate or
less reduce the prejudices those
great programs that have emerged in the
last times that are named under the
stop sign rumors
they have worked hard to get
that the ideas we have are reduced
about migrations and about
migrants but we add the three or
four lines we say that migrants
they spend a lot on health exhaust our
resources in social services
deteriorate our educational systems
they are also very violent
that’s why the violence against
women and they also come to steal
that’s why prisons are full they say
of foreign resources
let’s start with the health they go to the doctor or
family doctor generalist much less
that national populations
20% less chronic diseases is
possible that they have diagnosed them
five times less in expenses
Pharmacists do not seem to exhaust
the resources of our health and the
social services are not they who
more come eight out of ten users
social services
in the case of Spain they have nationality
Spanish one is foreign and the other
foreign community
nor does it seem that here they are the
source of the problem in education we say
they say the people that exhaust the aids
good is easy to dismantle the argument
the aid in the education system is
they always grant according to resources
economically, they may have many
helps but not because they are not immigrants
due to lack of financial resources is
a rule that we set ourselves
it is also said that they deteriorate the
educational system because the
levels are said to be less successful
but we already know that the source of success
in school terms in the system
educational has to do with resources
socioeconomic and with the levels
educational of parents of mothers
immigration again says nothing
on this issue are violent or
women and that’s why the
violence against women 70 per
hundred of the reports of violence of
gender are Spanish women
someone will say good clear is that they do not
can not even report but if not
come to report statistics are the
that allows us to say that they are more
violent are more violent
in short the term prisoner population already
with this argument they are not either
majority in the resource population
eight out of ten inmates have
Spanish nationality and two out of ten
they have a foreign nationality
20 percent here is true
someone could be subtle and say amira
the foreign population in Spain
represent 10 percent the
Inmate population in Spain
foreign nationality represents the
20% if more time in prisons
care of foreign prisoners who
There are in prisons
one in three were arrested without
reside in Spain before residing in
Spain which places us in a
much smaller percentage and we
makes us face again the
doubt if there really are more
foreign resources that the inmates
Spanish people
Finally, if they rob us, they are more
violent but to deteriorate the system
education if resources are not spent
social services if they do not deplete
our healing because they are seen as
a problem basically because they are
strangers are foreigners do not miss out on
seen this notion of strange and
foreigner who has the same root
latina happening later in our case by
French is someone unwanted is
who represents everything that does not
we want to be us is the austerity
as we say in academic jargon is the
otherness how do we keep saying in the
academic jargon is everything that
It represents
what we do not want to be today for a lot
people an immigrant is neither more nor
less than a foreigner
poor and also poor foreigner who
will take a long punishment now
now I will tell you a personal anecdote
that will see how long the punishment of
be an immigrant but before
let me tell you that rejection of
the strange thing is not a capricious rejection
xenophobe of each one of us is not
a rejection of the foreign fruit of a
forgiveness fruit of a bad dream is a
Organized rejection is a rejection
constituted article 13 of our
constitution of the constitution of
Kingdom of Spain says that foreigners
foreign people will have in
Spain a law that regulates your rights and
liberties is fine but there remains one
previous question because they need a law
ours are not useful because a law
special for them
basically because they are not what it is that
they are not Spanish citizens but this
Care is not something that has existed
lifetime
this way of treating otherness and the
alterity the strangeness is directly
linked to the nations that have
decided to organize their lives under the
model of today known by states
it is the states that organize these
ways to build the difference up
the point of taking us to what some
jurists call xenophobia
institutional, a xenophobia that
term lengthens indefinitely and will
very fast
I do not forget the anecdote I was born in
the north in bilbao
little time I was there I do not exercise
Basque
I grew up in Madrid
I was raised by my parents, my father
and my mother also my brothers and the
people who surrounded me at 23 years old
I went to live in Granada for a job that
I had just finished the the
university studies has been living
33 years class
I have three children and two daughters and a son
we live in a small town next to
grenade that is called the rain the
article rain people’s names
of the zubia is playful when
pronounced because if they pronounce it my
children he says himself soviets his cousins of
madrid and the north always tell him what
same say where are you from where from
you are they say we are soviet
in short jokes aside they were schooled a
public school where two friends were going
his two brothers one was called
mohamed and the other fatima and the other
Fatima
I claim that at a given moment
provocatively that my children were
second generation of Basques and now
Basque for my children
therefore second generation of Basques
they never affected me they did not want to admit
that my children were second generation of
Basques
I honestly did not worry
I was interested in the one that mohamed
and Fatima having been born in the same
hospital that my children
going to the same school as my children
they were second generation of Moroccans
for them will never go away your
Immigrant status is a problem
that is a problem
I tell them more as long as it’s a problem
we have a very serious problem
but do not worry I thought that
higher mills have fallen many
thank you
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