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Advance surgical training with virtual reality | Justin Barad | TEDxBerkeley


see one do one teach one this

see one do one teach one this expressions been the foundation of

expressions been the foundation of

expressions been the foundation of surgical training for over a century but

surgical training for over a century but

surgical training for over a century but unfortunately it’s no longer working our

unfortunately it’s no longer working our

unfortunately it’s no longer working our system of training is an apprenticeship

system of training is an apprenticeship

system of training is an apprenticeship method you spend your five to nine years

method you spend your five to nine years

method you spend your five to nine years post medical schools following other

post medical schools following other

post medical schools following other experienced surgeons around observing

experienced surgeons around observing

experienced surgeons around observing them learning to do what they do this

them learning to do what they do this

them learning to do what they do this worked for a time especially when the

worked for a time especially when the

worked for a time especially when the number of procedures we needed to learn

number of procedures we needed to learn

number of procedures we needed to learn was very small residents had a lot of

was very small residents had a lot of

was very small residents had a lot of hands-on time with patients and they had

hands-on time with patients and they had

hands-on time with patients and they had a significant amount of autonomy today

a significant amount of autonomy today

a significant amount of autonomy today the world has changed

the world has changed

the world has changed residents have an enormous number of

residents have an enormous number of

residents have an enormous number of procedures they need to learn and those

procedures they need to learn and those

procedures they need to learn and those procedures are now more complicated

procedures are now more complicated

procedures are now more complicated thanks to new technologies like robotics

thanks to new technologies like robotics

thanks to new technologies like robotics 3d printing and navigation to give you

3d printing and navigation to give you

3d printing and navigation to give you an example one study questioned the

an example one study questioned the

an example one study questioned the leaders of surgery across the country

leaders of surgery across the country

leaders of surgery across the country and asked them what are the critical

and asked them what are the critical

and asked them what are the critical procedures that residents need to learn

procedures that residents need to learn

procedures that residents need to learn they identified 171 surgeries that

they identified 171 surgeries that

they identified 171 surgeries that residents should know how to do by the

residents should know how to do by the

residents should know how to do by the time they leave residency and go into

time they leave residency and go into

time they leave residency and go into independent practice but when they

independent practice but when they

independent practice but when they actually looked at the surgeries that

actually looked at the surgeries that

actually looked at the surgeries that those residents did by the time that

those residents did by the time that

those residents did by the time that they graduated they found that many of

they graduated they found that many of

they graduated they found that many of the procedures they had done once twice

the procedures they had done once twice

the procedures they had done once twice or 0 times

or 0 times

or 0 times additionally the time residents have to

additionally the time residents have to

additionally the time residents have to operate is becoming less work hour

operate is becoming less work hour

operate is becoming less work hour restrictions have limited residents to

restrictions have limited residents to

restrictions have limited residents to only 80 hours of work a week all right

only 80 hours of work a week all right

only 80 hours of work a week all right they’re so lazy but amazingly they’ve

they’re so lazy but amazingly they’ve

they’re so lazy but amazingly they’ve lost a year of training time that they

lost a year of training time that they

lost a year of training time that they previously had workflow changes like

previously had workflow changes like

previously had workflow changes like electronic medical record systems have

electronic medical record systems have

electronic medical record systems have residents in front of a computer for

residents in front of a computer for

residents in front of a computer for almost 50 percent of their time instead

almost 50 percent of their time instead

almost 50 percent of their time instead of in front of a patient finally culture

of in front of a patient finally culture

of in front of a patient finally culture is changing people are more aware of

is changing people are more aware of

is changing people are more aware of what residents do and don’t want them

what residents do and don’t want them

what residents do and don’t want them touching them so residents have less

touching them so residents have less

touching them so residents have less autonomy and less hands-on time

autonomy and less hands-on time

autonomy and less hands-on time sometimes there’s a situation where you

sometimes there’s a situation where you

sometimes there’s a situation where you see something you’ve never seen before

see something you’ve never seen before

see something you’ve never seen before so it’s not even see one do one it’s

so it’s not even see one do one it’s

so it’s not even see one do one it’s just do one like this time where we

just do one like this time where we

just do one like this time where we received a call from the zoo and there

received a call from the zoo and there

received a call from the zoo and there was a gorilla that was injured and

was a gorilla that was injured and

was a gorilla that was injured and needed surgery now you may be wondering

needed surgery now you may be wondering

needed surgery now you may be wondering why was the zoo calling a team of very

why was the zoo calling a team of very

why was the zoo calling a team of very human surgeons who take care of people

human surgeons who take care of people

human surgeons who take care of people to operate on the gorilla and that’s a

to operate on the gorilla and that’s a

to operate on the gorilla and that’s a story for another time but we jumped to

story for another time but we jumped to

story for another time but we jumped to answer the call now the zoo couldn’t

answer the call now the zoo couldn’t

answer the call now the zoo couldn’t tell us what was wrong with the gorillas

tell us what was wrong with the gorillas

tell us what was wrong with the gorillas because they had to tranquilize it take

because they had to tranquilize it take

because they had to tranquilize it take it to x-ray and then immediately to the

it to x-ray and then immediately to the

it to x-ray and then immediately to the operating room so we were walking into

operating room so we were walking into

operating room so we were walking into the operating room in the zoo with no

the operating room in the zoo with no

the operating room in the zoo with no clue what to expect amazingly the

clue what to expect amazingly the

clue what to expect amazingly the gorillas did great it was a really

gorillas did great it was a really

gorillas did great it was a really wonderful experience but I had to think

wonderful experience but I had to think

wonderful experience but I had to think there had to be a better way to practice

there had to be a better way to practice

there had to be a better way to practice just in time for those cases when a

just in time for those cases when a

just in time for those cases when a gorilla comes in through the door so how

gorilla comes in through the door so how

gorilla comes in through the door so how are we doing today

are we doing today

are we doing today a study from brian george answered that

a study from brian george answered that

a study from brian george answered that question they looked at residents

question they looked at residents

question they looked at residents ability to practice independently

ability to practice independently

ability to practice independently overall five years of their training the

overall five years of their training the

overall five years of their training the results may shock you at the end of

results may shock you at the end of

results may shock you at the end of their training thirty point seven

their training thirty point seven

their training thirty point seven percent of residents were still unable

percent of residents were still unable

percent of residents were still unable to operate independently I’ve seen the

to operate independently I’ve seen the

to operate independently I’ve seen the surgical training gap firsthand during

surgical training gap firsthand during

surgical training gap firsthand during my own surgical residency believe it or

my own surgical residency believe it or

my own surgical residency believe it or not I often was asked to google the

not I often was asked to google the

not I often was asked to google the surgery we were doing to find the

surgery we were doing to find the

surgery we were doing to find the instruction manual

the blistering pace of new technology

the blistering pace of new technology and procedures aren’t just affecting

and procedures aren’t just affecting

and procedures aren’t just affecting residents anymore they’re affecting

residents anymore they’re affecting

residents anymore they’re affecting surgeons out in practice it is not

surgeons out in practice it is not

surgeons out in practice it is not uncommon to see a site like this in the

uncommon to see a site like this in the

uncommon to see a site like this in the operating room where surgeons are

operating room where surgeons are

operating room where surgeons are operating on a patient with instructions

operating on a patient with instructions

operating on a patient with instructions folded out on them as they work at the

folded out on them as they work at the

folded out on them as they work at the conclusion of his paper Brian Jordan

conclusion of his paper Brian Jordan

conclusion of his paper Brian Jordan that the residency system that we know

that the residency system that we know

that the residency system that we know it today no longer works to make matters

it today no longer works to make matters

it today no longer works to make matters worse sorry to be so negative

worse sorry to be so negative

worse sorry to be so negative who gets better is that we have an aging

who gets better is that we have an aging

who gets better is that we have an aging population and they’re gonna need more

population and they’re gonna need more

population and they’re gonna need more and more surgery we have a surgeon

and more surgery we have a surgeon

and more surgery we have a surgeon shortage coming and we’re gonna be short

shortage coming and we’re gonna be short

shortage coming and we’re gonna be short 50,000 surgeons in just a few decades so

50,000 surgeons in just a few decades so

50,000 surgeons in just a few decades so what do we do what if I told you there

what do we do what if I told you there

what do we do what if I told you there was a technology that allows you to

was a technology that allows you to

was a technology that allows you to practice a procedure anytime and

practice a procedure anytime and

practice a procedure anytime and anywhere in a safe repeatable way well

anywhere in a safe repeatable way well

anywhere in a safe repeatable way well there is that technology is virtual

there is that technology is virtual

there is that technology is virtual reality or VR let’s take a look

reality or VR let’s take a look

reality or VR let’s take a look [Music]

now remember VR did not start as a toy

now remember VR did not start as a toy it started as a serious scientific tool

it started as a serious scientific tool

it started as a serious scientific tool for NASA today no aircraft pilot can

for NASA today no aircraft pilot can

for NASA today no aircraft pilot can operate a commercial jet without first

operate a commercial jet without first

operate a commercial jet without first learning their skills in a simulator and

learning their skills in a simulator and

learning their skills in a simulator and passing a battery of tests in aviation

passing a battery of tests in aviation

passing a battery of tests in aviation when it’s life or death simulators are

when it’s life or death simulators are

when it’s life or death simulators are not tomorrow’s luxury they are today’s

not tomorrow’s luxury they are today’s

not tomorrow’s luxury they are today’s necessity so why should it be any

necessity so why should it be any

necessity so why should it be any different in the medical world in a

different in the medical world in a

different in the medical world in a future with VR simulation we can bridge

future with VR simulation we can bridge

future with VR simulation we can bridge the training gap so our graduating

the training gap so our graduating

the training gap so our graduating residents are ready to practice

residents are ready to practice

residents are ready to practice independently in a future with VR

independently in a future with VR

independently in a future with VR simulation we could train more surgeons

simulation we could train more surgeons

simulation we could train more surgeons faster so we can tackle the oncoming

faster so we can tackle the oncoming

faster so we can tackle the oncoming surgeon shortage in a future with VR

surgeon shortage in a future with VR

surgeon shortage in a future with VR simulation surgeons would only do

simulation surgeons would only do

simulation surgeons would only do procedures that it was safe for them to

procedures that it was safe for them to

procedures that it was safe for them to do so they wouldn’t be googling the

do so they wouldn’t be googling the

do so they wouldn’t be googling the operation during the procedure we’ve

operation during the procedure we’ve

operation during the procedure we’ve already made big steps in this brave new

already made big steps in this brave new

already made big steps in this brave new reality in a pilot study we took a group

reality in a pilot study we took a group

reality in a pilot study we took a group of students and train them in VR we then

of students and train them in VR we then

of students and train them in VR we then took them and tested them on the real

took them and tested them on the real

took them and tested them on the real surgical procedure and we were surprised

surgical procedure and we were surprised

surgical procedure and we were surprised with the results the VR trained group

with the results the VR trained group

with the results the VR trained group nearly doubled the surgical performance

nearly doubled the surgical performance

nearly doubled the surgical performance scores of non VR trained individuals VR

scores of non VR trained individuals VR

scores of non VR trained individuals VR surgical training is scalable affordable

surgical training is scalable affordable

surgical training is scalable affordable and most importantly it works with this

and most importantly it works with this

and most importantly it works with this technology the next generation of

technology the next generation of

technology the next generation of surgeons will be ready for whatever

surgeons will be ready for whatever

surgeons will be ready for whatever comes through the door

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