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my name is Alan Castel I’m a cognitive

my name is Alan Castel I’m a cognitive psychologist at UCLA and today I’d like

psychologist at UCLA and today I’d like

psychologist at UCLA and today I’d like to tell you three things I’d like to

to tell you three things I’d like to

to tell you three things I’d like to show you how our mind tries to make

show you how our mind tries to make

show you how our mind tries to make sense of the world but sometimes plays

sense of the world but sometimes plays

sense of the world but sometimes plays tricks on us and fills in the gaps I’d

tricks on us and fills in the gaps I’d

tricks on us and fills in the gaps I’d also like to discuss how we become

also like to discuss how we become

also like to discuss how we become selective and need to become selective

selective and need to become selective

selective and need to become selective and then despite experiencing more

and then despite experiencing more

and then despite experiencing more memory challenges as we get older

memory challenges as we get older

memory challenges as we get older perhaps paradoxically

perhaps paradoxically

perhaps paradoxically we become more selective and better at

we become more selective and better at

we become more selective and better at focusing on what’s important I’d like to

focusing on what’s important I’d like to

focusing on what’s important I’d like to show you some interesting demonstrations

show you some interesting demonstrations

show you some interesting demonstrations that illustrate how our mind sometimes

that illustrate how our mind sometimes

that illustrate how our mind sometimes plays tricks on us what I’d like you to

plays tricks on us what I’d like you to

plays tricks on us what I’d like you to do is just to read each phrase in each

do is just to read each phrase in each

do is just to read each phrase in each triangle just read it out loud go ahead

so most of you read these as Paris in

so most of you read these as Paris in the spring once in a lifetime and bird

the spring once in a lifetime and bird

the spring once in a lifetime and bird in the hand but if you slow down and

in the hand but if you slow down and

in the hand but if you slow down and look more closely each phrase says Paris

look more closely each phrase says Paris

look more closely each phrase says Paris in the spring once in a lifetime bird in

in the spring once in a lifetime bird in

in the spring once in a lifetime bird in the hand so you made a mistake but the

the hand so you made a mistake but the

the hand so you made a mistake but the mistake made sense of these sentences

mistake made sense of these sentences

mistake made sense of these sentences and so this is our mind playing tricks

and so this is our mind playing tricks

and so this is our mind playing tricks on us we fill in the gaps so that we can

on us we fill in the gaps so that we can

on us we fill in the gaps so that we can make sense of our world here’s another

make sense of our world here’s another

make sense of our world here’s another illustration just quickly read this to

illustration just quickly read this to

illustration just quickly read this to yourself say it out loud so most of you

yourself say it out loud so most of you

yourself say it out loud so most of you say the cat but then again if you look

say the cat but then again if you look

say the cat but then again if you look more closely the second letter is

more closely the second letter is

more closely the second letter is identical in each word but again our

identical in each word but again our

identical in each word but again our mind interprets these letters to make

mind interprets these letters to make

mind interprets these letters to make sense of what we think they should say

sense of what we think they should say

sense of what we think they should say and the same thing happens with memory

and the same thing happens with memory

and the same thing happens with memory just because we’ve seen something many

just because we’ve seen something many

just because we’ve seen something many times doesn’t necessarily mean we’ll

times doesn’t necessarily mean we’ll

times doesn’t necessarily mean we’ll remember it so how many of you know the

remember it so how many of you know the

remember it so how many of you know the Apple logo pretty much everyone in this

Apple logo pretty much everyone in this

Apple logo pretty much everyone in this room you probably have it right in front

room you probably have it right in front

room you probably have it right in front of you on your phone now I want you to

of you on your phone now I want you to

of you on your phone now I want you to think about the Apple logo and don’t

think about the Apple logo and don’t

think about the Apple logo and don’t look at your phone which way is the byte

look at your phone which way is the byte

look at your phone which way is the byte is it pointing to the left or is it

is it pointing to the left or is it

is it pointing to the left or is it pointing to the right how about this

pointing to the right how about this

pointing to the right how about this stem or the leaf you’re pointing to the

stem or the leaf you’re pointing to the

stem or the leaf you’re pointing to the left or pointing to the right so when I

left or pointing to the right so when I

left or pointing to the right so when I tried to do this I then drew the Apple

tried to do this I then drew the Apple

tried to do this I then drew the Apple logo from memory and I’ll show you what

logo from memory and I’ll show you what

logo from memory and I’ll show you what I came up with you can laugh at my

I came up with you can laugh at my

I came up with you can laugh at my mistake and there’s plenty of them here

mistake and there’s plenty of them here

mistake and there’s plenty of them here but this is what I thought the Apple

but this is what I thought the Apple

but this is what I thought the Apple logo kind of looked like and then I

logo kind of looked like and then I

logo kind of looked like and then I thought well maybe my memory is not so

thought well maybe my memory is not so

thought well maybe my memory is not so good so I’ll ask my daughter my

good so I’ll ask my daughter my

good so I’ll ask my daughter my seven-year-old daughter she’s a very

seven-year-old daughter she’s a very

seven-year-old daughter she’s a very good memory I asked her do you know the

good memory I asked her do you know the

good memory I asked her do you know the Apple logo says of course I do

Apple logo says of course I do

Apple logo says of course I do and so this is what she drew okay now I

and so this is what she drew okay now I

and so this is what she drew okay now I had the bite on the left she had the

had the bite on the left she had the

had the bite on the left she had the bite on the right so we had a little

bite on the right so we had a little

bite on the right so we had a little contest he was right we both had teeth

contest he was right we both had teeth

contest he was right we both had teeth marks we have this genetic family

marks we have this genetic family

marks we have this genetic family history of putting teeth marks in the

history of putting teeth marks in the

history of putting teeth marks in the Apple logo now I’ll give you a

Apple logo now I’ll give you a

Apple logo now I’ll give you a multiple-choice test so this should make

multiple-choice test so this should make

multiple-choice test so this should make it easier right No so how many of you

it easier right No so how many of you

it easier right No so how many of you can identify the Apple in this lineup

can identify the Apple in this lineup

can identify the Apple in this lineup I hear several different love letters

I hear several different love letters

I hear several different love letters from the alphabet when we ask people

from the alphabet when we ask people

from the alphabet when we ask people UCLA undergraduates fewer than 50% of

UCLA undergraduates fewer than 50% of

UCLA undergraduates fewer than 50% of people could correctly identify the

people could correctly identify the

people could correctly identify the correct Apple logo so simply because

correct Apple logo so simply because

correct Apple logo so simply because we’ve seen something many times doesn’t

we’ve seen something many times doesn’t

we’ve seen something many times doesn’t necessarily mean we remember it but

necessarily mean we remember it but

necessarily mean we remember it but perhaps there’s good reason we don’t

perhaps there’s good reason we don’t

perhaps there’s good reason we don’t want to burden our memory with this

want to burden our memory with this

want to burden our memory with this information we don’t need to remember

information we don’t need to remember

information we don’t need to remember what the Apple logo looks like how about

what the Apple logo looks like how about

what the Apple logo looks like how about things that could potentially save our

things that could potentially save our

things that could potentially save our lives so how many of you know where the

lives so how many of you know where the

lives so how many of you know where the nearest fire extinguisher is perhaps at

nearest fire extinguisher is perhaps at

nearest fire extinguisher is perhaps at your workplace or at your home maybe

your workplace or at your home maybe

your workplace or at your home maybe you’ve seen it it’s bright red I was

you’ve seen it it’s bright red I was

you’ve seen it it’s bright red I was taking a safety training course in my

taking a safety training course in my

taking a safety training course in my office building at UCLA we’re in the

office building at UCLA we’re in the

office building at UCLA we’re in the basement and we were asked the same

basement and we were asked the same

basement and we were asked the same question and my colleague and I were

question and my colleague and I were

question and my colleague and I were kind of puzzled we knew it we’d seen it

kind of puzzled we knew it we’d seen it

kind of puzzled we knew it we’d seen it many times we couldn’t quite remember

many times we couldn’t quite remember

many times we couldn’t quite remember exactly where it was and so this is a

exactly where it was and so this is a

exactly where it was and so this is a picture of my colleague he went back to

picture of my colleague he went back to

picture of my colleague he went back to his office and decided to look for the

his office and decided to look for the

his office and decided to look for the fire extinguisher and this is what he

fire extinguisher and this is what he

fire extinguisher and this is what he saw when he went back to his office how

saw when he went back to his office how

saw when he went back to his office how many of you see the fire extinguisher

many of you see the fire extinguisher

many of you see the fire extinguisher this is what there this is where it

this is what there this is where it

this is what there this is where it actually was he’d had this office for

actually was he’d had this office for

actually was he’d had this office for over 25 years and just stopped noticing

over 25 years and just stopped noticing

over 25 years and just stopped noticing it so this is the difference between

it so this is the difference between

it so this is the difference between seeing something and noticing it and

seeing something and noticing it and

seeing something and noticing it and sometimes

sometimes

sometimes the more experience we have the worse we

the more experience we have the worse we

the more experience we have the worse we are at remembering things like this and

are at remembering things like this and

are at remembering things like this and so we followed up on this we actually

so we followed up on this we actually

so we followed up on this we actually went to other people’s offices just to

went to other people’s offices just to

went to other people’s offices just to see maybe we were just strange and asked

see maybe we were just strange and asked

see maybe we were just strange and asked them if they knew where the nearest fire

them if they knew where the nearest fire

them if they knew where the nearest fire extinguisher was most people were kind

extinguisher was most people were kind

extinguisher was most people were kind of hesitant or puzzled and then instead

of hesitant or puzzled and then instead

of hesitant or puzzled and then instead of telling them where it was we asked

of telling them where it was we asked

of telling them where it was we asked them to go and find it and so they’d to

them to go and find it and so they’d to

them to go and find it and so they’d to get up out of their chair walk down the

get up out of their chair walk down the

get up out of their chair walk down the hall and point it out and oftentimes

hall and point it out and oftentimes

hall and point it out and oftentimes they’d missed the one that was right

they’d missed the one that was right

they’d missed the one that was right next to their office and so this failure

next to their office and so this failure

next to their office and so this failure to find something this failed retrieval

to find something this failed retrieval

to find something this failed retrieval then informs memory it reminds us of

then informs memory it reminds us of

then informs memory it reminds us of what we don’t know and then we followed

what we don’t know and then we followed

what we don’t know and then we followed up with these same individuals three

up with these same individuals three

up with these same individuals three months later we went back to their

months later we went back to their

months later we went back to their office and asked them where the nearest

office and asked them where the nearest

office and asked them where the nearest fire extinguisher was everybody knew

fire extinguisher was everybody knew

fire extinguisher was everybody knew because they failed the first time and

because they failed the first time and

because they failed the first time and they learned and this sort of learning

they learned and this sort of learning

they learned and this sort of learning becomes incredibly important failure can

becomes incredibly important failure can

becomes incredibly important failure can be a very potent and powerful learning

be a very potent and powerful learning

be a very potent and powerful learning event we often remember our failures yet

event we often remember our failures yet

event we often remember our failures yet we sometimes seek to avoid failure often

we sometimes seek to avoid failure often

we sometimes seek to avoid failure often my daughter’s will ask me to tell them

my daughter’s will ask me to tell them

my daughter’s will ask me to tell them stories at night and their favorite

stories at night and their favorite

stories at night and their favorite theme are mistakes I made when I was

theme are mistakes I made when I was

theme are mistakes I made when I was little they want to hear about my

little they want to hear about my

little they want to hear about my failures probably because they want to

failures probably because they want to

failures probably because they want to know what we shouldn’t do but they also

know what we shouldn’t do but they also

know what we shouldn’t do but they also want to know that sometimes it’s okay to

want to know that sometimes it’s okay to

want to know that sometimes it’s okay to make mistakes we all grow up and so

make mistakes we all grow up and so

make mistakes we all grow up and so their favorite story was when I was in

their favorite story was when I was in

their favorite story was when I was in the Wizard of Oz I was in grade four and

the Wizard of Oz I was in grade four and

the Wizard of Oz I was in grade four and I had a very important line in the play

I had a very important line in the play

I had a very important line in the play I was Uncle Henry you don’t remember

I was Uncle Henry you don’t remember

I was Uncle Henry you don’t remember Uncle Henry it’s because he only had one

Uncle Henry it’s because he only had one

Uncle Henry it’s because he only had one line in the play

line in the play

line in the play so I rehearse my line again and again

so I rehearse my line again and again

so I rehearse my line again and again and I really just need to say one line

and I really just need to say one line

and I really just need to say one line listen everyone there’s a cyclone on the

listen everyone there’s a cyclone on the

listen everyone there’s a cyclone on the way hurry and get into the cellar I

way hurry and get into the cellar I

way hurry and get into the cellar I thought it’s a very important line and

thought it’s a very important line and

thought it’s a very important line and so on opening night I burst on the stage

so on opening night I burst on the stage

so on opening night I burst on the stage and I said listen everyone there’s a

and I said listen everyone there’s a

and I said listen everyone there’s a cellar on the way hurry and get into the

cellar on the way hurry and get into the

cellar on the way hurry and get into the cyclone I’d memorize this line I knew

cyclone I’d memorize this line I knew

cyclone I’d memorize this line I knew this line and yet at the one time I had

this line and yet at the one time I had

this line and yet at the one time I had to deliver it I screwed up and my

to deliver it I screwed up and my

to deliver it I screwed up and my daughter’s love that story of course my

daughter’s love that story of course my

daughter’s love that story of course my son likes to hear stories more about how

son likes to hear stories more about how

son likes to hear stories more about how I break bones when I fall so he’s

I break bones when I fall so he’s

I break bones when I fall so he’s interested in other kinds of mistakes

interested in other kinds of mistakes

interested in other kinds of mistakes but it shows that children want to learn

but it shows that children want to learn

but it shows that children want to learn from mistakes and they want to know that

from mistakes and they want to know that

from mistakes and they want to know that it’s okay to make mistakes and

it’s okay to make mistakes and

it’s okay to make mistakes and oftentimes we experience anxiety when

oftentimes we experience anxiety when

oftentimes we experience anxiety when we’re gonna give a presentation when

we’re gonna give a presentation when

we’re gonna give a presentation when we’re gonna give it a test and this

we’re gonna give it a test and this

we’re gonna give it a test and this anxiety can influence how we perform we

anxiety can influence how we perform we

anxiety can influence how we perform we will often perform to expectations so

will often perform to expectations so

will often perform to expectations so when I talk about memory and Ageing and

when I talk about memory and Ageing and

when I talk about memory and Ageing and I talk to people who are over fifty

I talk to people who are over fifty

I talk to people who are over fifty sixty seventy and tell them we’re gonna

sixty seventy and tell them we’re gonna

sixty seventy and tell them we’re gonna give you a memory test that results in a

give you a memory test that results in a

give you a memory test that results in a certain amount of anxiety and that

certain amount of anxiety and that

certain amount of anxiety and that anxiety can lead to stereotype threat we

anxiety can lead to stereotype threat we

anxiety can lead to stereotype threat we perform as we think we should perform

perform as we think we should perform

perform as we think we should perform research has shown that if you take this

research has shown that if you take this

research has shown that if you take this same memory test and simply call it a

same memory test and simply call it a

same memory test and simply call it a wisdom test and then administer the same

wisdom test and then administer the same

wisdom test and then administer the same test older adults do better so just

test older adults do better so just

test older adults do better so just labeling the test in a different manner

labeling the test in a different manner

labeling the test in a different manner can empower people to do better and

can empower people to do better and

can empower people to do better and that’s why I think psychology is

that’s why I think psychology is

that’s why I think psychology is incredibly important now how many of you

incredibly important now how many of you

incredibly important now how many of you on the topic of memory and aging have

on the topic of memory and aging have

on the topic of memory and aging have had trouble remembering names anyone you

had trouble remembering names anyone you

had trouble remembering names anyone you know you know someone’s name or you’re

know you know someone’s name or you’re

know you know someone’s name or you’re trying to introduce them and then that

trying to introduce them and then that

trying to introduce them and then that name just slips from memory or you just

name just slips from memory or you just

name just slips from memory or you just heard that name and you can’t recall it

heard that name and you can’t recall it

heard that name and you can’t recall it and there’s good reasons why we actually

and there’s good reasons why we actually

and there’s good reasons why we actually don’t remember names

don’t remember names

don’t remember names maybe a hundred years ago mr. Barbour

maybe a hundred years ago mr. Barbour

maybe a hundred years ago mr. Barbour was actually a barber but today names

was actually a barber but today names

was actually a barber but today names are somewhat arbitrary and so I’m gonna

are somewhat arbitrary and so I’m gonna

are somewhat arbitrary and so I’m gonna give you some tricks to remember my name

give you some tricks to remember my name

give you some tricks to remember my name my name is Alan Castel and it rhymes

my name is Alan Castel and it rhymes

my name is Alan Castel and it rhymes with past Oh in fact my grandfather was

with past Oh in fact my grandfather was

with past Oh in fact my grandfather was a painter who used pastels so now you

a painter who used pastels so now you

a painter who used pastels so now you can incorporate my name with some

can incorporate my name with some

can incorporate my name with some thing you know already the concept of a

thing you know already the concept of a

thing you know already the concept of a painter Castel passed out or I can tell

painter Castel passed out or I can tell

painter Castel passed out or I can tell you it looks a lot like castle but you

you it looks a lot like castle but you

you it looks a lot like castle but you just switch the e in the L so it’s

just switch the e in the L so it’s

just switch the e in the L so it’s Castle illusion so now you’re doing

Castle illusion so now you’re doing

Castle illusion so now you’re doing something with the name to remember it

something with the name to remember it

something with the name to remember it and this sort of practice actually leads

and this sort of practice actually leads

and this sort of practice actually leads to good memory performance yet we rarely

to good memory performance yet we rarely

to good memory performance yet we rarely do it so when I give people these

do it so when I give people these

do it so when I give people these mnemonics to try and remember my name

mnemonics to try and remember my name

mnemonics to try and remember my name they say that really helped me dr.

they say that really helped me dr.

they say that really helped me dr. pastel so they’re using the mnemonic but

pastel so they’re using the mnemonic but

pastel so they’re using the mnemonic but sometimes they’re forgetting that you

sometimes they’re forgetting that you

sometimes they’re forgetting that you have to go one step further or they’re

have to go one step further or they’re

have to go one step further or they’re just playing games with me

just playing games with me

just playing games with me so I think what’s bit becomes important

so I think what’s bit becomes important

so I think what’s bit becomes important is not just remembering names but

is not just remembering names but

is not just remembering names but remembering what is the most important

remembering what is the most important

remembering what is the most important so to test this in our lab at UCLA we’ve

so to test this in our lab at UCLA we’ve

so to test this in our lab at UCLA we’ve used a paradigm where I’m going to

used a paradigm where I’m going to

used a paradigm where I’m going to present words with to you one at a time

present words with to you one at a time

present words with to you one at a time and each word is paired with a point

and each word is paired with a point

and each word is paired with a point value and the point value indicates how

value and the point value indicates how

value and the point value indicates how important it is to remember the word and

important it is to remember the word and

important it is to remember the word and this is much like a situation where

this is much like a situation where

this is much like a situation where we’re often overloaded with information

we’re often overloaded with information

we’re often overloaded with information and we need to kind of put our hands up

and we need to kind of put our hands up

and we need to kind of put our hands up and focus on what’s important we need to

and focus on what’s important we need to

and focus on what’s important we need to be selective

be selective

be selective so in this task I’m going to show you

so in this task I’m going to show you

so in this task I’m going to show you these words and they go by fairly

these words and they go by fairly

these words and they go by fairly quickly you won’t be able to remember

quickly you won’t be able to remember

quickly you won’t be able to remember all of them but in order to maximize

all of them but in order to maximize

all of them but in order to maximize your score you should focus on the words

your score you should focus on the words

your score you should focus on the words paired with the highest point value are

paired with the highest point value are

paired with the highest point value are you ready there’s going to be a memory

you ready there’s going to be a memory

you ready there’s going to be a memory test at the end after all the words are

test at the end after all the words are

test at the end after all the words are presented your job is just to recall as

presented your job is just to recall as

presented your job is just to recall as many words as you can in order to

many words as you can in order to

many words as you can in order to maximize your score are you ready

okay just recall as many words as you

okay just recall as many words as you can remember

excellent impressive so I hear a lot of

excellent impressive so I hear a lot of people saying ticket house pizza

people saying ticket house pizza

people saying ticket house pizza you might recall snow or guitar ticket

you might recall snow or guitar ticket

you might recall snow or guitar ticket house pizza were the highest value words

house pizza were the highest value words

house pizza were the highest value words the 12 11 and 10 and this is what we

the 12 11 and 10 and this is what we

the 12 11 and 10 and this is what we found this is the probability of

found this is the probability of

found this is the probability of recalling a word as a function of the

recalling a word as a function of the

recalling a word as a function of the point value and what we find are that

point value and what we find are that

point value and what we find are that both younger and older adults are

both younger and older adults are

both younger and older adults are sensitive to value these are younger

sensitive to value these are younger

sensitive to value these are younger college-age students and older adults

college-age students and older adults

college-age students and older adults over the age of 60 but what’s

over the age of 60 but what’s

over the age of 60 but what’s interesting is there’s no age-related

interesting is there’s no age-related

interesting is there’s no age-related difference for the higher value words in

difference for the higher value words in

difference for the higher value words in fact for the highest value words younger

fact for the highest value words younger

fact for the highest value words younger and older adults are doing just as well

and older adults are doing just as well

and older adults are doing just as well so this suggests that even as we get

so this suggests that even as we get

so this suggests that even as we get older we become selective even if our

older we become selective even if our

older we become selective even if our memory might not let us remember as much

memory might not let us remember as much

memory might not let us remember as much information we can selectively focus on

information we can selectively focus on

information we can selectively focus on what’s important of course in this task

what’s important of course in this task

what’s important of course in this task I told you what was important words

I told you what was important words

I told you what was important words paired with point values but in the real

paired with point values but in the real

paired with point values but in the real world we often do encounter important

world we often do encounter important

world we often do encounter important events that we need to remember

in fact sometimes it can help us survive

in fact sometimes it can help us survive and this sort of obsolete observation

and this sort of obsolete observation

and this sort of obsolete observation reminds me of my grandparents even in

reminds me of my grandparents even in

reminds me of my grandparents even in their 80s or 90s they sometimes confuse

their 80s or 90s they sometimes confuse

their 80s or 90s they sometimes confuse my name with my brother’s name but they

my name with my brother’s name but they

my name with my brother’s name but they would be able to recall the price of

would be able to recall the price of

would be able to recall the price of groceries and specifically groceries

groceries and specifically groceries

groceries and specifically groceries that were on sale they’d almost brag

that were on sale they’d almost brag

that were on sale they’d almost brag about how much bananas were even if they

about how much bananas were even if they

about how much bananas were even if they had to drive five miles across town to

had to drive five miles across town to

had to drive five miles across town to find them so we decided to test this in

find them so we decided to test this in

find them so we decided to test this in the lab and we presented people with

the lab and we presented people with

the lab and we presented people with grocery items in their prices and you

grocery items in their prices and you

grocery items in their prices and you can play along so your job is to

can play along so your job is to

can play along so your job is to remember the grocery item and the price

remember the grocery item and the price

remember the grocery item and the price for a later memory test but we also

for a later memory test but we also

for a later memory test but we also presented items like this overpriced

presented items like this overpriced

presented items like this overpriced items some you might have this reaction

items some you might have this reaction

items some you might have this reaction like oh where are these Whole Foods

like oh where are these Whole Foods

like oh where are these Whole Foods prices and then later we tested people

prices and then later we tested people

prices and then later we tested people so now recall the price of the

so now recall the price of the

so now recall the price of the cornflakes great now how about the price

cornflakes great now how about the price

cornflakes great now how about the price of the ice cream all right and some of

of the ice cream all right and some of

of the ice cream all right and some of you might recall $17 or that’s just too

you might recall $17 or that’s just too

you might recall $17 or that’s just too much and what we found is that younger

much and what we found is that younger

much and what we found is that younger people were better recalling the prices

people were better recalling the prices

people were better recalling the prices the overpriced items but older people

the overpriced items but older people

the overpriced items but older people were just as good if not better than the

were just as good if not better than the

were just as good if not better than the younger people at recalling the prices

younger people at recalling the prices

younger people at recalling the prices that made sense

that made sense

that made sense all right the prices that we experienced

all right the prices that we experienced

all right the prices that we experienced in the real world which suggests that as

in the real world which suggests that as

in the real world which suggests that as we get older we can use schemas or

we get older we can use schemas or

we get older we can use schemas or knowledge to remember new information of

knowledge to remember new information of

knowledge to remember new information of course we might not all be interested in

course we might not all be interested in

course we might not all be interested in the price of bananas or ice cream Albert

the price of bananas or ice cream Albert

the price of bananas or ice cream Albert Einstein once said I have no special

Einstein once said I have no special

Einstein once said I have no special talents I am only passionately curious

talents I am only passionately curious

talents I am only passionately curious and I think what becomes most important

and I think what becomes most important

and I think what becomes most important as we get older is to maintain high

as we get older is to maintain high

as we get older is to maintain high levels of curiosity we examine this in

levels of curiosity we examine this in

levels of curiosity we examine this in the lab by presenting people with trivia

the lab by presenting people with trivia

the lab by presenting people with trivia questions but before we told people the

questions but before we told people the

questions but before we told people the answer to the questions we asked them

answer to the questions we asked them

answer to the questions we asked them how curious they were to learn these

how curious they were to learn these

how curious they were to learn these questions and answers so for example

questions and answers so for example

questions and answers so for example what was the first consumer product to

what was the first consumer product to

what was the first consumer product to have a barcode you can think about that

have a barcode you can think about that

have a barcode you can think about that for a second and then on a scale of one

for a second and then on a scale of one

for a second and then on a scale of one to ten tell me how curious you are to

to ten tell me how curious you are to

to ten tell me how curious you are to learn that answer some of you might not

learn that answer some of you might not

learn that answer some of you might not care at all and some of you might be

care at all and some of you might be

care at all and some of you might be very passionately curious

very passionately curious

very passionately curious anyone want to provide a guess serious

anyone want to provide a guess serious

anyone want to provide a guess serious cigarettes ketchup beer alcohol it was

cigarettes ketchup beer alcohol it was

cigarettes ketchup beer alcohol it was actually Wrigley’s chewing gum okay so

actually Wrigley’s chewing gum okay so

actually Wrigley’s chewing gum okay so now we asked people to rate how curious

now we asked people to rate how curious

now we asked people to rate how curious they are to learn the answer let’s try

they are to learn the answer let’s try

they are to learn the answer let’s try this one what was the first nation to

this one what was the first nation to

this one what was the first nation to give a women the right to vote France

give a women the right to vote France

give a women the right to vote France Sweden now I ask you how curious are you

Sweden now I ask you how curious are you

Sweden now I ask you how curious are you to learn the answer on a scale of one to

to learn the answer on a scale of one to

to learn the answer on a scale of one to ten you know tell me the answer all

ten you know tell me the answer all

ten you know tell me the answer all right it was actually New Zealand okay

right it was actually New Zealand okay

right it was actually New Zealand okay we asked people to rate how curious they

we asked people to rate how curious they

we asked people to rate how curious they are now to learn that and then what we

are now to learn that and then what we

are now to learn that and then what we did is we surprised people a week later

did is we surprised people a week later

did is we surprised people a week later we called these younger and older adults

we called these younger and older adults

we called these younger and older adults who saw over a hundred trivia questions

who saw over a hundred trivia questions

who saw over a hundred trivia questions and we asked them the same questions and

and we asked them the same questions and

and we asked them the same questions and what we found is that it was only the

what we found is that it was only the

what we found is that it was only the older adults who remembered the

older adults who remembered the

older adults who remembered the questions that they found most

questions that they found most

questions that they found most interesting that they were most curious

interesting that they were most curious

interesting that they were most curious about which suggests that as we get

about which suggests that as we get

about which suggests that as we get older we might be more judicious about

older we might be more judicious about

older we might be more judicious about what we try and remember we don’t try

what we try and remember we don’t try

what we try and remember we don’t try and remember everything but we

and remember everything but we

and remember everything but we selectively focus on what’s important

selectively focus on what’s important

selectively focus on what’s important and so I think aging leads more to a

and so I think aging leads more to a

and so I think aging leads more to a change in focus instead of simply

change in focus instead of simply

change in focus instead of simply declines in memory and this change in

declines in memory and this change in

declines in memory and this change in focus can happen at different levels

focus can happen at different levels

focus can happen at different levels I’ve talked a little bit about the

I’ve talked a little bit about the

I’ve talked a little bit about the memory aspects but also in terms of

memory aspects but also in terms of

memory aspects but also in terms of emotion as we get older we focus on

emotion as we get older we focus on

emotion as we get older we focus on different emotions and work at Stanford

different emotions and work at Stanford

different emotions and work at Stanford University has looked at this positivity

University has looked at this positivity

University has looked at this positivity bias when you presented with these faces

bias when you presented with these faces

bias when you presented with these faces which one do you look at first which one

which one do you look at first which one

which one do you look at first which one do you spend the longest time looking at

do you spend the longest time looking at

do you spend the longest time looking at what they’ve shown is that while younger

what they’ve shown is that while younger

what they’ve shown is that while younger people will look at the faces on the

people will look at the faces on the

people will look at the faces on the right older people will spend more time

right older people will spend more time

right older people will spend more time looking at the happy face and this can

looking at the happy face and this can

looking at the happy face and this can influence memory in terms of what we

influence memory in terms of what we

influence memory in terms of what we recall it can also influence mood and it

recall it can also influence mood and it

recall it can also influence mood and it may be related to a surprising finding

may be related to a surprising finding

may be related to a surprising finding that healthy older adults actually are

that healthy older adults actually are

that healthy older adults actually are happier than college aged students

happier than college aged students

happier than college aged students contrary to many people’s expectations

contrary to many people’s expectations

contrary to many people’s expectations and stereotypes so this focus

and stereotypes so this focus

and stereotypes so this focus positivity may actually be adaptive and

positivity may actually be adaptive and

positivity may actually be adaptive and make us happier as we get older so at

make us happier as we get older so at

make us happier as we get older so at the beginning of the talk I mentioned

the beginning of the talk I mentioned

the beginning of the talk I mentioned how we’re often overwhelmed with

how we’re often overwhelmed with

how we’re often overwhelmed with information and I think the key to this

information and I think the key to this

information and I think the key to this is being able to provide a good summary

is being able to provide a good summary

is being able to provide a good summary the other day my daughter was watching a

the other day my daughter was watching a

the other day my daughter was watching a movie and I missed the first 10 minutes

movie and I missed the first 10 minutes

movie and I missed the first 10 minutes of the movie and so I asked her what did

of the movie and so I asked her what did

of the movie and so I asked her what did I miss and my daughter has a very good

I miss and my daughter has a very good

I miss and my daughter has a very good memory and she gives me a report about

memory and she gives me a report about

memory and she gives me a report about exactly what I missed the plot the

exactly what I missed the plot the

exactly what I missed the plot the character the music where the movies set

character the music where the movies set

character the music where the movies set it takes her about five minutes okay

it takes her about five minutes okay

it takes her about five minutes okay compare this to my wife we’ll miss the

compare this to my wife we’ll miss the

compare this to my wife we’ll miss the first 10 or 15 minutes of the movie and

first 10 or 15 minutes of the movie and

first 10 or 15 minutes of the movie and I asked her what did I miss and you know

I asked her what did I miss and you know

I asked her what did I miss and you know what her responses know nothing or

what her responses know nothing or

what her responses know nothing or she’ll give me a very quick summary

she’ll give me a very quick summary

she’ll give me a very quick summary because she has this awareness of what I

because she has this awareness of what I

because she has this awareness of what I need to know and what I’ll learn by

need to know and what I’ll learn by

need to know and what I’ll learn by watching the rest of the movie she

watching the rest of the movie she

watching the rest of the movie she doesn’t need to rely on her memory for

doesn’t need to rely on her memory for

doesn’t need to rely on her memory for what she’s seen she needs to be aware of

what she’s seen she needs to be aware of

what she’s seen she needs to be aware of what I need to know and I think this is

what I need to know and I think this is

what I need to know and I think this is something that might actually get better

something that might actually get better

something that might actually get better with age being able to communicate

with age being able to communicate

with age being able to communicate important information and sometimes

important information and sometimes

important information and sometimes forgetting the rest or letting people

forgetting the rest or letting people

forgetting the rest or letting people learn about what they need to know and

learn about what they need to know and

learn about what they need to know and so I think when we’re presented with a

so I think when we’re presented with a

so I think when we’re presented with a lot of information we don’t necessarily

lot of information we don’t necessarily

lot of information we don’t necessarily need to ignore things we need to distill

need to ignore things we need to distill

need to ignore things we need to distill it we need to take what’s important and

it we need to take what’s important and

it we need to take what’s important and communicate that to the people who are

communicate that to the people who are

communicate that to the people who are interested so if someone asks you how

interested so if someone asks you how

interested so if someone asks you how was your day you don’t tell them

was your day you don’t tell them

was your day you don’t tell them everything you did the entire day you

everything you did the entire day you

everything you did the entire day you communicate what becomes important if

communicate what becomes important if

communicate what becomes important if someone asked you how is that TED talk I

someone asked you how is that TED talk I

someone asked you how is that TED talk I missed it you wouldn’t give them the 18

missed it you wouldn’t give them the 18

missed it you wouldn’t give them the 18 or 20 minute version you’d try and give

or 20 minute version you’d try and give

or 20 minute version you’d try and give them one or two minutes summary and I

them one or two minutes summary and I

them one or two minutes summary and I think this is something that becomes

think this is something that becomes

think this is something that becomes better with age that we’re better at

better with age that we’re better at

better with age that we’re better at summarizing and communicating more

summarizing and communicating more

summarizing and communicating more effectively

effectively

effectively so to summarize as we get older we might

so to summarize as we get older we might

so to summarize as we get older we might make more memory mistakes but this can

make more memory mistakes but this can

make more memory mistakes but this can also lead to some form of adaptive

also lead to some form of adaptive

also lead to some form of adaptive selectivity we know what we know and we

selectivity we know what we know and we

selectivity we know what we know and we know what we don’t need to know and we

know what we don’t need to know and we

know what we don’t need to know and we can learn that forgetting is not

can learn that forgetting is not

can learn that forgetting is not necessarily a bad thing sometimes it’s

necessarily a bad thing sometimes it’s

necessarily a bad thing sometimes it’s good to forget information and focus on

good to forget information and focus on

good to forget information and focus on what is most important and I think with

what is most important and I think with

what is most important and I think with life experience

life experience

life experience we do this more often and this is what

we do this more often and this is what

we do this more often and this is what can allow us to get better with age

can allow us to get better with age

can allow us to get better with age thank you very much

thank you very much

thank you very much [Applause]

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