hi everybody so elaboration in the arts that’s uh that’s a very tricky subject
that’s uh that’s a very tricky subject
that’s uh that’s a very tricky subject when most people think of an artist they
when most people think of an artist they
when most people think of an artist they think someone has locked the world and
think someone has locked the world and
think someone has locked the world and creating something unique from their
creating something unique from their
creating something unique from their soul but even the most collaborative art
soul but even the most collaborative art
soul but even the most collaborative art forms like music theater and film people
forms like music theater and film people
forms like music theater and film people usually credit just one person the sole
usually credit just one person the sole
usually credit just one person the sole creative genius and in the film it’s
creative genius and in the film it’s
creative genius and in the film it’s usually not a director right but if you
usually not a director right but if you
usually not a director right but if you think about it what’s wrong if anything
think about it what’s wrong if anything
think about it what’s wrong if anything our teams
yet to make a movie construction
yet to make a movie construction industry boycotted on her own and
industry boycotted on her own and
industry boycotted on her own and nothing happened in order to give it
nothing happened in order to give it
nothing happened in order to give it then in 2005 we got into the person
called big-time it is a crime ecology
called big-time it is a crime ecology and we shot it for global of six hundred
and we shot it for global of six hundred
and we shot it for global of six hundred thousand pesos well I heard that help it
thousand pesos well I heard that help it
thousand pesos well I heard that help it monster producing both of us writing and
monster producing both of us writing and
monster producing both of us writing and editing but the only way to make it will
editing but the only way to make it will
editing but the only way to make it will be where that little money 600 went the
be where that little money 600 went the
be where that little money 600 went the consequences is by a celebrity and so
consequences is by a celebrity and so
consequences is by a celebrity and so that began our bigger collaboration so
that began our bigger collaboration so
that began our bigger collaboration so after first we asked each other to try
after first we asked each other to try
after first we asked each other to try this festival
yes everyone asked a bunch of strangers
yes everyone asked a bunch of strangers without this room
without this room
without this room strangers gave us money strangers after
strangers gave us money strangers after
strangers gave us money strangers after that art film this is all how we should
that art film this is all how we should
that art film this is all how we should reach with our life so full and distinct
reach with our life so full and distinct
reach with our life so full and distinct to everything we had to make this gun we
to everything we had to make this gun we
to everything we had to make this gun we work very closely together so closely
work very closely together so closely
work very closely together so closely together that so so we started branding
together that so so we started branding
together that so so we started branding our filmmaking as a Mario monster show
our filmmaking as a Mario monster show
our filmmaking as a Mario monster show directed by so from that moment on we
directed by so from that moment on we
directed by so from that moment on we created that ground the more you watch
created that ground the more you watch
created that ground the more you watch your show and then when we finished that
your show and then when we finished that
your show and then when we finished that film it is well it is an opening it
film it is well it is an opening it
film it is well it is an opening it develop critically and make a little bit
develop critically and make a little bit
develop critically and make a little bit of money not a lot I mean but not only
of money not a lot I mean but not only
of money not a lot I mean but not only that it what our names out there and
that it what our names out there and
that it what our names out there and help billions of years and after that we
help billions of years and after that we
help billions of years and after that we actually made a living as filmmakers so
actually made a living as filmmakers so
actually made a living as filmmakers so the majority of the work we’ve done
the majority of the work we’ve done
the majority of the work we’ve done since then he even separately so the
since then he even separately so the
since then he even separately so the majority of the work we’ve done there
majority of the work we’ve done there
majority of the work we’ve done there are claims though but there are certain
are claims though but there are certain
are claims though but there are certain films that we have to do together and we
films that we have to do together and we
films that we have to do together and we know that’s the work that’s important to
know that’s the work that’s important to
know that’s the work that’s important to us and that’s what we call it how are
us and that’s what we call it how are
us and that’s what we call it how are you and monster shows so far we’ve done
you and monster shows so far we’ve done
you and monster shows so far we’ve done three full-length films and two short
three full-length films and two short
three full-length films and two short films
[Applause]
[Applause] essentially you’re giving a piece of
essentially you’re giving a piece of
essentially you’re giving a piece of yourself and you’re making something in
yourself and you’re making something in
yourself and you’re making something in you’re putting it out there for other
you’re putting it out there for other
you’re putting it out there for other people to experience so how do you put
people to experience so how do you put
people to experience so how do you put that to the side and actually
that to the side and actually
that to the side and actually collaborate and collaborate in the true
collaborate and collaborate in the true
collaborate and collaborate in the true manner is not just things first you have
manner is not just things first you have
manner is not just things first you have to find someone you really respect you
to find someone you really respect you
to find someone you really respect you have to be aware that you’re trying to
have to be aware that you’re trying to
have to be aware that you’re trying to bring something together and you have to
bring something together and you have to
bring something together and you have to be that the work is going to be better
be that the work is going to be better
be that the work is going to be better because you’re collaborating so no
because you’re collaborating so no
because you’re collaborating so no respect for the frustration will kill
respect for the frustration will kill
respect for the frustration will kill the friendship
second in the beginning project needs to
second in the beginning project needs to be nurtured the beginning certificate
be nurtured the beginning certificate
be nurtured the beginning certificate genital meet each other and you can be
genital meet each other and you can be
genital meet each other and you can be gentle with each other’s ideas but only
gentle with each other’s ideas but only
gentle with each other’s ideas but only end it again
okay so maybe you can remember in time
okay so maybe you can remember in time when you had an amazing idea it could be
when you had an amazing idea it could be
when you had an amazing idea it could be for anything a story a business and
for anything a story a business and
for anything a story a business and invention and as soon as you told
invention and as soon as you told
invention and as soon as you told someone about it it got shot down pretty
someone about it it got shot down pretty
someone about it it got shot down pretty much because people love to shoot this
much because people love to shoot this
much because people love to shoot this thing it may have been the best idea
thing it may have been the best idea
thing it may have been the best idea ever
ever
ever whatever that I either was or if it
whatever that I either was or if it
whatever that I either was or if it wasn’t the best idea ever it could have
wasn’t the best idea ever it could have
wasn’t the best idea ever it could have become something new but because it got
become something new but because it got
become something new but because it got shot down we’ll never know a good idea
shot down we’ll never know a good idea
shot down we’ll never know a good idea is like a spark of your pilot’s around
is like a spark of your pilot’s around
is like a spark of your pilot’s around that protect it a little bit
so for example I had this fantastic idea
so for example I had this fantastic idea it’s about four per movie so I had an
it’s about four per movie so I had an
it’s about four per movie so I had an idea about four middle-aged women who
idea about four middle-aged women who
idea about four middle-aged women who had lost touch through the years and in
had lost touch through the years and in
had lost touch through the years and in the fifth member of their burka that
the fifth member of their burka that
the fifth member of their burka that died in acid I even wish requested that
died in acid I even wish requested that
died in acid I even wish requested that she be brought by her best friends to
she be brought by her best friends to
she be brought by her best friends to her favorite spot in the universe it’s
her favorite spot in the universe it’s
her favorite spot in the universe it’s this some deserted island resort in my
this some deserted island resort in my
this some deserted island resort in my head it was going to be a road movie and
head it was going to be a road movie and
head it was going to be a road movie and then it was about my fear of losing
then it was about my fear of losing
then it was about my fear of losing position when where you heard about the
position when where you heard about the
position when where you heard about the story he was like boom that’s great and
story he was like boom that’s great and
story he was like boom that’s great and what if you make them search so and then
what if you make them search so and then
what if you make them search so and then what if they fall in love with a young
what if they fall in love with a young
what if they fall in love with a young surf instructor and fight over him and
surf instructor and fight over him and
surf instructor and fight over him and who in the end may or may not be the son
who in the end may or may not be the son
who in the end may or may not be the son that that best friend okay so that’s
that that best friend okay so that’s
that that best friend okay so that’s quite a leap and ridiculous but what is
quite a leap and ridiculous but what is
quite a leap and ridiculous but what is even more ridiculous is that as we
even more ridiculous is that as we
even more ridiculous is that as we develop the story the middle-aged women
develop the story the middle-aged women
develop the story the middle-aged women and then
and then
and then disappear and the surf instructor snake
disappear and the surf instructor snake
disappear and the surf instructor snake and thus was born a puppy next time our
and thus was born a puppy next time our
and thus was born a puppy next time our latest collaboration so just to give you
latest collaboration so just to give you
latest collaboration so just to give you an idea monster could have been really
an idea monster could have been really
an idea monster could have been really frustrating that she had this wonderful
frustrating that she had this wonderful
frustrating that she had this wonderful idea for a film about four middle-aged
idea for a film about four middle-aged
idea for a film about four middle-aged women burying their desperate best
women burying their desperate best
women burying their desperate best friend and I made it into surfing film
friend and I made it into surfing film
friend and I made it into surfing film and I got rid of all the for urban
and I got rid of all the for urban
and I got rid of all the for urban dictionary but that’s just how it goes
dictionary but that’s just how it goes
dictionary but that’s just how it goes but she didn’t shoot me down and I
but she didn’t shoot me down and I
but she didn’t shoot me down and I didn’t shoot her down that’s just how
didn’t shoot her down that’s just how
didn’t shoot her down that’s just how the collaboration went it just traveled
the collaboration went it just traveled
the collaboration went it just traveled from here to there we still might end up
from here to there we still might end up
from here to there we still might end up making that first story I still like it
making that first story I still like it
making that first story I still like it but but she let me run with it because
but but she let me run with it because
but but she let me run with it because at that very stage of the story you have
at that very stage of the story you have
at that very stage of the story you have to be cheerleaders for each other’s work
to be cheerleaders for each other’s work
to be cheerleaders for each other’s work but that’s only in the early stages that
but that’s only in the early stages that
but that’s only in the early stages that brings us to the next part the next
brings us to the next part the next
brings us to the next part the next thing in the later stages you have to
thing in the later stages you have to
thing in the later stages you have to fight and that’s what we heard about
fight and that’s what we heard about
fight and that’s what we heard about collaboration if in the beginning your
collaboration if in the beginning your
collaboration if in the beginning your cheerleaders and it
cheerleaders and it
cheerleaders and it and each other later on when you both
and each other later on when you both
and each other later on when you both have a grasp of what you want to do when
have a grasp of what you want to do when
have a grasp of what you want to do when you have ownership of the thing you’ve
you have ownership of the thing you’ve
you have ownership of the thing you’ve created don’t be afraid to fight you
created don’t be afraid to fight you
created don’t be afraid to fight you have to embrace that fight you have to
have to embrace that fight you have to
have to embrace that fight you have to listen to your anger someone will say
listen to your anger someone will say
listen to your anger someone will say something or collaborator will say
something or collaborator will say
something or collaborator will say something and you’ll get really angry
something and you’ll get really angry
something and you’ll get really angry listen to that anger and figure out why
listen to that anger and figure out why
listen to that anger and figure out why my enemy you have to know maybe actually
my enemy you have to know maybe actually
my enemy you have to know maybe actually it was terrible I get it your
it was terrible I get it your
it was terrible I get it your collaborator had may end up being the
collaborator had may end up being the
collaborator had may end up being the best I mean I’ll give you one example
best I mean I’ll give you one example
best I mean I’ll give you one example you were making a documentary kind of an
you were making a documentary kind of an
you were making a documentary kind of an American and his harem it’s about that
American and his harem it’s about that
American and his harem it’s about that beautiful American so this is a true
beautiful American so this is a true
beautiful American so this is a true story about America and Vietnam War
story about America and Vietnam War
story about America and Vietnam War veteran who moved to the Philippines the
veteran who moved to the Philippines the
veteran who moved to the Philippines the 70s and he put up a harem people the
70s and he put up a harem people the
70s and he put up a harem people the compound and over the decades hundreds
compound and over the decades hundreds
compound and over the decades hundreds of women passive mostly other age
of women passive mostly other age
of women passive mostly other age mother’s benefit doctors he was
mother’s benefit doctors he was
mother’s benefit doctors he was eventually convicted and we met him in
eventually convicted and we met him in
eventually convicted and we met him in prison and he decided to do a
prison and he decided to do a
prison and he decided to do a documentary we had hundreds of hours of
documentary we had hundreds of hours of
documentary we had hundreds of hours of footage monstrous directing this I was
footage monstrous directing this I was
footage monstrous directing this I was pretty soon and the first footage of
pretty soon and the first footage of
pretty soon and the first footage of politicians and psychiatrists
politicians and psychiatrists
politicians and psychiatrists we went to the US and he met with his
we went to the US and he met with his
we went to the US and he met with his family and met his best friends we shot
family and met his best friends we shot
family and met his best friends we shot three hundreds of hours of footage and I
three hundreds of hours of footage and I
three hundreds of hours of footage and I knew the kind of film that I wanted to
knew the kind of film that I wanted to
knew the kind of film that I wanted to make I knew the kind of film that it
make I knew the kind of film that it
make I knew the kind of film that it should have been a bit about colonialism
should have been a bit about colonialism
should have been a bit about colonialism attitude Alisa we butted heads many
attitude Alisa we butted heads many
attitude Alisa we butted heads many times then suddenly monster and a crazy
times then suddenly monster and a crazy
times then suddenly monster and a crazy thought what if it’s a movie about the
thought what if it’s a movie about the
thought what if it’s a movie about the most dysfunctional family in the world
most dysfunctional family in the world
most dysfunctional family in the world so an America and rapists all his
so an America and rapists all his
so an America and rapists all his victims all the women in his life but it
victims all the women in his life but it
victims all the women in his life but it was just another family I thought this
was just another family I thought this
was just another family I thought this was a terrible idea
was a terrible idea
was a terrible idea it’s the worst idea ever you’re treating
it’s the worst idea ever you’re treating
it’s the worst idea ever you’re treating him like with kid gloves you’re making
him like with kid gloves you’re making
him like with kid gloves you’re making him too just another person normalizing
him too just another person normalizing
him too just another person normalizing something so carefully but she fought
something so carefully but she fought
something so carefully but she fought she fought and be fought and never
she fought and be fought and never
she fought and be fought and never fought as hard as we did on that thing
fought as hard as we did on that thing
fought as hard as we did on that thing but she eventually convinced me because
but she eventually convinced me because
but she eventually convinced me because she fought as hard as she did and what
she fought as hard as she did and what
she fought as hard as she did and what we found was that when you throw out all
we found was that when you throw out all
we found was that when you throw out all those hundreds of hours of psychiatrists
those hundreds of hours of psychiatrists
those hundreds of hours of psychiatrists and best friends and politicians and
and best friends and politicians and
and best friends and politicians and lawyers and all the things that would
lawyers and all the things that would
lawyers and all the things that would have made it a different kind of story
have made it a different kind of story
have made it a different kind of story when we just focused on him and the
when we just focused on him and the
when we just focused on him and the women in his life the women who he raped
women in his life the women who he raped
women in his life the women who he raped and eventually made into his family that
and eventually made into his family that
and eventually made into his family that there was a deeper understanding of the
there was a deeper understanding of the
there was a deeper understanding of the politics that came on and the deeper
politics that came on and the deeper
politics that came on and the deeper understanding of that violence and all
understanding of that violence and all
understanding of that violence and all of the things that I wanted to talk
of the things that I wanted to talk
of the things that I wanted to talk about the colonialism that you delisting
about the colonialism that you delisting
about the colonialism that you delisting actually all just came so naturally had
actually all just came so naturally had
actually all just came so naturally had so much fun here so that’s how we
so much fun here so that’s how we
so much fun here so that’s how we collaborate but maybe we should ask a
collaborate but maybe we should ask a
collaborate but maybe we should ask a more basic question which is why
more basic question which is why
more basic question which is why collaborate at all
collaborate at all
collaborate at all first off you can make dark Kurt
first off you can make dark Kurt
first off you can make dark Kurt Vonnegut famously said write with an
Vonnegut famously said write with an
Vonnegut famously said write with an audience in mind even if that audience
audience in mind even if that audience
audience in mind even if that audience is just one person for him it was his
is just one person for him it was his
is just one person for him it was his late sister whenever he wrote were
late sister whenever he wrote were
late sister whenever he wrote were trying to think of something that this
trying to think of something that this
trying to think of something that this sister would’ve liked doing I operate in
sister would’ve liked doing I operate in
sister would’ve liked doing I operate in very much the same way I want whenever I
very much the same way I want whenever I
very much the same way I want whenever I make a movie or write something I tried
make a movie or write something I tried
make a movie or write something I tried to think of something that she would
to think of something that she would
to think of something that she would like she’s my likeness and I want to
like she’s my likeness and I want to
like she’s my likeness and I want to make a movie that he would like we’re
make a movie that he would like we’re
make a movie that he would like we’re each other’s audiences you can’t please
each other’s audiences you can’t please
each other’s audiences you can’t please everyone but if you’re making a comedy
everyone but if you’re making a comedy
everyone but if you’re making a comedy at least we can meet each other laughing
at least we can meet each other laughing
at least we can meet each other laughing even communicating with an audience
even communicating with an audience
even communicating with an audience starts with communicating with one
starts with communicating with one
starts with communicating with one person and if you can’t do that then
person and if you can’t do that then
person and if you can’t do that then you’re screwed
you’re screwed
you’re screwed another good reason to collaborate is to
another good reason to collaborate is to
another good reason to collaborate is to keep each other honest art could be many
keep each other honest art could be many
keep each other honest art could be many things but good art cannot be this
things but good art cannot be this
things but good art cannot be this honest we have to find someone who can
honest we have to find someone who can
honest we have to find someone who can be honest with and sometimes that means
be honest with and sometimes that means
be honest with and sometimes that means telling the other person that the word
telling the other person that the word
telling the other person that the word is bad that what we’re doing is terrible
is bad that what we’re doing is terrible
is bad that what we’re doing is terrible and that we have to improve it in those
and that we have to improve it in those
and that we have to improve it in those times honestly can be the most valuable
times honestly can be the most valuable
times honestly can be the most valuable things unearthing underneath we have so
things unearthing underneath we have so
things unearthing underneath we have so aside from honesty and aside from being
aside from honesty and aside from being
aside from honesty and aside from being each other’s audiences
each other’s audiences
each other’s audiences the biggest reason to collaborate though
the biggest reason to collaborate though
the biggest reason to collaborate though for us
life is short and lonely that’s just the
life is short and lonely that’s just the fact it just is
fact it just is
fact it just is life is short it’ll be over soon and
life is short it’ll be over soon and
life is short it’ll be over soon and it’s lonely you’re all alone making art
it’s lonely you’re all alone making art
it’s lonely you’re all alone making art isn’t only it’s hard to make anything
isn’t only it’s hard to make anything
isn’t only it’s hard to make anything but anything that’s worthwhile is
but anything that’s worthwhile is
but anything that’s worthwhile is difficult and if you can be there for
difficult and if you can be there for
difficult and if you can be there for another person if someone can be there
another person if someone can be there
another person if someone can be there for you at the beginning of that long
for you at the beginning of that long
for you at the beginning of that long road or maybe at the middle of the long
road or maybe at the middle of the long
road or maybe at the middle of the long road and actually especially at the end
road and actually especially at the end
road and actually especially at the end of that long really
of that long really
of that long really it really makes things easier makes you
it really makes things easier makes you
it really makes things easier makes you willing to try again so every film you
willing to try again so every film you
willing to try again so every film you love think about the films you know
love think about the films you know
love think about the films you know every film is a collaboration nobody
every film is a collaboration nobody
every film is a collaboration nobody makes films alone not really even the
makes films alone not really even the
makes films alone not really even the smallest animated films probably meet
smallest animated films probably meet
smallest animated films probably meet voice actors and musicians funny
voice actors and musicians funny
voice actors and musicians funny filmmaking is like life you need friends
filmmaking is like life you need friends
filmmaking is like life you need friends in so many ways you have to find people
in so many ways you have to find people
in so many ways you have to find people or more talented than you are who do
or more talented than you are who do
or more talented than you are who do what you cannot like if you’re directing
what you cannot like if you’re directing
what you cannot like if you’re directing a film and catering it catering it as
a film and catering it catering it as
a film and catering it catering it as well then you’re screwed
well then you’re screwed
well then you’re screwed so and you have to remember like minded
so and you have to remember like minded
so and you have to remember like minded people are the ones who change the world
people are the ones who change the world
people are the ones who change the world before movements they change the world
before movements they change the world
before movements they change the world whether it’s art business or politics
whether it’s art business or politics
whether it’s art business or politics and hopefully you find your own your own
and hopefully you find your own your own
and hopefully you find your own your own collaborators in film or wherever
collaborators in film or wherever
collaborators in film or wherever because your parents were right Dada
because your parents were right Dada
because your parents were right Dada Dada da Dada
Dada da Dada
Dada da Dada you have to look for the people who will
you have to look for the people who will
you have to look for the people who will pushy what do you want to impress who
pushy what do you want to impress who
pushy what do you want to impress who can speak your language and understand
can speak your language and understand
can speak your language and understand what you want to do you have to find
what you want to do you have to find
what you want to do you have to find those people in your field that you
those people in your field that you
those people in your field that you admire and you have to work with them
admire and you have to work with them
admire and you have to work with them because life is short then life and so
because life is short then life and so
because life is short then life and so you just have to keep on finding those
you just have to keep on finding those
you just have to keep on finding those people and if you don’t find those
people and if you don’t find those
people and if you don’t find those people around you then you have to look
people around you then you have to look
people around you then you have to look elsewhere you can’t find people who help
elsewhere you can’t find people who help
elsewhere you can’t find people who help you become better artists that are
you become better artists that are
you become better artists that are business people to my beings again find
business people to my beings again find
business people to my beings again find better friends
so Maria and I started collaborating 12
so Maria and I started collaborating 12 years ago after her first film we became
years ago after her first film we became
years ago after her first film we became a couple
so I say cream three full-length films
so I say cream three full-length films and two short films we also collaborated
and two short films we also collaborated
and two short films we also collaborated on our most important projects
so you may not end up sleeping with your
so you may not end up sleeping with your collaborator I’m so sorry but you never
collaborator I’m so sorry but you never
collaborator I’m so sorry but you never know thank you thank you
know thank you thank you
know thank you thank you [Applause]
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