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hi
hi all right so how many of you guys know
all right so how many of you guys know
all right so how many of you guys know this person this anti-government up has
this person this anti-government up has
this person this anti-government up has got it all sorted so I am
got it all sorted so I am
got it all sorted so I am I’d better journalist and I let me just
I’d better journalist and I let me just
I’d better journalist and I let me just take you through a sense of what she
take you through a sense of what she
take you through a sense of what she really meant when she said a big gay her
really meant when she said a big gay her
really meant when she said a big gay her government was she just reading to just
government was she just reading to just
government was she just reading to just a government and since she comes from
a government and since she comes from
a government and since she comes from Pakistan was it only a reference there
Pakistan was it only a reference there
Pakistan was it only a reference there and why did that you know and I with you
and why did that you know and I with you
and why did that you know and I with you I should go why does all over all over
I should go why does all over all over
I should go why does all over all over India all over the world so since I was
India all over the world so since I was
India all over the world so since I was the journalist let me begin with say an
the journalist let me begin with say an
the journalist let me begin with say an example on journalism and how it works
example on journalism and how it works
example on journalism and how it works so for a moment let’s imagine you are
so for a moment let’s imagine you are
so for a moment let’s imagine you are say farmers living in a pre independence
say farmers living in a pre independence
say farmers living in a pre independence village you’re out in the field you come
village you’re out in the field you come
village you’re out in the field you come back in the evening and you know there
back in the evening and you know there
back in the evening and you know there is some more more and people are
is some more more and people are
is some more more and people are discussing that you know there was an
discussing that you know there was an
discussing that you know there was an announcement that was made by Maharaj
announcement that was made by Maharaj
announcement that was made by Maharaj min and ene oh my god so what was it
min and ene oh my god so what was it
min and ene oh my god so what was it tell us tell me so you go around asking
tell us tell me so you go around asking
tell us tell me so you go around asking people and you know a couple of them
people and you know a couple of them
people and you know a couple of them don’t know so then you realize that
don’t know so then you realize that
don’t know so then you realize that maybe we should go to somebody who was
maybe we should go to somebody who was
maybe we should go to somebody who was actually there when the announcement was
actually there when the announcement was
actually there when the announcement was made so you go to this person and
made so you go to this person and
made so you go to this person and chances are that he could be the Baba
chances are that he could be the Baba
chances are that he could be the Baba right
right
right traditionally they were the hubs of
traditionally they were the hubs of
traditionally they were the hubs of information in a village in thank you
information in a village in thank you
information in a village in thank you maater though ever think about that
maater though ever think about that
maater though ever think about that so you take the conversation flow you
so you take the conversation flow you
so you take the conversation flow you ask him what really happened what was
ask him what really happened what was
ask him what really happened what was the announcement but and they tell you
the announcement but and they tell you
the announcement but and they tell you you know the Maharaja has announced that
you know the Maharaja has announced that
you know the Maharaja has announced that the taxes are doubled
the taxes are doubled
the taxes are doubled do we know the God and you’re like oh
do we know the God and you’re like oh
do we know the God and you’re like oh that’s not fair we what do we do about
that’s not fair we what do we do about
that’s not fair we what do we do about that and things you know and then what
that and things you know and then what
that and things you know and then what you do up you know you the things you do
you do up you know you the things you do
you do up you know you the things you do that we’ll come to later but you decide
that we’ll come to later but you decide
that we’ll come to later but you decide that okay this power is a good guy he’s
that okay this power is a good guy he’s
that okay this power is a good guy he’s given me right information you ask other
given me right information you ask other
given me right information you ask other people around and you verify and you
people around and you verify and you
people around and you verify and you realize that okay he was giving me the
realize that okay he was giving me the
realize that okay he was giving me the right story I can trust him then you you
right story I can trust him then you you
right story I can trust him then you you know you go on with life other things
know you go on with life other things
know you go on with life other things happened maybe some other announcement
happened maybe some other announcement
happened maybe some other announcement next time you know the announcement
next time you know the announcement
next time you know the announcement happens in you know this time the
happens in you know this time the
happens in you know this time the maharaja has got his senses back is like
maharaja has got his senses back is like
maharaja has got his senses back is like okay not Duga now but just there
okay not Duga now but just there
okay not Duga now but just there gonna 1.5 times see like okay at least
gonna 1.5 times see like okay at least
gonna 1.5 times see like okay at least we’re moving forward and and you you
we’re moving forward and and you you
we’re moving forward and and you you take him you go around to the Baba you
take him you go around to the Baba you
take him you go around to the Baba you thank him for giving you the right
thank him for giving you the right
thank him for giving you the right information so that surely brings us to
information so that surely brings us to
information so that surely brings us to the larger question of you know whether
the larger question of you know whether
the larger question of you know whether our news has existed before all these
our news has existed before all these
our news has existed before all these newspapers and these television channels
newspapers and these television channels
newspapers and these television channels and all these you know mobile phone
and all these you know mobile phone
and all these you know mobile phone information that we keep getting on
information that we keep getting on
information that we keep getting on whatsapp messages so whether there was
whatsapp messages so whether there was
whatsapp messages so whether there was information for chances are it has
information for chances are it has
information for chances are it has existed forever
existed forever
existed forever we’ve had information flow happening
we’ve had information flow happening
we’ve had information flow happening even when it was not organized in fact
even when it was not organized in fact
even when it was not organized in fact even our mythology suggests that you
even our mythology suggests that you
even our mythology suggests that you know there they have been characters
know there they have been characters
know there they have been characters have been taking information back and
have been taking information back and
have been taking information back and forth some very famous people do you
forth some very famous people do you
forth some very famous people do you know so so that really takes us to the
know so so that really takes us to the
know so so that really takes us to the larger question of you know where is it
larger question of you know where is it
larger question of you know where is it that we feel news should be headed right
that we feel news should be headed right
that we feel news should be headed right and sharing of information has
and sharing of information has
and sharing of information has organically really evolved over over the
organically really evolved over over the
organically really evolved over over the last few centuries we’ve seen how some
last few centuries we’ve seen how some
last few centuries we’ve seen how some people take the initiative they create
people take the initiative they create
people take the initiative they create their newspapers people like you and me
their newspapers people like you and me
their newspapers people like you and me who are reading it will decide okay
who are reading it will decide okay
who are reading it will decide okay what’s the printing cost to say hundred
what’s the printing cost to say hundred
what’s the printing cost to say hundred bucks you put in hundred bucks we create
bucks you put in hundred bucks we create
bucks you put in hundred bucks we create that use paper for that day but we want
that use paper for that day but we want
that use paper for that day but we want to now expand one more information
to now expand one more information
to now expand one more information Kabaddi match happen in the village
Kabaddi match happen in the village
Kabaddi match happen in the village somebody’s got to report on that he
somebody’s got to report on that he
somebody’s got to report on that he needs more funds so increasingly he
needs more funds so increasingly he
needs more funds so increasingly he looks for other revenue options he goes
looks for other revenue options he goes
looks for other revenue options he goes around these big business shops in the
around these big business shops in the
around these big business shops in the village and he says what if you sponsor
village and he says what if you sponsor
village and he says what if you sponsor me
me
me I put your ad on the newspaper you pay
I put your ad on the newspaper you pay
I put your ad on the newspaper you pay me some money
me some money
me some money win-win I get money you get ads you know
win-win I get money you get ads you know
win-win I get money you get ads you know your business goes that’s all fine so
your business goes that’s all fine so
your business goes that’s all fine so that’s how traditionally you started
that’s how traditionally you started
that’s how traditionally you started drawing globally we saw creation of
drawing globally we saw creation of
drawing globally we saw creation of newspapers and they became there were
newspapers and they became there were
newspapers and they became there were state newspapers and national newspapers
state newspapers and national newspapers
state newspapers and national newspapers and global newspapers and a newsstand
and global newspapers and a newsstand
and global newspapers and a newsstand allotted coming in cable TV so the same
allotted coming in cable TV so the same
allotted coming in cable TV so the same model continued globally all over the
model continued globally all over the
model continued globally all over the world but then came a point when that
world but then came a point when that
world but then came a point when that guy who was advertising said okay we’re
guy who was advertising said okay we’re
guy who was advertising said okay we’re giving you X amount of money what if we
giving you X amount of money what if we
giving you X amount of money what if we give you double this money if you also
give you double this money if you also
give you double this money if you also go around and in your newspaper that
go around and in your newspaper that
go around and in your newspaper that article you say that we are the number
article you say that we are the number
article you say that we are the number one and what we do now that’s a great
one and what we do now that’s a great
one and what we do now that’s a great area you know so people are like oh hang
area you know so people are like oh hang
area you know so people are like oh hang on so what do I compromise on my on this
on so what do I compromise on my on this
on so what do I compromise on my on this trust staff built with
trust staff built with
trust staff built with people the credibility have built with
people the credibility have built with
people the credibility have built with people they’ve been supporting me all
people they’ve been supporting me all
people they’ve been supporting me all these years do I compromise on that this
these years do I compromise on that this
these years do I compromise on that this guy says okay okay what about 1.5 times
guy says okay okay what about 1.5 times
guy says okay okay what about 1.5 times of that this guy’s short maybe so you
of that this guy’s short maybe so you
of that this guy’s short maybe so you know some people were just blink and
know some people were just blink and
know some people were just blink and that’s when things start moving in a
that’s when things start moving in a
that’s when things start moving in a certain direction and then over a period
certain direction and then over a period
certain direction and then over a period of time you realize that they are now
of time you realize that they are now
of time you realize that they are now beginning to control media they decide
beginning to control media they decide
beginning to control media they decide how much money they want to give and
how much money they want to give and
how much money they want to give and they decide what the media starts
they decide what the media starts
they decide what the media starts writing for you what they start
writing for you what they start
writing for you what they start publishing and then there comes a point
publishing and then there comes a point
publishing and then there comes a point when they decide hang on why are we
when they decide hang on why are we
when they decide hang on why are we giving them money for the ads when we
giving them money for the ads when we
giving them money for the ads when we are much more you know we are much more
are much more you know we are much more
are much more you know we are much more wealthy than their so they’re like stop
wealthy than their so they’re like stop
wealthy than their so they’re like stop this business of advertising
this business of advertising
this business of advertising let’s just stop controlling and buy the
let’s just stop controlling and buy the
let’s just stop controlling and buy the whole damn thing and that’s the point
whole damn thing and that’s the point
whole damn thing and that’s the point where a lot of people then decide that
where a lot of people then decide that
where a lot of people then decide that the news business is really viable they
the news business is really viable they
the news business is really viable they are no more interested in controlling
are no more interested in controlling
are no more interested in controlling what you write they now pay you a salary
what you write they now pay you a salary
what you write they now pay you a salary so it really comes to a point where a
so it really comes to a point where a
so it really comes to a point where a lot of these newspapers who were earlier
lot of these newspapers who were earlier
lot of these newspapers who were earlier private enterprises only working towards
private enterprises only working towards
private enterprises only working towards writing what should be written for the
writing what should be written for the
writing what should be written for the society for the reader
society for the reader
society for the reader they were accountable to the reader now
they were accountable to the reader now
they were accountable to the reader now they are accountable to the person who
they are accountable to the person who
they are accountable to the person who owns them and that brings us to the
owns them and that brings us to the
owns them and that brings us to the point of conflict of interest and that’s
point of conflict of interest and that’s
point of conflict of interest and that’s the largest debate that’s happening in
the largest debate that’s happening in
the largest debate that’s happening in the media sector across the world how is
the media sector across the world how is
the media sector across the world how is that bad what’s what’s wrong with our
that bad what’s what’s wrong with our
that bad what’s what’s wrong with our you know somebody has the money he’s
you know somebody has the money he’s
you know somebody has the money he’s just buying something so I imagine
just buying something so I imagine
just buying something so I imagine you’re like you want to go to a
you’re like you want to go to a
you’re like you want to go to a restaurant and you read you know go
restaurant and you read you know go
restaurant and you read you know go through a couple of websites and like is
through a couple of websites and like is
through a couple of websites and like is that restaurant really good and then the
that restaurant really good and then the
that restaurant really good and then the website says this is the number one
website says this is the number one
website says this is the number one restaurant all of India and you’re like
restaurant all of India and you’re like
restaurant all of India and you’re like okay this we must go there you must
okay this we must go there you must
okay this we must go there you must check it out when you finally go with it
check it out when you finally go with it
check it out when you finally go with it the restaurant you realize that they’re
the restaurant you realize that they’re
the restaurant you realize that they’re rats all around why is that you know why
rats all around why is that you know why
rats all around why is that you know why why did that really happen then you go
why did that really happen then you go
why did that really happen then you go cross-check and you find out that the
cross-check and you find out that the
cross-check and you find out that the websites you read it on are owned by the
websites you read it on are owned by the
websites you read it on are owned by the restaurant self obviously there is
restaurant self obviously there is
restaurant self obviously there is conflict of interest obviously is going
conflict of interest obviously is going
conflict of interest obviously is going to work towards his businesses and the
to work towards his businesses and the
to work towards his businesses and the larger question then and you know
larger question then and you know
larger question then and you know another example could be that you have a
another example could be that you have a
another example could be that you have a telecom company that owns say a big news
telecom company that owns say a big news
telecom company that owns say a big news and then suddenly there is some more
and then suddenly there is some more
and then suddenly there is some more more arounds there being a scam but
more arounds there being a scam but
more arounds there being a scam but would this news channel that not owned
would this news channel that not owned
would this news channel that not owned by the telecom company ever give you the
by the telecom company ever give you the
by the telecom company ever give you the right picture on a telecom scam chances
right picture on a telecom scam chances
right picture on a telecom scam chances are they won’t and that’s how the big
are they won’t and that’s how the big
are they won’t and that’s how the big guy I have media right so this is where
guy I have media right so this is where
guy I have media right so this is where you and I need to come in this is where
you and I need to come in this is where
you and I need to come in this is where you and I need to play a role ourselves
you and I need to play a role ourselves
you and I need to play a role ourselves we decide that this is where the reader
we decide that this is where the reader
we decide that this is where the reader is superior to those who own it and we
is superior to those who own it and we
is superior to those who own it and we are the crowd and that’s why we need to
are the crowd and that’s why we need to
are the crowd and that’s why we need to clean and reclaim what is ours which is
clean and reclaim what is ours which is
clean and reclaim what is ours which is our free information our news what can
our free information our news what can
our free information our news what can we do about it together you and me what
we do about it together you and me what
we do about it together you and me what can we do about it and that’s my startup
can we do about it and that’s my startup
can we do about it and that’s my startup it’s called crowd using and what we’ve
it’s called crowd using and what we’ve
it’s called crowd using and what we’ve been trying to do is we run social media
been trying to do is we run social media
been trying to do is we run social media campaigns where we try to really create
campaigns where we try to really create
campaigns where we try to really create videos and inspiring content to tell you
videos and inspiring content to tell you
videos and inspiring content to tell you if there’s a good journalist trying to
if there’s a good journalist trying to
if there’s a good journalist trying to really come up with something really
really come up with something really
really come up with something really important something that you and I are
important something that you and I are
important something that you and I are directly concerned with that affects us
directly concerned with that affects us
directly concerned with that affects us and what we try to do is we try to find
and what we try to do is we try to find
and what we try to do is we try to find them a market we try to find them an
them a market we try to find them an
them a market we try to find them an audience again people like you and me
audience again people like you and me
audience again people like you and me who are ready to pay 100 bucks or 200
who are ready to pay 100 bucks or 200
who are ready to pay 100 bucks or 200 bucks a small money small amount that
bucks a small money small amount that
bucks a small money small amount that can help that project take off and let
can help that project take off and let
can help that project take off and let me give you an example of what we did a
me give you an example of what we did a
me give you an example of what we did a very senior journalist called Pangea
very senior journalist called Pangea
very senior journalist called Pangea guhathakurta was had a career full of
guhathakurta was had a career full of
guhathakurta was had a career full of investigative journalism who’s been
investigative journalism who’s been
investigative journalism who’s been exposing corporate political collusion
exposing corporate political collusion
exposing corporate political collusion and how they’ve been working together to
and how they’ve been working together to
and how they’ve been working together to benefit each other and he’s been
benefit each other and he’s been
benefit each other and he’s been somebody who’s been working on those
somebody who’s been working on those
somebody who’s been working on those things after a point he you know a lot
things after a point he you know a lot
things after a point he you know a lot of the news organizations are not able
of the news organizations are not able
of the news organizations are not able to you know hire him they’re not able to
to you know hire him they’re not able to
to you know hire him they’re not able to afford him because they feel this is a
afford him because they feel this is a
afford him because they feel this is a person who attracts a lot of trouble so
person who attracts a lot of trouble so
person who attracts a lot of trouble so what do we do can we let investigative
what do we do can we let investigative
what do we do can we let investigative journalists just you know be forgotten
journalists just you know be forgotten
journalists just you know be forgotten and scamp’s happen all the time around
and scamp’s happen all the time around
and scamp’s happen all the time around us and do we look beyond it unti doesn’t
us and do we look beyond it unti doesn’t
us and do we look beyond it unti doesn’t really think so anti-government things
really think so anti-government things
really think so anti-government things we need to fight back this is exactly
we need to fight back this is exactly
we need to fight back this is exactly what we did we ran a campaign and 500
what we did we ran a campaign and 500
what we did we ran a campaign and 500 odd people came together somebody gave
odd people came together somebody gave
odd people came together somebody gave 100 rupees 200 rupees some people gave
100 rupees 200 rupees some people gave
100 rupees 200 rupees some people gave $5,000 more and finally we raised
$5,000 more and finally we raised
$5,000 more and finally we raised 18 lakh rupees for his independent
18 lakh rupees for his independent
18 lakh rupees for his independent camping and guess what he’s doing now he
camping and guess what he’s doing now he
camping and guess what he’s doing now he is already working on a couple of other
is already working on a couple of other
is already working on a couple of other investigative stories and we’re hoping
investigative stories and we’re hoping
investigative stories and we’re hoping that it’s gonna come out I’m gonna hear
that it’s gonna come out I’m gonna hear
that it’s gonna come out I’m gonna hear more about that investigation is one
more about that investigation is one
more about that investigation is one part of journalism that has been really
part of journalism that has been really
part of journalism that has been really coming down and that needs to be
coming down and that needs to be
coming down and that needs to be supported but then we also understand in
supported but then we also understand in
supported but then we also understand in this entire corporate controlled media
this entire corporate controlled media
this entire corporate controlled media the other problem has many marginalised
the other problem has many marginalised
the other problem has many marginalised groups like like women like Dalits and
groups like like women like Dalits and
groups like like women like Dalits and minorities and all these other groups
minorities and all these other groups
minorities and all these other groups they tend to really get forgotten or
they tend to really get forgotten or
they tend to really get forgotten or entire system of ratings is not able to
entire system of ratings is not able to
entire system of ratings is not able to incorporate these smaller groups and
incorporate these smaller groups and
incorporate these smaller groups and their voices are becoming absent which
their voices are becoming absent which
their voices are becoming absent which is where another electro based
is where another electro based
is where another electro based organization called Dalit Media Watch
organization called Dalit Media Watch
organization called Dalit Media Watch came in and we decided that you know
came in and we decided that you know
came in and we decided that you know Dalits in India they need a voice they
Dalits in India they need a voice they
Dalits in India they need a voice they need their media to be very vocal and
need their media to be very vocal and
need their media to be very vocal and this organization basically puts
this organization basically puts
this organization basically puts together all the information that any
together all the information that any
together all the information that any news related to this community and it
news related to this community and it
news related to this community and it shares with a wider audience not just in
shares with a wider audience not just in
shares with a wider audience not just in India but even globally thank you no
India but even globally thank you no
India but even globally thank you no point where we realize that views is one
point where we realize that views is one
point where we realize that views is one part of fixing things right so you and I
part of fixing things right so you and I
part of fixing things right so you and I we know being good is good you know we
we know being good is good you know we
we know being good is good you know we know being transparent is good
know being transparent is good
know being transparent is good we know paying your taxes is a good
we know paying your taxes is a good
we know paying your taxes is a good thing we know clean money is a good
thing we know clean money is a good
thing we know clean money is a good thing but that’s the problem is many
thing but that’s the problem is many
thing but that’s the problem is many other sectors are not able to really
other sectors are not able to really
other sectors are not able to really accept those notions really allows that
accept those notions really allows that
accept those notions really allows that to clean the system up to fix a few
to clean the system up to fix a few
to clean the system up to fix a few things around we need to really bring
things around we need to really bring
things around we need to really bring this whole idea of crowdfunding and
this whole idea of crowdfunding and
this whole idea of crowdfunding and empowering people like you and me into
empowering people like you and me into
empowering people like you and me into the mainstream the most important part
the mainstream the most important part
the mainstream the most important part is we intervene in the political space
is we intervene in the political space
is we intervene in the political space that’s why we decided that how about
that’s why we decided that how about
that’s why we decided that how about instead of our MLAs and all our MPs and
instead of our MLAs and all our MPs and
instead of our MLAs and all our MPs and all our politicians all being supported
all our politicians all being supported
all our politicians all being supported by those with money power or muscle
by those with money power or muscle
by those with money power or muscle power the strongmen that you don’t want
power the strongmen that you don’t want
power the strongmen that you don’t want to be you know associated with we want
to be you know associated with we want
to be you know associated with we want to have our own lives we don’t want to
to have our own lives we don’t want to
to have our own lives we don’t want to be affected by that but their
be affected by that but their
be affected by that but their policymaking really affects us how do we
policymaking really affects us how do we
policymaking really affects us how do we intervene how do we change that
intervene how do we change that
intervene how do we change that can we bring in an idea of cleaning up
can we bring in an idea of cleaning up
can we bring in an idea of cleaning up our politics with clean money with
our politics with clean money with
our politics with clean money with transparent white money we tried that we
transparent white money we tried that we
transparent white money we tried that we tried a pilot there was this independent
tried a pilot there was this independent
tried a pilot there was this independent candidate who was contesting the recent
candidate who was contesting the recent
candidate who was contesting the recent elections in Gujarat his name is Jignesh
elections in Gujarat his name is Jignesh
elections in Gujarat his name is Jignesh pavani and we decided that you know he
pavani and we decided that you know he
pavani and we decided that you know he was very clear he did not want any funds
was very clear he did not want any funds
was very clear he did not want any funds from the builders or the corporates or
from the builders or the corporates or
from the builders or the corporates or other political parties so we said short
other political parties so we said short
other political parties so we said short let’s run a crowdfunding campaign we ran
let’s run a crowdfunding campaign we ran
let’s run a crowdfunding campaign we ran a campaign for 15 days and by the end of
a campaign for 15 days and by the end of
a campaign for 15 days and by the end of the 15 days or he was busy campaigning
the 15 days or he was busy campaigning
the 15 days or he was busy campaigning on the ground we were trying to raise
on the ground we were trying to raise
on the ground we were trying to raise funds online by the end of this we ended
funds online by the end of this we ended
funds online by the end of this we ended up raising more than 20 lakh rupees for
up raising more than 20 lakh rupees for
up raising more than 20 lakh rupees for Jignesh Bhavani and and he made sure
Jignesh Bhavani and and he made sure
Jignesh Bhavani and and he made sure that the entire campaign all the
that the entire campaign all the
that the entire campaign all the expenditures done were paid with white
expenditures done were paid with white
expenditures done were paid with white money so that was one intervention we
money so that was one intervention we
money so that was one intervention we made going forward these are just pilots
made going forward these are just pilots
made going forward these are just pilots we know it’s going to be a tough battle
we know it’s going to be a tough battle
we know it’s going to be a tough battle ahead we will be going down to the
ahead we will be going down to the
ahead we will be going down to the villages to all the other tier 2 cities
villages to all the other tier 2 cities
villages to all the other tier 2 cities all across India and we are hoping that
all across India and we are hoping that
all across India and we are hoping that we will be able to replicate these
we will be able to replicate these
we will be able to replicate these models so that when that villager is
models so that when that villager is
models so that when that villager is told once again that you know you have
told once again that you know you have
told once again that you know you have to pay a Dugan Allegan not only is he
to pay a Dugan Allegan not only is he
to pay a Dugan Allegan not only is he able to take control of the information
able to take control of the information
able to take control of the information he leads the news that he leads but he
he leads the news that he leads but he
he leads the news that he leads but he is also able to mobilize people the
is also able to mobilize people the
is also able to mobilize people the villagers around him and fight back
villagers around him and fight back
villagers around him and fight back thank you so much
thank you so much
thank you so much [Applause]
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