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Why Do We Need Borders? | Jacob Berkson PHD | TEDxBrighton


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[Applause] well I yeah thank you very much I I wish

well I yeah thank you very much I I wish

well I yeah thank you very much I I wish people did that every time I walked into

people did that every time I walked into

people did that every time I walked into a room okay I logged into it so look I

a room okay I logged into it so look I

a room okay I logged into it so look I think it’s um it’s widely assumed if not

think it’s um it’s widely assumed if not

think it’s um it’s widely assumed if not widely articulated that states have some

widely articulated that states have some

widely articulated that states have some sort of natural right to determine who

sort of natural right to determine who

sort of natural right to determine who comes into their into their territories

comes into their into their territories

comes into their into their territories what I want to do today is try and

what I want to do today is try and

what I want to do today is try and persuade you that that is not only false

persuade you that that is not only false

persuade you that that is not only false but leads to some deep immorality and

but leads to some deep immorality and

but leads to some deep immorality and and then because this is TEDx Brighton

and then because this is TEDx Brighton

and then because this is TEDx Brighton leave you with some happy thoughts as to

leave you with some happy thoughts as to

leave you with some happy thoughts as to how we can how we can resist that okay

how we can how we can resist that okay

how we can how we can resist that okay so before we launch into into the border

so before we launch into into the border

so before we launch into into the border and why we need to think a little bit

and why we need to think a little bit

and why we need to think a little bit about law and here by law I don’t just

about law and here by law I don’t just

about law and here by law I don’t just mean formal legal systems I do mean any

mean formal legal systems I do mean any

mean formal legal systems I do mean any kind of set of norms that govern

kind of set of norms that govern

kind of set of norms that govern communities but because we’re focusing

communities but because we’re focusing

communities but because we’re focusing on nation-states today I’m going to we

on nation-states today I’m going to we

on nation-states today I’m going to we can just restrict it to conduct to the

can just restrict it to conduct to the

can just restrict it to conduct to the formal legal systems now I think any any

formal legal systems now I think any any

formal legal systems now I think any any legal system that’s going to be

legal system that’s going to be

legal system that’s going to be legitimate needs to be underpinned by a

legitimate needs to be underpinned by a

legitimate needs to be underpinned by a principle and here’s the principle so

principle and here’s the principle so

principle and here’s the principle so resisting with laws to be legitimate

resisting with laws to be legitimate

resisting with laws to be legitimate those who are subject to the force of

those who are subject to the force of

those who are subject to the force of the law must also be offered its

the law must also be offered its

the law must also be offered its protection that’s what I think now what

protection that’s what I think now what

protection that’s what I think now what does that mean

does that mean

does that mean let’s on pick it a bit if your subjects

let’s on pick it a bit if your subjects

let’s on pick it a bit if your subjects the force of the law then the law is

the force of the law then the law is

the force of the law then the law is claiming power over you exclaiming power

claiming power over you exclaiming power

claiming power over you exclaiming power to regulate your life regulate your

to regulate your life regulate your

to regulate your life regulate your relationships determine you know what’s

relationships determine you know what’s

relationships determine you know what’s acceptable behavior and so on and that’s

acceptable behavior and so on and that’s

acceptable behavior and so on and that’s all backed up with the threat of

all backed up with the threat of

all backed up with the threat of punishment incarceration or fines in our

punishment incarceration or fines in our

punishment incarceration or fines in our case what is it to be offered the Lord’s

case what is it to be offered the Lord’s

case what is it to be offered the Lord’s protection well I think the law has to

protection well I think the law has to

protection well I think the law has to be taking your interests your values and

be taking your interests your values and

be taking your interests your values and your needs into account in some sense

your needs into account in some sense

your needs into account in some sense the law has to be for you now it’s easy

the law has to be for you now it’s easy

the law has to be for you now it’s easy to motivate that principle I think if

to motivate that principle I think if

to motivate that principle I think if you’re a Democrat democracy is a system

you’re a Democrat democracy is a system

you’re a Democrat democracy is a system of government I think in which what

of government I think in which what

of government I think in which what happens happens with the consent of the

happens happens with the consent of the

happens happens with the consent of the governed no that that’s not necessarily

governed no that that’s not necessarily

governed no that that’s not necessarily involves voting but you can see why we

involves voting but you can see why we

involves voting but you can see why we stumbled upon voting I think as the as a

stumbled upon voting I think as the as a

stumbled upon voting I think as the as a solution to the central problem of

solution to the central problem of

solution to the central problem of democracy namely how do we deal with

democracy namely how do we deal with

democracy namely how do we deal with irreconcilable disagreement in any large

irreconcilable disagreement in any large

irreconcilable disagreement in any large enough community we’re never

enough community we’re never

enough community we’re never I’m going to agree on what should happen

I’m going to agree on what should happen

I’m going to agree on what should happen and if I if I disagree with something

and if I if I disagree with something

and if I if I disagree with something how can I consent to it and I think the

how can I consent to it and I think the

how can I consent to it and I think the answer is well what we need is a fair

answer is well what we need is a fair

answer is well what we need is a fair process of making decisions and a

process of making decisions and a

process of making decisions and a process in which I can take part and

process in which I can take part and

process in which I can take part and that’s why I think we have a system of a

that’s why I think we have a system of a

that’s why I think we have a system of a rating that’s meant to be a fair process

rating that’s meant to be a fair process

rating that’s meant to be a fair process how well our first past the post system

how well our first past the post system

how well our first past the post system does I couldn’t possibly comment

does I couldn’t possibly comment

does I couldn’t possibly comment I digress

I digress

I digress I don’t think though it’s just Democrat

I don’t think though it’s just Democrat

I don’t think though it’s just Democrat Democratic systems that need to be

Democratic systems that need to be

Democratic systems that need to be underpinned by this principle I think

underpinned by this principle I think

underpinned by this principle I think indeed any any system of government does

indeed any any system of government does

indeed any any system of government does because if not what what happens is the

because if not what what happens is the

because if not what what happens is the lawyers can claiming complete power over

lawyers can claiming complete power over

lawyers can claiming complete power over you the only thing that’s constraining

you the only thing that’s constraining

you the only thing that’s constraining the law is is the will of the rulers and

the law is is the will of the rulers and

the law is is the will of the rulers and that I think is totalitarianism and the

that I think is totalitarianism and the

that I think is totalitarianism and the heart of totalitarianism is this idea

heart of totalitarianism is this idea

heart of totalitarianism is this idea that the state has absolute power over

that the state has absolute power over

that the state has absolute power over you and has and the only thing that’s

you and has and the only thing that’s

you and has and the only thing that’s going to constrain that is is what the

going to constrain that is is what the

going to constrain that is is what the rule is fine to be expedient so there’s

rule is fine to be expedient so there’s

rule is fine to be expedient so there’s an awful lot at stake here okay so I’m

an awful lot at stake here okay so I’m

an awful lot at stake here okay so I’m going to try and use that principle to

going to try and use that principle to

going to try and use that principle to show you why closed borders are

show you why closed borders are

show you why closed borders are illegitimate so let’s think about

illegitimate so let’s think about

illegitimate so let’s think about borders for a moment okay no borders are

borders for a moment okay no borders are

borders for a moment okay no borders are like that’s not on border so a closed

like that’s not on border so a closed

like that’s not on border so a closed borders I can leave my bedroom freely

borders I can leave my bedroom freely

borders I can leave my bedroom freely and walk into my front room or not walk

and walk into my front room or not walk

and walk into my front room or not walk in my case but anyway and if I do then I

in my case but anyway and if I do then I

in my case but anyway and if I do then I love I love crossed a border and the

love I love crossed a border and the

love I love crossed a border and the norms of behavior that that govern those

norms of behavior that that govern those

norms of behavior that that govern those things will will have changed right so

things will will have changed right so

things will will have changed right so for example in the in the bedroom with

for example in the in the bedroom with

for example in the in the bedroom with the right background prerequisite it’s

the right background prerequisite it’s

the right background prerequisite it’s really very acceptable to be naked with

really very acceptable to be naked with

really very acceptable to be naked with other people much less so in the front

other people much less so in the front

other people much less so in the front room

room

room if you are you’ll probably be being a

if you are you’ll probably be being a

if you are you’ll probably be being a bit dirty that’s okay right but

bit dirty that’s okay right but

bit dirty that’s okay right but unfortunately all borders are open

unfortunately all borders are open

unfortunately all borders are open borders right I even if I had the money

borders right I even if I had the money

borders right I even if I had the money I don’t have the papers to go to the US

I don’t have the papers to go to the US

I don’t have the papers to go to the US I can’t jump on a plane tomorrow and

I can’t jump on a plane tomorrow and

I can’t jump on a plane tomorrow and spend the weekend in New York although

spend the weekend in New York although

spend the weekend in New York although being a nice white British person I

being a nice white British person I

being a nice white British person I could probably manage to manage to get

could probably manage to manage to get

could probably manage to manage to get papers within about 72 hours but if you

papers within about 72 hours but if you

papers within about 72 hours but if you came from Somalia or the global south

came from Somalia or the global south

came from Somalia or the global south and you want to go into the countries

and you want to go into the countries

and you want to go into the countries where the money’s flow you’re going to

where the money’s flow you’re going to

where the money’s flow you’re going to find those borders shut against you and

find those borders shut against you and

find those borders shut against you and an incredible level of state violence

an incredible level of state violence

an incredible level of state violence employed to keep you out and that’s why

employed to keep you out and that’s why

employed to keep you out and that’s why we’ve seen people drown of dying in the

we’ve seen people drown of dying in the

we’ve seen people drown of dying in the Sahara and drowning in the Med trapped

Sahara and drowning in the Med trapped

Sahara and drowning in the Med trapped in in in in effectively in concentration

in in in in effectively in concentration

in in in in effectively in concentration camps in in the Aegean and and

camps in in the Aegean and and

camps in in the Aegean and and persecuted and harassed border

persecuted and harassed border

persecuted and harassed border bottlenecks like Calais or across Europe

bottlenecks like Calais or across Europe

bottlenecks like Calais or across Europe okay so we know that happens how does

okay so we know that happens how does

okay so we know that happens how does the principle apply here well let’s just

the principle apply here well let’s just

the principle apply here well let’s just think about it for a moment if you’re in

think about it for a moment if you’re in

think about it for a moment if you’re in Calais and you’re trying to come to the

Calais and you’re trying to come to the

Calais and you’re trying to come to the UK without papers you’ll find the border

UK without papers you’ll find the border

UK without papers you’ll find the border closed against you but the law there has

closed against you but the law there has

closed against you but the law there has to be acting on both sides of the border

to be acting on both sides of the border

to be acting on both sides of the border right the law the British law is

right the law the British law is

right the law the British law is claiming the power over you to stop you

claiming the power over you to stop you

claiming the power over you to stop you coming in and forcing you but of course

coming in and forcing you but of course

coming in and forcing you but of course you’re outside of the UK’s jurisdiction

you’re outside of the UK’s jurisdiction

you’re outside of the UK’s jurisdiction so it’s not offering you its protection

so it’s not offering you its protection

so it’s not offering you its protection any sense it’s not taking your interest

any sense it’s not taking your interest

any sense it’s not taking your interest into account and that’s why those border

into account and that’s why those border

into account and that’s why those border spaces are so incredibly violent the

spaces are so incredibly violent the

spaces are so incredibly violent the people on the other side of the border

people on the other side of the border

people on the other side of the border has subject to the force of a law to

has subject to the force of a law to

has subject to the force of a law to which they’re not being offered its

which they’re not being offered its

which they’re not being offered its protection

protection

protection and I think that’s fundamentally

and I think that’s fundamentally

and I think that’s fundamentally illegitimate and so we can see that this

illegitimate and so we can see that this

illegitimate and so we can see that this assumption the state has a natural right

assumption the state has a natural right

assumption the state has a natural right to keep you out is in fact false now you

to keep you out is in fact false now you

to keep you out is in fact false now you might say like fine you’ve got an

might say like fine you’ve got an

might say like fine you’ve got an argument to show that that the

argument to show that that the

argument to show that that the principles false and it’s unjust but you

principles false and it’s unjust but you

principles false and it’s unjust but you can’t seriously expect us to open the

can’t seriously expect us to open the

can’t seriously expect us to open the border simply because you’ve kind of got

border simply because you’ve kind of got

border simply because you’ve kind of got a neat argument so that you need to keep

a neat argument so that you need to keep

a neat argument so that you need to keep the border closed that’s just a kind of

the border closed that’s just a kind of

the border closed that’s just a kind of philosophers problem and I would say

philosophers problem and I would say

philosophers problem and I would say well fine like I want to live in a just

well fine like I want to live in a just

well fine like I want to live in a just world I think it’s not just I think we

world I think it’s not just I think we

world I think it’s not just I think we can do something about it but maybe you

can do something about it but maybe you

can do something about it but maybe you can make yourself happy with that much

can make yourself happy with that much

can make yourself happy with that much injustice but I want to draw your

injustice but I want to draw your

injustice but I want to draw your attention to a feature of the UK border

attention to a feature of the UK border

attention to a feature of the UK border regime of

regime of

regime of that’s replicated across Europe and in

that’s replicated across Europe and in

that’s replicated across Europe and in the US but is one that I fight against

the US but is one that I fight against

the US but is one that I fight against here so that’s what I’m going to talk

here so that’s what I’m going to talk

here so that’s what I’m going to talk about and it’s namely that once you

about and it’s namely that once you

about and it’s namely that once you cross the border into the UK if you

cross the border into the UK if you

cross the border into the UK if you don’t have papers you don’t have the

don’t have papers you don’t have the

don’t have papers you don’t have the government’s permission it says if

government’s permission it says if

government’s permission it says if you’re not here legally you still remain

you’re not here legally you still remain

you’re not here legally you still remain on the other side of the border now why

on the other side of the border now why

on the other side of the border now why do I say that well for a start you’re

do I say that well for a start you’re

do I say that well for a start you’re not it’s illegal for you to work it’s

not it’s illegal for you to work it’s

not it’s illegal for you to work it’s illegal for someone to rent you a house

illegal for someone to rent you a house

illegal for someone to rent you a house you can’t have a driving license you

you can’t have a driving license you

you can’t have a driving license you can’t have a bank account you can’t get

can’t have a bank account you can’t get

can’t have a bank account you can’t get you can get only a very very small range

you can get only a very very small range

you can get only a very very small range of Social Security and then only in

of Social Security and then only in

of Social Security and then only in exceptional circumstances there’s an

exceptional circumstances there’s an

exceptional circumstances there’s an ever-diminishing range of health care

ever-diminishing range of health care

ever-diminishing range of health care services that you’re entitled to and to

services that you’re entitled to and to

services that you’re entitled to and to make it worse if you then go to any of

make it worse if you then go to any of

make it worse if you then go to any of these kind of service providers they’re

these kind of service providers they’re

these kind of service providers they’re expected to check your immigration

expected to check your immigration

expected to check your immigration status and report that back to the home

status and report that back to the home

status and report that back to the home office so effectively the border is

office so effectively the border is

office so effectively the border is everywhere and everyone is a border

everywhere and everyone is a border

everywhere and everyone is a border guard even more dramatically and more

guard even more dramatically and more

guard even more dramatically and more horrific Li you can be detained

horrific Li you can be detained

horrific Li you can be detained indefinitely for administrative purposes

indefinitely for administrative purposes

indefinitely for administrative purposes in so-called immigration detention

in so-called immigration detention

in so-called immigration detention centers like Moreton Hall immigration

centers like Moreton Hall immigration

centers like Moreton Hall immigration removal centers like Moreton Hall if

removal centers like Moreton Hall if

removal centers like Moreton Hall if you’re a UK citizen and so subject to

you’re a UK citizen and so subject to

you’re a UK citizen and so subject to the force of the law but also for its

the force of the law but also for its

the force of the law but also for its protection and the government wants to

protection and the government wants to

protection and the government wants to lock you up what the government has to

lock you up what the government has to

lock you up what the government has to do is go before a judge persuade the

do is go before a judge persuade the

do is go before a judge persuade the judge and the court that you you should

judge and the court that you you should

judge and the court that you you should be detained the exception of course is

be detained the exception of course is

be detained the exception of course is in some terrorist related stuff we

in some terrorist related stuff we

in some terrorist related stuff we should be very worried about the

should be very worried about the

should be very worried about the undermining of of that principle in with

undermining of of that principle in with

undermining of of that principle in with terrorism but if you’re if you’re a

terrorism but if you’re if you’re a

terrorism but if you’re if you’re a person here without papers you can be

person here without papers you can be

person here without papers you can be subject you can be locked up

subject you can be locked up

subject you can be locked up indefinitely simply because it serves

indefinitely simply because it serves

indefinitely simply because it serves the purposes of the administration it’s

the purposes of the administration it’s

the purposes of the administration it’s very clear that you are being subject to

very clear that you are being subject to

very clear that you are being subject to the force of the law but not being

the force of the law but not being

the force of the law but not being offered its protection before I move on

offered its protection before I move on

offered its protection before I move on to talk about what we can do about it I

to talk about what we can do about it I

to talk about what we can do about it I want to draw attention to the really key

want to draw attention to the really key

want to draw attention to the really key feature of of this system and that is

feature of of this system and that is

feature of of this system and that is that it’s racist I think a lot of people

that it’s racist I think a lot of people

that it’s racist I think a lot of people in my generation was taught by programs

in my generation was taught by programs

in my generation was taught by programs like Blue Peter that that racism was

like Blue Peter that that racism was

like Blue Peter that that racism was about prejudice and power and although

about prejudice and power and although

about prejudice and power and although of course prejudice and power are

of course prejudice and power are

of course prejudice and power are mechanisms by which racism works they’re

mechanisms by which racism works they’re

mechanisms by which racism works they’re not the heart of racism racism is simply

not the heart of racism racism is simply

not the heart of racism racism is simply the systematic exclusion of people

the systematic exclusion of people

the systematic exclusion of people from society and its goods and services

from society and its goods and services

from society and its goods and services because of their kind of perceived

because of their kind of perceived

because of their kind of perceived foreignness and I don’t need to have any

foreignness and I don’t need to have any

foreignness and I don’t need to have any psychological attitudes to work to

psychological attitudes to work to

psychological attitudes to work to exclude you from society because the

exclude you from society because the

exclude you from society because the things I take for granted all I have to

things I take for granted all I have to

things I take for granted all I have to do is make myself comfortable with that

do is make myself comfortable with that

do is make myself comfortable with that level of injustice and more pertinently

level of injustice and more pertinently

level of injustice and more pertinently institutions don’t have psychological

institutions don’t have psychological

institutions don’t have psychological attitudes affect they can have

attitudes affect they can have

attitudes affect they can have psychological attitudes but they can

psychological attitudes but they can

psychological attitudes but they can work to systematically exclude people

work to systematically exclude people

work to systematically exclude people because of because of their origins and

because of because of their origins and

because of because of their origins and that’s exactly what Sol or is doing if

that’s exactly what Sol or is doing if

that’s exactly what Sol or is doing if you’re here without papers that the

you’re here without papers that the

you’re here without papers that the whole mechanism of the state is geared

whole mechanism of the state is geared

whole mechanism of the state is geared up to keep you out from society and so

up to keep you out from society and so

up to keep you out from society and so we’ve got a brutal and racist injustice

we’ve got a brutal and racist injustice

we’ve got a brutal and racist injustice do we need to do something about I mean

do we need to do something about I mean

do we need to do something about I mean it’s a huge problem the best available

it’s a huge problem the best available

it’s a huge problem the best available estimate suggests that are around about

estimate suggests that are around about

estimate suggests that are around about 600,000 people here without papers we

600,000 people here without papers we

600,000 people here without papers we know that about 250,000 that’s a quarter

know that about 250,000 that’s a quarter

know that about 250,000 that’s a quarter of a million people immigrants are

of a million people immigrants are

of a million people immigrants are destitute and around about a hundred

destitute and around about a hundred

destitute and around about a hundred thousand of those people will have slept

thousand of those people will have slept

thousand of those people will have slept rough so it’s really something that we

rough so it’s really something that we

rough so it’s really something that we have to do something about and what can

have to do something about and what can

have to do something about and what can we do about it

we do about it

we do about it well I think the answer is quite a lot

well I think the answer is quite a lot

well I think the answer is quite a lot fortunately I’m an optimist and I think

fortunately I’m an optimist and I think

fortunately I’m an optimist and I think the first thing to remember is although

the first thing to remember is although

the first thing to remember is although laws govern society they’re not the only

laws govern society they’re not the only

laws govern society they’re not the only they’re not the only norms that govern

they’re not the only norms that govern

they’re not the only norms that govern things fortunately it’s not yet illegal

things fortunately it’s not yet illegal

things fortunately it’s not yet illegal to to lie about what you’ve been doing

to to lie about what you’ve been doing

to to lie about what you’ve been doing to your friends but you can generally

to your friends but you can generally

to your friends but you can generally expect your friends to be truthful when

expect your friends to be truthful when

expect your friends to be truthful when you ask them what they did at the

you ask them what they did at the

you ask them what they did at the weekend the law I think in some ways

weekend the law I think in some ways

weekend the law I think in some ways discourages us from helping our

discourages us from helping our

discourages us from helping our neighbors you can get yourself into all

neighbors you can get yourself into all

neighbors you can get yourself into all sorts of legal trouble if things go

sorts of legal trouble if things go

sorts of legal trouble if things go wrong when you’re trying to help people

wrong when you’re trying to help people

wrong when you’re trying to help people but that doesn’t stop us setting up

but that doesn’t stop us setting up

but that doesn’t stop us setting up schemes that promote based on mutual aid

schemes that promote based on mutual aid

schemes that promote based on mutual aid that promote good neighborliness and so

that promote good neighborliness and so

that promote good neighborliness and so I think that’s exactly the sort of thing

I think that’s exactly the sort of thing

I think that’s exactly the sort of thing we’ve got to try and do here look and

we’ve got to try and do here look and

we’ve got to try and do here look and also of course you can just ignore laws

also of course you can just ignore laws

also of course you can just ignore laws you can break them I think I’m not a fan

you can break them I think I’m not a fan

you can break them I think I’m not a fan of cannabis but actually one of the

of cannabis but actually one of the

of cannabis but actually one of the reasons why the criminalization of

reasons why the criminalization of

reasons why the criminalization of marijuana is creaking is simply that no

marijuana is creaking is simply that no

marijuana is creaking is simply that no one’s bothered by the fact that it’s

one’s bothered by the fact that it’s

one’s bothered by the fact that it’s illegal it doesn’t prevent anyone from

illegal it doesn’t prevent anyone from

illegal it doesn’t prevent anyone from smoking it so and I think we need to try

smoking it so and I think we need to try

smoking it so and I think we need to try and bring those principles in to to the

and bring those principles in to to the

and bring those principles in to to the struggle against the border so for

struggle against the border so for

struggle against the border so for example the school census is going to

example the school census is going to

example the school census is going to require you to give information and ask

require you to give information and ask

require you to give information and ask you to give information about

you to give information about

you to give information about your immigration sages and Nationality

your immigration sages and Nationality

your immigration sages and Nationality to the schools but if you’re a parent

to the schools but if you’re a parent

to the schools but if you’re a parent you don’t have to fill that part of the

you don’t have to fill that part of the

you don’t have to fill that part of the census in and if you don’t feel that

census in and if you don’t feel that

census in and if you don’t feel that part of the census in then it’s then it

part of the census in then it’s then it

part of the census in then it’s then it makes the whole exercise pointless and

makes the whole exercise pointless and

makes the whole exercise pointless and it’s a way we have of pushing the border

it’s a way we have of pushing the border

it’s a way we have of pushing the border back to the border similarly when you go

back to the border similarly when you go

back to the border similarly when you go to the hospital in Brighton and it’s

to the hospital in Brighton and it’s

to the hospital in Brighton and it’s going to be rolled out nationally you’re

going to be rolled out nationally you’re

going to be rolled out nationally you’re going to be expected to produce identity

going to be expected to produce identity

going to be expected to produce identity and proof of nationality so they can

and proof of nationality so they can

and proof of nationality so they can work out who’s entitled to treatment but

work out who’s entitled to treatment but

work out who’s entitled to treatment but you don’t have to produce those

you don’t have to produce those

you don’t have to produce those documents and if we don’t it will also

documents and if we don’t it will also

documents and if we don’t it will also strengthen the administrators and the

strengthen the administrators and the

strengthen the administrators and the frontline staff who want to resist being

frontline staff who want to resist being

frontline staff who want to resist being turned in to border guards and again we

turned in to border guards and again we

turned in to border guards and again we can start to push back the border now

can start to push back the border now

can start to push back the border now it’s harder in employment or housing

it’s harder in employment or housing

it’s harder in employment or housing work because it becomes a criminal

work because it becomes a criminal

work because it becomes a criminal offence to employ somebody or to or to

offence to employ somebody or to or to

offence to employ somebody or to or to rent them a house and by all means break

rent them a house and by all means break

rent them a house and by all means break the law I I highly encourage you to but

the law I I highly encourage you to but

the law I I highly encourage you to but obviously it’s a it’s a big risk right

obviously it’s a it’s a big risk right

obviously it’s a it’s a big risk right and that’s one of the reasons why we set

and that’s one of the reasons why we set

and that’s one of the reasons why we set up thousand four one thousand we said

up thousand four one thousand we said

up thousand four one thousand we said look we can find homes for people we can

look we can find homes for people we can

look we can find homes for people we can bring them in by community funding we

bring them in by community funding we

bring them in by community funding we can have recurring micro donations from

can have recurring micro donations from

can have recurring micro donations from enough people the headlines would have a

enough people the headlines would have a

enough people the headlines would have a thousand people with a pound a month and

thousand people with a pound a month and

thousand people with a pound a month and we’d be able to rent homes and so far we

we’d be able to rent homes and so far we

we’d be able to rent homes and so far we found homes for seven people in Brighton

found homes for seven people in Brighton

found homes for seven people in Brighton and we’re expanding all the time which

and we’re expanding all the time which

and we’re expanding all the time which is great there are also spare room

is great there are also spare room

is great there are also spare room schemes if you’re lucky enough to have

schemes if you’re lucky enough to have

schemes if you’re lucky enough to have the spare room in Brighton or anywhere

the spare room in Brighton or anywhere

the spare room in Brighton or anywhere then you can sign up to room for

then you can sign up to room for

then you can sign up to room for refugees from positive action in housing

refugees from positive action in housing

refugees from positive action in housing and and how somebody in your house will

and and how somebody in your house will

and and how somebody in your house will they sort out their immigration status

they sort out their immigration status

they sort out their immigration status but it’s not just those kind of

but it’s not just those kind of

but it’s not just those kind of practical things I also think we can

practical things I also think we can

practical things I also think we can think about how how we run our

think about how how we run our

think about how how we run our communities to make them more inclusive

communities to make them more inclusive

communities to make them more inclusive if you’re going to hear from Tim later

if you’re going to hear from Tim later

if you’re going to hear from Tim later in the day from the right in Table

in the day from the right in Table

in the day from the right in Table Tennis Club but they’ve been amazing

Tennis Club but they’ve been amazing

Tennis Club but they’ve been amazing about making space for refugees and

about making space for refugees and

about making space for refugees and asylum seekers and they’re now using

asylum seekers and they’re now using

asylum seekers and they’re now using ping-pong to teach people English and

ping-pong to teach people English and

ping-pong to teach people English and it’s a really lovely project that

it’s a really lovely project that

it’s a really lovely project that increases the diversity in our

increases the diversity in our

increases the diversity in our communities the Harvey Road project who

communities the Harvey Road project who

communities the Harvey Road project who are amazing set up the global social

are amazing set up the global social

are amazing set up the global social club on a very similar similar kind of

club on a very similar similar kind of

club on a very similar similar kind of way and there are plenty of other

way and there are plenty of other

way and there are plenty of other projects in Brighton that do similar

projects in Brighton that do similar

projects in Brighton that do similar things so that’s the more that we

things so that’s the more that we

things so that’s the more that we amplify these projects with our support

amplify these projects with our support

amplify these projects with our support with our voices with our money and with

with our voices with our money and with

with our voices with our money and with our time the more we increase the

our time the more we increase the

our time the more we increase the diversity and inclusivity of our society

diversity and inclusivity of our society

diversity and inclusivity of our society and the more we push back against the

and the more we push back against the

and the more we push back against the border and that for me is very exciting

border and that for me is very exciting

border and that for me is very exciting because I am rubbish on the barricades I

because I am rubbish on the barricades I

because I am rubbish on the barricades I am no good and that’s like type of type

am no good and that’s like type of type

am no good and that’s like type of type of the fight

of the fight

of the fight but instead we can try and find

but instead we can try and find

but instead we can try and find practical ways to make our society

practical ways to make our society

practical ways to make our society inclusive and value diversity for the

inclusive and value diversity for the

inclusive and value diversity for the good that it is before I go I want to

good that it is before I go I want to

good that it is before I go I want to leave you with one one final thought if

leave you with one one final thought if

leave you with one one final thought if you’re not yet convinced that we need to

you’re not yet convinced that we need to

you’re not yet convinced that we need to open the border and we should have a

open the border and we should have a

open the border and we should have a diverse society then then I want to try

diverse society then then I want to try

diverse society then then I want to try to sway do that we should is my last

to sway do that we should is my last

to sway do that we should is my last pitch ok so um I think I don’t think

pitch ok so um I think I don’t think

pitch ok so um I think I don’t think that many people who want to keep the

that many people who want to keep the

that many people who want to keep the border closed want to keep the border

border closed want to keep the border

border closed want to keep the border closed because they want Britain to be

closed because they want Britain to be

closed because they want Britain to be white I think there are kind of tiny

white I think there are kind of tiny

white I think there are kind of tiny handful of people that have those

handful of people that have those

handful of people that have those diehard racist views I think I guess for

diehard racist views I think I guess for

diehard racist views I think I guess for most people there’s a kind of fear I’d

most people there’s a kind of fear I’d

most people there’s a kind of fear I’d make that guess because I I have it

make that guess because I I have it

make that guess because I I have it myself from time to time and I think we

myself from time to time and I think we

myself from time to time and I think we all of us are aware that we have it good

all of us are aware that we have it good

all of us are aware that we have it good here in global terms we have a stable

here in global terms we have a stable

here in global terms we have a stable functioning society we have universal

functioning society we have universal

functioning society we have universal health care universal education Social

health care universal education Social

health care universal education Social Security and we’re rich enough to make

Security and we’re rich enough to make

Security and we’re rich enough to make those best and if we’ve made those

those best and if we’ve made those

those best and if we’ve made those political choices and of course change

political choices and of course change

political choices and of course change change is a risk you never know what’s

change is a risk you never know what’s

change is a risk you never know what’s going to happen if you make a big change

going to happen if you make a big change

going to happen if you make a big change so we kind of get scared I think and we

so we kind of get scared I think and we

so we kind of get scared I think and we and we don’t want to do it we want to

and we don’t want to do it we want to

and we don’t want to do it we want to keep our privilege but I think we should

keep our privilege but I think we should

keep our privilege but I think we should we should we should ignore that fear

we should we should ignore that fear

we should we should ignore that fear because when you’re afraid you’re

because when you’re afraid you’re

because when you’re afraid you’re isolated and you’re lonely and you miss

isolated and you’re lonely and you miss

isolated and you’re lonely and you miss out on diversity which is the

out on diversity which is the

out on diversity which is the fundamental social good so I really

fundamental social good so I really

fundamental social good so I really think you need to open a heart and open

think you need to open a heart and open

think you need to open a heart and open our minds and welcoming other people

our minds and welcoming other people

our minds and welcoming other people because frankly is just more joyous

because frankly is just more joyous

because frankly is just more joyous right so if you haven’t yet joined us in

right so if you haven’t yet joined us in

right so if you haven’t yet joined us in the struggle against the border then

the struggle against the border then

the struggle against the border then please do because I guarantee you that

please do because I guarantee you that

please do because I guarantee you that we have the most fun

we have the most fun

we have the most fun [Applause]

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