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Meryem is 7 years old

Meryem is 7 years old she’s a bright and spirited girl she has

she’s a bright and spirited girl she has

she’s a bright and spirited girl she has two brothers and they like to play

two brothers and they like to play

two brothers and they like to play together lots Miriam has dolls she has

together lots Miriam has dolls she has

together lots Miriam has dolls she has doll houses

doll houses

doll houses she has sewing kits and the kitchen

she has sewing kits and the kitchen

she has sewing kits and the kitchen since her brothers have robots they have

since her brothers have robots they have

since her brothers have robots they have construction sets they have very cool

construction sets they have very cool

construction sets they have very cool cars they have video games they like to

cars they have video games they like to

cars they have video games they like to play together but Merriam’s brothers

play together but Merriam’s brothers

play together but Merriam’s brothers absolutely refuse to play with any of

absolutely refuse to play with any of

absolutely refuse to play with any of Miriam’s toys so they always end up

Miriam’s toys so they always end up

Miriam’s toys so they always end up playing with their toys Miriam doesn’t

playing with their toys Miriam doesn’t

playing with their toys Miriam doesn’t mind though in fact she secretly likes

mind though in fact she secretly likes

mind though in fact she secretly likes it she gets higher scores than them on

it she gets higher scores than them on

it she gets higher scores than them on the video games

the video games

the video games she makes crystals from the science kits

she makes crystals from the science kits

she makes crystals from the science kits and uses it to make earrings and

and uses it to make earrings and

and uses it to make earrings and necklaces for herself she builds higher

necklaces for herself she builds higher

necklaces for herself she builds higher towers than they do and her robots can

towers than they do and her robots can

towers than they do and her robots can do far more complex things than theirs

do far more complex things than theirs

do far more complex things than theirs she thinks that maybe when she gets

she thinks that maybe when she gets

she thinks that maybe when she gets older she would like to have a job where

older she would like to have a job where

older she would like to have a job where she can build cool things all day long

she can build cool things all day long

she can build cool things all day long everyone sells Miriam do that she isn’t

everyone sells Miriam do that she isn’t

everyone sells Miriam do that she isn’t ladylike enough that she needs to play

ladylike enough that she needs to play

ladylike enough that she needs to play with more ladylike games

with more ladylike games

with more ladylike games Miriam totally ignores them and

Miriam totally ignores them and

Miriam totally ignores them and continues to play with her brothers but

continues to play with her brothers but

continues to play with her brothers but as time goes on she plays with them less

as time goes on she plays with them less

as time goes on she plays with them less and less until eventually she stops

and less until eventually she stops

and less until eventually she stops playing with them altogether now Miriam

playing with them altogether now Miriam

playing with them altogether now Miriam is 14 years old she still gets good

is 14 years old she still gets good

is 14 years old she still gets good marks in her math science and computer

marks in her math science and computer

marks in her math science and computer classes but Miriam no longer thinks of

classes but Miriam no longer thinks of

classes but Miriam no longer thinks of becoming an engineer a computer

becoming an engineer a computer

becoming an engineer a computer scientist or anything remotely related

scientist or anything remotely related

scientist or anything remotely related to technology Miriam could have come up

to technology Miriam could have come up

to technology Miriam could have come up with an innovation that could save lives

with an innovation that could save lives

with an innovation that could save lives change the world that we live in today

change the world that we live in today

change the world that we live in today make great impacts in the area of

make great impacts in the area of

make great impacts in the area of agriculture health education

but Miriam doesn’t see a place for

but Miriam doesn’t see a place for herself in technology anymore so

herself in technology anymore so

herself in technology anymore so unfortunately we’ll never know the

unfortunately we’ll never know the

unfortunately we’ll never know the fantastic things that Miriam and other

fantastic things that Miriam and other

fantastic things that Miriam and other girls like her could have come up with

girls like her could have come up with

girls like her could have come up with that is the problem in Nigeria

that is the problem in Nigeria

that is the problem in Nigeria and in many parts of the world today

and in many parts of the world today

and in many parts of the world today we’re trying to improve lives of our

we’re trying to improve lives of our

we’re trying to improve lives of our citizens and build up our economies but

citizens and build up our economies but

citizens and build up our economies but we’re only playing with half of our team

uh-huh so these are my parents I grew up

uh-huh so these are my parents I grew up as the daughter of two engineers my

as the daughter of two engineers my

as the daughter of two engineers my father was an electrical engineer and my

father was an electrical engineer and my

father was an electrical engineer and my mother a civil engineer and that’s one

mother a civil engineer and that’s one

mother a civil engineer and that’s one of the issues we have with technology so

of the issues we have with technology so

of the issues we have with technology so my mom was the smartest person that I

my mom was the smartest person that I

my mom was the smartest person that I knew well my dad was well but my mom

knew well my dad was well but my mom

knew well my dad was well but my mom very smart she graduated top of her

very smart she graduated top of her

very smart she graduated top of her class when she studied engineering she

class when she studied engineering she

class when she studied engineering she was one of just two women in a class of

was one of just two women in a class of

was one of just two women in a class of a hundred

a hundred

a hundred she was called back after she graduated

she was called back after she graduated

she was called back after she graduated by her university to start a doctoral

by her university to start a doctoral

by her university to start a doctoral program and she graduated as the first

program and she graduated as the first

program and she graduated as the first Nigerian woman with a PhD in civil

Nigerian woman with a PhD in civil

Nigerian woman with a PhD in civil engineering from a Nigerian versity my

engineering from a Nigerian versity my

engineering from a Nigerian versity my father an electrical engineer he was the

father an electrical engineer he was the

father an electrical engineer he was the ultimate techie

ultimate techie

ultimate techie he was always bringing in one device or

he was always bringing in one device or

he was always bringing in one device or the other we would have like a pacman

the other we would have like a pacman

the other we would have like a pacman game I don’t know how many of you know

game I don’t know how many of you know

game I don’t know how many of you know pac-man Nintendo Gameboy we had our very

pac-man Nintendo Gameboy we had our very

pac-man Nintendo Gameboy we had our very first personal computer with the

first personal computer with the

first personal computer with the earliest version of Windows installed in

earliest version of Windows installed in

earliest version of Windows installed in its then he would gather my siblings and

its then he would gather my siblings and

its then he would gather my siblings and I together so we could on our over the

I together so we could on our over the

I together so we could on our over the Sinise’s device he didn’t discriminate

Sinise’s device he didn’t discriminate

Sinise’s device he didn’t discriminate between his son and his daughters and he

between his son and his daughters and he

between his son and his daughters and he would teach us how to use it I didn’t

would teach us how to use it I didn’t

would teach us how to use it I didn’t really think much of the way my parents

really think much of the way my parents

really think much of the way my parents raised me until I was much older and I

raised me until I was much older and I

raised me until I was much older and I realized that the way they had pushed us

realized that the way they had pushed us

realized that the way they had pushed us and loved us and encouraged us had given

and loved us and encouraged us had given

and loved us and encouraged us had given us wings to fly now I I was good in

us wings to fly now I I was good in

us wings to fly now I I was good in maths and I was I was shy or very quiet

maths and I was I was shy or very quiet

maths and I was I was shy or very quiet I was very analytical I didn’t know

I was very analytical I didn’t know

I was very analytical I didn’t know exactly what I wanted to do as a career

exactly what I wanted to do as a career

exactly what I wanted to do as a career but I I wanted to find my own path in

but I I wanted to find my own path in

but I I wanted to find my own path in life I didn’t want to study engineering

life I didn’t want to study engineering

life I didn’t want to study engineering I didn’t want to be the engineers

I didn’t want to be the engineers

I didn’t want to be the engineers daughter who became an engineer so I

daughter who became an engineer so I

daughter who became an engineer so I studied economics because it would use

studied economics because it would use

studied economics because it would use the maths that I liked so I went on

the maths that I liked so I went on

the maths that I liked so I went on applied for

applied for

applied for degree in economics oh I want to pause

degree in economics oh I want to pause

degree in economics oh I want to pause this okay so before I started University

this okay so before I started University

this okay so before I started University I started I went to computer school and

I started I went to computer school and

I started I went to computer school and that was when I learned how to write

that was when I learned how to write

that was when I learned how to write programs I learned how to code and it

programs I learned how to code and it

programs I learned how to code and it was such an eye-opener because for the

was such an eye-opener because for the

was such an eye-opener because for the first time I could tell a computer what

first time I could tell a computer what

first time I could tell a computer what to do and it was such a thrill then I

to do and it was such a thrill then I

to do and it was such a thrill then I started to get an idea of the power of

started to get an idea of the power of

started to get an idea of the power of computers to change our lives and if

computers to change our lives and if

computers to change our lives and if you’re lucky make some money too so

you’re lucky make some money too so

you’re lucky make some money too so after I finished my degree in economics

after I finished my degree in economics

after I finished my degree in economics I went on for a master’s in information

I went on for a master’s in information

I went on for a master’s in information systems and then a postgraduate

systems and then a postgraduate

systems and then a postgraduate certificate in Applied Sciences when I

certificate in Applied Sciences when I

certificate in Applied Sciences when I was studying I was also volunteering as

was studying I was also volunteering as

was studying I was also volunteering as well I volunteered in women’s shelters

well I volunteered in women’s shelters

well I volunteered in women’s shelters where I was teaching women who had left

where I was teaching women who had left

where I was teaching women who had left abusive relationships and marriages how

abusive relationships and marriages how

abusive relationships and marriages how to use computers basic computer literacy

to use computers basic computer literacy

to use computers basic computer literacy but I saw how they leveraged their new

but I saw how they leveraged their new

but I saw how they leveraged their new skills to get jobs that they previously

skills to get jobs that they previously

skills to get jobs that they previously did not qualify for I saw how they were

did not qualify for I saw how they were

did not qualify for I saw how they were now supporting their families with the

now supporting their families with the

now supporting their families with the money that they were earning so I saw

money that they were earning so I saw

money that they were earning so I saw that technology was truly a bridge with

that technology was truly a bridge with

that technology was truly a bridge with which the disempowered could lift

which the disempowered could lift

which the disempowered could lift themselves out of poverty and

themselves out of poverty and

themselves out of poverty and powerlessness I was very interested in

powerlessness I was very interested in

powerlessness I was very interested in how women in particular could leverage

how women in particular could leverage

how women in particular could leverage technology now so I I was I was

technology now so I I was I was

technology now so I I was I was wondering as I was trying to get more

wondering as I was trying to get more

wondering as I was trying to get more women using technology I realize how few

women using technology I realize how few

women using technology I realize how few women there were who actually creating

women there were who actually creating

women there were who actually creating technology and I wondered why women use

technology and I wondered why women use

technology and I wondered why women use a lot of technology if they have access

a lot of technology if they have access

a lot of technology if they have access to it and they have the time to use it

to it and they have the time to use it

to it and they have the time to use it but a lot of the tools were using

but a lot of the tools were using

but a lot of the tools were using actually developed by men the problem

actually developed by men the problem

actually developed by men the problem starts actually from our education you

starts actually from our education you

starts actually from our education you find that in Nigeria the statistics show

find that in Nigeria the statistics show

find that in Nigeria the statistics show that of the total number of graduates of

that of the total number of graduates of

that of the total number of graduates of engineering and technology each year

engineering and technology each year

engineering and technology each year only 22 percent are women

only 22 percent are women

only 22 percent are women that means that we have only 22% of them

that means that we have only 22% of them

that means that we have only 22% of them going into IT workforce now research

going into IT workforce now research

going into IT workforce now research also shows that within the first 10

also shows that within the first 10

also shows that within the first 10 years of working most of those women the

years of working most of those women the

years of working most of those women the dropouts they leave the workplace that

dropouts they leave the workplace that

dropouts they leave the workplace that means that you have very few women who

means that you have very few women who

means that you have very few women who actually reaching the top in technology

actually reaching the top in technology

actually reaching the top in technology companies so when a girl like Miriam who

companies so when a girl like Miriam who

companies so when a girl like Miriam who we met earlier looks at the technology

we met earlier looks at the technology

we met earlier looks at the technology landscape she doesn’t see anyone who

landscape she doesn’t see anyone who

landscape she doesn’t see anyone who looks like her and she feels that there

looks like her and she feels that there

looks like her and she feels that there is not a place for me in technology the

is not a place for me in technology the

is not a place for me in technology the research actually backs this up it shows

research actually backs this up it shows

research actually backs this up it shows that up to the age of 11 to 12 girls are

that up to the age of 11 to 12 girls are

that up to the age of 11 to 12 girls are interested in boys in technology in

interested in boys in technology in

interested in boys in technology in maths and Sciences but something happens

maths and Sciences but something happens

maths and Sciences but something happens after that that is when they actually

after that that is when they actually

after that that is when they actually starts to take in the messages that

starts to take in the messages that

starts to take in the messages that society is sending them that technology

society is sending them that technology

society is sending them that technology is not for you so one thing that I do is

is not for you so one thing that I do is

is not for you so one thing that I do is I try to attract more girls into

I try to attract more girls into

I try to attract more girls into technology I do this by organizing

technology I do this by organizing

technology I do this by organizing technology camps residential camps

technology camps residential camps

technology camps residential camps after-school clubs we found over the

after-school clubs we found over the

after-school clubs we found over the years about 36 percent of the girls

years about 36 percent of the girls

years about 36 percent of the girls we’ve worked with are actually going in

we’ve worked with are actually going in

we’ve worked with are actually going in for Science and Technology degrees I

for Science and Technology degrees I

for Science and Technology degrees I admit that I was hoping to see big and

admit that I was hoping to see big and

admit that I was hoping to see big and faster results but making change takes

faster results but making change takes

faster results but making change takes time we found that there are five things

time we found that there are five things

time we found that there are five things that you need to do I mean to make

that you need to do I mean to make

that you need to do I mean to make technology more accessible for young

technology more accessible for young

technology more accessible for young girls number one you need to start early

girls number one you need to start early

girls number one you need to start early if you want to change mindsets you need

if you want to change mindsets you need

if you want to change mindsets you need to start early so we started working

to start early so we started working

to start early so we started working with girls who are age 11 but we’ve

with girls who are age 11 but we’ve

with girls who are age 11 but we’ve since expanded through primary school

since expanded through primary school

since expanded through primary school you need to make your classes you need

you need to make your classes you need

you need to make your classes you need to make them fun and engaging and show

to make them fun and engaging and show

to make them fun and engaging and show girls that they can actually be

girls that they can actually be

girls that they can actually be technology creates us not just users

technology creates us not just users

technology creates us not just users find out what they’re interested in when

find out what they’re interested in when

find out what they’re interested in when you find out what you’re interested in

you find out what you’re interested in

you find out what you’re interested in then you can actually tie that in with

then you can actually tie that in with

then you can actually tie that in with technology and let them see how they can

technology and let them see how they can

technology and let them see how they can their they can develop something online

their they can develop something online

their they can develop something online through their interest so we had a group

through their interest so we had a group

through their interest so we had a group of girls for instance who creates it and

of girls for instance who creates it and

of girls for instance who creates it and app so give fashion advice based on

app so give fashion advice based on

app so give fashion advice based on different body types we had another

different body types we had another

different body types we had another group of girls who created an app see

group of girls who created an app see

group of girls who created an app see reports incidences of rape and sexual

reports incidences of rape and sexual

reports incidences of rape and sexual violence because that was something that

violence because that was something that

violence because that was something that they had personal experiences with then

they had personal experiences with then

they had personal experiences with then the second thing is that ideally make

the second thing is that ideally make

the second thing is that ideally make the classes of the sessions female only

the classes of the sessions female only

the classes of the sessions female only I know that we don’t live in a world

I know that we don’t live in a world

I know that we don’t live in a world that is filled with just women but the

that is filled with just women but the

that is filled with just women but the research has also shown that for girls

research has also shown that for girls

research has also shown that for girls especially girls of a certain age they

especially girls of a certain age they

especially girls of a certain age they feel more comfortable when they’re among

feel more comfortable when they’re among

feel more comfortable when they’re among all the girls and I’m sure a lot of the

all the girls and I’m sure a lot of the

all the girls and I’m sure a lot of the women can relate

women can relate

women can relate you can make your mistakes you can ask

you can make your mistakes you can ask

you can make your mistakes you can ask your questions without worrying about

your questions without worrying about

your questions without worrying about how you look in front of others the

how you look in front of others the

how you look in front of others the third point is that you need to connect

third point is that you need to connect

third point is that you need to connect the girls with menses positive female

the girls with menses positive female

the girls with menses positive female role models if a girl like Miriam had

role models if a girl like Miriam had

role models if a girl like Miriam had looked out and seen a woman working in

looked out and seen a woman working in

looked out and seen a woman working in technology she could have thought yeah

technology she could have thought yeah

technology she could have thought yeah this is something for me this is

this is something for me this is

this is something for me this is something that I can do the fourth

something that I can do the fourth

something that I can do the fourth points that we realized is that we need

points that we realized is that we need

points that we realized is that we need to build a community of intelligent

to build a community of intelligent

to build a community of intelligent ambitious women who can support each

ambitious women who can support each

ambitious women who can support each other and I feel that’s also part of

other and I feel that’s also part of

other and I feel that’s also part of what this platform is all about because

what this platform is all about because

what this platform is all about because even though they’re men and women here

even though they’re men and women here

even though they’re men and women here we’re a community of people who are

we’re a community of people who are

we’re a community of people who are supporting each other we are telling our

supporting each other we are telling our

supporting each other we are telling our stories and where we are here to share

stories and where we are here to share

stories and where we are here to share and help each other in whatever way we

and help each other in whatever way we

and help each other in whatever way we can

can

can and same thing with the girls it’s very

and same thing with the girls it’s very

and same thing with the girls it’s very important

important

important this is particularly crucial because if

this is particularly crucial because if

this is particularly crucial because if you want to close a gap it’s not just

you want to close a gap it’s not just

you want to close a gap it’s not just enough to attract more girls to say oh I

enough to attract more girls to say oh I

enough to attract more girls to say oh I think I’d like to study technology or

think I’d like to study technology or

think I’d like to study technology or computer science you need to actually

computer science you need to actually

computer science you need to actually keep them in the field they need to stay

keep them in the field they need to stay

keep them in the field they need to stay the course a woman who is in technology

the course a woman who is in technology

the course a woman who is in technology is usually the only woman in her class

is usually the only woman in her class

is usually the only woman in her class in her team and her departments maybe

in her team and her departments maybe

in her team and her departments maybe even in her company so they need to be

even in her company so they need to be

even in her company so they need to be able to connect with other women and

able to connect with other women and

able to connect with other women and supportive men who have had like

supportive men who have had like

supportive men who have had like successful careers so they can say okay

successful careers so they can say okay

successful careers so they can say okay it’s possible it’s doable I can do this

it’s possible it’s doable I can do this

it’s possible it’s doable I can do this if they can do it soon and then one the

if they can do it soon and then one the

if they can do it soon and then one the fifth strategy that we found out is that

fifth strategy that we found out is that

fifth strategy that we found out is that it’s important to connect

it’s important to connect

it’s important to connect with work experience so that they can

with work experience so that they can

with work experience so that they can see that what they’re learning is not

see that what they’re learning is not

see that what they’re learning is not just book knowledge but is actually

just book knowledge but is actually

just book knowledge but is actually solving real problems this is Sophia she

solving real problems this is Sophia she

solving real problems this is Sophia she attended a technology camp that we

attended a technology camp that we

attended a technology camp that we organized when she was 13 years old at

organized when she was 13 years old at

organized when she was 13 years old at the time she had just a passing interest

the time she had just a passing interest

the time she had just a passing interest in technology but afterwards she was so

in technology but afterwards she was so

in technology but afterwards she was so fired up that she came returned and she

fired up that she came returned and she

fired up that she came returned and she was out teaching girls to design

was out teaching girls to design

was out teaching girls to design websites to build games and create

websites to build games and create

websites to build games and create mobile apps

mobile apps

mobile apps this is delaqua she attended the camp

this is delaqua she attended the camp

this is delaqua she attended the camp when she was 12 pretty young she was

when she was 12 pretty young she was

when she was 12 pretty young she was throwing this picture and she also came

throwing this picture and she also came

throwing this picture and she also came back and was she returned to further

back and was she returned to further

back and was she returned to further editions of the camp to teach girls they

editions of the camp to teach girls they

editions of the camp to teach girls they both gave back today dalek was studying

both gave back today dalek was studying

both gave back today dalek was studying medicine with a minor in computer

medicine with a minor in computer

medicine with a minor in computer science and Sophia’s is studying

science and Sophia’s is studying

science and Sophia’s is studying computer science at legal State

computer science at legal State

computer science at legal State University I’m happy that both of them

University I’m happy that both of them

University I’m happy that both of them have committed to a career in technology

have committed to a career in technology

have committed to a career in technology but they still have a long road ahead

but they still have a long road ahead

but they still have a long road ahead and if the road ahead that is much

and if the road ahead that is much

and if the road ahead that is much harder if we want to close this gap I

harder if we want to close this gap I

harder if we want to close this gap I think that first spark of interest is

think that first spark of interest is

think that first spark of interest is good but we need to follow it up by

good but we need to follow it up by

good but we need to follow it up by showing girls that they truly do have a

showing girls that they truly do have a

showing girls that they truly do have a place in technology and we need to hold

place in technology and we need to hold

place in technology and we need to hold their hand and support them for as long

their hand and support them for as long

their hand and support them for as long as they need it so parents I would say

as they need it so parents I would say

as they need it so parents I would say don’t shower your girls with gifts of

don’t shower your girls with gifts of

don’t shower your girls with gifts of dolls and kitchen sets while you let

dolls and kitchen sets while you let

dolls and kitchen sets while you let your sons have the very cool gifts of

your sons have the very cool gifts of

your sons have the very cool gifts of robots and toy cars you can give your

robots and toy cars you can give your

robots and toy cars you can give your daughters the dolls and the robots

daughters the dolls and the robots

daughters the dolls and the robots because if you give her only the dolls

because if you give her only the dolls

because if you give her only the dolls and the kitchen sets what you’re telling

and the kitchen sets what you’re telling

and the kitchen sets what you’re telling her is that her future options are

her is that her future options are

her is that her future options are limited to cooking and caring for others

so this is my daughter

so this is my daughter wammy she’s two years old anyone who

wammy she’s two years old anyone who

wammy she’s two years old anyone who knows had news that she’s boy

knows had news that she’s boy

knows had news that she’s boy old she’s audacious she is she’s very

old she’s audacious she is she’s very

old she’s audacious she is she’s very very smart and she’s inquisitive those

very smart and she’s inquisitive those

very smart and she’s inquisitive those are all good characteristics to do well

are all good characteristics to do well

are all good characteristics to do well in technology right now as you can see

in technology right now as you can see

in technology right now as you can see she’s already a lover of technology

she’s already a lover of technology

she’s already a lover of technology she likes to take my phone and my

she likes to take my phone and my

she likes to take my phone and my tablets but she is still just a user of

tablets but she is still just a user of

tablets but she is still just a user of technology but you can be sure that

technology but you can be sure that

technology but you can be sure that knowing what I know and the experiences

knowing what I know and the experiences

knowing what I know and the experiences that I’ve had I’m going to encourage her

that I’ve had I’m going to encourage her

that I’ve had I’m going to encourage her to learn how to code create and to build

to learn how to code create and to build

to learn how to code create and to build technology I want mommy Miriam and all

technology I want mommy Miriam and all

technology I want mommy Miriam and all other girls like her who likes to use

other girls like her who likes to use

other girls like her who likes to use technology who are interested maybe in

technology who are interested maybe in

technology who are interested maybe in math and sciences to keep up that love

math and sciences to keep up that love

math and sciences to keep up that love and hopefully in the future they can

and hopefully in the future they can

and hopefully in the future they can join a generation of women who are

join a generation of women who are

join a generation of women who are creating innovation that’s changing

creating innovation that’s changing

creating innovation that’s changing lives I would like all of us to work

lives I would like all of us to work

lives I would like all of us to work together to build a bridge where we can

together to build a bridge where we can

together to build a bridge where we can see a future that men and women are

see a future that men and women are

see a future that men and women are working together and are equal players

working together and are equal players

working together and are equal players in technology thank you

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