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When We Teach Writing, We Teach Empathy: An Interview with | Sandra Gould Ford | TEDxPittsburghWomen


[Applause]

[Applause] so let me give it up to this sister who

so let me give it up to this sister who

so let me give it up to this sister who how many of you have somebody in your

how many of you have somebody in your

how many of you have somebody in your life or know people that as soon as they

life or know people that as soon as they

life or know people that as soon as they get up in the morning and then I don’t

get up in the morning and then I don’t

get up in the morning and then I don’t know 12 14 16 hours later are still

know 12 14 16 hours later are still

know 12 14 16 hours later are still going how many of you that’s his sister

going how many of you that’s his sister

going how many of you that’s his sister were you like I didn’t I’m not doing

were you like I didn’t I’m not doing

were you like I didn’t I’m not doing enough with my life so thank you so I

enough with my life so thank you so I

enough with my life so thank you so I want to talk about your work is that

want to talk about your work is that

want to talk about your work is that cool that’s wonderful I’m excited it’s

cool that’s wonderful I’m excited it’s

cool that’s wonderful I’m excited it’s been nice to get to know you

been nice to get to know you

been nice to get to know you thank you I knew to thank your sister so

thank you I knew to thank your sister so

thank you I knew to thank your sister so we’re actually not gonna talk about your

we’re actually not gonna talk about your

we’re actually not gonna talk about your exhibit but I think everybody should go

exhibit but I think everybody should go

exhibit but I think everybody should go and see the work in that exhibit because

and see the work in that exhibit because

and see the work in that exhibit because what you did and for all of us is that

what you did and for all of us is that

what you did and for all of us is that Latoya Ruby Frazier was inspired by you

Latoya Ruby Frazier was inspired by you

Latoya Ruby Frazier was inspired by you she had you on her mind for two years

she had you on her mind for two years

she had you on her mind for two years right to do this work but I want to go

right to do this work but I want to go

right to do this work but I want to go back a little bit in time and talk about

back a little bit in time and talk about

back a little bit in time and talk about what you were doing in jail yeah I was

what you were doing in jail yeah I was

what you were doing in jail yeah I was in the Allegheny County Jail for five

in the Allegheny County Jail for five

in the Allegheny County Jail for five years and that came about because I went

years and that came about because I went

years and that came about because I went to a community meeting in Homewood and

to a community meeting in Homewood and

to a community meeting in Homewood and Homewood is a neighborhood in the city

Homewood is a neighborhood in the city

Homewood is a neighborhood in the city of Pittsburgh it’s about five miles east

of Pittsburgh it’s about five miles east

of Pittsburgh it’s about five miles east of the city center it’s a low-income

of the city center it’s a low-income

of the city center it’s a low-income predominantly black neighborhood that in

predominantly black neighborhood that in

predominantly black neighborhood that in the 1990s became gang infested with

the 1990s became gang infested with

the 1990s became gang infested with related violence and crime and that I

related violence and crime and that I

related violence and crime and that I had always admired the work of authors

had always admired the work of authors

had always admired the work of authors like Wally Liam and Sonia Sanchez and

like Wally Liam and Sonia Sanchez and

like Wally Liam and Sonia Sanchez and others who went into the prisons and

others who went into the prisons and

others who went into the prisons and taught creative writing so when I went

taught creative writing so when I went

taught creative writing so when I went to this community meeting and the

to this community meeting and the

to this community meeting and the community was saying we need jobs we

community was saying we need jobs we

community was saying we need jobs we need safety we need police protection

need safety we need police protection

need safety we need police protection we need income opportunity

we need income opportunity

we need income opportunity a young man who was about 25 I’d say

a young man who was about 25 I’d say

a young man who was about 25 I’d say stood up and said I can’t get a job it’s

stood up and said I can’t get a job it’s

stood up and said I can’t get a job it’s 25 I’m a convicted felon and anytime I

25 I’m a convicted felon and anytime I

25 I’m a convicted felon and anytime I go to look for a job I have to check

go to look for a job I have to check

go to look for a job I have to check that box on the employment application

that box on the employment application

that box on the employment application my opportunities go away and I thought

my opportunities go away and I thought

my opportunities go away and I thought to myself but if you are self-employed

to myself but if you are self-employed

to myself but if you are self-employed you wouldn’t have to check a box and

you wouldn’t have to check a box and

you wouldn’t have to check a box and many writers are self-employed

many writers are self-employed

many writers are self-employed freelancers so I says okay I’m going to

freelancers so I says okay I’m going to

freelancers so I says okay I’m going to go down and see if I can teach creative

go down and see if I can teach creative

go down and see if I can teach creative writing at the Allegheny County Jail

yeah this isn’t an image of the bridge

yeah this isn’t an image of the bridge that goes from the Allegheny County

that goes from the Allegheny County

that goes from the Allegheny County Courthouse to where the jail the

Courthouse to where the jail the

Courthouse to where the jail the building where people have been housed

building where people have been housed

building where people have been housed in the jail for a century and my thought

in the jail for a century and my thought

in the jail for a century and my thought was flip this photograph and instead of

was flip this photograph and instead of

was flip this photograph and instead of going down into the jail how about

going down into the jail how about

going down into the jail how about taking the people who’ve been convicted

taking the people who’ve been convicted

taking the people who’ve been convicted and going up you know offering

and going up you know offering

and going up you know offering opportunities to improve to to have

opportunities to improve to to have

opportunities to improve to to have better lives to serve their time for

better lives to serve their time for

better lives to serve their time for whatever crimes that they did but when

whatever crimes that they did but when

whatever crimes that they did but when they come out what kind of people are

they come out what kind of people are

they come out what kind of people are they going to be so you know you have to

they going to be so you know you have to

they going to be so you know you have to make me a believer about perhaps others

make me a believer about perhaps others

make me a believer about perhaps others how many of you think that the creative

how many of you think that the creative

how many of you think that the creative arts can help reduce recidivism people

arts can help reduce recidivism people

arts can help reduce recidivism people returning back to prison just raise your

returning back to prison just raise your

returning back to prison just raise your hand all right

hand all right

hand all right there are a lot of moles that you

there are a lot of moles that you

there are a lot of moles that you planted in this class

so tell me what its what’s resonating in

so tell me what its what’s resonating in the community why do you think the

the community why do you think the

the community why do you think the creative arts can do that what they

creative arts can do that what they

creative arts can do that what they found is that when people who are

found is that when people who are

found is that when people who are incarcerated have arts programs

incarcerated have arts programs

incarcerated have arts programs available to them and especially

available to them and especially

available to them and especially creative writing they have to empathize

creative writing they have to empathize

creative writing they have to empathize and many people haven’t done that they

and many people haven’t done that they

and many people haven’t done that they committed the crimes they’ve stolen they

committed the crimes they’ve stolen they

committed the crimes they’ve stolen they probably whatever they’ve done because

probably whatever they’ve done because

probably whatever they’ve done because they weren’t really feeling for the

they weren’t really feeling for the

they weren’t really feeling for the other people but when you write a story

other people but when you write a story

other people but when you write a story and that characters are going to come

and that characters are going to come

and that characters are going to come true

true

true you’ve got to step into those other

you’ve got to step into those other

you’ve got to step into those other characters and understand what’s what

characters and understand what’s what

characters and understand what’s what they’re like which is an aspect of

they’re like which is an aspect of

they’re like which is an aspect of penance which is the root of the word

penance which is the root of the word

penance which is the root of the word penitentiary is that you understand what

penitentiary is that you understand what

penitentiary is that you understand what other people are going through and what

other people are going through and what

other people are going through and what you have done to them what you could do

you have done to them what you could do

you have done to them what you could do to them so as a result the state of

to them so as a result the state of

to them so as a result the state of California has done the research as have

California has done the research as have

California has done the research as have other states and found that over

other states and found that over

other states and found that over seven-year period people who committed

seven-year period people who committed

seven-year period people who committed who were released from jail did not come

who were released from jail did not come

who were released from jail did not come back and the rate of recidivism where

back and the rate of recidivism where

back and the rate of recidivism where people do come back got lower and lower

people do come back got lower and lower

people do come back got lower and lower the longer these people were out so in

the longer these people were out so in

the longer these people were out so in the land of the free we have one of the

the land of the free we have one of the

the land of the free we have one of the largest population of prisoners in the

largest population of prisoners in the

largest population of prisoners in the world yeah and not just looking at that

world yeah and not just looking at that

world yeah and not just looking at that number but you also talk about this idea

number but you also talk about this idea

number but you also talk about this idea about the collateral damage of

about the collateral damage of

about the collateral damage of incarceration can you say more about

incarceration can you say more about

incarceration can you say more about that right this picture says it all it’s

that right this picture says it all it’s

that right this picture says it all it’s a not just that a man or a woman goes to

a not just that a man or a woman goes to

a not just that a man or a woman goes to jail or prison their children their

jail or prison their children their

jail or prison their children their families even the community is affected

families even the community is affected

families even the community is affected and although we might think while the

and although we might think while the

and although we might think while the community is better off with them locked

community is better off with them locked

community is better off with them locked up the community also suffers a loss the

up the community also suffers a loss the

up the community also suffers a loss the family suffers a loss and what they

family suffers a loss and what they

family suffers a loss and what they found

found

found is the children of people who’ve been

is the children of people who’ve been

is the children of people who’ve been incarcerated have a higher likelihood of

incarcerated have a higher likelihood of

incarcerated have a higher likelihood of becoming offenders as an adult than the

becoming offenders as an adult than the

becoming offenders as an adult than the regular population

regular population

regular population what kind of genres of writing did you

what kind of genres of writing did you

what kind of genres of writing did you have in prison because I I see in you

have in prison because I I see in you

have in prison because I I see in you know some of the slides that are some

know some of the slides that are some

know some of the slides that are some makeup or maîtrise so you did some work

makeup or maîtrise so you did some work

makeup or maîtrise so you did some work in Westinghouse High School you talked

in Westinghouse High School you talked

in Westinghouse High School you talked about some of these personal what kind

about some of these personal what kind

about some of these personal what kind of work did you do I know you were

of work did you do I know you were

of work did you do I know you were talking about some of the works of the

talking about some of the works of the

talking about some of the works of the pieces that you wrote yeah or not just

pieces that you wrote yeah or not just

pieces that you wrote yeah or not just you wrote with the community of writers

you wrote with the community of writers

you wrote with the community of writers right but when I went in and bamm-bamm

right but when I went in and bamm-bamm

right but when I went in and bamm-bamm let me end my goal is to teach poetry

let me end my goal is to teach poetry

let me end my goal is to teach poetry fiction and say a memoir and by learning

fiction and say a memoir and by learning

fiction and say a memoir and by learning the rules conforming to the rules

the rules conforming to the rules

the rules conforming to the rules required of writing according to those

required of writing according to those

required of writing according to those different styles their reward would be

different styles their reward would be

different styles their reward would be that they would be published and the

that they would be published and the

that they would be published and the very first book that we did when I first

very first book that we did when I first

very first book that we did when I first went to the jail I refused to work with

went to the jail I refused to work with

went to the jail I refused to work with the men I’d seen several documentaries

the men I’d seen several documentaries

the men I’d seen several documentaries and scared the daylights out of me

and scared the daylights out of me

and scared the daylights out of me around so and then I get in there and

around so and then I get in there and

around so and then I get in there and the guys are all over the place walking

the guys are all over the place walking

the guys are all over the place walking through the halls and everything smiling

through the halls and everything smiling

through the halls and everything smiling how you doing miss I knew some of them

so one guy came in my class one day and

so one guy came in my class one day and said I know where you live

said I know where you live

said I know where you live you’re across the street from my cousin

you’re across the street from my cousin

you’re across the street from my cousin yeah so um so in this class with the

yeah so um so in this class with the

yeah so um so in this class with the ladies they were always willing but one

ladies they were always willing but one

ladies they were always willing but one day after I’ve been teaching the class

day after I’ve been teaching the class

day after I’ve been teaching the class for about four weeks they came in and

for about four weeks they came in and

for about four weeks they came in and they all came in down slumped he says

they all came in down slumped he says

they all came in down slumped he says what’s going on and they said miss

what’s going on and they said miss

what’s going on and they said miss Sandra I was gonna want to read anything

Sandra I was gonna want to read anything

Sandra I was gonna want to read anything we have to write and so we had to have a

we have to write and so we had to have a

we have to write and so we had to have a conversation first was to get over this

conversation first was to get over this

conversation first was to get over this concept that when you write it’s going

concept that when you write it’s going

concept that when you write it’s going to be right the first time you write it

to be right the first time you write it

to be right the first time you write it so we had to clear up the notion that

so we had to clear up the notion that

so we had to clear up the notion that everybody’s first draft is crappy Toni

everybody’s first draft is crappy Toni

everybody’s first draft is crappy Toni Morrison no ever you know it’s crappy

Morrison no ever you know it’s crappy

Morrison no ever you know it’s crappy the second was the concept that have you

the second was the concept that have you

the second was the concept that have you ever heard that a diamond is just a

ever heard that a diamond is just a

ever heard that a diamond is just a chunk of coal that made good under

chunk of coal that made good under

chunk of coal that made good under pressure and so as they’re sitting there

pressure and so as they’re sitting there

pressure and so as they’re sitting there thinking of themselves perhaps as chunks

thinking of themselves perhaps as chunks

thinking of themselves perhaps as chunks of coal I says yeah but under pressure

of coal I says yeah but under pressure

of coal I says yeah but under pressure that coal can become a diamond and one

that coal can become a diamond and one

that coal can become a diamond and one of the lady says you know what miss

of the lady says you know what miss

of the lady says you know what miss Sandra

Sandra

Sandra we’re diamonds in the rough that’s gonna

we’re diamonds in the rough that’s gonna

we’re diamonds in the rough that’s gonna be the name of our book and everything

be the name of our book and everything

be the name of our book and everything sales from then on we once I started

sales from then on we once I started

sales from then on we once I started working with the guys you know they had

working with the guys you know they had

working with the guys you know they had to meet strict requirements they would

to meet strict requirements they would

to meet strict requirements they would not be published just because they were

not be published just because they were

not be published just because they were in the class we’ve all had experiences

in the class we’ve all had experiences

in the class we’ve all had experiences like that in high school

like that in high school

like that in high school no there were you had to write polish

no there were you had to write polish

no there were you had to write polish edit proofread we handled it just as

edit proofread we handled it just as

edit proofread we handled it just as though they were going to submit that

though they were going to submit that

though they were going to submit that work to The New Yorker or the Missouri

work to The New Yorker or the Missouri

work to The New Yorker or the Missouri review or the Atlantic they earned their

review or the Atlantic they earned their

review or the Atlantic they earned their right to be in there which also was

right to be in there which also was

right to be in there which also was stimulating part of this involves the

stimulating part of this involves the

stimulating part of this involves the fact of what happened

fact of what happened

fact of what happened when people are intellectually

when people are intellectually

when people are intellectually stimulated which was one of the amazing

stimulated which was one of the amazing

stimulated which was one of the amazing things I found with when I was started

things I found with when I was started

things I found with when I was started working with incarcerated populations

working with incarcerated populations

working with incarcerated populations the first time was with young men who

the first time was with young men who

the first time was with young men who were juveniles who were sentenced to the

were juveniles who were sentenced to the

were juveniles who were sentenced to the Abraxas Academy in lieu of being sent to

Abraxas Academy in lieu of being sent to

Abraxas Academy in lieu of being sent to a corrections Detention Center and not

a corrections Detention Center and not

a corrections Detention Center and not going there with these young criminals

going there with these young criminals

going there with these young criminals and they’re marvelous they’re marvelous

and they’re marvelous they’re marvelous

and they’re marvelous they’re marvelous I was teaching them photography and they

I was teaching them photography and they

I was teaching them photography and they were so eager to do the creative

were so eager to do the creative

were so eager to do the creative problem-solving saying let’s figure out

problem-solving saying let’s figure out

problem-solving saying let’s figure out how we light this let’s figure out how

how we light this let’s figure out how

how we light this let’s figure out how we work with this chemistry let’s figure

we work with this chemistry let’s figure

we work with this chemistry let’s figure out how we exposed these cameras and

out how we exposed these cameras and

out how we exposed these cameras and that’s when I first realized it’s the

that’s when I first realized it’s the

that’s when I first realized it’s the intellectual stimulation it’s the

intellectual stimulation it’s the

intellectual stimulation it’s the creative problem-solving positively

creative problem-solving positively

creative problem-solving positively applied that makes a difference then I

applied that makes a difference then I

applied that makes a difference then I went on to Westinghouse which was in

went on to Westinghouse which was in

went on to Westinghouse which was in chaos at that time Westinghouse High

chaos at that time Westinghouse High

chaos at that time Westinghouse High School in Homewood at least one student

School in Homewood at least one student

School in Homewood at least one student in my class was a gang member I knew he

in my class was a gang member I knew he

in my class was a gang member I knew he was and he was a leader he was

was and he was a leader he was

was and he was a leader he was belligerent

belligerent

belligerent he was tough but when I gave the class a

he was tough but when I gave the class a

he was tough but when I gave the class a word game challenge boggle he passed out

word game challenge boggle he passed out

word game challenge boggle he passed out dictionaries and says we’re gonna do

dictionaries and says we’re gonna do

dictionaries and says we’re gonna do this it was the intellectual challenge

this it was the intellectual challenge

this it was the intellectual challenge the intellectual stimulation of the same

the intellectual stimulation of the same

the intellectual stimulation of the same thing happened here and everybody

thing happened here and everybody

thing happened here and everybody listened to him when he said go get

listened to him when he said go get

listened to him when he said go get boggle yes oh yes a new superpower so if

boggle yes oh yes a new superpower so if

boggle yes oh yes a new superpower so if I want to finish this sentence as we

I want to finish this sentence as we

I want to finish this sentence as we kind of bring this to a close and then

kind of bring this to a close and then

kind of bring this to a close and then also connect this work to how this has

also connect this work to how this has

also connect this work to how this has manifested in the future with some of

manifested in the future with some of

manifested in the future with some of your students but if someone were to say

your students but if someone were to say

your students but if someone were to say why should my tax dollars go to pay for

why should my tax dollars go to pay for

why should my tax dollars go to pay for a criminal’s creative writing process or

a criminal’s creative writing process or

a criminal’s creative writing process or creative arts you would say because it

creative arts you would say because it

creative arts you would say because it makes the world a better place and a

makes the world a better place and a

makes the world a better place and a safer place the very reason you want

safer place the very reason you want

safer place the very reason you want these people in prison is so that

these people in prison is so that

these people in prison is so that society is safer but 95% of the people

society is safer but 95% of the people

society is safer but 95% of the people who go to prisons will be released one

who go to prisons will be released one

who go to prisons will be released one day

day

day and how do we want them to come out

and how do we want them to come out

and how do we want them to come out bitter angry criminal behavior

bitter angry criminal behavior

bitter angry criminal behavior reinforced by associations or do we want

reinforced by associations or do we want

reinforced by associations or do we want these people to come out with a sense of

these people to come out with a sense of

these people to come out with a sense of purpose and hope and maybe there’s

purpose and hope and maybe there’s

purpose and hope and maybe there’s something I can do their humanity has

something I can do their humanity has

something I can do their humanity has been maintained through empathy in the

been maintained through empathy in the

been maintained through empathy in the process of penance so what do we want

process of penance so what do we want

process of penance so what do we want our prisons to do and our jails to do

our prisons to do and our jails to do

our prisons to do and our jails to do what do we want them to build bridges to

what do we want them to build bridges to

what do we want them to build bridges to and here you have examples of how some

and here you have examples of how some

and here you have examples of how some of my students felt about the

of my students felt about the

of my students felt about the opportunities that they have

opportunities that they have

opportunities that they have thank you sister thank you for your work

[Music]

[Music] might we all be part of a lineage right

might we all be part of a lineage right

might we all be part of a lineage right we all are a part of a lineage of

we all are a part of a lineage of

we all are a part of a lineage of sharing our work and what does that mean

sharing our work and what does that mean

sharing our work and what does that mean and you did this work five or six years

and you did this work five or six years

and you did this work five or six years ago yes I at the end of I did I was in

ago yes I at the end of I did I was in

ago yes I at the end of I did I was in the jail from 2004 to 2010 at that point

the jail from 2004 to 2010 at that point

the jail from 2004 to 2010 at that point I gifted the program to Chatham

I gifted the program to Chatham

I gifted the program to Chatham University they were looking for an

University they were looking for an

University they were looking for an opportunity to get into Corrections I

opportunity to get into Corrections I

opportunity to get into Corrections I was leaving I had promised to go I

was leaving I had promised to go I

was leaving I had promised to go I promised to go to jail for five years

promised to go to jail for five years

promised to go to jail for five years they let me keep coming back coming back

they let me keep coming back coming back

they let me keep coming back coming back for five years

for five years

for five years Chatham has taken up the program their

Chatham has taken up the program their

Chatham has taken up the program their graduate writing program under Cheryl

graduate writing program under Cheryl

graduate writing program under Cheryl st. Germain has taken this up carried it

st. Germain has taken this up carried it

st. Germain has taken this up carried it forward and are doing a wonderful job

forward and are doing a wonderful job

forward and are doing a wonderful job and I hope that other others continue to

and I hope that other others continue to

and I hope that other others continue to do the same as inspired in the beginning

do the same as inspired in the beginning

do the same as inspired in the beginning by people like Wally Lamb and Sonia

by people like Wally Lamb and Sonia

by people like Wally Lamb and Sonia Sanchez and the other great writers

Sanchez and the other great writers

Sanchez and the other great writers beautiful so there is a lineage holder

beautiful so there is a lineage holder

beautiful so there is a lineage holder here of this work and that is Eric Boyd

here of this work and that is Eric Boyd

here of this work and that is Eric Boyd so I’m gonna step off the stage okay and

so I’m gonna step off the stage okay and

so I’m gonna step off the stage okay and why don’t you bring that brother forward

why don’t you bring that brother forward

why don’t you bring that brother forward to share his word gladly all right in

to share his word gladly all right in

to share his word gladly all right in fact Eric’s signature is on here the

fact Eric’s signature is on here the

fact Eric’s signature is on here the thank you for everything and Eric was

thank you for everything and Eric was

thank you for everything and Eric was one of my students and I’m endlessly

one of my students and I’m endlessly

one of my students and I’m endlessly proud of him as a talent and and what

proud of him as a talent and and what

proud of him as a talent and and what he’s doing with his work and this is the

he’s doing with his work and this is the

he’s doing with his work and this is the real treat

thank you

thank you [Music]

before I get started two things one I

before I get started two things one I know you gave her two rounds of applause

know you gave her two rounds of applause

know you gave her two rounds of applause hear me 1/2 a woman you gave her one and

hear me 1/2 a woman you gave her one and

hear me 1/2 a woman you gave her one and a half rounds of applause I I wouldn’t

a half rounds of applause I I wouldn’t

a half rounds of applause I I wouldn’t be here tonight

be here tonight

be here tonight whether on this stage or possibly in

whether on this stage or possibly in

whether on this stage or possibly in this situation at all

this situation at all

this situation at all if it weren’t for this woman so I’d

if it weren’t for this woman so I’d

if it weren’t for this woman so I’d really like another round of

and Eric Eric made it all worthwhile

and Eric Eric made it all worthwhile thank you today I’m going to share a

thank you today I’m going to share a

thank you today I’m going to share a well a truncated version of an excerpt

well a truncated version of an excerpt

well a truncated version of an excerpt of a novel that I’m starting so in the

of a novel that I’m starting so in the

of a novel that I’m starting so in the scheme of things that’s you know a drop

scheme of things that’s you know a drop

scheme of things that’s you know a drop but if any of you like the truncated

but if any of you like the truncated

but if any of you like the truncated version of the excerpt but there are

version of the excerpt but there are

version of the excerpt but there are full versions of that excerpt under your

full versions of that excerpt under your

full versions of that excerpt under your chairs if you haven’t seen them already

chairs if you haven’t seen them already

chairs if you haven’t seen them already and thank you to CDI printing for making

and thank you to CDI printing for making

and thank you to CDI printing for making them aka my mother who works there thank

them aka my mother who works there thank

them aka my mother who works there thank you mom

you mom

you mom [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] [Music]

the red bridge motel I’m in a motel and

the red bridge motel I’m in a motel and Kansas City taking a shower which I’ve

Kansas City taking a shower which I’ve

Kansas City taking a shower which I’ve barely done since I started train

barely done since I started train

barely done since I started train hopping the manager I’ve been

hopping the manager I’ve been

hopping the manager I’ve been suspiciously but his idea of a single

suspiciously but his idea of a single

suspiciously but his idea of a single girl checking into a room is probably

girl checking into a room is probably

girl checking into a room is probably she’s somebody’s mistress or worse but

she’s somebody’s mistress or worse but

she’s somebody’s mistress or worse but still that’s better insane

still that’s better insane

still that’s better insane hi I’m Farah I’m basically a hobo and

hi I’m Farah I’m basically a hobo and

hi I’m Farah I’m basically a hobo and I’m getting a room to meet another girl

I’m getting a room to meet another girl

I’m getting a room to meet another girl tonight in the shower the water is so

tonight in the shower the water is so

tonight in the shower the water is so hot that the last few hundred miles melt

hot that the last few hundred miles melt

hot that the last few hundred miles melt off of me I sent in the tub tuck my

off of me I sent in the tub tuck my

off of me I sent in the tub tuck my knees up and rest my head letting the

knees up and rest my head letting the

knees up and rest my head letting the water run down my back I hope audrey

water run down my back I hope audrey

water run down my back I hope audrey comes but she probably won’t

comes but she probably won’t

comes but she probably won’t I started train hopping to save money

I started train hopping to save money

I started train hopping to save money for school I’d lost my job and heard a

for school I’d lost my job and heard a

for school I’d lost my job and heard a tip from some crust punk about picking

tip from some crust punk about picking

tip from some crust punk about picking weed in the West Coast in the summer I

weed in the West Coast in the summer I

weed in the West Coast in the summer I had just enough money for some decent

had just enough money for some decent

had just enough money for some decent boots to get started and bent

boots to get started and bent

boots to get started and bent panhandling until I reached California I

panhandling until I reached California I

panhandling until I reached California I began taking photos on my phone post him

began taking photos on my phone post him

began taking photos on my phone post him through Wi-Fi to a blog I started about

through Wi-Fi to a blog I started about

through Wi-Fi to a blog I started about the road a few people liked my posts now

the road a few people liked my posts now

the road a few people liked my posts now and then not many but Audrey was one of

and then not many but Audrey was one of

and then not many but Audrey was one of them she messaged me one day not

them she messaged me one day not

them she messaged me one day not pressing for any crazy details and while

pressing for any crazy details and while

pressing for any crazy details and while I was doing all this mostly we just

I was doing all this mostly we just

I was doing all this mostly we just talked about movies she’d never seen The

talked about movies she’d never seen The

talked about movies she’d never seen The Children’s Hour which was like

Children’s Hour which was like

Children’s Hour which was like unbelievable to me because it was this

unbelievable to me because it was this

unbelievable to me because it was this classic film starring Audrey Hepburn one

classic film starring Audrey Hepburn one

classic film starring Audrey Hepburn one of one of the first lesbian films that

of one of the first lesbian films that

of one of the first lesbian films that anyone admitted was about that and my

anyone admitted was about that and my

anyone admitted was about that and my Audrey was just as shocked I’d never

Audrey was just as shocked I’d never

Audrey was just as shocked I’d never seen Thelma and Louise but I mean Audrey

seen Thelma and Louise but I mean Audrey

seen Thelma and Louise but I mean Audrey was jealous of me for being out her dad

was jealous of me for being out her dad

was jealous of me for being out her dad was a bible-thumper who thought his

was a bible-thumper who thought his

was a bible-thumper who thought his daughter never had boyfriend because she

daughter never had boyfriend because she

daughter never had boyfriend because she because she was chaste I was jealous

because she was chaste I was jealous

because she was chaste I was jealous that Audrey has gained an arts degree in

that Audrey has gained an arts degree in

that Audrey has gained an arts degree in Missouri a state that I could actually

Missouri a state that I could actually

Missouri a state that I could actually stop him pretty easily on my

stop him pretty easily on my

stop him pretty easily on my California the closest I could get to

California the closest I could get to

California the closest I could get to her was a BNSF line a few miles from the

her was a BNSF line a few miles from the

her was a BNSF line a few miles from the Red Birds motel she agreed to meet me

Red Birds motel she agreed to meet me

Red Birds motel she agreed to meet me here tonight but as the shower gets

here tonight but as the shower gets

here tonight but as the shower gets lukewarm I’m not holding out hope I get

lukewarm I’m not holding out hope I get

lukewarm I’m not holding out hope I get out and dry off checking my phone sure

out and dry off checking my phone sure

out and dry off checking my phone sure enough she texts my dad saw her messages

enough she texts my dad saw her messages

enough she texts my dad saw her messages he just thinks I’m talking to a stranger

he just thinks I’m talking to a stranger

he just thinks I’m talking to a stranger he doesn’t know but he’s still freaking

he doesn’t know but he’s still freaking

he doesn’t know but he’s still freaking out maybe tomorrow

out maybe tomorrow

out maybe tomorrow like I said I’m not holding out hope I

like I said I’m not holding out hope I

like I said I’m not holding out hope I told her I was gonna stay the weekend

told her I was gonna stay the weekend

told her I was gonna stay the weekend already and of course I lied saying that

already and of course I lied saying that

already and of course I lied saying that was just for me to rest not to see her

was just for me to rest not to see her

was just for me to rest not to see her but I go to bed ready to leave bye check

but I go to bed ready to leave bye check

but I go to bed ready to leave bye check out the metal telephone next to the bed

out the metal telephone next to the bed

out the metal telephone next to the bed rings early in the morning the manager

rings early in the morning the manager

rings early in the morning the manager says there’s a package for me at the

says there’s a package for me at the

says there’s a package for me at the front desk he gives me the stink-eye and

front desk he gives me the stink-eye and

front desk he gives me the stink-eye and hands me a box from Amazon in white

hands me a box from Amazon in white

hands me a box from Amazon in white letters on a blue label it says same-day

letters on a blue label it says same-day

letters on a blue label it says same-day shipping

shipping

shipping I go into the room and open it up it’s a

I go into the room and open it up it’s a

I go into the room and open it up it’s a DVD of Thelma and Louise with a gift

DVD of Thelma and Louise with a gift

DVD of Thelma and Louise with a gift note on the packing slip I read that

note on the packing slip I read that

note on the packing slip I read that then jump into the shower again this

then jump into the shower again this

then jump into the shower again this time to get ready

time to get ready

time to get ready [Applause]

[Music]

[Music] [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] [Music]

you so much Eric it was beautiful who

you so much Eric it was beautiful who here your work and I know it was an

here your work and I know it was an

here your work and I know it was an honor to have the both of you on our

honor to have the both of you on our

honor to have the both of you on our stage so thank you so much more time

stage so thank you so much more time

stage so thank you so much more time [Applause]

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