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And Justice for All? | Lisa Cisneros | TEDxYorkSchool


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[Music] in the arena 10 years ago

in the arena 10 years ago

in the arena 10 years ago fresh out of law school I joined CRLA to

fresh out of law school I joined CRLA to

fresh out of law school I joined CRLA to help launch a first-of-its-kind program

help launch a first-of-its-kind program

help launch a first-of-its-kind program to provide free legal services to

to provide free legal services to

to provide free legal services to vulnerable LGBTQ people in rural

vulnerable LGBTQ people in rural

vulnerable LGBTQ people in rural California the program was inspired by a

California the program was inspired by a

California the program was inspired by a client that Sierra had represented she

client that Sierra had represented she

client that Sierra had represented she was a transgender woman from Mexico she

was a transgender woman from Mexico she

was a transgender woman from Mexico she had spent years working in a packing

had spent years working in a packing

had spent years working in a packing shed since she was a young girl as early

shed since she was a young girl as early

shed since she was a young girl as early as she could remember excuse me a young

as she could remember excuse me a young

as she could remember excuse me a young boy she had been labeled male but she

boy she had been labeled male but she

boy she had been labeled male but she always felt that she was a girl for

always felt that she was a girl for

always felt that she was a girl for years she worked at that packing shed

years she worked at that packing shed

years she worked at that packing shed and slowly but surely she climbed the

and slowly but surely she climbed the

and slowly but surely she climbed the ranks of management at one point she was

ranks of management at one point she was

ranks of management at one point she was supervising over a hundred employees

supervising over a hundred employees

supervising over a hundred employees then she decided to start publicly

then she decided to start publicly

then she decided to start publicly living as a woman almost immediately she

living as a woman almost immediately she

living as a woman almost immediately she was demoted she started to experience

was demoted she started to experience

was demoted she started to experience daily verbal harassment she was even

daily verbal harassment she was even

daily verbal harassment she was even threatened with violence

threatened with violence

threatened with violence fortunately Sierra CRLA was able to

fortunately Sierra CRLA was able to

fortunately Sierra CRLA was able to represent her and after resolving her

represent her and after resolving her

represent her and after resolving her case there was a sense that this was

case there was a sense that this was

case there was a sense that this was just the tip of the iceberg that there

just the tip of the iceberg that there

just the tip of the iceberg that there were many more people like our client

were many more people like our client

were many more people like our client who needed help because they were LGBTQ

who needed help because they were LGBTQ

who needed help because they were LGBTQ our attorneys and staff they wanted to

our attorneys and staff they wanted to

our attorneys and staff they wanted to do more many of my colleagues had gay

do more many of my colleagues had gay

do more many of my colleagues had gay brothers and sisters who passed away in

brothers and sisters who passed away in

brothers and sisters who passed away in the 80s or the 90s at the height of the

the 80s or the 90s at the height of the

the 80s or the 90s at the height of the AIDS epidemic and their memories they

AIDS epidemic and their memories they

AIDS epidemic and their memories they wanted to do more California had a set

wanted to do more California had a set

wanted to do more California had a set of newly minted civil rights protections

of newly minted civil rights protections

of newly minted civil rights protections to protect LGBT people from

to protect LGBT people from

to protect LGBT people from discrimination

discrimination

discrimination slowly but surely we trained a small

slowly but surely we trained a small

slowly but surely we trained a small army of attorneys and staff at CRLA to

army of attorneys and staff at CRLA to

army of attorneys and staff at CRLA to provide legal assistance to this

provide legal assistance to this

provide legal assistance to this previously overlooked community over the

previously overlooked community over the

previously overlooked community over the years we’ve represented hundreds of LGBT

years we’ve represented hundreds of LGBT

years we’ve represented hundreds of LGBT people in many different types of cases

people in many different types of cases

people in many different types of cases though primarily employment sometimes

though primarily employment sometimes

though primarily employment sometimes education and immigration law as well

education and immigration law as well

education and immigration law as well through doing this project we’ve had to

through doing this project we’ve had to

through doing this project we’ve had to combat

combat

combat – – really difficult mess first that

– – really difficult mess first that

– – really difficult mess first that LGBT people are primarily white and

LGBT people are primarily white and

LGBT people are primarily white and wealthy and living safely in big cities

wealthy and living safely in big cities

wealthy and living safely in big cities like San Francisco LA and New York

like San Francisco LA and New York

like San Francisco LA and New York rather in places like the rather than in

rather in places like the rather than in

rather in places like the rather than in places like Monterey County we’ve also

places like Monterey County we’ve also

places like Monterey County we’ve also had to combat a notion that rural towns

had to combat a notion that rural towns

had to combat a notion that rural towns and small cities are inherently

and small cities are inherently

and small cities are inherently unwelcoming to LGBT people fortunately

unwelcoming to LGBT people fortunately

unwelcoming to LGBT people fortunately one of the great privileges that I’ve

one of the great privileges that I’ve

one of the great privileges that I’ve had and doing this work is working with

had and doing this work is working with

had and doing this work is working with amazing LGBT leaders and allies in

amazing LGBT leaders and allies in

amazing LGBT leaders and allies in places like Salinas Watsonville Gonzales

places like Salinas Watsonville Gonzales

places like Salinas Watsonville Gonzales Merced countless small towns even though

Merced countless small towns even though

Merced countless small towns even though sent it all down on the US Mexican

sent it all down on the US Mexican

sent it all down on the US Mexican border and we all share this common core

border and we all share this common core

border and we all share this common core belief this faith that equality belongs

belief this faith that equality belongs

belief this faith that equality belongs everywhere and slowly but surely we’re

everywhere and slowly but surely we’re

everywhere and slowly but surely we’re going to accomplish that many people

going to accomplish that many people

going to accomplish that many people have asked me how did I come down this

have asked me how did I come down this

have asked me how did I come down this path in my career how did I start

path in my career how did I start

path in my career how did I start practicing LGBT civil rights and

practicing LGBT civil rights and

practicing LGBT civil rights and especially in rural communities well I

especially in rural communities well I

especially in rural communities well I think you know jumping in terms of

think you know jumping in terms of

think you know jumping in terms of jumping in the arena like President

jumping in the arena like President

jumping in the arena like President Teddy Roosevelt likes to call it

Teddy Roosevelt likes to call it

Teddy Roosevelt likes to call it oftentimes we jump into the arena

oftentimes we jump into the arena

oftentimes we jump into the arena because our own life experiences for me

because our own life experiences for me

because our own life experiences for me I remember growing up in Salinas and

I remember growing up in Salinas and

I remember growing up in Salinas and everywhere we lived we lived next to the

everywhere we lived we lived next to the

everywhere we lived we lived next to the fields there was one period of time

fields there was one period of time

fields there was one period of time where we live next to the jail but by

where we live next to the jail but by

where we live next to the jail but by and large we live next to the fields so

and large we live next to the fields so

and large we live next to the fields so every morning when I would get up to go

every morning when I would get up to go

every morning when I would get up to go to school whether I was walking to

to school whether I was walking to

to school whether I was walking to school I was jumping you know onto a

school I was jumping you know onto a

school I was jumping you know onto a school bus I’d look out and I could see

school bus I’d look out and I could see

school bus I’d look out and I could see already crews of moms and dads

already crews of moms and dads

already crews of moms and dads grandparents cousins already hustling up

grandparents cousins already hustling up

grandparents cousins already hustling up and down the rows of strawberries

and down the rows of strawberries

and down the rows of strawberries bringing produce to the trucks and it

bringing produce to the trucks and it

bringing produce to the trucks and it amazed me that people could work so hard

amazed me that people could work so hard

amazed me that people could work so hard and yet barely make ends meet and I

and yet barely make ends meet and I

and yet barely make ends meet and I wasn’t related to these workers in the

wasn’t related to these workers in the

wasn’t related to these workers in the field but they were only a generation

field but they were only a generation

field but they were only a generation away from me in terms of my life

away from me in terms of my life

away from me in terms of my life experience and my family’s experience so

experience and my family’s experience so

experience and my family’s experience so like many of my family members

like many of my family members

like many of my family members especially the older ones who spent time

especially the older ones who spent time

especially the older ones who spent time working in the field

working in the field

working in the field I just couldn’t fathom that people could

I just couldn’t fathom that people could

I just couldn’t fathom that people could work so hard in this back-breaking labor

work so hard in this back-breaking labor

work so hard in this back-breaking labor and yet have such a tough time whether

and yet have such a tough time whether

and yet have such a tough time whether it’s in getting the right schooling for

it’s in getting the right schooling for

it’s in getting the right schooling for their kids or whether was gettin safe

their kids or whether was gettin safe

their kids or whether was gettin safe housing sometimes we see injustice in

housing sometimes we see injustice in

housing sometimes we see injustice in our own community and we don’t have any

our own community and we don’t have any

our own community and we don’t have any choice we want to jump in and help and

choice we want to jump in and help and

choice we want to jump in and help and for some of us were thrown into the

for some of us were thrown into the

for some of us were thrown into the arena through no choice of our own I

arena through no choice of our own I

arena through no choice of our own I remember as a teenager coming out to

remember as a teenager coming out to

remember as a teenager coming out to myself as a lesbian and realizing that I

myself as a lesbian and realizing that I

myself as a lesbian and realizing that I felt this sting of stigma and

felt this sting of stigma and

felt this sting of stigma and discrimination I was coming into my own

discrimination I was coming into my own

discrimination I was coming into my own as a young adult as a teenager like so

as a young adult as a teenager like so

as a young adult as a teenager like so many others realizing that we were faced

many others realizing that we were faced

many others realizing that we were faced with this reality where there were

with this reality where there were

with this reality where there were states that banned marriage that LGBT

states that banned marriage that LGBT

states that banned marriage that LGBT people couldn’t serve openly in the

people couldn’t serve openly in the

people couldn’t serve openly in the military there were some states where

military there were some states where

military there were some states where courts were stripping child custody for

courts were stripping child custody for

courts were stripping child custody for gay parents just based on their sexual

gay parents just based on their sexual

gay parents just based on their sexual orientation alone so gay parents could

orientation alone so gay parents could

orientation alone so gay parents could lose their kids so it was really

lose their kids so it was really

lose their kids so it was really dehumanizing for me and I think in many

dehumanizing for me and I think in many

dehumanizing for me and I think in many ways angering and fortunately I had a

ways angering and fortunately I had a

ways angering and fortunately I had a great education and I had wonderful

great education and I had wonderful

great education and I had wonderful opportunities so later in life I had the

opportunities so later in life I had the

opportunities so later in life I had the golden opportunity of having my dream

golden opportunity of having my dream

golden opportunity of having my dream job as an LGBT civil rights attorney in

job as an LGBT civil rights attorney in

job as an LGBT civil rights attorney in my own hometown Salinas I also had an

my own hometown Salinas I also had an

my own hometown Salinas I also had an opportunity when I was working in San

opportunity when I was working in San

opportunity when I was working in San Francisco with a firm to represent a

Francisco with a firm to represent a

Francisco with a firm to represent a group of renowned constitutional law

group of renowned constitutional law

group of renowned constitutional law professors in an amicus brief to the

professors in an amicus brief to the

professors in an amicus brief to the Supreme Court we were struggling to

Supreme Court we were struggling to

Supreme Court we were struggling to overturn proposition 8 in this case and

overturn proposition 8 in this case and

overturn proposition 8 in this case and I was burning the midnight oil working

I was burning the midnight oil working

I was burning the midnight oil working on this this brief poring over trial

on this this brief poring over trial

on this this brief poring over trial transcripts I’d come home at an ungodly

transcripts I’d come home at an ungodly

transcripts I’d come home at an ungodly hour

hour

hour I’d scoop up my newborn baby Carmela and

I’d scoop up my newborn baby Carmela and

I’d scoop up my newborn baby Carmela and I’d snuggle her for a bit and then I

I’d snuggle her for a bit and then I

I’d snuggle her for a bit and then I climb into bed and my wife would already

climb into bed and my wife would already

climb into bed and my wife would already be fast asleep I felt like in that time

be fast asleep I felt like in that time

be fast asleep I felt like in that time I was just reclaiming a little bit of my

I was just reclaiming a little bit of my

I was just reclaiming a little bit of my dignity just by merely standing up and

dignity just by merely standing up and

dignity just by merely standing up and fighting and having this opportunity to

fighting and having this opportunity to

fighting and having this opportunity to go to court my behalf and on behalf of

go to court my behalf and on behalf of

go to court my behalf and on behalf of my loved ones and my community so I

my loved ones and my community so I

my loved ones and my community so I think for many people

think for many people

think for many people jump into the arena because you don’t

jump into the arena because you don’t

jump into the arena because you don’t feel like you have no choice of course I

feel like you have no choice of course I

feel like you have no choice of course I know a lot of the LGBTQ attorneys on

know a lot of the LGBTQ attorneys on

know a lot of the LGBTQ attorneys on that case felt similarly and many of the

that case felt similarly and many of the

that case felt similarly and many of the civil rights attorneys that I work with

civil rights attorneys that I work with

civil rights attorneys that I work with and other folks who are activists feel

and other folks who are activists feel

and other folks who are activists feel like our work is not done at all yet our

like our work is not done at all yet our

like our work is not done at all yet our communities are still profoundly

communities are still profoundly

communities are still profoundly segregated based on race and class too

segregated based on race and class too

segregated based on race and class too many politicians resorts escape goading

many politicians resorts escape goading

many politicians resorts escape goading Latinos Muslim people immigrants rather

Latinos Muslim people immigrants rather

Latinos Muslim people immigrants rather than relying on good governance to win

than relying on good governance to win

than relying on good governance to win boats so our work isn’t done by any

boats so our work isn’t done by any

boats so our work isn’t done by any means and when I think about what it

means and when I think about what it

means and when I think about what it really takes to create lasting social

really takes to create lasting social

really takes to create lasting social change and civil rights and the arena of

change and civil rights and the arena of

change and civil rights and the arena of civil rights and and human rights really

civil rights and and human rights really

civil rights and and human rights really what matters most is society at large

what matters most is society at large

what matters most is society at large the victories of courtroom warriors that

the victories of courtroom warriors that

the victories of courtroom warriors that can be short-lived if society as a whole

can be short-lived if society as a whole

can be short-lived if society as a whole our moral compass collectively doesn’t

our moral compass collectively doesn’t

our moral compass collectively doesn’t shift so in saying that what really

shift so in saying that what really

shift so in saying that what really matters the most is whether or not

matters the most is whether or not

matters the most is whether or not you’re gonna jump in the arena and when

you’re gonna jump in the arena and when

you’re gonna jump in the arena and when you jump in the arena what are you gonna

you jump in the arena what are you gonna

you jump in the arena what are you gonna stand for so join me

stand for so join me

stand for so join me [Applause]

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