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Kissing Point: Reclaiming Exclusive Spaces as Your Own | Amanda Madigan | TEDxBrownU


this is partly a TED talk and partly a

this is partly a TED talk and partly a public declaration of queer love this is

public declaration of queer love this is

public declaration of queer love this is my girlfriend

my girlfriend

my girlfriend Alessia and me we are kissing in front

Alessia and me we are kissing in front

Alessia and me we are kissing in front of st. Peter’s Basilica one of the key

of st. Peter’s Basilica one of the key

of st. Peter’s Basilica one of the key landmarks in the Italian and global

landmarks in the Italian and global

landmarks in the Italian and global Christian landscape right where the

Christian landscape right where the

Christian landscape right where the obelisk lines up with the dome recall

obelisk lines up with the dome recall

obelisk lines up with the dome recall that kissing point and we kissed there

that kissing point and we kissed there

that kissing point and we kissed there often when I come to stay in this city

often when I come to stay in this city

often when I come to stay in this city we live right around the corner so st.

we live right around the corner so st.

we live right around the corner so st. Peter’s Square has really become a home

Peter’s Square has really become a home

Peter’s Square has really become a home for us and this has become a beloved

for us and this has become a beloved

for us and this has become a beloved tradition of ours kiss scene as an

tradition of ours kiss scene as an

tradition of ours kiss scene as an openly queer couple in a space that

openly queer couple in a space that

openly queer couple in a space that means so much to us but continues to

means so much to us but continues to

means so much to us but continues to exclude us we have become very

exclude us we have become very

exclude us we have become very accustomed to some of the most common

accustomed to some of the most common

accustomed to some of the most common reactions including think of the

reactions including think of the

reactions including think of the children you must repent for that and

children you must repent for that and

children you must repent for that and why do you care so much things are

why do you care so much things are

why do you care so much things are getting better anyways NSA and I are not

getting better anyways NSA and I are not

getting better anyways NSA and I are not interested in waiting for the world to

interested in waiting for the world to

interested in waiting for the world to become more welcoming for us we are not

become more welcoming for us we are not

become more welcoming for us we are not interested in atoning for this supposed

interested in atoning for this supposed

interested in atoning for this supposed sin we want to bathe in this sin we want

sin we want to bathe in this sin we want

sin we want to bathe in this sin we want to soak it up we want to taste it we

to soak it up we want to taste it we

to soak it up we want to taste it we want to hold it in our arms whenever and

want to hold it in our arms whenever and

want to hold it in our arms whenever and wherever we want inevitably we sometimes

wherever we want inevitably we sometimes

wherever we want inevitably we sometimes don’t go unnoticed but this is our goal

don’t go unnoticed but this is our goal

don’t go unnoticed but this is our goal we spend much of our lives as invisible

we spend much of our lives as invisible

we spend much of our lives as invisible sometimes we masquerade as straight

sometimes we masquerade as straight

sometimes we masquerade as straight friends to maintain our own safety

friends to maintain our own safety

friends to maintain our own safety sometimes despite our best efforts to be

sometimes despite our best efforts to be

sometimes despite our best efforts to be seen we are made out to be deplorable

seen we are made out to be deplorable

seen we are made out to be deplorable and unnatural by certain people

and unnatural by certain people

and unnatural by certain people institutions and ideologies that

institutions and ideologies that

institutions and ideologies that surround us it’s not easy for us so

surround us it’s not easy for us so

surround us it’s not easy for us so we’ve made our own little form of

we’ve made our own little form of

we’ve made our own little form of protest one that serves the both of us

protest one that serves the both of us

protest one that serves the both of us and brings us both much happiness but it

and brings us both much happiness but it

and brings us both much happiness but it is far from the first to have taken

is far from the first to have taken

is far from the first to have taken place within this very space people have

place within this very space people have

place within this very space people have run nude through st. Peter’s Basilica

run nude through st. Peter’s Basilica

run nude through st. Peter’s Basilica people have demonstrated for the right

people have demonstrated for the right

people have demonstrated for the right of

of

of women to enter into the priesthood in

women to enter into the priesthood in

women to enter into the priesthood in the middle of the square and LGBTQIA

the middle of the square and LGBTQIA

the middle of the square and LGBTQIA after activists have brought much color

after activists have brought much color

after activists have brought much color to the square with pride flags and there

to the square with pride flags and there

to the square with pride flags and there is one protestor who has had a

is one protestor who has had a

is one protestor who has had a particular impact on my life

particular impact on my life

particular impact on my life one that Alesi and i try to pay homage

one that Alesi and i try to pay homage

one that Alesi and i try to pay homage to every time we kiss in this Square and

to every time we kiss in this Square and

to every time we kiss in this Square and that is Alfredo mondo on January 13th

that is Alfredo mondo on January 13th

that is Alfredo mondo on January 13th 1998 or mondo set himself on fire in st.

1998 or mondo set himself on fire in st.

1998 or mondo set himself on fire in st. Peter’s Square as pope john paul ii was

Peter’s Square as pope john paul ii was

Peter’s Square as pope john paul ii was speaking to a crowd and orlando a gay

speaking to a crowd and orlando a gay

speaking to a crowd and orlando a gay man did this as an act of protest

man did this as an act of protest

man did this as an act of protest against the church’s denunciation of

against the church’s denunciation of

against the church’s denunciation of homosexuality he died 11 days later in

homosexuality he died 11 days later in

homosexuality he died 11 days later in the hospital at 39 years old

the hospital at 39 years old

the hospital at 39 years old despite Orlando’s tragic death his story

despite Orlando’s tragic death his story

despite Orlando’s tragic death his story has gone largely forgotten in history

has gone largely forgotten in history

has gone largely forgotten in history but as memory is honored by the Italian

but as memory is honored by the Italian

but as memory is honored by the Italian queer community during a gap year that I

queer community during a gap year that I

queer community during a gap year that I took in Italy about two years ago after

took in Italy about two years ago after

took in Italy about two years ago after high school I watched this community

high school I watched this community

high school I watched this community make itself visible

make itself visible

make itself visible I watched it occupies spaces as its very

I watched it occupies spaces as its very

I watched it occupies spaces as its very own using kissing as a tool of protest

own using kissing as a tool of protest

own using kissing as a tool of protest when that is immediately recognizable

when that is immediately recognizable

when that is immediately recognizable and this image of the queer kiss it

and this image of the queer kiss it

and this image of the queer kiss it became so powerful and especially within

became so powerful and especially within

became so powerful and especially within an Italian context so shocking that it

an Italian context so shocking that it

an Italian context so shocking that it immediately caught on as a key image and

immediately caught on as a key image and

immediately caught on as a key image and part of this key slogan so hashtag lost

part of this key slogan so hashtag lost

part of this key slogan so hashtag lost the sabato meaning the same kiss and our

the sabato meaning the same kiss and our

the sabato meaning the same kiss and our kisses were the romantic or friendly

kisses were the romantic or friendly

kisses were the romantic or friendly pecks on the cheek they showed up in

pecks on the cheek they showed up in

pecks on the cheek they showed up in newspapers across the country garnering

newspapers across the country garnering

newspapers across the country garnering a really exciting amount of attention

a really exciting amount of attention

a really exciting amount of attention but at this particular protest I did not

but at this particular protest I did not

but at this particular protest I did not kiss my girlfriend Alessia and I didn’t

kiss my girlfriend Alessia and I didn’t

kiss my girlfriend Alessia and I didn’t kiss her because I hadn’t yet found the

kiss her because I hadn’t yet found the

kiss her because I hadn’t yet found the courage to have an entire conversation

courage to have an entire conversation

courage to have an entire conversation with her our story which I would really

with her our story which I would really

with her our story which I would really love to share with you all was very much

love to share with you all was very much

love to share with you all was very much just beginning

just beginning

just beginning I meant Alessia at the aptly named gay

I meant Alessia at the aptly named gay

I meant Alessia at the aptly named gay Center in Rome during

Center in Rome during

Center in Rome during meeting for queer youth when I first saw

meeting for queer youth when I first saw

meeting for queer youth when I first saw her we were doing a kind of warm-up

her we were doing a kind of warm-up

her we were doing a kind of warm-up exercise we were instructed to pretend

exercise we were instructed to pretend

exercise we were instructed to pretend to be trees to extend our arms to the

to be trees to extend our arms to the

to be trees to extend our arms to the side like branches close our eyes and

side like branches close our eyes and

side like branches close our eyes and feel our legs sturdy and grounded so

feel our legs sturdy and grounded so

feel our legs sturdy and grounded so there I was in a foreign country

there I was in a foreign country

there I was in a foreign country surrounded by people speaking a language

surrounded by people speaking a language

surrounded by people speaking a language I wasn’t yet familiar with pretending to

I wasn’t yet familiar with pretending to

I wasn’t yet familiar with pretending to be a tree squinting my eyes and staring

be a tree squinting my eyes and staring

be a tree squinting my eyes and staring at the most beautiful girl I’ve ever

at the most beautiful girl I’ve ever

at the most beautiful girl I’ve ever seen and today when I look at her in

seen and today when I look at her in

seen and today when I look at her in person or over Skype I’m just as

person or over Skype I’m just as

person or over Skype I’m just as overwhelmed but we almost missed our

overwhelmed but we almost missed our

overwhelmed but we almost missed our opportunity because we’re both very shy

opportunity because we’re both very shy

opportunity because we’re both very shy when we finally found the courage to

when we finally found the courage to

when we finally found the courage to spend some time just the two of us I

spend some time just the two of us I

spend some time just the two of us I found the words so what’s going on

found the words so what’s going on

found the words so what’s going on between us come tumbling out of my mouth

between us come tumbling out of my mouth

between us come tumbling out of my mouth and she kissed me and it was the most

and she kissed me and it was the most

and she kissed me and it was the most intense kiss I’ve ever experienced and

intense kiss I’ve ever experienced and

intense kiss I’ve ever experienced and from that moment forward all I wanted to

from that moment forward all I wanted to

from that moment forward all I wanted to do was kiss this girl from San Pietro to

do was kiss this girl from San Pietro to

do was kiss this girl from San Pietro to Pina though from the ruins a toast and

Pina though from the ruins a toast and

Pina though from the ruins a toast and peek to the forum and the Colosseum I

peek to the forum and the Colosseum I

peek to the forum and the Colosseum I wanted to kiss her and I wanted to fall

wanted to kiss her and I wanted to fall

wanted to kiss her and I wanted to fall in love on my own terms and show the

in love on my own terms and show the

in love on my own terms and show the entire city that I was falling in love

entire city that I was falling in love

entire city that I was falling in love for the very first time but we are not a

for the very first time but we are not a

for the very first time but we are not a straight couple so it was not so simple

straight couple so it was not so simple

straight couple so it was not so simple at a concert we attended a group of

at a concert we attended a group of

at a concert we attended a group of young men approached us and started

young men approached us and started

young men approached us and started breathily asking questions into my ear

breathily asking questions into my ear

breathily asking questions into my ear such as how can such a feminine girl be

such as how can such a feminine girl be

such as how can such a feminine girl be gay and are you 100% lesbian one of them

gay and are you 100% lesbian one of them

gay and are you 100% lesbian one of them asked us to kiss in front of him a gross

asked us to kiss in front of him a gross

asked us to kiss in front of him a gross attempt a tree appropriating our own

attempt a tree appropriating our own

attempt a tree appropriating our own intimate form of expressing our love

intimate form of expressing our love

intimate form of expressing our love another time on the way to picnic in a

another time on the way to picnic in a

another time on the way to picnic in a nearby park we stopped by a cafe to pick

nearby park we stopped by a cafe to pick

nearby park we stopped by a cafe to pick up some sandwiches and at this cafe

up some sandwiches and at this cafe

up some sandwiches and at this cafe right by my home I had come to be really

right by my home I had come to be really

right by my home I had come to be really friendly with one of the waiters there

friendly with one of the waiters there

friendly with one of the waiters there but this day when we walked in he took

but this day when we walked in he took

but this day when we walked in he took one look at Alessia and said to me

one look at Alessia and said to me

one look at Alessia and said to me confused who is this

confused who is this

confused who is this is my girlfriend I said and he paused

is my girlfriend I said and he paused

is my girlfriend I said and he paused and said are you sure we have countless

and said are you sure we have countless

and said are you sure we have countless stories like this and none of them were

stories like this and none of them were

stories like this and none of them were easy to experience so we had to face

easy to experience so we had to face

easy to experience so we had to face face the facts face the facts that in

face the facts face the facts that in

face the facts face the facts that in this city there are people that want to

this city there are people that want to

this city there are people that want to prove that I love is an authentic in

prove that I love is an authentic in

prove that I love is an authentic in this city we are not only unwelcome we

this city we are not only unwelcome we

this city we are not only unwelcome we are actively excluded so the question

are actively excluded so the question

are actively excluded so the question became how do we do this on our own

became how do we do this on our own

became how do we do this on our own terms how do we make visible what

terms how do we make visible what

terms how do we make visible what existed previously only behind closed

existed previously only behind closed

existed previously only behind closed doors or in our own interior T’s how do

doors or in our own interior T’s how do

doors or in our own interior T’s how do we emerge from a whole history of

we emerge from a whole history of

we emerge from a whole history of repression and assert a relationship as

repression and assert a relationship as

repression and assert a relationship as our very own how do we find a way to

our very own how do we find a way to

our very own how do we find a way to belong in spaces that exclude us this is

belong in spaces that exclude us this is

belong in spaces that exclude us this is really complicated and I am sure every

really complicated and I am sure every

really complicated and I am sure every queer individual knows that that it’s

queer individual knows that that it’s

queer individual knows that that it’s hard and it’s scary so it’s really

hard and it’s scary so it’s really

hard and it’s scary so it’s really important to recognize that we were so

important to recognize that we were so

important to recognize that we were so hugely privileged to be able to safely

hugely privileged to be able to safely

hugely privileged to be able to safely protest in Rome and there’s a lot to

protest in Rome and there’s a lot to

protest in Rome and there’s a lot to protest about my gap year in Rome

protest about my gap year in Rome

protest about my gap year in Rome happened to coincide with a hugely

happened to coincide with a hugely

happened to coincide with a hugely important year in the history of LGBTQ

important year in the history of LGBTQ

important year in the history of LGBTQ rights in Italy moneka Chitina a

rights in Italy moneka Chitina a

rights in Italy moneka Chitina a Democratic senator penned a bill on the

Democratic senator penned a bill on the

Democratic senator penned a bill on the right of same-sex couples to enter into

right of same-sex couples to enter into

right of same-sex couples to enter into civil unions not marriage civil unions

civil unions not marriage civil unions

civil unions not marriage civil unions the bill did eventually pass in February

the bill did eventually pass in February

the bill did eventually pass in February of 2016 but only after countless

of 2016 but only after countless

of 2016 but only after countless negotiations and changes including the

negotiations and changes including the

negotiations and changes including the removal of the right of same-sex couples

removal of the right of same-sex couples

removal of the right of same-sex couples to adopt children all in all it was a

to adopt children all in all it was a

to adopt children all in all it was a huge disappointment but in the time

huge disappointment but in the time

huge disappointment but in the time leading up to the vote the community

leading up to the vote the community

leading up to the vote the community protested and demonstrated almost every

protested and demonstrated almost every

protested and demonstrated almost every week and I was really lucky to be able

week and I was really lucky to be able

week and I was really lucky to be able to participate and on Valentine’s Day

to participate and on Valentine’s Day

to participate and on Valentine’s Day we took our proud unapologetic selves to

we took our proud unapologetic selves to

we took our proud unapologetic selves to the Pantheon and we celebrated love

the Pantheon and we celebrated love

the Pantheon and we celebrated love bocce

bocce

bocce were given out bocce candies bocce

were given out bocce candies bocce

were given out bocce candies bocce meeting kisses and we took part

meeting kisses and we took part

meeting kisses and we took part in a big celebration some people chose

in a big celebration some people chose

in a big celebration some people chose to kiss someone chose to express their

to kiss someone chose to express their

to kiss someone chose to express their love in other ways there is no one right

love in other ways there is no one right

love in other ways there is no one right way to express love so in front of this

way to express love so in front of this

way to express love so in front of this Roman temple turned Church built two

Roman temple turned Church built two

Roman temple turned Church built two millennia ago one of the most

millennia ago one of the most

millennia ago one of the most recognizable landmarks in the city we

recognizable landmarks in the city we

recognizable landmarks in the city we stood and demanded that our history be

stood and demanded that our history be

stood and demanded that our history be recognized as just as important and on

recognized as just as important and on

recognized as just as important and on March 5th

March 5th

March 5th we took the Piazza del Popolo in the

we took the Piazza del Popolo in the

we took the Piazza del Popolo in the months leading up to the vote these

months leading up to the vote these

months leading up to the vote these demonstrations were happening across the

demonstrations were happening across the

demonstrations were happening across the entire country and across the world but

entire country and across the world but

entire country and across the world but on that day people congregated in Rome

on that day people congregated in Rome

on that day people congregated in Rome for a huge demonstration for

for a huge demonstration for

for a huge demonstration for performances and for appearances from

performances and for appearances from

performances and for appearances from Italian celebrities was really exciting

Italian celebrities was really exciting

Italian celebrities was really exciting so in the square known as the People’s

so in the square known as the People’s

so in the square known as the People’s Square we stood and we demanded to be

Square we stood and we demanded to be

Square we stood and we demanded to be seen as just that as people and then of

seen as just that as people and then of

seen as just that as people and then of course there’s Saint Peter’s Square a

course there’s Saint Peter’s Square a

course there’s Saint Peter’s Square a space that has been used by so many

space that has been used by so many

space that has been used by so many queer activists to demonstrate for our

queer activists to demonstrate for our

queer activists to demonstrate for our rights yet one that continues to be

rights yet one that continues to be

rights yet one that continues to be incredibly exclusive my gap year also

incredibly exclusive my gap year also

incredibly exclusive my gap year also happened to coincide with a really

happened to coincide with a really

happened to coincide with a really important year in the history of this

important year in the history of this

important year in the history of this very square Pope Francis called 2016 to

very square Pope Francis called 2016 to

very square Pope Francis called 2016 to be a Jubilee year also known as the year

be a Jubilee year also known as the year

be a Jubilee year also known as the year of mercy and many made pilgrimage to

of mercy and many made pilgrimage to

of mercy and many made pilgrimage to Rome about four million tourists total

Rome about four million tourists total

Rome about four million tourists total came to the city that year and they

came to the city that year and they

came to the city that year and they poured into that Square every week to

poured into that Square every week to

poured into that Square every week to look up in awe at Pope Francis as he

look up in awe at Pope Francis as he

look up in awe at Pope Francis as he emerged from his window in the Vatican

emerged from his window in the Vatican

emerged from his window in the Vatican to give mass and they waved and cheered

to give mass and they waved and cheered

to give mass and they waved and cheered and held up banners it was always so

and held up banners it was always so

and held up banners it was always so overwhelming I’m always overwhelmed when

overwhelming I’m always overwhelmed when

overwhelming I’m always overwhelmed when I’m in that space overwhelmed by the

I’m in that space overwhelmed by the

I’m in that space overwhelmed by the power of religion and community and love

power of religion and community and love

power of religion and community and love but I’m also overwhelmed by an

but I’m also overwhelmed by an

but I’m also overwhelmed by an inescapable fear that in this space that

inescapable fear that in this space that

inescapable fear that in this space that means so much to me I am not welcome to

means so much to me I am not welcome to

means so much to me I am not welcome to be entirely Who I am legally I just

be entirely Who I am legally I just

be entirely Who I am legally I just don’t belong in these spaces Saint

don’t belong in these spaces Saint

don’t belong in these spaces Saint Peter’s Square is technically under

Peter’s Square is technically under

Peter’s Square is technically under Vatican jurisdiction

Vatican jurisdiction

Vatican jurisdiction nevertheless the two places are of

nevertheless the two places are of

nevertheless the two places are of course deeply connected and legality

course deeply connected and legality

course deeply connected and legality aside many including the curators of the

aside many including the curators of the

aside many including the curators of the space have made it clear that we are not

space have made it clear that we are not

space have made it clear that we are not welcome using language such as

welcome using language such as

welcome using language such as homosexual tendencies the Church’s

homosexual tendencies the Church’s

homosexual tendencies the Church’s official stance on queer identities is

official stance on queer identities is

official stance on queer identities is hard to swallow in the eyes of the

hard to swallow in the eyes of the

hard to swallow in the eyes of the church the church that I was baptized

church the church that I was baptized

church the church that I was baptized into we are morally unjustifiable it is

into we are morally unjustifiable it is

into we are morally unjustifiable it is written in the Catechism that our

written in the Catechism that our

written in the Catechism that our identities cannot be explained and

identities cannot be explained and

identities cannot be explained and according to Joseph Ratzinger we take

according to Joseph Ratzinger we take

according to Joseph Ratzinger we take part in an intrinsically bad behavior

part in an intrinsically bad behavior

part in an intrinsically bad behavior one that is objectively disorderly

one that is objectively disorderly

one that is objectively disorderly Ratzinger would go on to become pope

Ratzinger would go on to become pope

Ratzinger would go on to become pope benedict xvi and of course have

benedict xvi and of course have

benedict xvi and of course have tremendous influence in the country and

tremendous influence in the country and

tremendous influence in the country and pope francis the current pope he once

pope francis the current pope he once

pope francis the current pope he once famously said Who am I to judge a moment

famously said Who am I to judge a moment

famously said Who am I to judge a moment that gave so many of us hope but

that gave so many of us hope but

that gave so many of us hope but disappointingly soon after argued that

disappointingly soon after argued that

disappointingly soon after argued that there is an undeniable difference

there is an undeniable difference

there is an undeniable difference between heterosexual and homosexual

between heterosexual and homosexual

between heterosexual and homosexual couples he also reaffirmed the Church’s

couples he also reaffirmed the Church’s

couples he also reaffirmed the Church’s rule that openly queer men cannot enter

rule that openly queer men cannot enter

rule that openly queer men cannot enter the priesthood Francis is lauded as a

the priesthood Francis is lauded as a

the priesthood Francis is lauded as a progressive queer friendly Pope but

progressive queer friendly Pope but

progressive queer friendly Pope but toleration if we can even call this

toleration if we can even call this

toleration if we can even call this toleration is not nearly enough and it

toleration is not nearly enough and it

toleration is not nearly enough and it is certainly not justice for people like

is certainly not justice for people like

is certainly not justice for people like afraid or tomando we want to be able to

afraid or tomando we want to be able to

afraid or tomando we want to be able to take part in this world through our own

take part in this world through our own

take part in this world through our own definitions not through definitions

definitions not through definitions

definitions not through definitions placed upon us by others by institutions

placed upon us by others by institutions

placed upon us by others by institutions that surround us we want the same kind

that surround us we want the same kind

that surround us we want the same kind of accessibility unsafety and comfort

of accessibility unsafety and comfort

of accessibility unsafety and comfort and freedom afforded to straight

and freedom afforded to straight

and freedom afforded to straight individuals within these spaces we’re

individuals within these spaces we’re

individuals within these spaces we’re not so we kiss and the thing is we’re

not so we kiss and the thing is we’re

not so we kiss and the thing is we’re kissing in these these incredible spaces

kissing in these these incredible spaces

kissing in these these incredible spaces that were built for each and every one

that were built for each and every one

that were built for each and every one of us they are a great human inheritance

of us they are a great human inheritance

of us they are a great human inheritance and they belong to all of us when

and they belong to all of us when

and they belong to all of us when Bernini was designing the

Bernini was designing the

Bernini was designing the for Saint Peter’s Square he wanted

for Saint Peter’s Square he wanted

for Saint Peter’s Square he wanted everyone inside the square to feel like

everyone inside the square to feel like

everyone inside the square to feel like they were being embraced by warm loving

they were being embraced by warm loving

they were being embraced by warm loving arms

arms

arms so when LSE and I kiss we remind

so when LSE and I kiss we remind

so when LSE and I kiss we remind ourselves of that fact when we kiss we

ourselves of that fact when we kiss we

ourselves of that fact when we kiss we get stares and sometimes comments when

get stares and sometimes comments when

get stares and sometimes comments when we kiss we become the center of unwanted

we kiss we become the center of unwanted

we kiss we become the center of unwanted questioning and confusion and hatred but

questioning and confusion and hatred but

questioning and confusion and hatred but then we kiss and that kiss has never

then we kiss and that kiss has never

then we kiss and that kiss has never changed and at the very least that kiss

changed and at the very least that kiss

changed and at the very least that kiss has shown up in many a tourist photo and

has shown up in many a tourist photo and

has shown up in many a tourist photo and I have to say it gives me great pleasure

I have to say it gives me great pleasure

I have to say it gives me great pleasure knowing that people are returning home

knowing that people are returning home

knowing that people are returning home with these photos to remember the

with these photos to remember the

with these photos to remember the Vatican by that are decorated with queer

Vatican by that are decorated with queer

Vatican by that are decorated with queer love a couple days ago a friend asked me

love a couple days ago a friend asked me

love a couple days ago a friend asked me as I was telling him about this talk if

as I was telling him about this talk if

as I was telling him about this talk if there were one thing I could say to the

there were one thing I could say to the

there were one thing I could say to the members of the Vatican Cardinals the

members of the Vatican Cardinals the

members of the Vatican Cardinals the bishops the Pope even the Swiss Guards

bishops the Pope even the Swiss Guards

bishops the Pope even the Swiss Guards what would it be there are a lot of

what would it be there are a lot of

what would it be there are a lot of things but I would certainly say that

things but I would certainly say that

things but I would certainly say that our love is the same love that you teach

our love is the same love that you teach

our love is the same love that you teach in Scripture it’s the same love that is

in Scripture it’s the same love that is

in Scripture it’s the same love that is celebrated in Scripture the same love

celebrated in Scripture the same love

celebrated in Scripture the same love felt in prayer and sung and hymns it is

felt in prayer and sung and hymns it is

felt in prayer and sung and hymns it is a love that deserves to be broadcast on

a love that deserves to be broadcast on

a love that deserves to be broadcast on TV and hung up on banners written into

TV and hung up on banners written into

TV and hung up on banners written into law as equal and celebrated in your

law as equal and celebrated in your

law as equal and celebrated in your churches but it is not so until then you

churches but it is not so until then you

churches but it is not so until then you can look forward to a lot of queer

can look forward to a lot of queer

can look forward to a lot of queer kissing in your square thank you so much

kissing in your square thank you so much

kissing in your square thank you so much [Applause]

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