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Humanity on the Edge of Extinction | Anders Sandberg | TEDxVienna


my job is to think about the end of the

my job is to think about the end of the world it’s a great job there is so much

world it’s a great job there is so much

world it’s a great job there is so much to think about this lovely round lake is

to think about this lovely round lake is

to think about this lovely round lake is Lake Monaco gam in Quebec in Canada it’s

Lake Monaco gam in Quebec in Canada it’s

Lake Monaco gam in Quebec in Canada it’s about 70 kilometers across

about 70 kilometers across

about 70 kilometers across and about 200 million years ago a rock

and about 200 million years ago a rock

and about 200 million years ago a rock the size of the Emma quite literally hit

the size of the Emma quite literally hit

the size of the Emma quite literally hit the earth that was not a good day to be

the earth that was not a good day to be

the earth that was not a good day to be around in Canada and of course if it had

around in Canada and of course if it had

around in Canada and of course if it had happened today it would have been an

happened today it would have been an

happened today it would have been an even worse day not just in Canada but

even worse day not just in Canada but

even worse day not just in Canada but worldwide it would have ignited fires

worldwide it would have ignited fires

worldwide it would have ignited fires hundreds of kilometres away and it would

hundreds of kilometres away and it would

hundreds of kilometres away and it would have lost a dust up into the

have lost a dust up into the

have lost a dust up into the stratosphere dust that would have

stratosphere dust that would have

stratosphere dust that would have remained for at least a few years

remained for at least a few years

remained for at least a few years probably about a decade which would have

probably about a decade which would have

probably about a decade which would have made it hard to grow any crops worldwide

made it hard to grow any crops worldwide

made it hard to grow any crops worldwide we would be starving

we would be starving

we would be starving it would definitely not be good if that

it would definitely not be good if that

it would definitely not be good if that happened and of course there 884 known

happened and of course there 884 known

happened and of course there 884 known objects orbiting roughly around the

objects orbiting roughly around the

objects orbiting roughly around the Earth’s orbit about this size or larger

Earth’s orbit about this size or larger

Earth’s orbit about this size or larger none of them known to be on a collision

none of them known to be on a collision

none of them known to be on a collision course but given time one of them is

course but given time one of them is

course but given time one of them is going to hit however it happens rather

going to hit however it happens rather

going to hit however it happens rather rarely probably chance that once every

rarely probably chance that once every

rarely probably chance that once every ten million years or so so the chances

ten million years or so so the chances

ten million years or so so the chances for tomorrow are pretty good back in

for tomorrow are pretty good back in

for tomorrow are pretty good back in 1918 the soldiers coming back home from

1918 the soldiers coming back home from

1918 the soldiers coming back home from the first world war were carrying

the first world war were carrying

the first world war were carrying something else with them home influenza

something else with them home influenza

something else with them home influenza the 1918 influenza was one of the worst

the 1918 influenza was one of the worst

the 1918 influenza was one of the worst pandemics we ever seen the virus which

pandemics we ever seen the virus which

pandemics we ever seen the virus which was probably in transmitted from birds

was probably in transmitted from birds

was probably in transmitted from birds into a navvy human influenza genome it

into a navvy human influenza genome it

into a navvy human influenza genome it killed 50 to 100 million people that’s

killed 50 to 100 million people that’s

killed 50 to 100 million people that’s more than the humans actually killed

more than the humans actually killed

more than the humans actually killed during the war it would probably not

during the war it would probably not

during the war it would probably not have happened with us us human having a

have happened with us us human having a

have happened with us us human having a war weakening our immune defenses

war weakening our immune defenses

war weakening our immune defenses starving many people and then using

starving many people and then using

starving many people and then using modern railway transport to bring people

modern railway transport to bring people

modern railway transport to bring people around and of course the real problem is

around and of course the real problem is

around and of course the real problem is demyx are still happening the Black

demyx are still happening the Black

demyx are still happening the Black Plague might be in the far past but we

Plague might be in the far past but we

Plague might be in the far past but we had some close calls with SARS and Ebola

had some close calls with SARS and Ebola

had some close calls with SARS and Ebola and there might be other things

and there might be other things

and there might be other things happening because of our bio

happening because of our bio

happening because of our bio technological skills we are able to

technological skills we are able to

technological skills we are able to construct new influenza viruses and

construct new influenza viruses and

construct new influenza viruses and people actually for research purpose I

people actually for research purpose I

people actually for research purpose I have made pandemic influenza in the lab

have made pandemic influenza in the lab

have made pandemic influenza in the lab and let’s just hope we can keep it in

and let’s just hope we can keep it in

and let’s just hope we can keep it in the lab and that nobody with a bio lab

the lab and that nobody with a bio lab

the lab and that nobody with a bio lab at home thinks hey I can do that too

at home thinks hey I can do that too

at home thinks hey I can do that too that would not be good and that would

that would not be good and that would

that would not be good and that would harm us robbery the strongly another bad

harm us robbery the strongly another bad

harm us robbery the strongly another bad thing which I’m fortunate in the news I

thing which I’m fortunate in the news I

thing which I’m fortunate in the news I grew up in the 1980s when it was not

grew up in the 1980s when it was not

grew up in the 1980s when it was not uncommon to lie in bed at the evening

uncommon to lie in bed at the evening

uncommon to lie in bed at the evening the night of thinking the missiles might

the night of thinking the missiles might

the night of thinking the missiles might be in the air tonight and every other

be in the air tonight and every other

be in the air tonight and every other pop song on the top charts we’re about

pop song on the top charts we’re about

pop song on the top charts we’re about nuclear war then 1991 arrived the Berlin

nuclear war then 1991 arrived the Berlin

nuclear war then 1991 arrived the Berlin Wall fell and everybody forgot about the

Wall fell and everybody forgot about the

Wall fell and everybody forgot about the missile missiles in their silos which

missile missiles in their silos which

missile missiles in their silos which might be a bit of a mistake because many

might be a bit of a mistake because many

might be a bit of a mistake because many of them are still there and the world

of them are still there and the world

of them are still there and the world governance is not exactly looking that

governance is not exactly looking that

governance is not exactly looking that stable again the threat here is not so

stable again the threat here is not so

stable again the threat here is not so much the direct effect of nuclear

much the direct effect of nuclear

much the direct effect of nuclear weapons horrific as we might be but

weapons horrific as we might be but

weapons horrific as we might be but rather the effect that happens when you

rather the effect that happens when you

rather the effect that happens when you get the suit from burning cities getting

get the suit from burning cities getting

get the suit from burning cities getting up in the stratosphere causing a nuclear

up in the stratosphere causing a nuclear

up in the stratosphere causing a nuclear winter similar to an asteroid winter in

winter similar to an asteroid winter in

winter similar to an asteroid winter in simulations it looks like again for a

simulations it looks like again for a

simulations it looks like again for a few years you can’t do agriculture in

few years you can’t do agriculture in

few years you can’t do agriculture in the northern hemisphere we would starve

the northern hemisphere we would starve

the northern hemisphere we would starve this kind of lovely in the scenarios is

this kind of lovely in the scenarios is

this kind of lovely in the scenarios is what I deal with every day

what I deal with every day

what I deal with every day and generally existential risk threat to

and generally existential risk threat to

and generally existential risk threat to our entire future and global

our entire future and global

our entire future and global catastrophic risk nearly threat to much

catastrophic risk nearly threat to much

catastrophic risk nearly threat to much of the world are really on the

of the world are really on the

of the world are really on the researched there is more research and

researched there is more research and

researched there is more research and dung beetle reproduction than about

dung beetle reproduction than about

dung beetle reproduction than about human extinction and although I do like

human extinction and although I do like

human extinction and although I do like beetles I collect beetles I think it

beetles I collect beetles I think it

beetles I collect beetles I think it shows that our priorities might be

shows that our priorities might be

shows that our priorities might be slightly wrong indeed we humans are

slightly wrong indeed we humans are

slightly wrong indeed we humans are probably much more dangerous to

probably much more dangerous to

probably much more dangerous to ourselves

ourselves

ourselves the nature is and we need to deal with

the nature is and we need to deal with

the nature is and we need to deal with this better the good news is many of

this better the good news is many of

this better the good news is many of these risks might actually be fixable

these risks might actually be fixable

these risks might actually be fixable and we might increase our resiliency

and we might increase our resiliency

and we might increase our resiliency today I’m going to talk about one little

today I’m going to talk about one little

today I’m going to talk about one little question that sometimes

question that sometimes

question that sometimes come up many of these disaster sinners

come up many of these disaster sinners

come up many of these disaster sinners are unlikely to kill everybody

are unlikely to kill everybody

are unlikely to kill everybody somebody’s going to be holed up inside a

somebody’s going to be holed up inside a

somebody’s going to be holed up inside a big warehouse and with a can opener and

big warehouse and with a can opener and

big warehouse and with a can opener and the containers full of ravioli they are

the containers full of ravioli they are

the containers full of ravioli they are going to survive just fine

going to survive just fine

going to survive just fine Tasmania might be a rather nice place in

Tasmania might be a rather nice place in

Tasmania might be a rather nice place in the case of a nuclear war I’m in

the case of a nuclear war I’m in

the case of a nuclear war I’m in northern hemisphere and some Preppers of

northern hemisphere and some Preppers of

northern hemisphere and some Preppers of course thinking but they need to just

course thinking but they need to just

course thinking but they need to just stock up on guns and the toilet paper

stock up on guns and the toilet paper

stock up on guns and the toilet paper and the ravioli cans and hide in a cave

and the ravioli cans and hide in a cave

and the ravioli cans and hide in a cave in the mountains somewhere and then they

in the mountains somewhere and then they

in the mountains somewhere and then they can take over world afterwards the

can take over world afterwards the

can take over world afterwards the question is how many survivors would we

question is how many survivors would we

question is how many survivors would we actually need in order to repopulate the

actually need in order to repopulate the

actually need in order to repopulate the world if something went really bad

world if something went really bad

world if something went really bad ecologists care a lot about this they

ecologists care a lot about this they

ecologists care a lot about this they call it minimum viable population and

call it minimum viable population and

call it minimum viable population and it’s a big thing in conservation biology

it’s a big thing in conservation biology

it’s a big thing in conservation biology we want to understand how many pandas or

we want to understand how many pandas or

we want to understand how many pandas or Tigers or other endangered animals do we

Tigers or other endangered animals do we

Tigers or other endangered animals do we need to have in our reservation in order

need to have in our reservation in order

need to have in our reservation in order to be fairly certain they are not going

to be fairly certain they are not going

to be fairly certain they are not going to die out so ecologists are doing

to die out so ecologists are doing

to die out so ecologists are doing simulations we’re using software like

simulations we’re using software like

simulations we’re using software like the vortex 10 I got on my slide in order

the vortex 10 I got on my slide in order

the vortex 10 I got on my slide in order to calculate how many individuals are

to calculate how many individuals are

to calculate how many individuals are needed maybe we even need to move them

needed maybe we even need to move them

needed maybe we even need to move them into captivity in order to breed more of

into captivity in order to breed more of

into captivity in order to breed more of them because they can’t survive on their

them because they can’t survive on their

them because they can’t survive on their own and the biggest problem when you

own and the biggest problem when you

own and the biggest problem when you have a really small population is that

have a really small population is that

have a really small population is that you might run out of luck the next

you might run out of luck the next

you might run out of luck the next generation if you have Ravi for a few

generation if you have Ravi for a few

generation if you have Ravi for a few individual individuals might have many

individual individuals might have many

individual individuals might have many more males than females

more males than females

more males than females which means that the effective breeding

which means that the effective breeding

which means that the effective breeding population is much smaller you might be

population is much smaller you might be

population is much smaller you might be unlucky with the weather climatic or

unlucky with the weather climatic or

unlucky with the weather climatic or environmental fluctuations might hit you

environmental fluctuations might hit you

environmental fluctuations might hit you you might lose genetic diversity which

you might lose genetic diversity which

you might lose genetic diversity which means that inbreeding is a problem and

means that inbreeding is a problem and

means that inbreeding is a problem and of course nudist sources might happen

of course nudist sources might happen

of course nudist sources might happen once a species has a small population

once a species has a small population

once a species has a small population because much more vulnerable and if then

because much more vulnerable and if then

because much more vulnerable and if then it can start circling the drain hence

it can start circling the drain hence

it can start circling the drain hence the name vortex for that software so

the name vortex for that software so

the name vortex for that software so what is human minimum viable population

what is human minimum viable population

what is human minimum viable population it’s interesting there isn’t a number in

it’s interesting there isn’t a number in

it’s interesting there isn’t a number in the literature we actually don’t know I

the literature we actually don’t know I

the literature we actually don’t know I don’t believe that the Adam and Eve is a

don’t believe that the Adam and Eve is a

don’t believe that the Adam and Eve is a viable minimum population that happened

viable minimum population that happened

viable minimum population that happened with a bit of divine intervention

with a bit of divine intervention

with a bit of divine intervention in the past we know that hunter-gatherer

in the past we know that hunter-gatherer

in the past we know that hunter-gatherer bands

bands

bands have numbered in about a hundred people

have numbered in about a hundred people

have numbered in about a hundred people but it’s unclear whether in just a small

but it’s unclear whether in just a small

but it’s unclear whether in just a small band of hunter-gatherers could actually

band of hunter-gatherers could actually

band of hunter-gatherers could actually colonize the world in ecology if you ask

colonize the world in ecology if you ask

colonize the world in ecology if you ask ecologist in general if you have a large

ecologist in general if you have a large

ecologist in general if you have a large mammal breathing Rob is slowly it needs

mammal breathing Rob is slowly it needs

mammal breathing Rob is slowly it needs a lot of food how many individuals would

a lot of food how many individuals would

a lot of food how many individuals would we need to preserve they would say well

we need to preserve they would say well

we need to preserve they would say well five thousand give or take this is kind

five thousand give or take this is kind

five thousand give or take this is kind of a standard guess but it’s extremely

of a standard guess but it’s extremely

of a standard guess but it’s extremely uncertain for smaller animals that breed

uncertain for smaller animals that breed

uncertain for smaller animals that breed faster you can actually get away with

faster you can actually get away with

faster you can actually get away with much smaller populations but some

much smaller populations but some

much smaller populations but some animals need a lot more so what can we

animals need a lot more so what can we

animals need a lot more so what can we do to figure out how many humans we need

do to figure out how many humans we need

do to figure out how many humans we need to really sell keep safe in the case of

to really sell keep safe in the case of

to really sell keep safe in the case of a huge disaster one way is of course to

a huge disaster one way is of course to

a huge disaster one way is of course to try to look at history so we know north

try to look at history so we know north

try to look at history so we know north and south america was colonized by rober

and south america was colonized by rober

and south america was colonized by rober small population we know that because

small population we know that because

small population we know that because they underwent a genetic bottleneck

they underwent a genetic bottleneck

they underwent a genetic bottleneck about ten thousand years ago or a bit

about ten thousand years ago or a bit

about ten thousand years ago or a bit before that depending on which

before that depending on which

before that depending on which archaeological field you like people

archaeological field you like people

archaeological field you like people moved over mariya then a land between

moved over mariya then a land between

moved over mariya then a land between Alaska and Siberia which at the time was

Alaska and Siberia which at the time was

Alaska and Siberia which at the time was dry land and a small pack of humans got

dry land and a small pack of humans got

dry land and a small pack of humans got down there and it seems that it might

down there and it seems that it might

down there and it seems that it might have been as few as 70 people in the

have been as few as 70 people in the

have been as few as 70 people in the individual and population this is

individual and population this is

individual and population this is controversial but it sort of seems that

controversial but it sort of seems that

controversial but it sort of seems that it was a very small group

it was a very small group

it was a very small group so maybe the answer is 70 people not so

so maybe the answer is 70 people not so

so maybe the answer is 70 people not so fast there might have been a lot of

fast there might have been a lot of

fast there might have been a lot of groups of people trying to move or at

groups of people trying to move or at

groups of people trying to move or at least moving around the following in the

least moving around the following in the

least moving around the following in the game and fishing and some of them

game and fishing and some of them

game and fishing and some of them succeeded the last one all the previous

succeeded the last one all the previous

succeeded the last one all the previous one had failed may might have been much

one had failed may might have been much

one had failed may might have been much large groups but they went extinct with

large groups but they went extinct with

large groups but they went extinct with no an archaeological evidence but one

no an archaeological evidence but one

no an archaeological evidence but one small group were successful filled the

small group were successful filled the

small group were successful filled the prairies of North America went across

prairies of North America went across

prairies of North America went across Panama went down into South America and

Panama went down into South America and

Panama went down into South America and eventually became all the Native

eventually became all the Native

eventually became all the Native American people so we can’t use that

American people so we can’t use that

American people so we can’t use that number really well

number really well

number really well another interesting number is actually

another interesting number is actually

another interesting number is actually from South America we’re in a very have

from South America we’re in a very have

from South America we’re in a very have been number of small tribes that have

been number of small tribes that have

been number of small tribes that have been contacted by civilization this has

been contacted by civilization this has

been contacted by civilization this has generally not been good for them

generally not been good for them

generally not been good for them typically the population has collapsed

typically the population has collapsed

typically the population has collapsed very strongly off during

very strongly off during

very strongly off during countering civilization not just because

countering civilization not just because

countering civilization not just because civilized people are nasty but because

civilized people are nasty but because

civilized people are nasty but because we have a lot of diseases we have been

we have a lot of diseases we have been

we have a lot of diseases we have been spreading around the world that many of

spreading around the world that many of

spreading around the world that many of these smaller populations don’t have any

these smaller populations don’t have any

these smaller populations don’t have any defense against that means that we

defense against that means that we

defense against that means that we suffered tremendous kept disastrous

suffered tremendous kept disastrous

suffered tremendous kept disastrous collapse and then they many of them

collapse and then they many of them

collapse and then they many of them start to recover not all of them but

start to recover not all of them but

start to recover not all of them but this gives us another number of how many

this gives us another number of how many

this gives us another number of how many people in that survive the first

people in that survive the first

people in that survive the first collapse in a tribe or need that in

collapse in a tribe or need that in

collapse in a tribe or need that in order to actually recover and in this

order to actually recover and in this

order to actually recover and in this data it suggests it’s about 108 people

data it suggests it’s about 108 people

data it suggests it’s about 108 people of course it’s much better if more of

of course it’s much better if more of

of course it’s much better if more of people survive it’s even better if they

people survive it’s even better if they

people survive it’s even better if they have a large population increase if

have a large population increase if

have a large population increase if modern health care had really helped

modern health care had really helped

modern health care had really helped some things move up so this gives us

some things move up so this gives us

some things move up so this gives us another kind of evidence we can of

another kind of evidence we can of

another kind of evidence we can of course look into totally different

course look into totally different

course look into totally different approaches some of my friends in the

approaches some of my friends in the

approaches some of my friends in the space movement or really can’t wait to

space movement or really can’t wait to

space movement or really can’t wait to get away from his dangerous planet they

get away from his dangerous planet they

get away from his dangerous planet they really want to settle Mars or maybe even

really want to settle Mars or maybe even

really want to settle Mars or maybe even go further away so how many people

go further away so how many people

go further away so how many people should you put on your space org and

should you put on your space org and

should you put on your space org and there is a number of simulations and

there is a number of simulations and

there is a number of simulations and models of literature more if they

models of literature more if they

models of literature more if they believed that well for a 200 year

believed that well for a 200 year

believed that well for a 200 year mission to the Stars where you have

mission to the Stars where you have

mission to the Stars where you have several generations living on your

several generations living on your

several generations living on your starship you need about 150 people Smith

starship you need about 150 people Smith

starship you need about 150 people Smith said no you need 40,000 it better be a

said no you need 40,000 it better be a

said no you need 40,000 it better be a big spaceship

big spaceship

big spaceship a more recent paper Mari and argued that

a more recent paper Mari and argued that

a more recent paper Mari and argued that yeah actually you want to avoid

yeah actually you want to avoid

yeah actually you want to avoid overcrowding because even a large

overcrowding because even a large

overcrowding because even a large spaceship gets Rover overcrowded if

spaceship gets Rover overcrowded if

spaceship gets Rover overcrowded if people have too many kids and also you

people have too many kids and also you

people have too many kids and also you don’t want to start out to known as

don’t want to start out to known as

don’t want to start out to known as small because you get a lot of

small because you get a lot of

small because you get a lot of inbreeding

inbreeding

inbreeding he believed 14,000 it was necessary

he believed 14,000 it was necessary

he believed 14,000 it was necessary which is a large spacecraft now in this

which is a large spacecraft now in this

which is a large spacecraft now in this more science fictional scenario we can

more science fictional scenario we can

more science fictional scenario we can also be think about all sorts of

also be think about all sorts of

also be think about all sorts of high-tech assumptions actually doing sex

high-tech assumptions actually doing sex

high-tech assumptions actually doing sex selection so during most of the tree

selection so during most of the tree

selection so during most of the tree trip it’s mostly females and using an

trip it’s mostly females and using an

trip it’s mostly females and using an insemination in order to get genetic

insemination in order to get genetic

insemination in order to get genetic diversity that might actually make the

diversity that might actually make the

diversity that might actually make the population much more stable I did my own

population much more stable I did my own

population much more stable I did my own work because I was not entirely happy

work because I was not entirely happy

work because I was not entirely happy with this so I did my kind of same

with this so I did my kind of same

with this so I did my kind of same apocalypse not as good graphics as the

apocalypse not as good graphics as the

apocalypse not as good graphics as the modern narasimha games but quite an

modern narasimha games but quite an

modern narasimha games but quite an interesting topic so I simulated small

interesting topic so I simulated small

interesting topic so I simulated small scientists and I tried to simulate what

scientists and I tried to simulate what

scientists and I tried to simulate what happens if you do you agriculture

happens if you do you agriculture

happens if you do you agriculture society hunter-gatherers high-tech

society hunter-gatherers high-tech

society hunter-gatherers high-tech societies I quickly found out that a lot

societies I quickly found out that a lot

societies I quickly found out that a lot of data me literature about the owner

of data me literature about the owner

of data me literature about the owner paleo demography what how many people

paleo demography what how many people

paleo demography what how many people could live at the impasse society was

could live at the impasse society was

could live at the impasse society was actually wrong not because our key role

actually wrong not because our key role

actually wrong not because our key role is are stupid but because we’re not too

is are stupid but because we’re not too

is are stupid but because we’re not too keen on math and as my colleague andreas

keen on math and as my colleague andreas

keen on math and as my colleague andreas during demonstrating in speech need this

during demonstrating in speech need this

during demonstrating in speech need this situation there are formulas you can use

situation there are formulas you can use

situation there are formulas you can use when you find the ages of bones in a

when you find the ages of bones in a

when you find the ages of bones in a cemetery and calculate what was the

cemetery and calculate what was the

cemetery and calculate what was the population structure what was the birth

population structure what was the birth

population structure what was the birth rate and death rate at different ages

rate and death rate at different ages

rate and death rate at different ages and these formulas work really well as

and these formulas work really well as

and these formulas work really well as long as the population stays stable this

long as the population stays stable this

long as the population stays stable this is in the classical papers by the

is in the classical papers by the

is in the classical papers by the mathematicians who worked it out and

mathematicians who worked it out and

mathematicians who worked it out and nobody really reads those boring

nobody really reads those boring

nobody really reads those boring footnotes about applicability so many

footnotes about applicability so many

footnotes about applicability so many workers will just assume me but yeah

workers will just assume me but yeah

workers will just assume me but yeah populations were stable but small

populations were stable but small

populations were stable but small populations whether there are survivors

populations whether there are survivors

populations whether there are survivors in a post-apocalyptic world or a small

in a post-apocalyptic world or a small

in a post-apocalyptic world or a small crew in a spaceship or the people living

crew in a spaceship or the people living

crew in a spaceship or the people living in the early medieval South Germany they

in the early medieval South Germany they

in the early medieval South Germany they are fluctuating going up and down a lot

are fluctuating going up and down a lot

are fluctuating going up and down a lot the population you find in the cemetery

the population you find in the cemetery

the population you find in the cemetery are generally much sicker than the

are generally much sicker than the

are generally much sicker than the population living in the village next

population living in the village next

population living in the village next door and if the village is growing

door and if the village is growing

door and if the village is growing you’re not going to find a lot of young

you’re not going to find a lot of young

you’re not going to find a lot of young people so I needed to take that into

people so I needed to take that into

people so I needed to take that into account

account

account there are also all sorts of modeling

there are also all sorts of modeling

there are also all sorts of modeling complications like what is the interval

complications like what is the interval

complications like what is the interval that women can give birth to how do we

that women can give birth to how do we

that women can give birth to how do we organize the families because we

organize the families because we

organize the families because we generally want to avoid incest who are

generally want to avoid incest who are

generally want to avoid incest who are we starting people are their average

we starting people are their average

we starting people are their average population from Earth right now or we

population from Earth right now or we

population from Earth right now or we selected to be really useful so one can

selected to be really useful so one can

selected to be really useful so one can complicate this endlessly which I have

complicate this endlessly which I have

complicate this endlessly which I have of course in my academic papers but the

of course in my academic papers but the

of course in my academic papers but the good news is the ecology seem to be

good news is the ecology seem to be

good news is the ecology seem to be roughly right if you want a 90 percent

roughly right if you want a 90 percent

roughly right if you want a 90 percent certainty that the initial population

certainty that the initial population

certainty that the initial population will survive and thrive a thousand years

will survive and thrive a thousand years

will survive and thrive a thousand years later five thousand people is enough

later five thousand people is enough

later five thousand people is enough this is much more than you can get into

this is much more than you can get into

this is much more than you can get into your nuclear bunker it’s a small town or

your nuclear bunker it’s a small town or

your nuclear bunker it’s a small town or maybe a bigger aircraft carrier but the

maybe a bigger aircraft carrier but the

maybe a bigger aircraft carrier but the small town is probably more likely to

small town is probably more likely to

small town is probably more likely to function really well obviously if after

function really well obviously if after

function really well obviously if after the disaster people also have a lot

the disaster people also have a lot

the disaster people also have a lot kids and they survived really well it

kids and they survived really well it

kids and they survived really well it works better

works better

works better another important thing here is that it

another important thing here is that it

another important thing here is that it might be useful to split into smaller

might be useful to split into smaller

might be useful to split into smaller groups partially because we don’t get

groups partially because we don’t get

groups partially because we don’t get along with two large groups even five

along with two large groups even five

along with two large groups even five thousand people and they are hard to

thousand people and they are hard to

thousand people and they are hard to deal with but it’s also safer because

deal with but it’s also safer because

deal with but it’s also safer because there might still be a epidemics or

there might still be a epidemics or

there might still be a epidemics or allergy sources around so if one smaller

allergy sources around so if one smaller

allergy sources around so if one smaller group and the fails others can take over

group and the fails others can take over

group and the fails others can take over but they need to stay in touch a so

but they need to stay in touch a so

but they need to stay in touch a so called meta population is much more

called meta population is much more

called meta population is much more stable now looking back given all this

stable now looking back given all this

stable now looking back given all this what should we be doing well first of

what should we be doing well first of

what should we be doing well first of all I think we should just get to know

all I think we should just get to know

all I think we should just get to know our neighbors how many of us do you know

our neighbors how many of us do you know

our neighbors how many of us do you know the names of all our neighbors and what

the names of all our neighbors and what

the names of all our neighbors and what we do we might want to hug them we want

we do we might want to hug them we want

we do we might want to hug them we want to be on friendly terms with them maybe

to be on friendly terms with them maybe

to be on friendly terms with them maybe not too friendly depending on who they

not too friendly depending on who they

not too friendly depending on who they are but the point is in most disasters

are but the point is in most disasters

are but the point is in most disasters people are saved medically by their

people are saved medically by their

people are saved medically by their neighbors and in a crisis they can

neighbors and in a crisis they can

neighbors and in a crisis they can really save you

really save you

really save you besides also storing up on

besides also storing up on

besides also storing up on non-perishable food which is good idea

non-perishable food which is good idea

non-perishable food which is good idea anyway if there is a small disaster we

anyway if there is a small disaster we

anyway if there is a small disaster we might also want him to actually work

might also want him to actually work

might also want him to actually work hard on our memory not just store all

hard on our memory not just store all

hard on our memory not just store all our information on DNA which might last

our information on DNA which might last

our information on DNA which might last very long time but also in some solid

very long time but also in some solid

very long time but also in some solid books that you can read without

books that you can read without

books that you can read without electricity small populations have a

electricity small populations have a

electricity small populations have a hard time written in the technology

hard time written in the technology

hard time written in the technology civil society in general is amazingly

civil society in general is amazingly

civil society in general is amazingly resilient and that’s where we should

resilient and that’s where we should

resilient and that’s where we should start rather than getting a gun rack in

start rather than getting a gun rack in

start rather than getting a gun rack in the cave and we want to work on boosting

the cave and we want to work on boosting

the cave and we want to work on boosting our resilience as a society and avoid

our resilience as a society and avoid

our resilience as a society and avoid the threats because many of these frets

the threats because many of these frets

the threats because many of these frets like nuclear war or in an artificial

like nuclear war or in an artificial

like nuclear war or in an artificial panic are probably avoidable in other

panic are probably avoidable in other

panic are probably avoidable in other way since better to avoid them that way

way since better to avoid them that way

way since better to avoid them that way than having a survival publish and

than having a survival publish and

than having a survival publish and finally my job might be to research

finally my job might be to research

finally my job might be to research these things but it’s your job

these things but it’s your job

these things but it’s your job everybody’s job to save humanity and our

everybody’s job to save humanity and our

everybody’s job to save humanity and our civilization thank you

civilization thank you

civilization thank you [Applause]

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