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Síncrotron de 4a geração e o futuro da ciência | Antonio José Roque da Silva | TEDxUnisinos


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well I’ll tell you today it ‘s a

history about equipment that is

being built in meadows as was

mentioned that today is among the

more sophisticated equipment that is

being built in the world and that he

equipment to examine exactly

in this scale of the drawing that is there

that the scale of the acts

so before I got to the equipment

and this story I will tell

you involve more or less more than 30

years of several people who are many

Brazilian players like me right here

this project for almost nine years

this new accelerator but what they are

seeing that today we take with a

almost obvious thing we all in

and spoke and it took centuries to

become a reality that is what

we call the hypothesis and atomic the

that all the stuff that we know

on our scale which is composed of

certain acts this allows you

understand how it works from our

human body even with the materials

function simply by using this

idea illustrates this idea with a

example everyone will get

easily identify which is the

difference between the right diamond and all

world, maybe a good part of the people

the team is using there is a ring

graphite diamond on the tip of a

pencil

I had asked my wife she

thought it was not advisable to bring

her ring here so I give up the

idea to show something but both

diamond as the tip of a pencil

they are with the different materials is

with distinct values and properties

but both are composed of

only by the same type of carbon act

certain that is also in our body

in many ways but in this case in

particular is only the carbon atom and

Why then do you have the same?

type of atom composing these two

materials they are so different

because it is not enough to know the atoms that

make up the material but it is important

also knowing how they are is

connected in the space with the structure that

these atoms are occupying right

This you need some kind of

tool as I can see and

understand these questions that I am

putting you and you are not

so fundamental to us

understand the subject that is what the

atoms that make up the most

in addition what is the distribution and

their structure in space or as

He calls us, so we leave.

tools

We are used to it.

answer questions people use as

tools if I want to

look at something that is small one

magnifying glass and so it will be then let’s see

how physicists do to

see between quotation marks

these things that are so small they

do something that is illustrated

in this drawing there is something to play in the

matter

and this something can be varied you today

they are seeing seeing everybody

because I have a light source that

hit me and arrive at the detector

extremely developed that the eye

yours

sure and has a processor that is the

brain that processes images but you

You need me to play it in me to

to get to you to learn

about me and that’s what we do

commonly to learn about the subject

We throw things at her and these things.

can be the light as we call it

of electromagnetic radiation it only

a little bit of radiation

electromagnetic

but they can be particles like

Talking people can celebrate the neutrons

then this basic idea is that

have been using for a long time.

to investigate the structure of matter

Very well for this I need to

tools right

the light that agents are using to

to see it has no properties

appropriate for me to study something in the

range of acts

So how can I study this?

scale

and then there had to have a set of

several characters in a story that

took more than a century and one of them

first is this bearded gentleman there

top broke yesterday that in 1900 1895 he

discovered something he did not even know what

was and called it x – ray and all

you know the importance of x- ray in

truth was one of the findings that more

quickly

application of one of the applications of

immediately went with his wife

one of the first images he made

She was ask his wife put

hand she had a ring and we

sees the hand of the wife of the

roundabout with the ring

immediately it had application in

medicine but he called it x – ray that

I had no idea what it was

that

It is true that at the beginning

the right stuff and the people

I had no idea what it is and no

they knew it was something like

this light that you are seeing is not

I knew that yet

there the young man who is there

mustachioed means bald in the middle of it

thought here is that this x-ray was

fact what we call waves

electromagnetic

only with the other is the frequency of

oscillation and spoke how I can try

prove it from there

and he wondered if this greeting

of oscillation of this wave was similar

with the distance of the atoms

I’ll realize when playing this x-ray one

certain material

the effect of this interaction will

appear and that is exactly what he

did right

he did an experiment similar to

that is in this drawing where he had

an x – ray source he had a crystal

he played and he realized that this x-ray

was spread in very

specific characteristics or

indicated that this was a wave

electromagnetic father son of the drawing

that is underneath that are the blogs

he immediately sees that the dates are

similar they immediately perceived

that what the lauro was using

to prove that the electromagnetic wave

they could use it to find out where the

acts are in space

and for the first time in history people

now had a tool that could

say how atoms organized themselves in the

space and they did this experiment

the first time with kitchen salt

was the first structure that we beings

humans discovered using an x-ray

where do you put the composition and where?

they are distributed in space

diamond I put the image there in the

I start them in sequence one year

then they were the first to say

any structure of the diamond now to

people knew what the atoms were like

were organized in space

this had such an important impact

sure that today there is the top image

who are looking who are all

molecules linked to life biology

dna

right the double helix on the other side

proteins on the other side of the

virus they use x- rays to know

I do not see this structure as one of the

discoveries more important than

humanity did that was the structure of

DNA rely on these inventions such

discoveries and of this development to

power is you know what is where

so the key of a certain way of life that

the structure of the dna very well continuing

our history

the teams remained concerned about the

structure not only of how the

organization of the atoms was but

is the internal structure of the act itself

Certain what the deed is, in fact.

something indivisible atom has a

structure of what is composed of

this internal structure and you needed

of something besides x-ray for example

In this case, this gentleman here is the

fight on the side of his collaborator

that manages it, everyone must already have

heard the gaga detector

This is the guy who invented the detector.

they were precisely because it

asking at the time what is the

structure within a certain act and to

they used this same idea

to play things in the field

only in the case they used that the

people called it a radioactive source

it was mentioned that we did

nuclear explosions and this will appear

geologically is like a brand of ours

on the land and we only

because these people

started to use these techniques

to understand the structure of matter

so he

he used these radioactive sources

played in the story and discovered that the act

was composed of a core where all the

positive charge was concentrated and

environment had the electrons it was the

first that he has now uncovered which

would be this real structure

the act alone he realized that

to continue to understand what it is for

example the compound core that has

inside the core etc to follow this

way of unraveling the structure of

natural radioactive sources

that he had at his disposal

would be sufficient

he needed sources with greater

energy is an alternative would be the

that many people at the time used

including a Brazilian physicist perhaps

This one has heard the cesar lattes

which used many so-called rays

cosmic particles that had high

energy but he wanted something more

manageable what he is proposing

was then the construction of

particle accelerators for you

be able to accelerate these

increasingly controlled form

energy for you could focus on

and learn about the structure of

and this is what physicists

making since 1930

here is a photo is with strong russia

that the one I just mentioned in the

with two of his students who were

the first to have broken the nucleus

using a

particles down many of you

must have heard accompanied in the

news the great accelerator is in the

the Swiss border crossing the

that recently discovered the

call is the bosom of rics then you

see there has been a continuous progress for

higher energies a consequent

understanding more and more the structure

of the matter

Coming back now, where’s Brazil coming in?

in this story

I’ll now show you there at the end

from the 40’s

physicists were using

accelerators and there is a scene

in the photo in black and white to

you see they will observe a

a light coming out of their accelerator

initially they thought it was

a defect in the accelerator but then they

realized that this was something that

had been predicated on the fact that

which charges when accelerated and

when you have the charges on the accelerator

they are accelerated as we are

riding a car is accelerated

she

emitting radiation or light is the

electromagnetic radiation in the

broad frequency spectrum is the light

that we are using to always call

this lusa that visible from the spectrum a

small part but they are realized that

they had observed for the first time

this light that we call today light

I feel very well

the physicists asked for permission to

the particle physicists who were

building your own accelerators to

fix things

they asked for permission or permission to

these particle physicists to them and

Let’s open a hole in the

the accelerator of these personnel to

extract this simple radiation and

to do this they started to use

this synchrotron radiation that in the

had the right x-ray to investigate the

This has proved so potent.

so important that from the 80’s

you start to have the construction of

dedicated accelerators so the

little diverge because they are part

the same family but it diverges to

the construction of dedicated accelerators

for the extraction of this light that I already

I’ll speak now from now on

about her and nowadays you have

dozens of these five years around the world

right and is a continuous pursuit of the same

way that particle hazards

builds accelerators every time with

greater energy to be able to investigate

internal structure of matter, which

physicists or scientists who use

this synchrotron radiation is the

that we call ever increasing

these machines and they illustrate the

with this drawing that is there with this

image that compares a flashlight with this

hence it is a laser pointer

If the light ends here, someone has a

flashlight

will be a much more useful person to

be followed by what I am with this

laser pointer right because because the

flashlight it has a large area and

angular aperture of this light is great and

good for illuminating large objects

large spaces she made for it

When are we going to take a

x-ray in the hospital

this is what you want even power

illuminate a large part of your body

but see if I want to study something in

range of the right

most of this light is going to

losing will not hit that region

she is not efficient the screen has low

brightness is much better something like

a certain laser tip

and precisely these machines generate

a certain high-brightness x – ray

unlike the equipment you

Are you in the hospital and what do you want?

build accelerators that have the

brightness higher and higher to power

experiments on a scale that

nobody can or with a speed

that nobody can and can explore

situations that are impossible today

to be measured

this growth is a growth

exponential graph there

although he is on a straight line is a

graphic logarithm then this

growth has been exponentially long

of years passing through different

the first and third generations and these

equipment completely changed the

study of matter

right today they are the equipment

more sophisticated than you have price

of matter and because of this all

countries have built five more tones

you see that there is a distribution

huge of him by the right globe due to the

its importance and Brazil was a pioneer

in the southern hemisphere

sure if you go look here have a

a lot of distributed accelerators

the northern hemisphere and has only two

flags or dots in the hemisphere

south and one in australia and brazil

only Brazil was a pioneer to build

the first and this is the dream of

some people in the early

80 who believed that Brazil was capable

to build equipment like this

Certain, we did not have people.

was not aware and we did not

I had no money to build this.

there

but these people did not care

none of these difficulties and have

something very important that today is the

People, I’m going to tell you from here.

little how we are doing

benefiting from this was training people

today someone spoke in the morning lecture

technology is important but more

important of what technology people this

is true and that is exactly what this

project is a project about people

that is had the courage to decide that

in Brazil it was possible to build something

sophisticated as that same

practically everyone did not think

it was possible

it took them ten years of 87 and 97

contract hire young graduates

young physicists and engineers percent

build and put to work this

accelerator if pedro that stays in campinas

and that until today is operating today he

receives more than a thousand people from the

various chemical physical areas

geophysicists

who will do their experiments in

laboratory open in any

Brazil researcher can use is

just submitted the proposal and try

used there very well but where the world

‘re the questions of point of view

people came very well when I

I told you I started a story, it’s in the

beginning of the last century we

construct a series of tools and

we learned a lot about the structure of

matter

certain of what we are made of than the

world is actually done than the

whole universe effect but the questions

and today we have a set of lectures

which address important issues

linked to nutrition and energy

alternatives to health the understanding of

brain and tetra

they involve systems that you want

more than just seeing the structure

atom of a given region of

system

this system I’m showing here a

battery battery could be the battery

of the cars we read in the newspaper that

the countries are all migrating to have

electric cars that in the next 15

years 10 years 20 years is being eliminated

fossil fuels or even engines

combustion

you need better batteries or

these from here like those on cell phones

Ultimately, this battery

has lithium-ion batteries in

lithium are now the most widely used

you have the right website that has to okay

structured and nano particles that

interfaces and

Do you want to see all this set?

in this scale or brain as it once was

mentioned that it is one of the structures

the more complex we have and that

you have to since the scale of the vaccine

those of interaction is where you have

molecules that are exchanged between

neurons to the neurons in

transport them to the organization

these neurons to see these

things and for this you need

of new equipment and this is what the

Brazil is building here today and that

in a sense it is one of the projects

most advanced in the world

So if you remember that one of mine?

first second third

generation where the world today is

where the world is today Brazil is

leading in the fourth generation since

2012 Brazil started to grow in 2009

was the start of the project in 2012

You actually started building

in this new generation that Brazil is

building a new accelerator that will

having one of the brightest is greater than

right world he is actually being

built for when entering

operation that the world ‘s greatest brightness

that will allow you to do

experiments that is not that brazil

has never done any experiments that

world were never made

we are building stations

tomography work.

cells where you can see

and we will have resolution

sufficient to understand the structure of the

dna wrapped inside the right core

this is the kind of experiment the

people are thinking of doing is us

children and we are developing with

is a 100% Brazilian project with

Brazilian technology involving

Brazilian companies that it was impossible to

many said that we would not have

Brazilian companies capable of providing

This is an image of him and is not

100% current is under construction the people

hopes to have the first made us

talks next year and all areas of the

knowledge will benefit

unlike accelerators that focus on

particles in one structure

accelerator fifty years it generates this

ultra-bright x-ray that can

benefit any area of ​​the

knowledge mainly in the world

like today where we both have

issues related to the economy of

knowledge as related to issues

in which we need to understand

better like 11 so matter

environmental issues work with

soil actions nutrition issues

to conclude this story that I came

here to tell you about the project

most successful acim

the Brazilian who started more than 30

years ago and it had a huge impact on

not only in high-impact science

but in the training of human resources

mainly in high technology is

innovation is positioning the

country today is on the international stage

today this is an equipment that is

respect worldwide and leading is

the name of Brazil

it’s not that there’s something great

I like this one here, thank you.

by fifa

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