well this is a police officer’s uniform a Baltimore City police officer in
a Baltimore City police officer in
a Baltimore City police officer in particular named Robert white he gave me
particular named Robert white he gave me
particular named Robert white he gave me this uniform when he and I became the
this uniform when he and I became the
this uniform when he and I became the very best of friends but you know I
very best of friends but you know I
very best of friends but you know I first met Robert well I first heard
first met Robert well I first heard
first met Robert well I first heard about Robert white when I was a teenager
about Robert white when I was a teenager
about Robert white when I was a teenager and then I later met him
and then I later met him
and then I later met him I met him just a month after he got out
I met him just a month after he got out
I met him just a month after he got out of prison he was in prison serving a
of prison he was in prison serving a
of prison he was in prison serving a sentence for assault with intent to
sentence for assault with intent to
sentence for assault with intent to murder two black men with a shotgun and
murder two black men with a shotgun and
murder two black men with a shotgun and another sentence conspiring to bomb a
another sentence conspiring to bomb a
another sentence conspiring to bomb a synagogue in Baltimore now I am a
synagogue in Baltimore now I am a
synagogue in Baltimore now I am a professional musician I tour all over
professional musician I tour all over
professional musician I tour all over this country and around the world
this country and around the world
this country and around the world playing music so how do I end up with a
playing music so how do I end up with a
playing music so how do I end up with a policeman’s uniform he worked for the
policeman’s uniform he worked for the
policeman’s uniform he worked for the police department by day but he also had
police department by day but he also had
police department by day but he also had another job which required a different
another job which required a different
another job which required a different kind of uniform
he was the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux
he was the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan for the state of Maryland this is
Klan for the state of Maryland this is
Klan for the state of Maryland this is his robe this is what he wore when he
his robe this is what he wore when he
his robe this is what he wore when he conspired to bomb the synagogue and when
conspired to bomb the synagogue and when
conspired to bomb the synagogue and when he made plans to kill two Blackmun with
he made plans to kill two Blackmun with
he made plans to kill two Blackmun with a shotgun to understand why I have these
a shotgun to understand why I have these
a shotgun to understand why I have these items let’s take a little journey back
items let’s take a little journey back
items let’s take a little journey back in my life I was born in Chicago in 1958
in my life I was born in Chicago in 1958
in my life I was born in Chicago in 1958 at the age of 10 in 1968 my parents had
at the age of 10 in 1968 my parents had
at the age of 10 in 1968 my parents had moved to Belmont Massachusetts a suburb
moved to Belmont Massachusetts a suburb
moved to Belmont Massachusetts a suburb of Boston I was one of two black kids in
of Boston I was one of two black kids in
of Boston I was one of two black kids in the entire area at least in the school I
the entire area at least in the school I
the entire area at least in the school I joined the Cub Scouts at the age of 10
joined the Cub Scouts at the age of 10
joined the Cub Scouts at the age of 10 at the invitation of someone one of my
at the invitation of someone one of my
at the invitation of someone one of my white male friends and we had a march
white male friends and we had a march
white male friends and we had a march from Lexington to Concord to commemorate
from Lexington to Concord to commemorate
from Lexington to Concord to commemorate the ride of Paul Revere my den mother
the ride of Paul Revere my den mother
the ride of Paul Revere my den mother let me carry the American flag and as I
let me carry the American flag and as I
let me carry the American flag and as I was marching as the only black Scout in
was marching as the only black Scout in
was marching as the only black Scout in this parade along with the Girl Scouts
this parade along with the Girl Scouts
this parade along with the Girl Scouts Boy Scouts Cub Scouts and brownies
Boy Scouts Cub Scouts and brownies
Boy Scouts Cub Scouts and brownies I think 4-h club was there at some other
I think 4-h club was there at some other
I think 4-h club was there at some other organizations as I was marching down the
organizations as I was marching down the
organizations as I was marching down the street somewhere along the parade route
street somewhere along the parade route
street somewhere along the parade route I began getting hit with bottles soda
I began getting hit with bottles soda
I began getting hit with bottles soda pop cans rocks and debris from the
pop cans rocks and debris from the
pop cans rocks and debris from the street by just a small group of white
street by just a small group of white
street by just a small group of white spectators mixed in with the all-white
spectators mixed in with the all-white
spectators mixed in with the all-white crowd on the sidewalk this was the first
crowd on the sidewalk this was the first
crowd on the sidewalk this was the first time I ever experienced anything like
time I ever experienced anything like
time I ever experienced anything like this and I did not understand
this and I did not understand
this and I did not understand I thought perhaps those people did not
I thought perhaps those people did not
I thought perhaps those people did not like the scouts I did not realize I was
like the scouts I did not realize I was
like the scouts I did not realize I was the only scout getting hit until my den
the only scout getting hit until my den
the only scout getting hit until my den mother and the other Scout leaders came
mother and the other Scout leaders came
mother and the other Scout leaders came rushing over and huddled over me with
rushing over and huddled over me with
rushing over and huddled over me with their bodies and escorted me out of the
their bodies and escorted me out of the
their bodies and escorted me out of the danger they never explained why even
danger they never explained why even
danger they never explained why even though I kept asking why they hitting me
though I kept asking why they hitting me
though I kept asking why they hitting me why they hitting me
why they hitting me
why they hitting me what did I what had I done wrong when I
what did I what had I done wrong when I
what did I what had I done wrong when I got home my mother and father who were
got home my mother and father who were
got home my mother and father who were not at the March were fixing me up with
not at the March were fixing me up with
not at the March were fixing me up with mercurochrome and band-aids and
mercurochrome and band-aids and
mercurochrome and band-aids and to me how did you fall down and get all
to me how did you fall down and get all
to me how did you fall down and get all scraped up I told them I didn’t fall
scraped up I told them I didn’t fall
scraped up I told them I didn’t fall down I told them exactly what happened
down I told them exactly what happened
down I told them exactly what happened for the first time in my life my parents
for the first time in my life my parents
for the first time in my life my parents sat me down at the age of 10 and
sat me down at the age of 10 and
sat me down at the age of 10 and explained racism to me I had absolutely
explained racism to me I had absolutely
explained racism to me I had absolutely no idea what they were talking about it
no idea what they were talking about it
no idea what they were talking about it was inconceivable to me that someone who
was inconceivable to me that someone who
was inconceivable to me that someone who had never laid eyes on me never spoken
had never laid eyes on me never spoken
had never laid eyes on me never spoken to me knew absolutely nothing about me
to me knew absolutely nothing about me
to me knew absolutely nothing about me would want to inflict pain upon me for
would want to inflict pain upon me for
would want to inflict pain upon me for no other reason than this the color of
no other reason than this the color of
no other reason than this the color of my skin so I did not believe my parents
my skin so I did not believe my parents
my skin so I did not believe my parents but more and more incidents began
but more and more incidents began
but more and more incidents began happening and I realized my parents that
happening and I realized my parents that
happening and I realized my parents that told me the truth I didn’t know why
told me the truth I didn’t know why
told me the truth I didn’t know why people felt that way but I realized that
people felt that way but I realized that
people felt that way but I realized that there were some people who did so at the
there were some people who did so at the
there were some people who did so at the age of 10 I formed a question in my mind
age of 10 I formed a question in my mind
age of 10 I formed a question in my mind that question was how can you hate me
that question was how can you hate me
that question was how can you hate me when you don’t even know me so I grew up
when you don’t even know me so I grew up
when you don’t even know me so I grew up in my adolescent years spending a lot of
in my adolescent years spending a lot of
in my adolescent years spending a lot of time buying books on black supremacy
time buying books on black supremacy
time buying books on black supremacy white supremacy the Nazis in Germany the
white supremacy the Nazis in Germany the
white supremacy the Nazis in Germany the neo-nazis over here the Ku Klux Klan
neo-nazis over here the Ku Klux Klan
neo-nazis over here the Ku Klux Klan anti-semitism trying to understand that
anti-semitism trying to understand that
anti-semitism trying to understand that ideology trying to get the answer to my
ideology trying to get the answer to my
ideology trying to get the answer to my question how can you hate me when you
question how can you hate me when you
question how can you hate me when you don’t even know me none of these books
don’t even know me none of these books
don’t even know me none of these books provided the answer so then in my adult
provided the answer so then in my adult
provided the answer so then in my adult life I thought you know what who better
life I thought you know what who better
life I thought you know what who better to ask how can you hate me when you
to ask how can you hate me when you
to ask how can you hate me when you don’t even know me then someone who
don’t even know me then someone who
don’t even know me then someone who would join an organization whose
would join an organization whose
would join an organization whose historical premise has been hating those
historical premise has been hating those
historical premise has been hating those who do not look like them and who do not
who do not look like them and who do not
who do not look like them and who do not believe as they believe so I had my
believe as they believe so I had my
believe as they believe so I had my secretary who books my bands and all
secretary who books my bands and all
secretary who books my bands and all kind of stuff I said listen I want you
kind of stuff I said listen I want you
kind of stuff I said listen I want you to get a hold of this guy his name is
to get a hold of this guy his name is
to get a hold of this guy his name is Roger Kelly I acquired mr. Kelly’s phone
Roger Kelly I acquired mr. Kelly’s phone
Roger Kelly I acquired mr. Kelly’s phone number mr. Kelly is what’s known as the
number mr. Kelly is what’s known as the
number mr. Kelly is what’s known as the Imperial wizard Bob White was a grand
Imperial wizard Bob White was a grand
Imperial wizard Bob White was a grand dragon meeting state leader Imperial
dragon meeting state leader Imperial
dragon meeting state leader Imperial wizard is a national leader in the Ku
wizard is a national leader in the Ku
wizard is a national leader in the Ku Klux Klan I was told do not fool with
Klux Klan I was told do not fool with
Klux Klan I was told do not fool with mr. Kelly Daryl he will kill you
mr. Kelly Daryl he will kill you
mr. Kelly Daryl he will kill you but I had to have the answer to my
but I had to have the answer to my
but I had to have the answer to my question I was hoping it wouldn’t be the
question I was hoping it wouldn’t be the
question I was hoping it wouldn’t be the final answer if I met him so I gave Mary
final answer if I met him so I gave Mary
final answer if I met him so I gave Mary his phone number and said give him a
his phone number and said give him a
his phone number and said give him a call do not tell him that I’m black but
call do not tell him that I’m black but
call do not tell him that I’m black but see if you’ll sit down and and give your
see if you’ll sit down and and give your
see if you’ll sit down and and give your boss an interview who wants to discuss
boss an interview who wants to discuss
boss an interview who wants to discuss the Ku Klux Klan so she did mr. Kelly
the Ku Klux Klan so she did mr. Kelly
the Ku Klux Klan so she did mr. Kelly agreed so we reserved a motel room Mary
agreed so we reserved a motel room Mary
agreed so we reserved a motel room Mary and I got there early right on time to
and I got there early right on time to
and I got there early right on time to the minute there was a knock on the door
the minute there was a knock on the door
the minute there was a knock on the door Mary hops up and runs around the corner
Mary hops up and runs around the corner
Mary hops up and runs around the corner opens the door in walks mr. Kelly and
opens the door in walks mr. Kelly and
opens the door in walks mr. Kelly and his bodyguard the bodyguard was armed
his bodyguard the bodyguard was armed
his bodyguard the bodyguard was armed the sidearm right here on his hip when
the sidearm right here on his hip when
the sidearm right here on his hip when they saw me these kind of like froze
they saw me these kind of like froze
they saw me these kind of like froze because either they were stretching the
because either they were stretching the
because either they were stretching the white guy and I stood up and went like
white guy and I stood up and went like
white guy and I stood up and went like this to show I had nothing in my hands
this to show I had nothing in my hands
this to show I had nothing in my hands and I approached I said hi mr. Kelly I’m
and I approached I said hi mr. Kelly I’m
and I approached I said hi mr. Kelly I’m Darrell Davis he shook my hand the
Darrell Davis he shook my hand the
Darrell Davis he shook my hand the bodyguard shook my hand said come on and
bodyguard shook my hand said come on and
bodyguard shook my hand said come on and come on and have a seat have a seat
come on and have a seat have a seat
come on and have a seat have a seat mr. Kelly sat down and the bodyguard
mr. Kelly sat down and the bodyguard
mr. Kelly sat down and the bodyguard stood at attention to his right and we
stood at attention to his right and we
stood at attention to his right and we conversed agreed on some things
conversed agreed on some things
conversed agreed on some things disagreed on other things but he let me
disagreed on other things but he let me
disagreed on other things but he let me know he let me know that I was not his
know he let me know that I was not his
know he let me know that I was not his equal I was inferior he was superior and
equal I was inferior he was superior and
equal I was inferior he was superior and this was justified and determined by the
this was justified and determined by the
this was justified and determined by the color of my skin I wasn’t there to fight
color of my skin I wasn’t there to fight
color of my skin I wasn’t there to fight him I was there to learn from him where
him I was there to learn from him where
him I was there to learn from him where does this ideology come from because
does this ideology come from because
does this ideology come from because once you learn where it comes from you
once you learn where it comes from you
once you learn where it comes from you can then try to figure out how to
can then try to figure out how to
can then try to figure out how to address it and see where it’s going so
address it and see where it’s going so
address it and see where it’s going so we continued conversing maybe about a
we continued conversing maybe about a
we continued conversing maybe about a little over an hour into this interview
little over an hour into this interview
little over an hour into this interview there’s kind of a strange noise in the
there’s kind of a strange noise in the
there’s kind of a strange noise in the room cut off Clark and we all jumped and
room cut off Clark and we all jumped and
room cut off Clark and we all jumped and I popped up out of my seat through the
I popped up out of my seat through the
I popped up out of my seat through the table between us and I was ready to come
table between us and I was ready to come
table between us and I was ready to come across that table and take down mr.
across that table and take down mr.
across that table and take down mr. Kelly and the bodyguard because I knew
Kelly and the bodyguard because I knew
Kelly and the bodyguard because I knew that mr. Kelly had made that noise I
that mr. Kelly had made that noise I
that mr. Kelly had made that noise I didn’t know what that noise was I could
didn’t know what that noise was I could
didn’t know what that noise was I could not discern it and I kept hearing the
not discern it and I kept hearing the
not discern it and I kept hearing the voice of the person who gave me his
voice of the person who gave me his
voice of the person who gave me his phone number saying Darrell do not fool
phone number saying Darrell do not fool
phone number saying Darrell do not fool with Roger Kelly he will kill you I do
with Roger Kelly he will kill you I do
with Roger Kelly he will kill you I do not want to die that day but I knew that
not want to die that day but I knew that
not want to die that day but I knew that he made the noise and
he made the noise and
he made the noise and I think what did I just deal what did I
I think what did I just deal what did I
I think what did I just deal what did I just say to caution to make some kind of
just say to caution to make some kind of
just say to caution to make some kind of weird noise and you know I’d gone into
weird noise and you know I’d gone into
weird noise and you know I’d gone into what you call survival mode and survival
what you call survival mode and survival
what you call survival mode and survival mode people will do one of three things
mode people will do one of three things
mode people will do one of three things some people you know when you fear for
some people you know when you fear for
some people you know when you fear for your life some people will just tense up
your life some people will just tense up
your life some people will just tense up and start shaking and you can be taking
and start shaking and you can be taking
and start shaking and you can be taking a hammer or bat and hitting them on the
a hammer or bat and hitting them on the
a hammer or bat and hitting them on the head and they will not even be
head and they will not even be
head and they will not even be deflecting the blow just be like this
deflecting the blow just be like this
deflecting the blow just be like this that is called paralysis by fear and it
that is called paralysis by fear and it
that is called paralysis by fear and it is a real thing
is a real thing
is a real thing the second thing people will do is they
the second thing people will do is they
the second thing people will do is they will try to run away as quickly as
will try to run away as quickly as
will try to run away as quickly as possible to put as much distance between
possible to put as much distance between
possible to put as much distance between the source of the fear and themselves
the source of the fear and themselves
the source of the fear and themselves that is the best option if you can do
that is the best option if you can do
that is the best option if you can do that however it was not an option for me
that however it was not an option for me
that however it was not an option for me because you cannot outrun a bullet in a
because you cannot outrun a bullet in a
because you cannot outrun a bullet in a motel room
motel room
motel room I was not armed neither was my secretary
I was not armed neither was my secretary
I was not armed neither was my secretary the only person I know for sure who was
the only person I know for sure who was
the only person I know for sure who was armed was the bodyguard you can see his
armed was the bodyguard you can see his
armed was the bodyguard you can see his weapon right here I did not know as mr.
weapon right here I did not know as mr.
weapon right here I did not know as mr. Kelley had a weapon up under his jacket
Kelley had a weapon up under his jacket
Kelley had a weapon up under his jacket or not he was wearing our dark blue suit
or not he was wearing our dark blue suit
or not he was wearing our dark blue suit and tie the third option is do a
and tie the third option is do a
and tie the third option is do a preemptive strike to mitigate the danger
preemptive strike to mitigate the danger
preemptive strike to mitigate the danger in other words get them before they get
in other words get them before they get
in other words get them before they get you so I was about to do that and when I
you so I was about to do that and when I
you so I was about to do that and when I came up out of my seat I was looking
came up out of my seat I was looking
came up out of my seat I was looking right into mr. Kelly’s eyes I didn’t say
right into mr. Kelly’s eyes I didn’t say
right into mr. Kelly’s eyes I didn’t say a word but my eyes were speaking loud
a word but my eyes were speaking loud
a word but my eyes were speaking loud and clear in fact my eyes were shouting
and clear in fact my eyes were shouting
and clear in fact my eyes were shouting so loud he could hear my eyes my eyes
so loud he could hear my eyes my eyes
so loud he could hear my eyes my eyes were saying to him what did you just do
were saying to him what did you just do
were saying to him what did you just do well mr. Kelly’s eyes had fixated upon
well mr. Kelly’s eyes had fixated upon
well mr. Kelly’s eyes had fixated upon mine and his eyes were silently asking
mine and his eyes were silently asking
mine and his eyes were silently asking me the same question where the bodyguard
me the same question where the bodyguard
me the same question where the bodyguard had his hand on his gun
had his hand on his gun
had his hand on his gun but him back and forth between the clan
but him back and forth between the clan
but him back and forth between the clan leader and me like what did either one
leader and me like what did either one
leader and me like what did either one of y’all just do well Mary she realized
of y’all just do well Mary she realized
of y’all just do well Mary she realized what happened
what happened
what happened she had filled the hotel room ice bucket
she had filled the hotel room ice bucket
she had filled the hotel room ice bucket with ice and put some cans of soda in
with ice and put some cans of soda in
with ice and put some cans of soda in there to get them cold to be hospitable
there to get them cold to be hospitable
there to get them cold to be hospitable and offer mr. Kelly a beverage the ice
and offer mr. Kelly a beverage the ice
and offer mr. Kelly a beverage the ice had melted and the cans came cascading
had melted and the cans came cascading
had melted and the cans came cascading down the ice and then it made that same
down the ice and then it made that same
down the ice and then it made that same noise and we all began laughing at how
noise and we all began laughing at how
noise and we all began laughing at how ignorant we all had been now I won’t say
ignorant we all had been now I won’t say
ignorant we all had been now I won’t say this was a learning moment
this was a learning moment
this was a learning moment but it was definitely a teaching moment
but it was definitely a teaching moment
but it was definitely a teaching moment and what was taught was this all because
and what was taught was this all because
and what was taught was this all because some foreign and underscore highlights
some foreign and underscore highlights
some foreign and underscore highlights circle the word foreign entity of which
circle the word foreign entity of which
circle the word foreign entity of which we were ignorant being the bucket of ice
we were ignorant being the bucket of ice
we were ignorant being the bucket of ice in Kansas Soda entered into our little
in Kansas Soda entered into our little
in Kansas Soda entered into our little comfort zone via the noise that it made
comfort zone via the noise that it made
comfort zone via the noise that it made we all became fearful and accusatory of
we all became fearful and accusatory of
we all became fearful and accusatory of one another
one another
one another thus ignorance breeds fear we fear those
thus ignorance breeds fear we fear those
thus ignorance breeds fear we fear those things we do not understand if we do not
things we do not understand if we do not
things we do not understand if we do not keep that fear in check that fear in
keep that fear in check that fear in
keep that fear in check that fear in turn will breathe hatred because we hate
turn will breathe hatred because we hate
turn will breathe hatred because we hate those things that frighten us if we do
those things that frighten us if we do
those things that frighten us if we do not keep that hatred in check that
not keep that hatred in check that
not keep that hatred in check that hatred in turn will breed destruction we
hatred in turn will breed destruction we
hatred in turn will breed destruction we want to destroy those things that we
want to destroy those things that we
want to destroy those things that we hate why because it caused us to be
hate why because it caused us to be
hate why because it caused us to be afraid but guess what they may have been
afraid but guess what they may have been
afraid but guess what they may have been harmless and we were just ignorant we
harmless and we were just ignorant we
harmless and we were just ignorant we saw the whole chain almost unravel to
saw the whole chain almost unravel to
saw the whole chain almost unravel to completion had the bodyguard drawn his
completion had the bodyguard drawn his
completion had the bodyguard drawn his gun and shot namely me or my secretary
gun and shot namely me or my secretary
gun and shot namely me or my secretary because it’s his job to protect his boss
because it’s his job to protect his boss
because it’s his job to protect his boss and protect himself or had I pounced and
and protect himself or had I pounced and
and protect himself or had I pounced and hurt one of them trying to protect
hurt one of them trying to protect
hurt one of them trying to protect myself or my secretary we did see we did
myself or my secretary we did see we did
myself or my secretary we did see we did see that whole chain unravel to
see that whole chain unravel to
see that whole chain unravel to completion three months ago
completion three months ago
completion three months ago in Charlottesville Virginia two hours
in Charlottesville Virginia two hours
in Charlottesville Virginia two hours from where I live because ignorance was
from where I live because ignorance was
from where I live because ignorance was present fear was present hatred was
present fear was present hatred was
present fear was present hatred was present and destruction occurred when a
present and destruction occurred when a
present and destruction occurred when a white supremacist got in his car and
white supremacist got in his car and
white supremacist got in his car and tried to mow down people and resulted in
tried to mow down people and resulted in
tried to mow down people and resulted in killing one young lady named Heather
killing one young lady named Heather
killing one young lady named Heather hire so we carried on with this
hire so we carried on with this
hire so we carried on with this interview no more incidents I would
interview no more incidents I would
interview no more incidents I would invite mr. Kelly to my home he would
invite mr. Kelly to my home he would
invite mr. Kelly to my home he would come to my home he bring his bodyguard
come to my home he bring his bodyguard
come to my home he bring his bodyguard bodyguard would sit on the couch next to
bodyguard would sit on the couch next to
bodyguard would sit on the couch next to him sometimes the bodyguard would get
him sometimes the bodyguard would get
him sometimes the bodyguard would get bored pull out his gun and start
bored pull out his gun and start
bored pull out his gun and start twirling it on his finger like this
twirling it on his finger like this
twirling it on his finger like this while mr. Kelly and I talked I would
while mr. Kelly and I talked I would
while mr. Kelly and I talked I would invite over some of my other friends my
invite over some of my other friends my
invite over some of my other friends my Jewish friends my black friends my white
Jewish friends my black friends my white
Jewish friends my black friends my white friends are the people just to engage in
friends are the people just to engage in
friends are the people just to engage in conversation with
conversation with
conversation with to Kelly other than me I want him to
to Kelly other than me I want him to
to Kelly other than me I want him to experience different people this went
experience different people this went
experience different people this went off for a couple years he did not invite
off for a couple years he did not invite
off for a couple years he did not invite me to his own but he would have dinner
me to his own but he would have dinner
me to his own but he would have dinner or lunch at my table with me
or lunch at my table with me
or lunch at my table with me this is inferior person that he deemed
this is inferior person that he deemed
this is inferior person that he deemed not his equal after a couple years he
not his equal after a couple years he
not his equal after a couple years he began coming down to my house by himself
began coming down to my house by himself
began coming down to my house by himself a national leader in the Ku Klux Klan
a national leader in the Ku Klux Klan
a national leader in the Ku Klux Klan and then he began inviting me to his
and then he began inviting me to his
and then he began inviting me to his house I would see his Klan den and I
house I would see his Klan den and I
house I would see his Klan den and I would take pictures and take notes for
would take pictures and take notes for
would take pictures and take notes for my for my my own knowledge and things
my for my my own knowledge and things
my for my my own knowledge and things then he began inviting me to Klan
then he began inviting me to Klan
then he began inviting me to Klan rallies I’ve go to these Klan rallies
rallies I’ve go to these Klan rallies
rallies I’ve go to these Klan rallies that have a 20 or 30 foot cross wooden
that have a 20 or 30 foot cross wooden
that have a 20 or 30 foot cross wooden cross to beans tied together wrapped in
cross to beans tied together wrapped in
cross to beans tied together wrapped in burlap the burlap was soaked in what
burlap the burlap was soaked in what
burlap the burlap was soaked in what they call Klan Cologne
they call Klan Cologne
they call Klan Cologne otherwise known as diesel fuel or
otherwise known as diesel fuel or
otherwise known as diesel fuel or kerosene and Klansmen and clans women in
kerosene and Klansmen and clans women in
kerosene and Klansmen and clans women in their robes and hoods and torches were
their robes and hoods and torches were
their robes and hoods and torches were paraded around in a circle around the
paraded around in a circle around the
paraded around in a circle around the cross and either the Grand Dragon or
cross and either the Grand Dragon or
cross and either the Grand Dragon or Imperial wizard would say Klansmen halt
Imperial wizard would say Klansmen halt
Imperial wizard would say Klansmen halt and they’d all stop then he’d say for
and they’d all stop then he’d say for
and they’d all stop then he’d say for God and they say for God for a race for
God and they say for God for a race for
God and they say for God for a race for a race for country for country Klansmen
a race for country for country Klansmen
a race for country for country Klansmen have broached the cross and it all
have broached the cross and it all
have broached the cross and it all closed in to the base of the cross
closed in to the base of the cross
closed in to the base of the cross Klansmen light the cross and they throw
Klansmen light the cross and they throw
Klansmen light the cross and they throw their torch down at the foot and whoosh
their torch down at the foot and whoosh
their torch down at the foot and whoosh this big cross would be on fire there
this big cross would be on fire there
this big cross would be on fire there you go there’s one one rally such rally
you go there’s one one rally such rally
you go there’s one one rally such rally with the Klansmen that’s conversing with
with the Klansmen that’s conversing with
with the Klansmen that’s conversing with the Klan at a rally and here’s a rally
the Klan at a rally and here’s a rally
the Klan at a rally and here’s a rally with the cross on fire now they would
with the cross on fire now they would
with the cross on fire now they would give speeches I would take more notes
give speeches I would take more notes
give speeches I would take more notes and try to absorb and try to understand
and try to absorb and try to understand
and try to absorb and try to understand not that I’m believing in what they’re
not that I’m believing in what they’re
not that I’m believing in what they’re preaching but I’m trying to learn and
preaching but I’m trying to learn and
preaching but I’m trying to learn and understand what is the impetus for it so
understand what is the impetus for it so
understand what is the impetus for it so as for awhile
as for awhile
as for awhile CNN got wind of this and wanted to do a
CNN got wind of this and wanted to do a
CNN got wind of this and wanted to do a story on me they knew me as a musician
story on me they knew me as a musician
story on me they knew me as a musician they knew who mr. Kelley was as a Klan
they knew who mr. Kelley was as a Klan
they knew who mr. Kelley was as a Klan leader so they followed me to a rally
leader so they followed me to a rally
leader so they followed me to a rally first they came to my gig on Friday
first they came to my gig on Friday
first they came to my gig on Friday night to show what I really do and then
night to show what I really do and then
night to show what I really do and then Saturday morning they followed me to a
Saturday morning they followed me to a
Saturday morning they followed me to a Klan rally two hours from my house and
Klan rally two hours from my house and
Klan rally two hours from my house and they said to me do you
they said to me do you
they said to me do you thank mr. Kelly will even talk to us I
thank mr. Kelly will even talk to us I
thank mr. Kelly will even talk to us I said I will do better than that
said I will do better than that
said I will do better than that when this rally is over I will get mr.
when this rally is over I will get mr.
when this rally is over I will get mr. Kelly the Imperial wizard of the clan to
Kelly the Imperial wizard of the clan to
Kelly the Imperial wizard of the clan to come to my house and you can interview
come to my house and you can interview
come to my house and you can interview the clan leader inside a black man’s
the clan leader inside a black man’s
the clan leader inside a black man’s house I said oh okay so they filmed the
house I said oh okay so they filmed the
house I said oh okay so they filmed the rally and when the rally was over I
rally and when the rally was over I
rally and when the rally was over I spoke with Roger Kelly told him what was
spoke with Roger Kelly told him what was
spoke with Roger Kelly told him what was going on and he agreed he drove without
going on and he agreed he drove without
going on and he agreed he drove without his bodyguard
his bodyguard
his bodyguard two hours out of his way sat in my
two hours out of his way sat in my
two hours out of his way sat in my basement and interviewed was CNN and I’m
basement and interviewed was CNN and I’m
basement and interviewed was CNN and I’m gonna end this clip was shown every hour
gonna end this clip was shown every hour
gonna end this clip was shown every hour for 24 hours all over the world I want
for 24 hours all over the world I want
for 24 hours all over the world I want to show it to you right now and I want
to show it to you right now and I want
to show it to you right now and I want you to pay particular attention to what
you to pay particular attention to what
you to pay particular attention to what mr. Kelly says he says that even though
mr. Kelly says he says that even though
mr. Kelly says he says that even though he and I would do different things
he and I would do different things
he and I would do different things together it did not change his views on
together it did not change his views on
together it did not change his views on the Klan because his views from the Klan
the Klan because his views from the Klan
the Klan because his views from the Klan had been cemented in his mind for years
had been cemented in his mind for years
had been cemented in his mind for years then he goes on to say how he believes
then he goes on to say how he believes
then he goes on to say how he believes in separation of the races because he
in separation of the races because he
in separation of the races because he finds that to be in the best interests
finds that to be in the best interests
finds that to be in the best interests of all races but listen to what he says
of all races but listen to what he says
of all races but listen to what he says about respect towards the end of the
about respect towards the end of the
about respect towards the end of the clip please show the clip Davis is one
clip please show the clip Davis is one
clip please show the clip Davis is one of the few african-americans you will
of the few african-americans you will
of the few african-americans you will ever find attending a KKK rally more
ever find attending a KKK rally more
ever find attending a KKK rally more than attending he is welcome it’s been a
than attending he is welcome it’s been a
than attending he is welcome it’s been a tough day for the Klan their Maryland
tough day for the Klan their Maryland
tough day for the Klan their Maryland rally found many local residents
rally found many local residents
rally found many local residents rejecting the message of white
rejecting the message of white
rejecting the message of white separatism after it’s over Darrell Davis
separatism after it’s over Darrell Davis
separatism after it’s over Darrell Davis hangs around backstage with his friend
hangs around backstage with his friend
hangs around backstage with his friend Klan wizard Roger Kelly
it’s not unusual for blacks and whites
it’s not unusual for blacks and whites to be friends but it is unusual to find
to be friends but it is unusual to find
to be friends but it is unusual to find a black man in a Klan leader chatting
a black man in a Klan leader chatting
a black man in a Klan leader chatting pleasantly over an orange soda after a
pleasantly over an orange soda after a
pleasantly over an orange soda after a Klan rally the relationship started over
Klan rally the relationship started over
Klan rally the relationship started over a book Davis was writing the secretary
a book Davis was writing the secretary
a book Davis was writing the secretary set up an interview with Roger Kelly but
set up an interview with Roger Kelly but
set up an interview with Roger Kelly but didn’t tell him Davis was black they
didn’t tell him Davis was black they
didn’t tell him Davis was black they talked and talked some more
talked and talked some more
talked and talked some more Davis hurting about the Klan Kelly
Davis hurting about the Klan Kelly
Davis hurting about the Klan Kelly learning about Davis we get to know one
learning about Davis we get to know one
learning about Davis we get to know one another and we do different things you
another and we do different things you
another and we do different things you know it’s it hasn’t changed my views
know it’s it hasn’t changed my views
know it’s it hasn’t changed my views about the Klan you know because my views
about the Klan you know because my views
about the Klan you know because my views on the Klan has been pretty much
on the Klan has been pretty much
on the Klan has been pretty much cemented in my mind for years Kelly and
cemented in my mind for years Kelly and
cemented in my mind for years Kelly and his Klan friends go to hear Davis and
his Klan friends go to hear Davis and
his Klan friends go to hear Davis and his band
and Davis goes to their rallies i sat on
and Davis goes to their rallies i sat on the front row and I listened to each all
the front row and I listened to each all
the front row and I listened to each all kinds Minh speak some things I agreed
kinds Minh speak some things I agreed
kinds Minh speak some things I agreed with other things they did not agree
with other things they did not agree
with other things they did not agree with Davis thinks that his presence
with Davis thinks that his presence
with Davis thinks that his presence promotes badly needed understanding hate
promotes badly needed understanding hate
promotes badly needed understanding hate stems I believe from fear a fear of the
stems I believe from fear a fear of the
stems I believe from fear a fear of the unknown and I think this is all across
unknown and I think this is all across
unknown and I think this is all across the board regardless of whether it’s a
the board regardless of whether it’s a
the board regardless of whether it’s a Klansmen or anything else but he has no
Klansmen or anything else but he has no
Klansmen or anything else but he has no illusions about the Klan if he did his
illusions about the Klan if he did his
illusions about the Klan if he did his friend would be quick to disabuse them
friend would be quick to disabuse them
friend would be quick to disabuse them and I believe in separation of the races
and I believe in separation of the races
and I believe in separation of the races I believe that’s in the best interest of
I believe that’s in the best interest of
I believe that’s in the best interest of all races does he really has friendship
all races does he really has friendship
all races does he really has friendship transcended the color barrier listen to
transcended the color barrier listen to
transcended the color barrier listen to Kelly a Klan rally the strange
Kelly a Klan rally the strange
Kelly a Klan rally the strange relationship of a KKK wizard and his
relationship of a KKK wizard and his
relationship of a KKK wizard and his black buddy
black buddy
black buddy in Washington I’m call Hill show CNN
in Washington I’m call Hill show CNN
in Washington I’m call Hill show CNN Sunday morning respect is the key
Sunday morning respect is the key
Sunday morning respect is the key sitting down and talking not necessarily
sitting down and talking not necessarily
sitting down and talking not necessarily agreeing but respecting each other to
agreeing but respecting each other to
agreeing but respecting each other to air their points of view because of that
air their points of view because of that
air their points of view because of that respect and my willingness to listen and
respect and my willingness to listen and
respect and my willingness to listen and his words to listen to me he ended up
his words to listen to me he ended up
his words to listen to me he ended up leaving the Klan and there’s his robe
leaving the Klan and there’s his robe
leaving the Klan and there’s his robe right there I am a musician not a
right there I am a musician not a
right there I am a musician not a psychologists or sociologists if I can
psychologists or sociologists if I can
psychologists or sociologists if I can do that anybody in here can do that take
do that anybody in here can do that take
do that anybody in here can do that take the time to sit down and talk with your
the time to sit down and talk with your
the time to sit down and talk with your adversaries you will learn something and
adversaries you will learn something and
adversaries you will learn something and they will learn something from you when
they will learn something from you when
they will learn something from you when two enemies are talking they’re not
two enemies are talking they’re not
two enemies are talking they’re not fighting they’re talking is when the
fighting they’re talking is when the
fighting they’re talking is when the talking ceases that the ground becomes
talking ceases that the ground becomes
talking ceases that the ground becomes fertile for violence so keep the
fertile for violence so keep the
fertile for violence so keep the conversation going
conversation going
conversation going thank you all very much
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