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The Jealousy of Emotions and Sex | Leif Edward Ottesen Kennair | TEDxTrondheim


here’s a question for you how do you get

here’s a question for you how do you get 16 million Direct Mail line descendants

16 million Direct Mail line descendants

16 million Direct Mail line descendants jenga’s can’t might have how I know what

jenga’s can’t might have how I know what

jenga’s can’t might have how I know what you’re thinking not that my explanation

you’re thinking not that my explanation

you’re thinking not that my explanation is male sexual jealousy so what is

is male sexual jealousy so what is

is male sexual jealousy so what is jealousy jealous is a basic aversive

jealousy jealous is a basic aversive

jealousy jealous is a basic aversive emotion that motivates us to protect our

emotion that motivates us to protect our

emotion that motivates us to protect our relationship from breakup and infidelity

relationship from breakup and infidelity

relationship from breakup and infidelity jealousy motivates mate guarding

jealousy motivates mate guarding

jealousy motivates mate guarding vigilance and mate retention tactics

vigilance and mate retention tactics

vigilance and mate retention tactics jealousy is painful

jealousy is painful

jealousy is painful it’s a dangerous emotion it makes us

it’s a dangerous emotion it makes us

it’s a dangerous emotion it makes us possessive and it makes us violent but

possessive and it makes us violent but

possessive and it makes us violent but without jealousy we wouldn’t have pair

without jealousy we wouldn’t have pair

without jealousy we wouldn’t have pair bonding or love so how did we humans

bonding or love so how did we humans

bonding or love so how did we humans become able to be jealous before we get

become able to be jealous before we get

become able to be jealous before we get on with the sciency bits jealousy was

on with the sciency bits jealousy was

on with the sciency bits jealousy was evident in our culture literature and

evident in our culture literature and

evident in our culture literature and legal practices long before we knew

legal practices long before we knew

legal practices long before we knew anything about evolution or genetics

anything about evolution or genetics

anything about evolution or genetics long before we had the rudiments of a

long before we had the rudiments of a

long before we had the rudiments of a basic science of emotions Shakespeare

basic science of emotions Shakespeare

basic science of emotions Shakespeare wrote about the green-eyed monster in

wrote about the green-eyed monster in

wrote about the green-eyed monster in the bards play a fellow he tells us the

the bards play a fellow he tells us the

the bards play a fellow he tells us the story of how the king was tormented by

story of how the king was tormented by

story of how the king was tormented by the belief that his wife was being

the belief that his wife was being

the belief that his wife was being unfaithful the king was driven mad by

unfaithful the king was driven mad by

unfaithful the king was driven mad by yah gos lies and mushy Nations consider

yah gos lies and mushy Nations consider

yah gos lies and mushy Nations consider how we all interested in whether or not

how we all interested in whether or not

how we all interested in whether or not it’s true consider how we all understand

it’s true consider how we all understand

it’s true consider how we all understand how tormented the king is jenga’s Khan

how tormented the king is jenga’s Khan

how tormented the king is jenga’s Khan and his male line family members have 16

and his male line family members have 16

and his male line family members have 16 million male-line descendants along the

million male-line descendants along the

million male-line descendants along the Silk Road my explanation is this is due

Silk Road my explanation is this is due

Silk Road my explanation is this is due to male sexual jealousy how wealth and

to male sexual jealousy how wealth and

to male sexual jealousy how wealth and power have to follow genes through

power have to follow genes through

power have to follow genes through history for such success the khan’s

history for such success the khan’s

history for such success the khan’s genetic influence today is only possible

genetic influence today is only possible

genetic influence today is only possible due to cultural practices such as

due to cultural practices such as

due to cultural practices such as nepotism so

nepotism so

nepotism so accession of power and transference of

accession of power and transference of

accession of power and transference of wealth but you need to secure genetic

wealth but you need to secure genetic

wealth but you need to secure genetic bloodlines too so what does this have to

bloodlines too so what does this have to

bloodlines too so what does this have to do with jealousy isn’t it obvious what

do with jealousy isn’t it obvious what

do with jealousy isn’t it obvious what motivates secure genetic bloodlines the

motivates secure genetic bloodlines the

motivates secure genetic bloodlines the important questions are where does the

important questions are where does the

important questions are where does the interest in who’s the father come from

interest in who’s the father come from

interest in who’s the father come from where does the fear of being cuckolded

where does the fear of being cuckolded

where does the fear of being cuckolded that is raising another man’s child why

that is raising another man’s child why

that is raising another man’s child why is that a human Universal remember

is that a human Universal remember

is that a human Universal remember jenga’s and Shakespeare knew nothing of

jenga’s and Shakespeare knew nothing of

jenga’s and Shakespeare knew nothing of evolution or genetics they couldn’t even

evolution or genetics they couldn’t even

evolution or genetics they couldn’t even learn through the lifespan that

learn through the lifespan that

learn through the lifespan that kubinka coulded is a problem because

kubinka coulded is a problem because

kubinka coulded is a problem because it’s only a problem from a selection

it’s only a problem from a selection

it’s only a problem from a selection perspective think of it there is no pain

perspective think of it there is no pain

perspective think of it there is no pain involved in being cuckolded there is no

involved in being cuckolded there is no

involved in being cuckolded there is no way of learning the consequences of not

way of learning the consequences of not

way of learning the consequences of not being the father through the lifespan or

being the father through the lifespan or

being the father through the lifespan or through conditioning the only answer is

through conditioning the only answer is

through conditioning the only answer is selection now let’s be a little

selection now let’s be a little

selection now let’s be a little provocative and get your emotions online

provocative and get your emotions online

provocative and get your emotions online first ladies imagine that your boyfriend

first ladies imagine that your boyfriend

first ladies imagine that your boyfriend bought you jewelry for Christmas and the

bought you jewelry for Christmas and the

bought you jewelry for Christmas and the slightly more expensive piece for his

slightly more expensive piece for his

slightly more expensive piece for his closest collaborator at work she really

closest collaborator at work she really

closest collaborator at work she really deserves it he claims without her close

deserves it he claims without her close

deserves it he claims without her close collaboration friendship and emotional

collaboration friendship and emotional

collaboration friendship and emotional support he would not have survived the

support he would not have survived the

support he would not have survived the autumn they’re not having sex I know

autumn they’re not having sex I know

autumn they’re not having sex I know this us the omniscient narrator of the

this us the omniscient narrator of the

this us the omniscient narrator of the story

story

story is it okay what makes you get may she

is it okay what makes you get may she

is it okay what makes you get may she even get anything next gentleman imagine

even get anything next gentleman imagine

even get anything next gentleman imagine your girlfriend got drunk at a party in

your girlfriend got drunk at a party in

your girlfriend got drunk at a party in the weekend and had sex with a guy there

the weekend and had sex with a guy there

the weekend and had sex with a guy there she’s not in love with them she doesn’t

she’s not in love with them she doesn’t

she’s not in love with them she doesn’t plan to leave you they just had sex is

plan to leave you they just had sex is

plan to leave you they just had sex is it too right usually when I tell this

it too right usually when I tell this

it too right usually when I tell this story to my students I get hissy sounds

story to my students I get hissy sounds

story to my students I get hissy sounds at this point so what is the basic

at this point so what is the basic

at this point so what is the basic science behind these sex differences the

science behind these sex differences the

science behind these sex differences the major biological theory is Traverse

major biological theory is Traverse

major biological theory is Traverse parental investment theory which

parental investment theory which

parental investment theory which explains differences between the genders

explains differences between the genders

explains differences between the genders and behavior based upon minimal

and behavior based upon minimal

and behavior based upon minimal investment in offspring by males and

investment in offspring by males and

investment in offspring by males and females and a specific species David

females and a specific species David

females and a specific species David buss and Dave Schmidt have formulated a

buss and Dave Schmidt have formulated a

buss and Dave Schmidt have formulated a specific application of this theory for

specific application of this theory for

specific application of this theory for humans and in our research it’s the best

humans and in our research it’s the best

humans and in our research it’s the best predictive theory of modern human sexual

predictive theory of modern human sexual

predictive theory of modern human sexual behavior specific features of our

behavior specific features of our

behavior specific features of our reproductive physiology lay the grounds

reproductive physiology lay the grounds

reproductive physiology lay the grounds for our sexual and jealousy psychology

for our sexual and jealousy psychology

for our sexual and jealousy psychology this is summed up in the saying mummys

this is summed up in the saying mummys

this is summed up in the saying mummys baby daddies maybe I’ll repeat it

baby daddies maybe I’ll repeat it

baby daddies maybe I’ll repeat it because it’s important mummys baby

because it’s important mummys baby

because it’s important mummys baby daddies maybe most women know who the

daddies maybe most women know who the

daddies maybe most women know who the mother of the child is it’s hard to give

mother of the child is it’s hard to give

mother of the child is it’s hard to give birth or not know most men just cannot

birth or not know most men just cannot

birth or not know most men just cannot know therefore men seek maximum paternal

know therefore men seek maximum paternal

know therefore men seek maximum paternal certainty if their girlfriend has sex

certainty if their girlfriend has sex

certainty if their girlfriend has sex with other men he might become an

with other men he might become an

with other men he might become an evolutionary dead end women on the other

evolutionary dead end women on the other

evolutionary dead end women on the other hand seek commitment and emotional

hand seek commitment and emotional

hand seek commitment and emotional investment in their children

investment in their children

investment in their children it’s very rare among mammals actually

it’s very rare among mammals actually

it’s very rare among mammals actually only about 5% of them do but men

only about 5% of them do but men

only about 5% of them do but men actually do invest in their presumed

actually do invest in their presumed

actually do invest in their presumed offspring

offspring

offspring therefore seeking commitment in partners

therefore seeking commitment in partners

therefore seeking commitment in partners is important for women these basic

is important for women these basic

is important for women these basic differences according to bus give us two

differences according to bus give us two

differences according to bus give us two different types

different types

different types of jealousy emotional jealousy which is

of jealousy emotional jealousy which is

of jealousy emotional jealousy which is a fear of losing investment and

a fear of losing investment and

a fear of losing investment and commitment and sexual jealousy which is

commitment and sexual jealousy which is

commitment and sexual jealousy which is the fear of one’s partner engaging in

the fear of one’s partner engaging in

the fear of one’s partner engaging in sex with others and these two forms of

sex with others and these two forms of

sex with others and these two forms of jealousy are there for sex

jealousy are there for sex

jealousy are there for sex differentiated and no one actually knew

differentiated and no one actually knew

differentiated and no one actually knew about this before buses original studies

about this before buses original studies

about this before buses original studies now this theory has met with resistance

now this theory has met with resistance

now this theory has met with resistance and criticism but my colleague Mons

and criticism but my colleague Mons

and criticism but my colleague Mons bendixson and I have researched jealousy

bendixson and I have researched jealousy

bendixson and I have researched jealousy considering different samples and

considering different samples and

considering different samples and different facets some of our findings a

different facets some of our findings a

different facets some of our findings a robust founding men report high degree

robust founding men report high degree

robust founding men report high degree of sexual jealousy than women do women

of sexual jealousy than women do women

of sexual jealousy than women do women report high degree of emotional jealousy

report high degree of emotional jealousy

report high degree of emotional jealousy than men D the sex difference is

than men D the sex difference is

than men D the sex difference is primarily found during reproductive

primarily found during reproductive

primarily found during reproductive years and the sex difference is greatest

years and the sex difference is greatest

years and the sex difference is greatest in Scandinavian countries we do not find

in Scandinavian countries we do not find

in Scandinavian countries we do not find an effect of a prior history of being

an effect of a prior history of being

an effect of a prior history of being cheated or being or cheating upon one’s

cheated or being or cheating upon one’s

cheated or being or cheating upon one’s partner we find the same results with

partner we find the same results with

partner we find the same results with continuous and discontinuous measures

continuous and discontinuous measures

continuous and discontinuous measures and in general women report the greatest

and in general women report the greatest

and in general women report the greatest amount of jealousy also we only find the

amount of jealousy also we only find the

amount of jealousy also we only find the sex difference in heterosexual

sex difference in heterosexual

sex difference in heterosexual comparisons

comparisons

comparisons lastly in our recent research on the

lastly in our recent research on the

lastly in our recent research on the forgiveness of infidelity we find that

forgiveness of infidelity we find that

forgiveness of infidelity we find that men have no clue as to how distressed

men have no clue as to how distressed

men have no clue as to how distressed women are by emotional infidelity so

women are by emotional infidelity so

women are by emotional infidelity so most of our findings support the

most of our findings support the

most of our findings support the evolutionary perspective but the three

evolutionary perspective but the three

evolutionary perspective but the three things we have to discuss first why are

things we have to discuss first why are

things we have to discuss first why are the sex differences greatest in

the sex differences greatest in

the sex differences greatest in Scandinavian countries many people

Scandinavian countries many people

Scandinavian countries many people believe there are no fundamental sex

believe there are no fundamental sex

believe there are no fundamental sex differences further there’s an

differences further there’s an

differences further there’s an expectation that sex differences should

expectation that sex differences should

expectation that sex differences should become smaller in more gender galit

become smaller in more gender galit

become smaller in more gender galit Aryan countries but this is not true

Aryan countries but this is not true

Aryan countries but this is not true there are some basic sex differences and

there are some basic sex differences and

there are some basic sex differences and some of these are exaggerated by gender

some of these are exaggerated by gender

some of these are exaggerated by gender egalitarianism and an avian gender

egalitarianism and an avian gender

egalitarianism and an avian gender quality paradox

quality paradox

quality paradox where we find that Norwegian women

where we find that Norwegian women

where we find that Norwegian women choose more traditional professions than

choose more traditional professions than

choose more traditional professions than women in less egalitarian countries in

women in less egalitarian countries in

women in less egalitarian countries in the current research the prediction was

the current research the prediction was

the current research the prediction was that we would find a greater sex

that we would find a greater sex

that we would find a greater sex difference in Norway because of greater

difference in Norway because of greater

difference in Norway because of greater paternal investment in children has

paternal investment in children has

paternal investment in children has jealousy evolved many critics challenged

jealousy evolved many critics challenged

jealousy evolved many critics challenged me to prove that a specific mental

me to prove that a specific mental

me to prove that a specific mental mechanism has evolved for jealousy we

mechanism has evolved for jealousy we

mechanism has evolved for jealousy we can actually turn this around could

can actually turn this around could

can actually turn this around could jealousy not evolve consider our common

jealousy not evolve consider our common

jealousy not evolve consider our common ancestor with modern promiscuous chimps

ancestor with modern promiscuous chimps

ancestor with modern promiscuous chimps without pair bonding without father

without pair bonding without father

without pair bonding without father investment there’s no jealousy but there

investment there’s no jealousy but there

investment there’s no jealousy but there is neither love through our evolutionary

is neither love through our evolutionary

is neither love through our evolutionary history

history

history we changed we started falling in love

we changed we started falling in love

we changed we started falling in love we started bonding and father started

we started bonding and father started

we started bonding and father started investing in children the two important

investing in children the two important

investing in children the two important questions are what would happen to women

questions are what would happen to women

questions are what would happen to women who did not secure investment in their

who did not secure investment in their

who did not secure investment in their children and what would happen to men

children and what would happen to men

children and what would happen to men who weren’t interested in who their

who weren’t interested in who their

who weren’t interested in who their partners were having sex with those

partners were having sex with those

partners were having sex with those naive of this would be out competed by

naive of this would be out competed by

naive of this would be out competed by for jealous finally what must have

for jealous finally what must have

for jealous finally what must have evolved we have evolved to seek to avoid

evolved we have evolved to seek to avoid

evolved we have evolved to seek to avoid losing investment in the long range of

losing investment in the long range of

losing investment in the long range of different relationships the important

different relationships the important

different relationships the important thing is in most of these cases we can

thing is in most of these cases we can

thing is in most of these cases we can learn through the lifespan the negative

learn through the lifespan the negative

learn through the lifespan the negative consequences of losing investment

consequences of losing investment

consequences of losing investment Skinner the founder of radical

Skinner the founder of radical

Skinner the founder of radical behaviorism pointed out that if there is

behaviorism pointed out that if there is

behaviorism pointed out that if there is no feedback mechanism to condition

no feedback mechanism to condition

no feedback mechanism to condition behavior natural selection is the

behavior natural selection is the

behavior natural selection is the explanation of adaptive behavior sexual

explanation of adaptive behavior sexual

explanation of adaptive behavior sexual infidelity doesn’t come with a feedback

infidelity doesn’t come with a feedback

infidelity doesn’t come with a feedback system there is no pain involved in

system there is no pain involved in

system there is no pain involved in being cuckolded

those people who are naively cuckolded

those people who are naively cuckolded through evolutionary history are merely

through evolutionary history are merely

through evolutionary history are merely not our ancestors they merely without

not our ancestors they merely without

not our ancestors they merely without knowing it evolutionary dead ends so

knowing it evolutionary dead ends so

knowing it evolutionary dead ends so where does this interest in whose side

where does this interest in whose side

where does this interest in whose side who come from why do we devise rules

who come from why do we devise rules

who come from why do we devise rules based upon bloodlines why even care

based upon bloodlines why even care

based upon bloodlines why even care the answer is selection those distressed

the answer is selection those distressed

the answer is selection those distressed by their partner cheating on them those

by their partner cheating on them those

by their partner cheating on them those who were motivated to prevent this

who were motivated to prevent this

who were motivated to prevent this simply out competed those who did not

simply out competed those who did not

simply out competed those who did not care

care

care Chelsey’s a normal basic emotion despite

Chelsey’s a normal basic emotion despite

Chelsey’s a normal basic emotion despite being horrible what makes you and your

being horrible what makes you and your

being horrible what makes you and your partner jealous might be very different

partner jealous might be very different

partner jealous might be very different if jealousy is exaggerated you might

if jealousy is exaggerated you might

if jealousy is exaggerated you might want to seek couples therapy however

want to seek couples therapy however

want to seek couples therapy however without without jealousy pair bonding

without without jealousy pair bonding

without without jealousy pair bonding and father investment would not be

and father investment would not be

and father investment would not be evolutionary stable strategies love

evolutionary stable strategies love

evolutionary stable strategies love demands jealousy my claim is that the

demands jealousy my claim is that the

demands jealousy my claim is that the basic adaptation here what has evolved

basic adaptation here what has evolved

basic adaptation here what has evolved is the male sexual jealousy module it

is the male sexual jealousy module it

is the male sexual jealousy module it has to evolve its pound cross culturally

has to evolve its pound cross culturally

has to evolve its pound cross culturally and across time it’s created cultural

and across time it’s created cultural

and across time it’s created cultural practices and it cannot be learnt

practices and it cannot be learnt

practices and it cannot be learnt through the lifespan so how do you get

through the lifespan so how do you get

through the lifespan so how do you get 16 million descendants you need sexual

16 million descendants you need sexual

16 million descendants you need sexual jealousy and father investment and the

jealousy and father investment and the

jealousy and father investment and the one does not come without the other male

one does not come without the other male

one does not come without the other male sexual jealousy is fundamental to

sexual jealousy is fundamental to

sexual jealousy is fundamental to heredity rule and is therefore the

heredity rule and is therefore the

heredity rule and is therefore the foundation of empires thank you

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