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The Bible: A queer positive book | Rev. Dr. Cheri DiNovo | TEDxToronto


well before I begin let me just say that

well before I begin let me just say that if you feel a little uncomfortable

if you feel a little uncomfortable

if you feel a little uncomfortable seeing a woman in this what I call my

seeing a woman in this what I call my

seeing a woman in this what I call my clergy drag or a woman in a collar let

clergy drag or a woman in a collar let

clergy drag or a woman in a collar let me tell you that you are not alone when

me tell you that you are not alone when

me tell you that you are not alone when I was first ordained I walked down a

I was first ordained I walked down a

I was first ordained I walked down a Main Street this lovely little old

Main Street this lovely little old

Main Street this lovely little old gentleman came up to me and said good

gentleman came up to me and said good

gentleman came up to me and said good afternoon father now when I was a little

afternoon father now when I was a little

afternoon father now when I was a little girl one of my earliest memories is

girl one of my earliest memories is

girl one of my earliest memories is being chased home from school by boys

being chased home from school by boys

being chased home from school by boys and being called a dyke and depending on

and being called a dyke and depending on

and being called a dyke and depending on the season that throw snowballs at me or

the season that throw snowballs at me or

the season that throw snowballs at me or they throw rocks at me so I always knew

they throw rocks at me so I always knew

they throw rocks at me so I always knew I was queer I always identified as

I was queer I always identified as

I was queer I always identified as bisexual and for the last few decades

bisexual and for the last few decades

bisexual and for the last few decades I’ve known I’m a Christian but I think

I’ve known I’m a Christian but I think

I’ve known I’m a Christian but I think when that old man said to me father for

when that old man said to me father for

when that old man said to me father for the first time I got I was a queer

the first time I got I was a queer

the first time I got I was a queer Christian and that’s what I want to talk

Christian and that’s what I want to talk

Christian and that’s what I want to talk to you about today in fact I want to

to you about today in fact I want to

to you about today in fact I want to talk to you about the fact that this is

talk to you about the fact that this is

talk to you about the fact that this is a queer read a queer positive read the

a queer read a queer positive read the

a queer read a queer positive read the Holy Bible

Holy Bible

Holy Bible and that we people of faith have been

and that we people of faith have been

and that we people of faith have been some of us queers since the get-go in

some of us queers since the get-go in

some of us queers since the get-go in fact you know it’s always been a part of

fact you know it’s always been a part of

fact you know it’s always been a part of our legacy now why should any of you

our legacy now why should any of you

our legacy now why should any of you care about this if you’re not people of

care about this if you’re not people of

care about this if you’re not people of faith if you don’t believe in God if

faith if you don’t believe in God if

faith if you don’t believe in God if you’re a secular why should you care

you’re a secular why should you care

you’re a secular why should you care well for starters there are 76 countries

well for starters there are 76 countries

well for starters there are 76 countries in the world where being me we’re being

in the world where being me we’re being

in the world where being me we’re being LGBTQ is criminalized we would be

LGBTQ is criminalized we would be

LGBTQ is criminalized we would be considered criminal and ten of those

considered criminal and ten of those

considered criminal and ten of those countries there is the death penalty for

countries there is the death penalty for

countries there is the death penalty for people just like me and the problem is

people just like me and the problem is

people just like me and the problem is that a lot of those laws are based on an

that a lot of those laws are based on an

that a lot of those laws are based on an erroneous

erroneous

erroneous is wrongheaded reading of what’s in this

is wrongheaded reading of what’s in this

is wrongheaded reading of what’s in this book so if you care about human rights

book so if you care about human rights

book so if you care about human rights if you care about civil rights I’m gonna

if you care about civil rights I’m gonna

if you care about civil rights I’m gonna give you the tools to use when you meet

give you the tools to use when you meet

give you the tools to use when you meet one of those five billion out of seven

one of those five billion out of seven

one of those five billion out of seven million people in the world that

million people in the world that

million people in the world that identify as people of the book Christian

identify as people of the book Christian

identify as people of the book Christian Muslim or Jewish now here’s a fast fact

Muslim or Jewish now here’s a fast fact

Muslim or Jewish now here’s a fast fact a biblical fact that you can draw at the

a biblical fact that you can draw at the

a biblical fact that you can draw at the next cocktail party to make yourself

next cocktail party to make yourself

next cocktail party to make yourself sound like a brilliant theologian this

sound like a brilliant theologian this

sound like a brilliant theologian this is a painting done by Rembrandt of the

is a painting done by Rembrandt of the

is a painting done by Rembrandt of the very first Christian convert it’s called

very first Christian convert it’s called

very first Christian convert it’s called the baptism of the Ethiopian eunuch and

the baptism of the Ethiopian eunuch and

the baptism of the Ethiopian eunuch and first of all isn’t it interesting that

first of all isn’t it interesting that

first of all isn’t it interesting that the very first Christian convert was a

the very first Christian convert was a

the very first Christian convert was a person of color but what was a eunuch

person of color but what was a eunuch

person of color but what was a eunuch well some eunuchs were men that were

well some eunuchs were men that were

well some eunuchs were men that were forcibly castrated but the vast majority

forcibly castrated but the vast majority

forcibly castrated but the vast majority of eunuchs were those who either chose

of eunuchs were those who either chose

of eunuchs were those who either chose to be castrated or their bodies were

to be castrated or their bodies were

to be castrated or their bodies were touched at all they just had absolutely

touched at all they just had absolutely

touched at all they just had absolutely no interest in heterosexual sex

no interest in heterosexual sex

no interest in heterosexual sex therefore they were safe around the

therefore they were safe around the

therefore they were safe around the Kings harems so I feel totally safe and

Kings harems so I feel totally safe and

Kings harems so I feel totally safe and saying that the very first Christian

saying that the very first Christian

saying that the very first Christian convert was a queer person of color and

convert was a queer person of color and

convert was a queer person of color and that’s in the Bible and Philip didn’t

that’s in the Bible and Philip didn’t

that’s in the Bible and Philip didn’t want to baptize the eunuch because

want to baptize the eunuch because

want to baptize the eunuch because Philip thought that the eunuch was

Philip thought that the eunuch was

Philip thought that the eunuch was sexually unclean now how did the unit

sexually unclean now how did the unit

sexually unclean now how did the unit convince Philip to baptize them by

convince Philip to baptize them by

convince Philip to baptize them by knowing their Bible and quoting

knowing their Bible and quoting

knowing their Bible and quoting scripture at Philip lesson for all of us

scripture at Philip lesson for all of us

scripture at Philip lesson for all of us here’s another painting and this one I’m

here’s another painting and this one I’m

here’s another painting and this one I’m sure is familiar to all of you this is

sure is familiar to all of you this is

sure is familiar to all of you this is the Last Supper painted by Leonardo da

the Last Supper painted by Leonardo da

the Last Supper painted by Leonardo da Vinci and it’s everywhere and it’s in

Vinci and it’s everywhere and it’s in

Vinci and it’s everywhere and it’s in every Church just about they’re all men

every Church just about they’re all men

every Church just about they’re all men they’re the twelve disciples sitting

they’re the twelve disciples sitting

they’re the twelve disciples sitting next to Jesus in the middle but look at

next to Jesus in the middle but look at

next to Jesus in the middle but look at the one that’s circled

the one that’s circled

the one that’s circled that’s John the Baptist the disciple it

that’s John the Baptist the disciple it

that’s John the Baptist the disciple it says that Jesus loved and Leonardo was

says that Jesus loved and Leonardo was

says that Jesus loved and Leonardo was part of a huge tradition that always

part of a huge tradition that always

part of a huge tradition that always painted John the Baptist as a feminine

painted John the Baptist as a feminine

painted John the Baptist as a feminine man now we don’t really know why that

man now we don’t really know why that

man now we don’t really know why that tradition started but we do know this

tradition started but we do know this

tradition started but we do know this that there obviously wasn’t anything

that there obviously wasn’t anything

that there obviously wasn’t anything wrong with being a feminized man in

wrong with being a feminized man in

wrong with being a feminized man in Leonardo’s day just like there shouldn’t

Leonardo’s day just like there shouldn’t

Leonardo’s day just like there shouldn’t be anything wrong with it

be anything wrong with it

be anything wrong with it today now god godself in Genesis created

today now god godself in Genesis created

today now god godself in Genesis created male males and females in God’s image

male males and females in God’s image

male males and females in God’s image both men and women in God’s image

both men and women in God’s image

both men and women in God’s image so clearly God is not an old guy with a

so clearly God is not an old guy with a

so clearly God is not an old guy with a white beard God is actually far more

white beard God is actually far more

white beard God is actually far more nuanced than that and first John says it

nuanced than that and first John says it

nuanced than that and first John says it clearly God is love and whoever lives in

clearly God is love and whoever lives in

clearly God is love and whoever lives in love lives in God and God lives in them

love lives in God and God lives in them

love lives in God and God lives in them so God is really more a verb than a noun

so God is really more a verb than a noun

so God is really more a verb than a noun anyway it’s just that our limited

anyway it’s just that our limited

anyway it’s just that our limited imaginations we have to personify the

imaginations we have to personify the

imaginations we have to personify the deity now there are those scripture

deity now there are those scripture

deity now there are those scripture passages that have been used

passages that have been used

passages that have been used they’re called the text of Terror to

they’re called the text of Terror to

they’re called the text of Terror to beat up on people like me and other

beat up on people like me and other

beat up on people like me and other queers and preeminent among them is a

queers and preeminent among them is a

queers and preeminent among them is a story of sodom and gomorrah from which

story of sodom and gomorrah from which

story of sodom and gomorrah from which we get the term sodomy but here’s the

we get the term sodomy but here’s the

we get the term sodomy but here’s the kicker Sodom and Gomorrah is a queer

kicker Sodom and Gomorrah is a queer

kicker Sodom and Gomorrah is a queer positive story here’s how it goes God is

positive story here’s how it goes God is

positive story here’s how it goes God is concerned about the people of Sodom not

concerned about the people of Sodom not

concerned about the people of Sodom not being hospitable not being gracious

being hospitable not being gracious

being hospitable not being gracious enough to strangers so God disguises to

enough to strangers so God disguises to

enough to strangers so God disguises to angels and sends them into the town of

angels and sends them into the town of

angels and sends them into the town of Sodom now we don’t know why those angels

Sodom now we don’t know why those angels

Sodom now we don’t know why those angels seem so strange to the townspeople was

seem so strange to the townspeople was

seem so strange to the townspeople was that their language was that their

that their language was that their

that their language was that their ethnicity was it the religion there is

ethnicity was it the religion there is

ethnicity was it the religion there is something so threatening so

something so threatening so

something so threatening so we’re about them to the townspeople that

we’re about them to the townspeople that

we’re about them to the townspeople that it set them off and they failed a test a

it set them off and they failed a test a

it set them off and they failed a test a group of young men set out to threaten

group of young men set out to threaten

group of young men set out to threaten to gang rape the Angels and this is

to gang rape the Angels and this is

to gang rape the Angels and this is interesting in itself because the threat

interesting in itself because the threat

interesting in itself because the threat of rape was used back then and is still

of rape was used back then and is still

of rape was used back then and is still used today against LGBTQ people still

used today against LGBTQ people still

used today against LGBTQ people still one of the major threats used now their

one of the major threats used now their

one of the major threats used now their so-called somewhat hero lot said no no

so-called somewhat hero lot said no no

so-called somewhat hero lot said no no no leave the strangers alone take my two

no leave the strangers alone take my two

no leave the strangers alone take my two virgin daughters gang-raped them instead

virgin daughters gang-raped them instead

virgin daughters gang-raped them instead now I say to you if this is a story

now I say to you if this is a story

now I say to you if this is a story about sexual morality it is horrendous

about sexual morality it is horrendous

about sexual morality it is horrendous twisted tale this isn’t a story about

twisted tale this isn’t a story about

twisted tale this isn’t a story about sexual morality this is a story about

sexual morality this is a story about

sexual morality this is a story about what we do what we are confronted with

what we do what we are confronted with

what we do what we are confronted with somebody who’s strange or different or

somebody who’s strange or different or

somebody who’s strange or different or challenges our sense of self and the

challenges our sense of self and the

challenges our sense of self and the moral is this that if you meet someone

moral is this that if you meet someone

moral is this that if you meet someone like that you should greet them as if

like that you should greet them as if

like that you should greet them as if they were an angel sent by the divine

they were an angel sent by the divine

they were an angel sent by the divine it’s a queer positive story now the only

it’s a queer positive story now the only

it’s a queer positive story now the only other time sex with men and Matt between

other time sex with men and Matt between

other time sex with men and Matt between man and man is mentioned in Hebrew

man and man is mentioned in Hebrew

man and man is mentioned in Hebrew Scriptures is Leviticus and Leviticus

Scriptures is Leviticus and Leviticus

Scriptures is Leviticus and Leviticus has over 600 do’s and don’ts for example

has over 600 do’s and don’ts for example

has over 600 do’s and don’ts for example Leviticus says don’t wear clothing of

Leviticus says don’t wear clothing of

Leviticus says don’t wear clothing of mix fibres so let me tell you you’re all

mix fibres so let me tell you you’re all

mix fibres so let me tell you you’re all sinners

sinners

sinners it also says don’t get a tattoo I know

it also says don’t get a tattoo I know

it also says don’t get a tattoo I know there are some of you out there it says

there are some of you out there it says

there are some of you out there it says don’t eat shellfish and I don’t see

don’t eat shellfish and I don’t see

don’t eat shellfish and I don’t see people of faith with placards outside of

people of faith with placards outside of

people of faith with placards outside of Red Lobster it says you should kill live

Red Lobster it says you should kill live

Red Lobster it says you should kill live animals on an almost daily basis as an

animals on an almost daily basis as an

animals on an almost daily basis as an appeasement to God it also says you

appeasement to God it also says you

appeasement to God it also says you should stone people who are caught in a

should stone people who are caught in a

should stone people who are caught in a Daltry now there isn’t a fundamentalist

Daltry now there isn’t a fundamentalist

Daltry now there isn’t a fundamentalist literalist in the world in the world who

literalist in the world in the world who

literalist in the world in the world who lives by every do and don’t in leviticus

lives by every do and don’t in leviticus

lives by every do and don’t in leviticus so why would we take out just that

so why would we take out just that

so why would we take out just that passage about men having sex with men

passage about men having sex with men

passage about men having sex with men makes no sense

makes no sense

makes no sense no paul also says some negative things

no paul also says some negative things

no paul also says some negative things about sex between men but paul also said

about sex between men but paul also said

about sex between men but paul also said don’t get married

don’t get married

don’t get married not too many christians or anybody else

not too many christians or anybody else

not too many christians or anybody else upholds that paul also said that if

upholds that paul also said that if

upholds that paul also said that if you’re a slave don’t fight for your

you’re a slave don’t fight for your

you’re a slave don’t fight for your freedom stay a slave a passage that was

freedom stay a slave a passage that was

freedom stay a slave a passage that was used for hundreds of years to justify

used for hundreds of years to justify

used for hundreds of years to justify slavery why did Paul say such strange

slavery why did Paul say such strange

slavery why did Paul say such strange things strange things because in his day

things strange things because in his day

things strange things because in his day they were rounding up Christians they

they were rounding up Christians they

they were rounding up Christians they were killing them they were torturing

were killing them they were torturing

were killing them they were torturing them Paul wrote from prison so he was

them Paul wrote from prison so he was

them Paul wrote from prison so he was saying essentially to Christians you’re

saying essentially to Christians you’re

saying essentially to Christians you’re gonna die soon you’re gonna meet your

gonna die soon you’re gonna meet your

gonna die soon you’re gonna meet your maker so don’t change what you’re doing

maker so don’t change what you’re doing

maker so don’t change what you’re doing at this point keep on doing what you’re

at this point keep on doing what you’re

at this point keep on doing what you’re doing focus on the divine Paul also said

doing focus on the divine Paul also said

doing focus on the divine Paul also said and wrote some of the most beautiful

and wrote some of the most beautiful

and wrote some of the most beautiful binary smashing queer positive words

binary smashing queer positive words

binary smashing queer positive words ever written he said in Christ there is

ever written he said in Christ there is

ever written he said in Christ there is no male nor female slave nor free Jew

no male nor female slave nor free Jew

no male nor female slave nor free Jew nor Greek you are all one in Christ

nor Greek you are all one in Christ

nor Greek you are all one in Christ Jesus it’s not much of a leap to say

Jesus it’s not much of a leap to say

Jesus it’s not much of a leap to say queer nor straight is it I’ve been so

queer nor straight is it I’ve been so

queer nor straight is it I’ve been so privileged and so honored in my life

privileged and so honored in my life

privileged and so honored in my life because I got to perform the very first

because I got to perform the very first

because I got to perform the very first legalized same-sex marriage and here

legalized same-sex marriage and here

legalized same-sex marriage and here they are Paola and Blanca two lovely

they are Paola and Blanca two lovely

they are Paola and Blanca two lovely women of color how did we do it well I

women of color how did we do it well I

women of color how did we do it well I read the band’s an ancient Christian

read the band’s an ancient Christian

read the band’s an ancient Christian tradition in church and the band’s

tradition in church and the band’s

tradition in church and the band’s didn’t say male or female to send bride

didn’t say male or female to send bride

didn’t say male or female to send bride and groom and uh we perform the ceremony

and groom and uh we perform the ceremony

and groom and uh we perform the ceremony was joyous

was joyous

was joyous and then we sent in that form the little

and then we sent in that form the little

and then we sent in that form the little prayer to the clerk’s office and the

prayer to the clerk’s office and the

prayer to the clerk’s office and the clerk vetted it and sent them back a

clerk vetted it and sent them back a

clerk vetted it and sent them back a marriage license why because the clerk

marriage license why because the clerk

marriage license why because the clerk thought that Paola PA ula was a man’s

thought that Paola PA ula was a man’s

thought that Paola PA ula was a man’s name hallelujah now clearly we had a

name hallelujah now clearly we had a

name hallelujah now clearly we had a very queer positive congregation hey I

very queer positive congregation hey I

very queer positive congregation hey I was in the pulpit we also had a trans

was in the pulpit we also had a trans

was in the pulpit we also had a trans music director Toby dancer and Toby was

music director Toby dancer and Toby was

music director Toby dancer and Toby was the inspiration behind Toby’s law that I

the inspiration behind Toby’s law that I

the inspiration behind Toby’s law that I fought for years to get past and Toby’s

fought for years to get past and Toby’s

fought for years to get past and Toby’s law added trans rights to the entire

law added trans rights to the entire

law added trans rights to the entire Human Rights Code the largest and first

Human Rights Code the largest and first

Human Rights Code the largest and first jurisdiction of his kind to do so took

jurisdiction of his kind to do so took

jurisdiction of his kind to do so took me many years

me many years

me many years and sadly Toby did not live to see that

and sadly Toby did not live to see that

and sadly Toby did not live to see that Toby died as many trans folk did by her

Toby died as many trans folk did by her

Toby died as many trans folk did by her own hand she died of an overdose it

own hand she died of an overdose it

own hand she died of an overdose it totally decimated our congregation and

totally decimated our congregation and

totally decimated our congregation and our community when that happened and

our community when that happened and

our community when that happened and some wonderful people in the

some wonderful people in the

some wonderful people in the congregation commissioned the stained

congregation commissioned the stained

congregation commissioned the stained glass window of Toby to be put up in our

glass window of Toby to be put up in our

glass window of Toby to be put up in our sanctuary it’s become a place of

sanctuary it’s become a place of

sanctuary it’s become a place of pilgrimage for trans folk across North

pilgrimage for trans folk across North

pilgrimage for trans folk across North America and when I perform Toby’s

America and when I perform Toby’s

America and when I perform Toby’s funeral I said to those assembled we

funeral I said to those assembled we

funeral I said to those assembled we must be the only Church in Christendom

must be the only Church in Christendom

must be the only Church in Christendom that has a stained-glass window of a

that has a stained-glass window of a

that has a stained-glass window of a trans person in their sanctuary now

trans person in their sanctuary now

trans person in their sanctuary now somebody put their hand up and yelled

somebody put their hand up and yelled

somebody put their hand up and yelled from the back row saying what about Joan

from the back row saying what about Joan

from the back row saying what about Joan of Arc what about Joan of Arc at least a

of Arc what about Joan of Arc at least a

of Arc what about Joan of Arc at least a crossdresser if not a trans person so

crossdresser if not a trans person so

crossdresser if not a trans person so you see my friends queers have been

you see my friends queers have been

you see my friends queers have been there from the get-go and this book this

there from the get-go and this book this

there from the get-go and this book this book that preaches love should never be

book that preaches love should never be

book that preaches love should never be used as a weapon against LGBTQ people

used as a weapon against LGBTQ people

used as a weapon against LGBTQ people neither should our face add to

neither should our face add to

neither should our face add to discrimination and hatred there’s a

discrimination and hatred there’s a

discrimination and hatred there’s a wonderful tradition in our faith group

wonderful tradition in our faith group

wonderful tradition in our faith group so that is instead of saying we agree we

so that is instead of saying we agree we

so that is instead of saying we agree we say Amen so I’m gonna put it out there

say Amen so I’m gonna put it out there

say Amen so I’m gonna put it out there if you do agree that we should stop

if you do agree that we should stop

if you do agree that we should stop using this to kill queers to

using this to kill queers to

using this to kill queers to decriminalize queers to discriminate

decriminalize queers to discriminate

decriminalize queers to discriminate against queers and we should stop using

against queers and we should stop using

against queers and we should stop using our face to do that too

our face to do that too

our face to do that too I’m gonna count to three and I want you

I’m gonna count to three and I want you

I’m gonna count to three and I want you if you agree just say Amen

if you agree just say Amen

if you agree just say Amen are you ready 1 2 3 we can do better

are you ready 1 2 3 we can do better

are you ready 1 2 3 we can do better than that

than that

than that we’re gonna try that again I know we’re

we’re gonna try that again I know we’re

we’re gonna try that again I know we’re getting a little tired okay we’re gonna

getting a little tired okay we’re gonna

getting a little tired okay we’re gonna shake the rafters this time 1 2 3 thank

shake the rafters this time 1 2 3 thank

shake the rafters this time 1 2 3 thank you

you

you [Applause]

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