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The End of British Party Politics? | Roger Scully | TEDxAberystwyth


it was the last election broadcast

it was the last election broadcast before the 2017 general election it’s

before the 2017 general election it’s

before the 2017 general election it’s one of the final chances for the party

one of the final chances for the party

one of the final chances for the party predicts cases for voters unsurprisingly

predicts cases for voters unsurprisingly

predicts cases for voters unsurprisingly the party made prominent use its leader

the party made prominent use its leader

the party made prominent use its leader confounding many expectations he had

confounding many expectations he had

confounding many expectations he had proven an effective campaigner over the

proven an effective campaigner over the

proven an effective campaigner over the past few weeks Paulson showed his

past few weeks Paulson showed his

past few weeks Paulson showed his popularity rising consistently since

popularity rising consistently since

popularity rising consistently since Teresa may have caught the snap election

Teresa may have caught the snap election

Teresa may have caught the snap election the leader had defied his critics he’d

the leader had defied his critics he’d

the leader had defied his critics he’d been front and center of the campaign

been front and center of the campaign

been front and center of the campaign and the rising improving poll ratings

and the rising improving poll ratings

and the rising improving poll ratings his party suggested that his leadership

his party suggested that his leadership

his party suggested that his leadership worked indeed when the final result a

worked indeed when the final result a

worked indeed when the final result a few days later turned out even better

few days later turned out even better

few days later turned out even better for his party than the polls have

for his party than the polls have

for his party than the polls have suggested this was seen as very much a

suggested this was seen as very much a

suggested this was seen as very much a personal victory and he emerged a

personal victory and he emerged a

personal victory and he emerged a greatly strengthened vigor those both

greatly strengthened vigor those both

greatly strengthened vigor those both inside and outside the party who

inside and outside the party who

inside and outside the party who previously criticized his leadership

previously criticized his leadership

previously criticized his leadership either fell silent were publicly voiced

either fell silent were publicly voiced

either fell silent were publicly voiced praise loyalty now I’m talking of course

praise loyalty now I’m talking of course

praise loyalty now I’m talking of course about the leader of the Labor Party

I’m not talking about Remy Corbett I’m

I’m not talking about Remy Corbett I’m actually referring to the somewhat less

actually referring to the somewhat less

actually referring to the somewhat less well-known figure certainly outside

well-known figure certainly outside

well-known figure certainly outside Wales look how Windows First Minister

Wales look how Windows First Minister

Wales look how Windows First Minister and leader of Welsh Labour now there’s

and leader of Welsh Labour now there’s

and leader of Welsh Labour now there’s one small example from the final party

one small example from the final party

one small example from the final party election broadcast by the Labour Party

election broadcast by the Labour Party

election broadcast by the Labour Party in Wales

in Wales

in Wales this here is one illustration of a much

this here is one illustration of a much

this here is one illustration of a much broader point elections are about

broader point elections are about

broader point elections are about choices in representative democracy

choices in representative democracy

choices in representative democracy people get to choose who governs now of

people get to choose who governs now of

people get to choose who governs now of course there’s more to it than that in a

course there’s more to it than that in a

course there’s more to it than that in a represent of democracy elections have to

represent of democracy elections have to

represent of democracy elections have to be free and fair you can argue about

be free and fair you can argue about

be free and fair you can argue about whom the people are actually defined to

whom the people are actually defined to

whom the people are actually defined to be so who gets to vote

be so who gets to vote

be so who gets to vote they’re different political systems so

they’re different political systems so

they’re different political systems so in parliamentary democracies we vote for

in parliamentary democracies we vote for

in parliamentary democracies we vote for members of a legislature which in turn

members of a legislature which in turn

members of a legislature which in turn produces a government in a presidential

produces a government in a presidential

produces a government in a presidential system we vote directly for the head of

system we vote directly for the head of

system we vote directly for the head of government there are different electoral

government there are different electoral

government there are different electoral systems which shape how we vote and how

systems which shape how we vote and how

systems which shape how we vote and how those like to aggregate together into an

those like to aggregate together into an

those like to aggregate together into an election result and of course some very

election result and of course some very

election result and of course some very important and powerful official

important and powerful official

important and powerful official positions like membership of

positions like membership of

positions like membership of constitutional courts or the leadership

constitutional courts or the leadership

constitutional courts or the leadership of central banks are not normally

of central banks are not normally

of central banks are not normally elected but the basic principle remains

elected but the basic principle remains

elected but the basic principle remains in a representative democracy we the

in a representative democracy we the

in a representative democracy we the people choose guns

of course we do not as Karl Marx might

of course we do not as Karl Marx might have put it make our choices just as we

have put it make our choices just as we

have put it make our choices just as we please choose in election for the menu

please choose in election for the menu

please choose in election for the menu and its political parties that provide

and its political parties that provide

and its political parties that provide the options on that menu democracy in

the options on that menu democracy in

the options on that menu democracy in the UK and pretty much everywhere else

the UK and pretty much everywhere else

the UK and pretty much everywhere else remains a party democracy that is

remains a party democracy that is

remains a party democracy that is organized political movements which we

organized political movements which we

organized political movements which we call parties provide the overwhelming

call parties provide the overwhelming

call parties provide the overwhelming majority of candidates in major

majority of candidates in major

majority of candidates in major elections and an even greater share of

elections and an even greater share of

elections and an even greater share of those who actually win election now of

those who actually win election now of

those who actually win election now of course we don’t always get the menu of

course we don’t always get the menu of

course we don’t always get the menu of options that we would like many people

options that we would like many people

options that we would like many people are happy with available choices in many

are happy with available choices in many

are happy with available choices in many elections there’s been a big decline in

elections there’s been a big decline in

elections there’s been a big decline in faith in political parties in over the

faith in political parties in over the

faith in political parties in over the last few decades in the UK and in many

last few decades in the UK and in many

last few decades in the UK and in many other established democracies despite

other established democracies despite

other established democracies despite recent surgeries for the SNP and Labour

recent surgeries for the SNP and Labour

recent surgeries for the SNP and Labour Party membership numbers have generally

Party membership numbers have generally

Party membership numbers have generally been falling of recent times and in the

been falling of recent times and in the

been falling of recent times and in the wider electorate we see a similar

wider electorate we see a similar

wider electorate we see a similar picture there were far fewer people have

picture there were far fewer people have

picture there were far fewer people have a deep and abiding loyalty to any

a deep and abiding loyalty to any

a deep and abiding loyalty to any specific political party than used to be

specific political party than used to be

specific political party than used to be the case then of course unhappiness with

the case then of course unhappiness with

the case then of course unhappiness with available choices is one reason why many

available choices is one reason why many

available choices is one reason why many people simply refuse to vote

people simply refuse to vote

people simply refuse to vote yet even when the available choices are

yet even when the available choices are

yet even when the available choices are unsatisfactory to many of us this menu

unsatisfactory to many of us this menu

unsatisfactory to many of us this menu of electoral options that still matters

but the nature of those electoral menus

but the nature of those electoral menus has changed in a fundamental way the

has changed in a fundamental way the

has changed in a fundamental way the choices before us in the general

choices before us in the general

choices before us in the general election were once largely common across

election were once largely common across

election were once largely common across Britain but voters in the UK’s Four

Britain but voters in the UK’s Four

Britain but voters in the UK’s Four Nations are increasingly being presented

Nations are increasingly being presented

Nations are increasingly being presented with fundamentally different and largely

with fundamentally different and largely

with fundamentally different and largely disconnected sets of political options

disconnected sets of political options

disconnected sets of political options we continue to elect one Parliament one

we continue to elect one Parliament one

we continue to elect one Parliament one half of Commons when we do so from four

half of Commons when we do so from four

half of Commons when we do so from four distinct electoral contests a genuinely

distinct electoral contests a genuinely

distinct electoral contests a genuinely British democratic politics is being

British democratic politics is being

British democratic politics is being hollowed out now why does this matter

we might imagine a common language a

we might imagine a common language a shared religion perhaps a shared sense

shared religion perhaps a shared sense

shared religion perhaps a shared sense of ethnic identity people of Boston also

of ethnic identity people of Boston also

of ethnic identity people of Boston also become more United through facing it

become more United through facing it

become more United through facing it from an enemy but in an important sense

from an enemy but in an important sense

from an enemy but in an important sense in a democracy people can also be united

in a democracy people can also be united

in a democracy people can also be united by their differences

by their differences

by their differences I thought democracy does not seek to

I thought democracy does not seek to

I thought democracy does not seek to abolish differences within a society it

abolish differences within a society it

abolish differences within a society it merely provides for their peaceful

merely provides for their peaceful

merely provides for their peaceful airing and their resolution via

airing and their resolution via

airing and their resolution via elections and representative politics we

elections and representative politics we

elections and representative politics we don’t always get the government or the

don’t always get the government or the

don’t always get the government or the policies that we want but we all get the

policies that we want but we all get the

policies that we want but we all get the chance to take part in the process and

chance to take part in the process and

chance to take part in the process and that at least may help us accept when we

that at least may help us accept when we

that at least may help us accept when we don’t get what we want to work democracy

don’t get what we want to work democracy

don’t get what we want to work democracy ultimately depends on losers

ultimately depends on losers

ultimately depends on losers that is the ability of the defeated to

that is the ability of the defeated to

that is the ability of the defeated to accept both the outcome and the

accept both the outcome and the

accept both the outcome and the legitimacy of the process by which it

legitimacy of the process by which it

legitimacy of the process by which it has been reached but this uniting

has been reached but this uniting

has been reached but this uniting through our differences can only occur

through our differences can only occur

through our differences can only occur if we have some sort of common political

if we have some sort of common political

if we have some sort of common political debate and common set of options now we

debate and common set of options now we

debate and common set of options now we don’t have that election become

don’t have that election become

don’t have that election become essentially a disconnected set of nearly

essentially a disconnected set of nearly

essentially a disconnected set of nearly coinciding events in different parts of

coinciding events in different parts of

coinciding events in different parts of the country in the worst case scenario

the country in the worst case scenario

the country in the worst case scenario political debates may have so little in

political debates may have so little in

political debates may have so little in common that the interest of different

common that the interest of different

common that the interest of different parts of the country can see completely

parts of the country can see completely

parts of the country can see completely unrelated to each other now this doesn’t

unrelated to each other now this doesn’t

unrelated to each other now this doesn’t mean of course that we can have no local

mean of course that we can have no local

mean of course that we can have no local differences rural areas will have

differences rural areas will have

differences rural areas will have different concerns from urban ones rich

different concerns from urban ones rich

different concerns from urban ones rich areas we tend to worry about different

areas we tend to worry about different

areas we tend to worry about different things from poor places but the health

things from poor places but the health

things from poor places but the health of a political system does require some

of a political system does require some

of a political system does require some unity political debate of the options

unity political debate of the options

unity political debate of the options presented to people and the electoral

presented to people and the electoral

presented to people and the electoral choices that they make and in the UK

choices that they make and in the UK

choices that they make and in the UK this is under increasing pressure the UK

this is under increasing pressure the UK

this is under increasing pressure the UK is becoming an electronic dis United

is becoming an electronic dis United

is becoming an electronic dis United Kingdom the literal choices have become

Kingdom the literal choices have become

Kingdom the literal choices have become increasingly different between the

increasingly different between the

increasingly different between the nations of Britain over the last half

nations of Britain over the last half

nations of Britain over the last half century see the long slow decline slot

century see the long slow decline slot

century see the long slow decline slot of conservatism the rise the SNP and to

of conservatism the rise the SNP and to

of conservatism the rise the SNP and to a lesser extent like Hungary this

a lesser extent like Hungary this

a lesser extent like Hungary this electoral disunity was shown vividly in

electoral disunity was shown vividly in

electoral disunity was shown vividly in 2017 for only the second time ever but

2017 for only the second time ever but

2017 for only the second time ever but also the second time in a row the

also the second time in a row the

also the second time in a row the general election saw four different

general election saw four different

general election saw four different parties come first in the UK’s four

parties come first in the UK’s four

parties come first in the UK’s four nations prior to 2015 that have never

nations prior to 2015 that have never

nations prior to 2015 that have never happened

happened

happened thought and less widely noticed this

thought and less widely noticed this

thought and less widely noticed this year

year

year what other developments the pushed party

what other developments the pushed party

what other developments the pushed party politics in the UK further apart

politics in the UK further apart

politics in the UK further apart Northern Ireland of course has long had

Northern Ireland of course has long had

Northern Ireland of course has long had a very different politics from the rest

a very different politics from the rest

a very different politics from the rest of the UK electorally Ulster has always

of the UK electorally Ulster has always

of the UK electorally Ulster has always been a place of heart yeah 2017 saw

been a place of heart yeah 2017 saw

been a place of heart yeah 2017 saw their moderate forces with the closest

their moderate forces with the closest

their moderate forces with the closest links to the main UK party’s lose their

links to the main UK party’s lose their

links to the main UK party’s lose their last remaining members of parliament in

last remaining members of parliament in

last remaining members of parliament in Scotland the SNP again won the election

Scotland the SNP again won the election

Scotland the SNP again won the election although much less decisively than they

although much less decisively than they

although much less decisively than they had two years previously but the

had two years previously but the

had two years previously but the unionist parties achieved their house

unionist parties achieved their house

unionist parties achieved their house will come back by essentially fighting

will come back by essentially fighting

will come back by essentially fighting on the SMPS turf albeit with some

on the SMPS turf albeit with some

on the SMPS turf albeit with some success the defining electoral issue in

success the defining electoral issue in

success the defining electoral issue in Scotland with independence and whether

Scotland with independence and whether

Scotland with independence and whether or not there should be a second

or not there should be a second

or not there should be a second independence referendum even those

independence referendum even those

independence referendum even those parties that strongly believe in the

parties that strongly believe in the

parties that strongly believe in the United Kingdom remaining together

United Kingdom remaining together

United Kingdom remaining together thought election campaign had almost no

thought election campaign had almost no

thought election campaign had almost no connection at all there happening in the

connection at all there happening in the

connection at all there happening in the rest of the UK Wales offers more subtle

rest of the UK Wales offers more subtle

rest of the UK Wales offers more subtle picture than the antha than the other

picture than the antha than the other

picture than the antha than the other non-english nations of the UK Wales has

non-english nations of the UK Wales has

non-english nations of the UK Wales has long been very closely tied to its much

long been very closely tied to its much

long been very closely tied to its much larger neighbor to the east but Labour’s

larger neighbor to the east but Labour’s

larger neighbor to the east but Labour’s ultimately successful 2017 campaign in

ultimately successful 2017 campaign in

ultimately successful 2017 campaign in Wales

Wales

Wales focus almost entirely on the Welsh

focus almost entirely on the Welsh

focus almost entirely on the Welsh Labour Grant Jeremy Corbyn was almost

Labour Grant Jeremy Corbyn was almost

Labour Grant Jeremy Corbyn was almost invisible in the labour campaign in

invisible in the labour campaign in

invisible in the labour campaign in Wales excluded in favour of coward votes

Wales excluded in favour of coward votes

Wales excluded in favour of coward votes and after their disappointing result

and after their disappointing result

and after their disappointing result many prominent Welsh conservatives

many prominent Welsh conservatives

many prominent Welsh conservatives called urgently for greater autonomy for

called urgently for greater autonomy for

called urgently for greater autonomy for their party for an identifiable Welsh

their party for an identifiable Welsh

their party for an identifiable Welsh leader in other words putting their

leader in other words putting their

leader in other words putting their party much on the model of Welsh Labour

party much on the model of Welsh Labour

party much on the model of Welsh Labour or indeed the Scottish Conservatives and

the lower-cost England and Britain are

the lower-cost England and Britain are often conflated by the UK’s majority

often conflated by the UK’s majority

often conflated by the UK’s majority nation

nation

nation both the 2015 and the 2017 elections

both the 2015 and the 2017 elections

both the 2015 and the 2017 elections have reflected the rise in recent years

have reflected the rise in recent years

have reflected the rise in recent years of a more prominent and more politicized

of a more prominent and more politicized

of a more prominent and more politicized English identity after the introduction

English identity after the introduction

English identity after the introduction of English votes for English laws in the

of English votes for English laws in the

of English votes for English laws in the House of Commons in 2015 all parties

House of Commons in 2015 all parties

House of Commons in 2015 all parties this year felt the need to respond to

this year felt the need to respond to

this year felt the need to respond to Englishness as a political phenomenon in

Englishness as a political phenomenon in

Englishness as a political phenomenon in their electoral manifestos the Labour

their electoral manifestos the Labour

their electoral manifestos the Labour Party even proposed the introduction of

Party even proposed the introduction of

Party even proposed the introduction of a minister for England

so 2017 saw politics across the UK’s

so 2017 saw politics across the UK’s four Nations move further apart

four Nations move further apart

four Nations move further apart something was not just a one-off the

something was not just a one-off the

something was not just a one-off the continuation of rather longer-term

continuation of rather longer-term

continuation of rather longer-term trends if you came federal actions

trends if you came federal actions

trends if you came federal actions continue on their Tod path as British

continue on their Tod path as British

continue on their Tod path as British fundamental problems for the long-term

fundamental problems for the long-term

fundamental problems for the long-term unity of the UK clitoral unions are

unity of the UK clitoral unions are

unity of the UK clitoral unions are flat-file things this at least is

flat-file things this at least is

flat-file things this at least is something the citizens of the only

something the citizens of the only

something the citizens of the only member state ever to vote to leave the

member state ever to vote to leave the

member state ever to vote to leave the European Union to be able to grasp the

European Union to be able to grasp the

European Union to be able to grasp the existence of the British state is a

existence of the British state is a

existence of the British state is a contingent fact the British state’s

contingent fact the British state’s

contingent fact the British state’s existence is neither necessary nor

existence is neither necessary nor

existence is neither necessary nor inevitable deed that states history has

inevitable deed that states history has

inevitable deed that states history has been much more turbulent than many

been much more turbulent than many

been much more turbulent than many people realize those who emphasize what

people realize those who emphasize what

people realize those who emphasize what Churchill termed the long continuity of

Churchill termed the long continuity of

Churchill termed the long continuity of our institutions tend to underplay or

our institutions tend to underplay or

our institutions tend to underplay or maybe even be unaware of the major

maybe even be unaware of the major

maybe even be unaware of the major convulsions that have transformed the

convulsions that have transformed the

convulsions that have transformed the fundamental shape of politics in these

fundamental shape of politics in these

fundamental shape of politics in these islands roughly once a century since the

islands roughly once a century since the

islands roughly once a century since the time of Henry in the eighth

time of Henry in the eighth

time of Henry in the eighth so Henry’s formal incorporation of Wales

so Henry’s formal incorporation of Wales

so Henry’s formal incorporation of Wales into the kingdom of England early in the

into the kingdom of England early in the

into the kingdom of England early in the sixteenth century was followed the

sixteenth century was followed the

sixteenth century was followed the beginning of the 17th century by the

beginning of the 17th century by the

beginning of the 17th century by the Union English trans by the formal

Union English trans by the formal

Union English trans by the formal parliamentary union Scotland in England

parliamentary union Scotland in England

parliamentary union Scotland in England in 1707 an assembly union between

in 1707 an assembly union between

in 1707 an assembly union between Ireland and Britain in 1800 then of

Ireland and Britain in 1800 then of

Ireland and Britain in 1800 then of course in 1922

course in 1922

course in 1922 we saw the independence of 26 of

we saw the independence of 26 of

we saw the independence of 26 of Ireland’s 32 counties as the Irish Free

Ireland’s 32 counties as the Irish Free

Ireland’s 32 counties as the Irish Free State it’s often forgotten that only 95

State it’s often forgotten that only 95

State it’s often forgotten that only 95 years ago the UK lost a greater

years ago the UK lost a greater

years ago the UK lost a greater proportion of its core territory

proportion of its core territory

proportion of its core territory throughout independence the Germany had

throughout independence the Germany had

throughout independence the Germany had just a few years previously through the

just a few years previously through the

just a few years previously through the Treaty of Versailles and just three

Treaty of Versailles and just three

Treaty of Versailles and just three years ago UK does what was not so much

years ago UK does what was not so much

years ago UK does what was not so much another bullet as a large piece of

another bullet as a large piece of

another bullet as a large piece of artillery munition when very close to

artillery munition when very close to

artillery munition when very close to half of those voting in Scotland opted

half of those voting in Scotland opted

half of those voting in Scotland opted for independence the petition history of

for independence the petition history of

for independence the petition history of what is now the United Kingdom is not

what is now the United Kingdom is not

what is now the United Kingdom is not remotely the story of stability

remotely the story of stability

remotely the story of stability tranquility that many would like to

tranquility that many would like to

tranquility that many would like to think the UK may continue to stay

think the UK may continue to stay

think the UK may continue to stay together fragmentation is not inevitable

absence genuinely British party politics

absence genuinely British party politics to help tie things together

to help tie things together

to help tie things together certainly pushes things is it direction

certainly pushes things is it direction

certainly pushes things is it direction we could end up not nearly as a

we could end up not nearly as a

we could end up not nearly as a naturally dis United Kingdom the end of

naturally dis United Kingdom the end of

naturally dis United Kingdom the end of British party politics could well mean

British party politics could well mean

British party politics could well mean the end

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