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it’s a warm September evening in 1988

it’s a warm September evening in 1988 I’m surrounded by more people that I’ve

I’m surrounded by more people that I’ve

I’m surrounded by more people that I’ve ever seen I’m five years old but I can

ever seen I’m five years old but I can

ever seen I’m five years old but I can see far sitting on my father’s shoulders

see far sitting on my father’s shoulders

see far sitting on my father’s shoulders wearing Talon the capital of Estonia and

wearing Talon the capital of Estonia and

wearing Talon the capital of Estonia and I’m excited because we drove all the way

I’m excited because we drove all the way

I’m excited because we drove all the way to Tel in from my little hometown on the

to Tel in from my little hometown on the

to Tel in from my little hometown on the other side of the country but there’s

other side of the country but there’s

other side of the country but there’s more my mom and dad are really excited

more my mom and dad are really excited

more my mom and dad are really excited about something people are singing I’m

about something people are singing I’m

about something people are singing I’m singing to my mom he’s holding my little

singing to my mom he’s holding my little

singing to my mom he’s holding my little brother but she’s crying but I don’t

brother but she’s crying but I don’t

brother but she’s crying but I don’t mind because I have a flag that flag has

mind because I have a flag that flag has

mind because I have a flag that flag has been always hidden in the closet like a

been always hidden in the closet like a

been always hidden in the closet like a big secret and cutting me into trouble

big secret and cutting me into trouble

big secret and cutting me into trouble every time I tried to play with it no

every time I tried to play with it no

every time I tried to play with it no trouble today it seems and I can stay up

trouble today it seems and I can stay up

trouble today it seems and I can stay up late best night ever

my father year old self doesn’t know it

my father year old self doesn’t know it but I’m witnessing one of the most

but I’m witnessing one of the most

but I’m witnessing one of the most remarkable events in the history of my

remarkable events in the history of my

remarkable events in the history of my home country the singing revolution more

home country the singing revolution more

home country the singing revolution more than three hundred thousand people have

than three hundred thousand people have

than three hundred thousand people have gathered to tell in on that evening to

gathered to tell in on that evening to

gathered to tell in on that evening to literally sing their way to freedom from

literally sing their way to freedom from

literally sing their way to freedom from the Soviet occupation the singing

the Soviet occupation the singing

the Soviet occupation the singing revolution has been named one of the

revolution has been named one of the

revolution has been named one of the most peaceful revolutions in the human

most peaceful revolutions in the human

most peaceful revolutions in the human history the singing revolution took down

history the singing revolution took down

history the singing revolution took down the Iron Curtain three years after that

the Iron Curtain three years after that

the Iron Curtain three years after that evening 27 years later the same country

evening 27 years later the same country

evening 27 years later the same country is one of the most digitally advanced

is one of the most digitally advanced

is one of the most digitally advanced societies in our world and a pioneer for

societies in our world and a pioneer for

societies in our world and a pioneer for a democracy and governance since my

a democracy and governance since my

a democracy and governance since my childhood I’ve done many things that my

childhood I’ve done many things that my

childhood I’ve done many things that my parents didn’t even dare to dream of

parents didn’t even dare to dream of

parents didn’t even dare to dream of behind the Iron Curtain

behind the Iron Curtain

behind the Iron Curtain I started my first company when I was 16

I started my first company when I was 16

I started my first company when I was 16 and it was my late father

and it was my late father

and it was my late father and who grew up in the Soviet Union who

and who grew up in the Soviet Union who

and who grew up in the Soviet Union who encouraged me that my idea deserves a

encouraged me that my idea deserves a

encouraged me that my idea deserves a journey to the Patent Office his

journey to the Patent Office his

journey to the Patent Office his encouragement helped me to step beyond

encouragement helped me to step beyond

encouragement helped me to step beyond my personal borders you know the feeling

my personal borders you know the feeling

my personal borders you know the feeling like you could do anything well that’s

like you could do anything well that’s

like you could do anything well that’s exactly how my dad made me feel by just

exactly how my dad made me feel by just

exactly how my dad made me feel by just believing in me but of the many things

believing in me but of the many things

believing in me but of the many things that my parents couldn’t do that I have

that my parents couldn’t do that I have

that my parents couldn’t do that I have enjoyed the most has been traveling I

enjoyed the most has been traveling I

enjoyed the most has been traveling I have traveled to more than 40 countries

have traveled to more than 40 countries

have traveled to more than 40 countries and lived shorter or longer stints in

and lived shorter or longer stints in

and lived shorter or longer stints in several of them last year I spent

several of them last year I spent

several of them last year I spent hundred and forty three days abroad and

hundred and forty three days abroad and

hundred and forty three days abroad and my then three-year-old daughter had more

my then three-year-old daughter had more

my then three-year-old daughter had more flights in one month than I had within

flights in one month than I had within

flights in one month than I had within the first 20 years of my life many

the first 20 years of my life many

the first 20 years of my life many things have obviously changed during the

things have obviously changed during the

things have obviously changed during the past two decades for me but not only due

past two decades for me but not only due

past two decades for me but not only due to the circumstance of my location but

to the circumstance of my location but

to the circumstance of my location but because moving around is just so much

because moving around is just so much

because moving around is just so much easier for all of us humans in a way

easier for all of us humans in a way

easier for all of us humans in a way reflecting what Phil Knight said in his

reflecting what Phil Knight said in his

reflecting what Phil Knight said in his memoirs the world was much bigger in

memoirs the world was much bigger in

memoirs the world was much bigger in 1962

1962

1962 yes the world is much smaller now

William swing the director-general of

William swing the director-general of International Organization for Migration

International Organization for Migration

International Organization for Migration says that every seventh person on the

says that every seventh person on the

says that every seventh person on the planet is a migrant today we are living

planet is a migrant today we are living

planet is a migrant today we are living in the era of highest human mobility in

in the era of highest human mobility in

in the era of highest human mobility in the recorded history what is happening

the recorded history what is happening

the recorded history what is happening let’s look at one simple structure in

let’s look at one simple structure in

let’s look at one simple structure in our lives that has changed friendships

our lives that has changed friendships

our lives that has changed friendships once almost exclusively formed around

once almost exclusively formed around

once almost exclusively formed around our neighborhood of school our workplace

our neighborhood of school our workplace

our neighborhood of school our workplace our grocery store have suddenly expanded

our grocery store have suddenly expanded

our grocery store have suddenly expanded thanks to global networks suddenly

thanks to global networks suddenly

thanks to global networks suddenly instead of being connected because of

instead of being connected because of

instead of being connected because of our location we are connected in the

our location we are connected in the

our location we are connected in the verticals of interests my best friend

verticals of interests my best friend

verticals of interests my best friend can be sitting in Japan India or the

can be sitting in Japan India or the

can be sitting in Japan India or the United States and we are connected

United States and we are connected

United States and we are connected through a mutual interest I’ll come

through a mutual interest I’ll come

through a mutual interest I’ll come persons have expanded globally because

persons have expanded globally because

persons have expanded globally because our people are everywhere and we are

our people are everywhere and we are

our people are everywhere and we are more comfortable to be anywhere the

more comfortable to be anywhere the

more comfortable to be anywhere the world has become more fluid economist

world has become more fluid economist

world has become more fluid economist Michael Clements from the center of

Michael Clements from the center of

Michael Clements from the center of global development claims that there’s

global development claims that there’s

global development claims that there’s one simple policy that could make the

one simple policy that could make the

one simple policy that could make the world twice as rich as it is open

world twice as rich as it is open

world twice as rich as it is open borders his colleague has even gone

borders his colleague has even gone

borders his colleague has even gone further economics prying poplin and data

further economics prying poplin and data

further economics prying poplin and data scientists people might claim that the

scientists people might claim that the

scientists people might claim that the world of free movement would be 78

world of free movement would be 78

world of free movement would be 78 trillion-dollar richer it was the idea

trillion-dollar richer it was the idea

trillion-dollar richer it was the idea around the movement of people that

around the movement of people that

around the movement of people that sparked the inspiration for the company

sparked the inspiration for the company

sparked the inspiration for the company that I am building it was in Silicon

that I am building it was in Silicon

that I am building it was in Silicon Valley when I asked myself why is change

Valley when I asked myself why is change

Valley when I asked myself why is change happening here

happening here

happening here why aren’t Google and other gigantic

why aren’t Google and other gigantic

why aren’t Google and other gigantic powerhouses emerging from anywhere else

powerhouses emerging from anywhere else

powerhouses emerging from anywhere else on the planet the answer I realized was

on the planet the answer I realized was

on the planet the answer I realized was knowledgeable people who are drawn to

knowledgeable people who are drawn to

knowledgeable people who are drawn to this location so in this more fluid

this location so in this more fluid

this location so in this more fluid world what if we take a person with

world what if we take a person with

world what if we take a person with knowledge and expertise to place lacking

knowledge and expertise to place lacking

knowledge and expertise to place lacking that knowledge and expertise could that

that knowledge and expertise could that

that knowledge and expertise could that be the start of an actual change even

be the start of an actual change even

be the start of an actual change even Google was built by human beings so

Google was built by human beings so

Google was built by human beings so potentially moving around knowledgeable

potentially moving around knowledgeable

potentially moving around knowledgeable people could help us build Silicon

people could help us build Silicon

people could help us build Silicon Valley’s from anywhere in the world in

Valley’s from anywhere in the world in

Valley’s from anywhere in the world in 2014 I started to work on that idea and

2014 I started to work on that idea and

2014 I started to work on that idea and thus sabbatical with a mission to

thus sabbatical with a mission to

thus sabbatical with a mission to distribute knowledge to the far-flung

distribute knowledge to the far-flung

distribute knowledge to the far-flung cities of the world was born three years

cities of the world was born three years

cities of the world was born three years later we’re connecting talent from all

later we’re connecting talent from all

later we’re connecting talent from all over the world to organizations in 49

over the world to organizations in 49

over the world to organizations in 49 countries but since the beginning of

countries but since the beginning of

countries but since the beginning of Tibet achill one of the most commonly

Tibet achill one of the most commonly

Tibet achill one of the most commonly asked questions I have got this what

asked questions I have got this what

asked questions I have got this what about immigration because yes talent is

about immigration because yes talent is

about immigration because yes talent is more open to move around for a career

more open to move around for a career

more open to move around for a career and yes talent shortage is a problem

and yes talent shortage is a problem

and yes talent shortage is a problem growingly for businesses all over the

growingly for businesses all over the

growingly for businesses all over the world and yes we could potentially solve

world and yes we could potentially solve

world and yes we could potentially solve that problem by just taking people to

that problem by just taking people to

that problem by just taking people to the places where the skills are needed

the places where the skills are needed

the places where the skills are needed but the rules and regulations will not

but the rules and regulations will not

but the rules and regulations will not allow it for a long time I

allow it for a long time I

allow it for a long time I thought that policy is a problem created

thought that policy is a problem created

thought that policy is a problem created by politicians and bureaucrats I thought

by politicians and bureaucrats I thought

by politicians and bureaucrats I thought that when an employer in Estonia wants

that when an employer in Estonia wants

that when an employer in Estonia wants to hire highly skilled specialists and

to hire highly skilled specialists and

to hire highly skilled specialists and can get a work permit within 24 hours

can get a work permit within 24 hours

can get a work permit within 24 hours but a company in Greece has to wait one

but a company in Greece has to wait one

but a company in Greece has to wait one year and even then most probably will

year and even then most probably will

year and even then most probably will not get the permit then it’s because the

not get the permit then it’s because the

not get the permit then it’s because the policy makers and politicians in Estonia

policy makers and politicians in Estonia

policy makers and politicians in Estonia have made better decisions that’s what I

have made better decisions that’s what I

have made better decisions that’s what I thought until one evening in February a

thought until one evening in February a

thought until one evening in February a year ago I’m in warm and humid Kuala

year ago I’m in warm and humid Kuala

year ago I’m in warm and humid Kuala Lumpur my my colleagues and I we are in

Lumpur my my colleagues and I we are in

Lumpur my my colleagues and I we are in our very favorite restaurant in the

our very favorite restaurant in the

our very favorite restaurant in the yellow and a lower area this time my

yellow and a lower area this time my

yellow and a lower area this time my little three-year-old daughter is with

little three-year-old daughter is with

little three-year-old daughter is with us and we love this place because they

us and we love this place because they

us and we love this place because they have probably the best chicken wings on

have probably the best chicken wings on

have probably the best chicken wings on planet Earth those chicken wings alone

planet Earth those chicken wings alone

planet Earth those chicken wings alone are a reason to fly to kuala lumpur

are a reason to fly to kuala lumpur

are a reason to fly to kuala lumpur simply a notice that my colleagues are

simply a notice that my colleagues are

simply a notice that my colleagues are looking at something behind me then i

looking at something behind me then i

looking at something behind me then i realized that everybody else in the

realized that everybody else in the

realized that everybody else in the restaurant is looking in that direction

restaurant is looking in that direction

restaurant is looking in that direction too

too

too i turn around and what I see is my

i turn around and what I see is my

i turn around and what I see is my daughter hugging a little Muslim girl

daughter hugging a little Muslim girl

daughter hugging a little Muslim girl they just stand there what seemed like

they just stand there what seemed like

they just stand there what seemed like forever holding each other no borders no

forever holding each other no borders no

forever holding each other no borders no fear of cultural difference just two

fear of cultural difference just two

fear of cultural difference just two little humans finding joy in each other

little humans finding joy in each other

little humans finding joy in each other Here I am in Malaysia five thousand

Here I am in Malaysia five thousand

Here I am in Malaysia five thousand miles from home and I realized that

miles from home and I realized that

miles from home and I realized that borders and policy are not not about

borders and policy are not not about

borders and policy are not not about politicians they are their reflection of

politicians they are their reflection of

politicians they are their reflection of the borders in our heads those are the

the borders in our heads those are the

the borders in our heads those are the borders that keep us from pursuing our

borders that keep us from pursuing our

borders that keep us from pursuing our dreams because we are afraid we’re not

dreams because we are afraid we’re not

dreams because we are afraid we’re not good enough it is the fear that somebody

good enough it is the fear that somebody

good enough it is the fear that somebody who is good enough it’ll take away

who is good enough it’ll take away

who is good enough it’ll take away what’s ours I realized that policy is

what’s ours I realized that policy is

what’s ours I realized that policy is just a mirror of self doubt of its

just a mirror of self doubt of its

just a mirror of self doubt of its citizens in my childhood hi I have

citizens in my childhood hi I have

citizens in my childhood hi I have witnessed how one peaceful revolution

witnessed how one peaceful revolution

witnessed how one peaceful revolution can change the world and lives of people

can change the world and lives of people

can change the world and lives of people how taking down isolation borders can

how taking down isolation borders can

how taking down isolation borders can bring the society from desperation and

bring the society from desperation and

bring the society from desperation and suffering to innovation and success now

suffering to innovation and success now

suffering to innovation and success now it is time for another peaceful

it is time for another peaceful

it is time for another peaceful revolution and it is the revolution to

revolution and it is the revolution to

revolution and it is the revolution to take down our personal borders those are

take down our personal borders those are

take down our personal borders those are the borders that keep us from pursuing

the borders that keep us from pursuing

the borders that keep us from pursuing our dreams and as a consequence we limit

our dreams and as a consequence we limit

our dreams and as a consequence we limit others to pursue theirs those are the

others to pursue theirs those are the

others to pursue theirs those are the borders that are fueled by our

borders that are fueled by our

borders that are fueled by our self-doubt and fed by hate and Sena

self-doubt and fed by hate and Sena

self-doubt and fed by hate and Sena phobia taking down our personal borders

phobia taking down our personal borders

phobia taking down our personal borders would be the most powerful policy change

would be the most powerful policy change

would be the most powerful policy change towards a collaborative and richer world

just like me as a five year old about to

just like me as a five year old about to witness the change I ask you tonight

witness the change I ask you tonight

witness the change I ask you tonight when you go home and you’re thinking

when you go home and you’re thinking

when you go home and you’re thinking about a day acknowledged that you me us

about a day acknowledged that you me us

about a day acknowledged that you me us we are the border guards of our lives

we are the border guards of our lives

we are the border guards of our lives and we are in control of a peaceful

and we are in control of a peaceful

and we are in control of a peaceful revolution towards a better world and

revolution towards a better world and

revolution towards a better world and you can start that by just sitting down

you can start that by just sitting down

you can start that by just sitting down for a coffee with a person that with

for a coffee with a person that with

for a coffee with a person that with whom you usually disagree or plan a trip

whom you usually disagree or plan a trip

whom you usually disagree or plan a trip to a country that is uncomfortably to

to a country that is uncomfortably to

to a country that is uncomfortably to foreign this could be the start of your

foreign this could be the start of your

foreign this could be the start of your revolution

revolution

revolution [Applause]

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