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Human Mobility: A Uniting Journey of Perspectives | Elizabeth Katherine Gamarra | TEDxSaltLakeCity


dan roshani high Ripa is a freezing

dan roshani high Ripa is a freezing catch for that in English means starting

catch for that in English means starting

catch for that in English means starting in a land far away and not too long ago

in a land far away and not too long ago

in a land far away and not too long ago I learned about a 12 year old boy coming

I learned about a 12 year old boy coming

I learned about a 12 year old boy coming in love with the foreign land

in love with the foreign land

in love with the foreign land he worked shiny shoes and selling

he worked shiny shoes and selling

he worked shiny shoes and selling newspapers in La Plaza de Armas which is

newspapers in La Plaza de Armas which is

newspapers in La Plaza de Armas which is one of the most touristy streets in the

one of the most touristy streets in the

one of the most touristy streets in the city of Cuzco and he walked considerable

city of Cuzco and he walked considerable

city of Cuzco and he walked considerable distances in the course of a day shining

distances in the course of a day shining

distances in the course of a day shining the shoes of many people in the city and

the shoes of many people in the city and

the shoes of many people in the city and from the stories he got to here and

from the stories he got to here and

from the stories he got to here and people who got to meet he was

people who got to meet he was

people who got to meet he was particularly drawn to those coming from

particularly drawn to those coming from

particularly drawn to those coming from the United States years later he just

the United States years later he just

the United States years later he just finished school and time aligned just

finished school and time aligned just

finished school and time aligned just right for a program called the Visa

right for a program called the Visa

right for a program called the Visa Lottery which is a highly sought at u.s.

Lottery which is a highly sought at u.s.

Lottery which is a highly sought at u.s. immigration visa to accept applications

immigration visa to accept applications

immigration visa to accept applications from Peru because Peru was identified

from Peru because Peru was identified

from Peru because Peru was identified among some of the countries with low

among some of the countries with low

among some of the countries with low immigration rates to the United States

immigration rates to the United States

immigration rates to the United States in the early 2000s and it is literally

in the early 2000s and it is literally

in the early 2000s and it is literally by luck of the draw that you get chosen

by luck of the draw that you get chosen

by luck of the draw that you get chosen and he form part of the like you feel

and he form part of the like you feel

and he form part of the like you feel and you could just imagine he was

and you could just imagine he was

and you could just imagine he was extremely excited as if he’d actually

extremely excited as if he’d actually

extremely excited as if he’d actually won the million dollar lottery and this

won the million dollar lottery and this

won the million dollar lottery and this extremely excited young boy it was my

extremely excited young boy it was my

extremely excited young boy it was my dad he embarked on this journey with the

dad he embarked on this journey with the

dad he embarked on this journey with the rest of our family shortly after and

rest of our family shortly after and

rest of our family shortly after and similar to him many people today leave

similar to him many people today leave

similar to him many people today leave their home for a number of different

their home for a number of different

their home for a number of different reasons

reasons

reasons people leave their home as migrants has

people leave their home as migrants has

people leave their home as migrants has internally displaced people who are

internally displaced people who are

internally displaced people who are those fleeing their home within their

those fleeing their home within their

those fleeing their home within their country’s borders there are also people

country’s borders there are also people

country’s borders there are also people who leave their home is asylum seekers

who leave their home is asylum seekers

who leave their home is asylum seekers in his refugees where those forced to

in his refugees where those forced to

in his refugees where those forced to flee due to persecution conflict and

flee due to persecution conflict and

flee due to persecution conflict and natural disaster and I want to school

natural disaster and I want to school

natural disaster and I want to school with many of these kids who loved their

with many of these kids who loved their

with many of these kids who loved their home country along with their family for

home country along with their family for

home country along with their family for a better future

a better future

a better future but you see school was also where I

but you see school was also where I

but you see school was also where I first encountered light-skinned American

first encountered light-skinned American

first encountered light-skinned American kids from predominantly white

kids from predominantly white

kids from predominantly white backgrounds who opened my eyes just a

backgrounds who opened my eyes just a

backgrounds who opened my eyes just a little bit more to how I was perceived

little bit more to how I was perceived

little bit more to how I was perceived in this culture I would often be

in this culture I would often be

in this culture I would often be referenced as brown and I remember as a

referenced as brown and I remember as a

referenced as brown and I remember as a kid learning English taking that quite

kid learning English taking that quite

kid learning English taking that quite literally in fact I remember convincing

literally in fact I remember convincing

literally in fact I remember convincing my mom to buy me a set of Crayola

my mom to buy me a set of Crayola

my mom to buy me a set of Crayola crayons for a school experiment

crayons for a school experiment

crayons for a school experiment and one by one I align my fist through

and one by one I align my fist through

and one by one I align my fist through the brown pieces in the box

the brown pieces in the box

the brown pieces in the box tire sleep and I mean tire sleep trying

tire sleep and I mean tire sleep trying

tire sleep and I mean tire sleep trying to match my skin with the brown crayon

to match my skin with the brown crayon

to match my skin with the brown crayon in hopes of finding relatable and

in hopes of finding relatable and

in hopes of finding relatable and affirming ways to define who I was but

affirming ways to define who I was but

affirming ways to define who I was but you see comments like these became less

you see comments like these became less

you see comments like these became less and less than usual because really we’re

and less than usual because really we’re

and less than usual because really we’re all programmed to notice difference

all programmed to notice difference

all programmed to notice difference I’m not saying be cool about it but we

I’m not saying be cool about it but we

I’m not saying be cool about it but we all notice skin color in fact our brain

all notice skin color in fact our brain

all notice skin color in fact our brain is hardwired with an evolutionary legacy

is hardwired with an evolutionary legacy

is hardwired with an evolutionary legacy to divide the world we live in into two

to divide the world we live in into two

to divide the world we live in into two groups the us under them where we are

groups the us under them where we are

groups the us under them where we are often kind tolerable understanding

often kind tolerable understanding

often kind tolerable understanding empathetic to people we consider an

empathetic to people we consider an

empathetic to people we consider an anger member and we’re completely the

anger member and we’re completely the

anger member and we’re completely the opposite to people we can set an

opposite to people we can set an

opposite to people we can set an accurate remember which is for them or

accurate remember which is for them or

accurate remember which is for them or the other and people coming from migrant

the other and people coming from migrant

the other and people coming from migrant refugee asylum seeking backgrounds often

refugee asylum seeking backgrounds often

refugee asylum seeking backgrounds often fall in one of these two groups

fall in one of these two groups

fall in one of these two groups but you see this type of group

but you see this type of group

but you see this type of group membership often favors in-group members

membership often favors in-group members

membership often favors in-group members at the expense of out group members and

at the expense of out group members and

at the expense of out group members and I thought this whole concept play out a

I thought this whole concept play out a

I thought this whole concept play out a couple weeks ago when I visited a town

couple weeks ago when I visited a town

couple weeks ago when I visited a town in Greece located in Keke’s there was a

in Greece located in Keke’s there was a

in Greece located in Keke’s there was a very apparent division the locals on one

very apparent division the locals on one

very apparent division the locals on one side and a handful of nonprofit

side and a handful of nonprofit

side and a handful of nonprofit organizations on this other side and

organizations on this other side and

organizations on this other side and these were organizations specifically

these were organizations specifically

these were organizations specifically serving refugee families coming in from

serving refugee families coming in from

serving refugee families coming in from Turkey to Greece and there was a very

Turkey to Greece and there was a very

Turkey to Greece and there was a very apparent divide a number of these

apparent divide a number of these

apparent divide a number of these organizations considering Greece’s

organizations considering Greece’s

organizations considering Greece’s current tough economic crises as well as

current tough economic crises as well as

current tough economic crises as well as the established tech community people in

the established tech community people in

the established tech community people in that little town a lot of them but all

that little town a lot of them but all

that little town a lot of them but all the locals perceived the new families

the locals perceived the new families

the locals perceived the new families coming in as Vernis BC that changed when

coming in as Vernis BC that changed when

coming in as Vernis BC that changed when these organizations decided that they

these organizations decided that they

these organizations decided that they would rather invest in the town small

would rather invest in the town small

would rather invest in the town small businesses to buy the furniture supplies

businesses to buy the furniture supplies

businesses to buy the furniture supplies they needed rather than going like eeeh

they needed rather than going like eeeh

they needed rather than going like eeeh and they did this intentionally because

and they did this intentionally because

and they did this intentionally because in this process let they let the locals

in this process let they let the locals

in this process let they let the locals know about who these refugee families

know about who these refugee families

know about who these refugee families were the makeup of these new families a

were the makeup of these new families a

were the makeup of these new families a little by little believe it or not a lot

little by little believe it or not a lot

little by little believe it or not a lot of the locals found they had a lot of

of the locals found they had a lot of

of the locals found they had a lot of things in common

things in common

things in common and vice-versa and they were these new

and vice-versa and they were these new

and vice-versa and they were these new families were soon described as assets

families were soon described as assets

families were soon described as assets to their community rather than burdens

to their community rather than burdens

to their community rather than burdens but more than that were described as

but more than that were described as

but more than that were described as actual human beings and I would often

actual human beings and I would often

actual human beings and I would often wonder what about if it were up to you

wonder what about if it were up to you

wonder what about if it were up to you or me to build her own little town or

or me to build her own little town or

or me to build her own little town or society from scratch where things could

society from scratch where things could

society from scratch where things could be a little more fair and less divided

be a little more fair and less divided

be a little more fair and less divided like in giggy’s and one of my platonic

like in giggy’s and one of my platonic

like in giggy’s and one of my platonic crushes of all times philosopher John

crushes of all times philosopher John

crushes of all times philosopher John Rawls proposes the veil of ignorance as

Rawls proposes the veil of ignorance as

Rawls proposes the veil of ignorance as the way of seeing things in a different

the way of seeing things in a different

the way of seeing things in a different light

light

light he says that behind this imaginary veil

he says that behind this imaginary veil

he says that behind this imaginary veil we don’t know anything about ourselves

we don’t know anything about ourselves

we don’t know anything about ourselves we don’t know we don’t know our age

we don’t know we don’t know our age

we don’t know we don’t know our age nationality gender occupation the power

nationality gender occupation the power

nationality gender occupation the power we hold in that new society behind this

we hold in that new society behind this

we hold in that new society behind this veil he says that then we would strive

veil he says that then we would strive

veil he says that then we would strive for a more fair and just equitable

for a more fair and just equitable

for a more fair and just equitable Society and philosopher bets take this

Society and philosopher bets take this

Society and philosopher bets take this even further and he says behind this

even further and he says behind this

even further and he says behind this veil we are all potentially refugees

veil we are all potentially refugees

veil we are all potentially refugees that refugees are ordinary people in

that refugees are ordinary people in

that refugees are ordinary people in exceptional situations and the same

exceptional situations and the same

exceptional situations and the same stands true for any other group

stands true for any other group

stands true for any other group exemplifying human mobility today but

exemplifying human mobility today but

exemplifying human mobility today but now imagine this that you don’t know if

now imagine this that you don’t know if

now imagine this that you don’t know if you’re brown black or white you don’t

you’re brown black or white you don’t

you’re brown black or white you don’t know if you’re rich or poor you don’t

know if you’re rich or poor you don’t

know if you’re rich or poor you don’t know if you’re healthy or sick you don’t

know if you’re healthy or sick you don’t

know if you’re healthy or sick you don’t know if you’re female male or identified

know if you’re female male or identified

know if you’re female male or identified within the LGBTQ community you don’t

within the LGBTQ community you don’t

within the LGBTQ community you don’t even know if you’re Muslim Catholic or

even know if you’re Muslim Catholic or

even know if you’re Muslim Catholic or an atheist just to name a few of course

an atheist just to name a few of course

an atheist just to name a few of course behind this veil in this new society how

behind this veil in this new society how

behind this veil in this new society how what do you think of immigration policy

what do you think of immigration policy

what do you think of immigration policy how would you feel about immigration

how would you feel about immigration

how would you feel about immigration policy and this is where it gets a whole

policy and this is where it gets a whole

policy and this is where it gets a whole lot more interesting for me because I

lot more interesting for me because I

lot more interesting for me because I arbitrarily asked a hundred people what

arbitrarily asked a hundred people what

arbitrarily asked a hundred people what they would do to be more kind to

they would do to be more kind to

they would do to be more kind to tolerable and understanding to people

tolerable and understanding to people

tolerable and understanding to people from refugee asylum seeking and refugee

from refugee asylum seeking and refugee

from refugee asylum seeking and refugee backgrounds including migrants and 95%

backgrounds including migrants and 95%

backgrounds including migrants and 95% of the immediate response I would get

of the immediate response I would get

of the immediate response I would get consisted of a four letter word and it

consisted of a four letter word and it

consisted of a four letter word and it was help not the type of help that you

was help not the type of help that you

was help not the type of help that you would scream if your house is on fire or

would scream if your house is on fire or

would scream if your house is on fire or if you got in a pool not at all the type

if you got in a pool not at all the type

if you got in a pool not at all the type of help that would go along the lines of

of help that would go along the lines of

of help that would go along the lines of responses like this well I would

responses like this well I would

responses like this well I would volunteer I would be more generous with

volunteer I would be more generous with

volunteer I would be more generous with my

my

my I’m I would be kinder to people and do a

I’m I would be kinder to people and do a

I’m I would be kinder to people and do a community service project and you see

community service project and you see

community service project and you see that’s a great start but it’s also

that’s a great start but it’s also

that’s a great start but it’s also problematic one and here’s why because

problematic one and here’s why because

problematic one and here’s why because how P needs different things for many

how P needs different things for many

how P needs different things for many different people and for some it’s a

different people and for some it’s a

different people and for some it’s a checkbox on a to do list

checkbox on a to do list

checkbox on a to do list often driven by self-interest as he I’m

often driven by self-interest as he I’m

often driven by self-interest as he I’m guilty of this I formed part of that 95%

guilty of this I formed part of that 95%

guilty of this I formed part of that 95% well and I also decided to go and help

well and I also decided to go and help

well and I also decided to go and help specifically help rebuilt the community

specifically help rebuilt the community

specifically help rebuilt the community center right in the plaza of the town

center right in the plaza of the town

center right in the plaza of the town and kikis with a group of students we

and kikis with a group of students we

and kikis with a group of students we rolled up our sleeves and began painting

rolled up our sleeves and began painting

rolled up our sleeves and began painting the wall arranging the furniture and

the wall arranging the furniture and

the wall arranging the furniture and decorating the room until one man from

decorating the room until one man from

decorating the room until one man from Syria in the room came in and he said

Syria in the room came in and he said

Syria in the room came in and he said stop he said I don’t need you to paint

stop he said I don’t need you to paint

stop he said I don’t need you to paint the wall arrange the furniture decorate

the wall arrange the furniture decorate

the wall arrange the furniture decorate this room I can easily do that myself I

this room I can easily do that myself I

this room I can easily do that myself I would love someone that I could have a

would love someone that I could have a

would love someone that I could have a conversation with or join me for a

conversation with or join me for a

conversation with or join me for a family lunch there was complete silence

family lunch there was complete silence

family lunch there was complete silence in the room and to be completely honest

in the room and to be completely honest

in the room and to be completely honest with you I was actually expecting a

with you I was actually expecting a

with you I was actually expecting a thank you because of all the hard work

thank you because of all the hard work

thank you because of all the hard work dedication time it’s what I’d put into

dedication time it’s what I’d put into

dedication time it’s what I’d put into that project the Fitz man was right I

that project the Fitz man was right I

that project the Fitz man was right I had lost complete focus on the point of

had lost complete focus on the point of

had lost complete focus on the point of the project but more than that this man

the project but more than that this man

the project but more than that this man in front of me also has dreams

in front of me also has dreams

in front of me also has dreams aspirations desires and a family could

aspirations desires and a family could

aspirations desires and a family could be me could be you could be my parents

be me could be you could be my parents

be me could be you could be my parents could be a brother an uncle

could be a brother an uncle

could be a brother an uncle and what about of their work you know if

and what about of their work you know if

and what about of their work you know if it were you how would you feel about a

it were you how would you feel about a

it were you how would you feel about a group of people coming in to help you

group of people coming in to help you

group of people coming in to help you without being a hundred percent crystal

without being a hundred percent crystal

without being a hundred percent crystal clear on what you need help with or if

clear on what you need help with or if

clear on what you need help with or if you need help with at all and everything

you need help with at all and everything

you need help with at all and everything I was taught in Western culture

I was taught in Western culture

I was taught in Western culture backfired and I asked myself so is

backfired and I asked myself so is

backfired and I asked myself so is helping alone is not the answer

helping alone is not the answer

helping alone is not the answer to moving past this us and then

to moving past this us and then

to moving past this us and then mentality then what is and I’m trying to

mentality then what is and I’m trying to

mentality then what is and I’m trying to wrap my head around this I’d often

wrap my head around this I’d often

wrap my head around this I’d often wonder well how did people in the past

wonder well how did people in the past

wonder well how did people in the past managed to solve issues or division is

managed to solve issues or division is

managed to solve issues or division is so prevalent like it is now and I think

so prevalent like it is now and I think

so prevalent like it is now and I think we’ve actually had the answer for a

we’ve actually had the answer for a

we’ve actually had the answer for a pretty long time and it’s really a

pretty long time and it’s really a

pretty long time and it’s really a simple one but first I know I had to do

simple one but first I know I had to do

simple one but first I know I had to do some soul-searching and that part of my

some soul-searching and that part of my

some soul-searching and that part of my identity are my cultural roots and go to

identity are my cultural roots and go to

identity are my cultural roots and go to my ancestors identity are three

my ancestors identity are three

my ancestors identity are three cornerstones which they called the three

cornerstones which they called the three

cornerstones which they called the three cornerstones of the Inca law and in

cornerstones of the Inca law and in

cornerstones of the Inca law and in Quechua that goes like this

Quechua that goes like this

Quechua that goes like this I’m a sua I’m a que ya am i you yeah

I’m a sua I’m a que ya am i you yeah

I’m a sua I’m a que ya am i you yeah which translated to English means do not

which translated to English means do not

which translated to English means do not steal do not lie and do not be lazy and

steal do not lie and do not be lazy and

steal do not lie and do not be lazy and I’m here to propose these three things

I’m here to propose these three things

I’m here to propose these three things but with the twist number one do not

but with the twist number one do not

but with the twist number one do not steal don’t steal from others the

steal don’t steal from others the

steal don’t steal from others the opportunity of getting to know you like

opportunity of getting to know you like

opportunity of getting to know you like the 12 year old boy from Cusco talked to

the 12 year old boy from Cusco talked to

the 12 year old boy from Cusco talked to others interact respect and socialise in

others interact respect and socialise in

others interact respect and socialise in communities that are different than

communities that are different than

communities that are different than yours where you can engage in reciprocal

yours where you can engage in reciprocal

yours where you can engage in reciprocal learning because that is key and perhaps

learning because that is key and perhaps

learning because that is key and perhaps one of the things you learn and this

one of the things you learn and this

one of the things you learn and this might sound totally crazy is that a

might sound totally crazy is that a

might sound totally crazy is that a refugee camp is not a zoo and that a

refugee camp is not a zoo and that a

refugee camp is not a zoo and that a migrants experience goes beyond then

migrants experience goes beyond then

migrants experience goes beyond then that documentary you watched on Netflix

that documentary you watched on Netflix

that documentary you watched on Netflix the other day number two it’s not lie

the other day number two it’s not lie

the other day number two it’s not lie don’t lie about what you don’t know

don’t lie about what you don’t know

don’t lie about what you don’t know anybody you’ll ever meet like this man

anybody you’ll ever meet like this man

anybody you’ll ever meet like this man from Syria knows something that you

from Syria knows something that you

from Syria knows something that you don’t and taking that from a humbling

don’t and taking that from a humbling

don’t and taking that from a humbling starting point but rather than saying oh

starting point but rather than saying oh

starting point but rather than saying oh I I know a whole lot because I’ve taken

I I know a whole lot because I’ve taken

I I know a whole lot because I’ve taken this very intensive class or I’ve read

this very intensive class or I’ve read

this very intensive class or I’ve read this really good book or even I’m super

this really good book or even I’m super

this really good book or even I’m super active on this particular issue on

active on this particular issue on

active on this particular issue on Facebook this was a shocker oh I want a

Facebook this was a shocker oh I want a

Facebook this was a shocker oh I want a broad no you come from a place of

broad no you come from a place of

broad no you come from a place of learning where you are at the edge of

learning where you are at the edge of

learning where you are at the edge of your seat not because you’re winning an

your seat not because you’re winning an

your seat not because you’re winning an argument but because your mind has

argument but because your mind has

argument but because your mind has opened up to so much more and number

opened up to so much more and number

opened up to so much more and number three don’t be lazy don’t be lazy with

three don’t be lazy don’t be lazy with

three don’t be lazy don’t be lazy with your everyday language just being a

your everyday language just being a

your everyday language just being a little more intentional about how you

little more intentional about how you

little more intentional about how you first introduce someone with their full

first introduce someone with their full

first introduce someone with their full name prefer gender pronoun story or

name prefer gender pronoun story or

name prefer gender pronoun story or strength that you admire from that

strength that you admire from that

strength that you admire from that person makes a huge difference

person makes a huge difference

person makes a huge difference like the organizations in khakis dead

like the organizations in khakis dead

like the organizations in khakis dead have you ever wondered why you often

have you ever wondered why you often

have you ever wondered why you often hear refugee child refugee parent maybe

hear refugee child refugee parent maybe

hear refugee child refugee parent maybe on the media from another person rather

on the media from another person rather

on the media from another person rather than hearing child’s with refugee status

than hearing child’s with refugee status

than hearing child’s with refugee status or parent with refugee background

or parent with refugee background

or parent with refugee background there’s a big difference between the two

there’s a big difference between the two

there’s a big difference between the two because the term refugee itself is not

because the term refugee itself is not

because the term refugee itself is not someone’s full identity it’s an

someone’s full identity it’s an

someone’s full identity it’s an experience in circumstance in the moment

experience in circumstance in the moment

experience in circumstance in the moment like it is for many other identities and

like it is for many other identities and

like it is for many other identities and I’m a sua I’m a gay yeah I’m a you yeah

I’m a sua I’m a gay yeah I’m a you yeah

I’m a sua I’m a gay yeah I’m a you yeah or three things you can easily easily

or three things you can easily easily

or three things you can easily easily put into practice today and can go a

put into practice today and can go a

put into practice today and can go a long way and they were three principles

long way and they were three principles

long way and they were three principles that my dad as a boy called true – and

that my dad as a boy called true – and

that my dad as a boy called true – and even though coming to the United States

even though coming to the United States

even though coming to the United States was not all unicorns and rainbows I know

was not all unicorns and rainbows I know

was not all unicorns and rainbows I know that some of his and my whole family’s

that some of his and my whole family’s

that some of his and my whole family’s most cherished memories in this country

most cherished memories in this country

most cherished memories in this country has been when we felt included and part

has been when we felt included and part

has been when we felt included and part of something bigger and even though this

of something bigger and even though this

of something bigger and even though this will us-and-them

will us-and-them

will us-and-them rhetoric and mentality might feel like

rhetoric and mentality might feel like

rhetoric and mentality might feel like ripping off a band-aid because it is

ripping off a band-aid because it is

ripping off a band-aid because it is painful it is complicated

painful it is complicated

painful it is complicated we shouldn’t get rid of it because it

we shouldn’t get rid of it because it

we shouldn’t get rid of it because it would be nearly impossible to do no we

would be nearly impossible to do no we

would be nearly impossible to do no we should move past it and cherish it

should move past it and cherish it

should move past it and cherish it because there is no other we are all the

because there is no other we are all the

because there is no other we are all the other I promise you unexpected

other I promise you unexpected

other I promise you unexpected opportunities will present themselves in

opportunities will present themselves in

opportunities will present themselves in your lives where you will be able to

your lives where you will be able to

your lives where you will be able to steer away from stealing lying and

steer away from stealing lying and

steer away from stealing lying and laziness in that process let those know

laziness in that process let those know

laziness in that process let those know in your circles that we are in it

in your circles that we are in it

in your circles that we are in it together that we are on the same side

together that we are on the same side

together that we are on the same side the side of solidarity equity and

the side of solidarity equity and

the side of solidarity equity and compassion for others a close mentor of

compassion for others a close mentor of

compassion for others a close mentor of mine once said but the migrant crisis is

mine once said but the migrant crisis is

mine once said but the migrant crisis is our generations civil rights movement

our generations civil rights movement

our generations civil rights movement and so I say let’s start focusing on

and so I say let’s start focusing on

and so I say let’s start focusing on what unites us rather than on what is

what unites us rather than on what is

what unites us rather than on what is dividing us thank you

dividing us thank you

dividing us thank you [Applause]

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