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one of my earliest childhood memories is

one of my earliest childhood memories is my parents grandpa’s relative sitting

my parents grandpa’s relative sitting

my parents grandpa’s relative sitting around the kitchen table and telling

around the kitchen table and telling

around the kitchen table and telling jokes I didn’t understand at all and the

jokes I didn’t understand at all and the

jokes I didn’t understand at all and the reason is that they grew up in communism

reason is that they grew up in communism

reason is that they grew up in communism and I would tell these old political

and I would tell these old political

and I would tell these old political jokes which had references to obese

jokes which had references to obese

jokes which had references to obese people that I didn’t know and they also

people that I didn’t know and they also

people that I didn’t know and they also had the sense of you know bitter

had the sense of you know bitter

had the sense of you know bitter political irony and a sense of

political irony and a sense of

political irony and a sense of powerlessness that I in my life couldn’t

powerlessness that I in my life couldn’t

powerlessness that I in my life couldn’t quite relate to but I have to say over

quite relate to but I have to say over

quite relate to but I have to say over the last couple of years as we’ve seen

the last couple of years as we’ve seen

the last couple of years as we’ve seen the rise of populism all around the

the rise of populism all around the

the rise of populism all around the world as we’ve seen Britain go to

world as we’ve seen Britain go to

world as we’ve seen Britain go to Black’s it as we’ve seen the election of

Black’s it as we’ve seen the election of

Black’s it as we’ve seen the election of Donald Trump I started to remember some

Donald Trump I started to remember some

Donald Trump I started to remember some of those old jerks so I’ll tell you one

of those old jerks so I’ll tell you one

of those old jerks so I’ll tell you one of them today

of them today

of them today it’s from the Soviet Union but it’s easy

it’s from the Soviet Union but it’s easy

it’s from the Soviet Union but it’s easy to understand a man is worker walking

to understand a man is worker walking

to understand a man is worker walking home after work late at night and he

home after work late at night and he

home after work late at night and he sees another guy who’s completely drunk

sees another guy who’s completely drunk

sees another guy who’s completely drunk standing by the side of the road farang

standing by the side of the road farang

standing by the side of the road farang out his guts into regatta and as soon as

out his guts into regatta and as soon as

out his guts into regatta and as soon as he sees this guy his face brightens up

he sees this guy his face brightens up

he sees this guy his face brightens up he walks over he puts a hand on his

he walks over he puts a hand on his

he walks over he puts a hand on his shoulder and he says my dear comrade

shoulder and he says my dear comrade

shoulder and he says my dear comrade I completely grieve your political

I completely grieve your political

I completely grieve your political analysis you see I most of you in this

analysis you see I most of you in this

analysis you see I most of you in this room most of the people watching this

room most of the people watching this

room most of the people watching this online we’ve spent most of our lives in

online we’ve spent most of our lives in

online we’ve spent most of our lives in ordinary times in ordinary times the

ordinary times in ordinary times the

ordinary times in ordinary times the stakes of politics are high they always

stakes of politics are high they always

stakes of politics are high they always are but we have an understanding that we

are but we have an understanding that we

are but we have an understanding that we can figure out our disagreements through

can figure out our disagreements through

can figure out our disagreements through peaceful democratic means that if we

peaceful democratic means that if we

peaceful democratic means that if we fight for a just cause and we’re

fight for a just cause and we’re

fight for a just cause and we’re defeated then justice isn’t declined

defeated then justice isn’t declined

defeated then justice isn’t declined forever it might be deferred until

forever it might be deferred until

forever it might be deferred until tomorrow but if we lose this battle

tomorrow but if we lose this battle

tomorrow but if we lose this battle there’s always another way to win the

there’s always another way to win the

there’s always another way to win the fight and my fear is that we’re now

fight and my fear is that we’re now

fight and my fear is that we’re now entering an era of it’s quite different

entering an era of it’s quite different

entering an era of it’s quite different we’ve seen the election in countries

we’ve seen the election in countries

we’ve seen the election in countries which had gained the freedom when the

which had gained the freedom when the

which had gained the freedom when the Berlin Wall fell a few hundred years

Berlin Wall fell a few hundred years

Berlin Wall fell a few hundred years from now they build this vibrant

from now they build this vibrant

from now they build this vibrant imperfect but free liberal democracies

imperfect but free liberal democracies

imperfect but free liberal democracies but now in Poland and Hungary we’ve seen

but now in Poland and Hungary we’ve seen

but now in Poland and Hungary we’ve seen the election of people

the election of people

the election of people already abolished the independence of

already abolished the independence of

already abolished the independence of most of a country’s courts who’ve

most of a country’s courts who’ve

most of a country’s courts who’ve undermined the freedom of the media

undermined the freedom of the media

undermined the freedom of the media who’ve brought it to a point where the

who’ve brought it to a point where the

who’ve brought it to a point where the opposition no longer knows whether they

opposition no longer knows whether they

opposition no longer knows whether they have a fair chance of unseating the

have a fair chance of unseating the

have a fair chance of unseating the government in the next election in

government in the next election in

government in the next election in Western Europe we see here in Germany

Western Europe we see here in Germany

Western Europe we see here in Germany the rise of a far-right party that’s

the rise of a far-right party that’s

the rise of a far-right party that’s likely to be in the Bundestag my

likely to be in the Bundestag my

likely to be in the Bundestag my national parliament for the first time

national parliament for the first time

national parliament for the first time since world war ii in france marine

since world war ii in france marine

since world war ii in france marine lepen didn’t win but 2017 presidential

lepen didn’t win but 2017 presidential

lepen didn’t win but 2017 presidential elections but she got 33% of the vote

elections but she got 33% of the vote

elections but she got 33% of the vote twice as much as her father did 15 years

twice as much as her father did 15 years

twice as much as her father did 15 years ago and in the United States we now have

ago and in the United States we now have

ago and in the United States we now have a man in the White House who has deep

a man in the White House who has deep

a man in the White House who has deep and evident disregard for most basic

and evident disregard for most basic

and evident disregard for most basic norms and rules of liberal democracy now

norms and rules of liberal democracy now

norms and rules of liberal democracy now all of this didn’t come as a complete

all of this didn’t come as a complete

all of this didn’t come as a complete surprise to me because over the last few

surprise to me because over the last few

surprise to me because over the last few years as a political scientist I’ve been

years as a political scientist I’ve been

years as a political scientist I’ve been working on people’s attitudes towards

working on people’s attitudes towards

working on people’s attitudes towards democracy on the deep disenchantment

democracy on the deep disenchantment

democracy on the deep disenchantment they have not just with particular

they have not just with particular

they have not just with particular governments but with a political system

governments but with a political system

governments but with a political system itself and some of the things that I

itself and some of the things that I

itself and some of the things that I found were quite shocking in the United

found were quite shocking in the United

found were quite shocking in the United States for example when you ask older

States for example when you ask older

States for example when you ask older people born in the 1930s and 1940s how

people born in the 1930s and 1940s how

people born in the 1930s and 1940s how important it is to them to live in a

important it is to them to live in a

important it is to them to live in a democracy over two-thirds say really

democracy over two-thirds say really

democracy over two-thirds say really important essential when you ask

important essential when you ask

important essential when you ask Millennials born since 1980

Millennials born since 1980

Millennials born since 1980 less than one-third say that it’s

less than one-third say that it’s

less than one-third say that it’s crucial to them to live in a democracy

crucial to them to live in a democracy

crucial to them to live in a democracy even when you ask about pretty radical

even when you ask about pretty radical

even when you ask about pretty radical alternatives to democracy there’s a

alternatives to democracy there’s a

alternatives to democracy there’s a growing number of people who endorse

growing number of people who endorse

growing number of people who endorse those twenty years ago one in 16

those twenty years ago one in 16

those twenty years ago one in 16 Americans said that they liked the idea

Americans said that they liked the idea

Americans said that they liked the idea of army rule today it’s one and six and

of army rule today it’s one and six and

of army rule today it’s one and six and it’s not just about the United States in

it’s not just about the United States in

it’s not just about the United States in Europe to support for a strongman leader

Europe to support for a strongman leader

Europe to support for a strongman leader who doesn’t have to bother with

who doesn’t have to bother with

who doesn’t have to bother with parliament and elections as rising in

parliament and elections as rising in

parliament and elections as rising in Germany one in six Germans believed that

Germany one in six Germans believed that

Germany one in six Germans believed that 20 years ago now it’s 1 and 3 in the

20 years ago now it’s 1 and 3 in the

20 years ago now it’s 1 and 3 in the United Kingdom and was 1 in 4 20 years

United Kingdom and was 1 in 4 20 years

United Kingdom and was 1 in 4 20 years ago and now every second Brit says for

ago and now every second Brit says for

ago and now every second Brit says for he likes the idea of a strong man leader

he likes the idea of a strong man leader

he likes the idea of a strong man leader so I think we need to change our

so I think we need to change our

so I think we need to change our understanding of a political situation

understanding of a political situation

understanding of a political situation we have we’re now living in

we have we’re now living in

we have we’re now living in extraordinary times in extraordinary

extraordinary times in extraordinary

extraordinary times in extraordinary times the stakes of politics aren’t just

times the stakes of politics aren’t just

times the stakes of politics aren’t just high

high

high they’re existential if justice is

they’re existential if justice is

they’re existential if justice is deferred today it may be out of reach

deferred today it may be out of reach

deferred today it may be out of reach indefinitely

indefinitely

indefinitely and if we lose the next few decisive

and if we lose the next few decisive

and if we lose the next few decisive battles but we might lose the whole

battles but we might lose the whole

battles but we might lose the whole fight so one important question is how

fight so one important question is how

fight so one important question is how this came about because to know what we

this came about because to know what we

this came about because to know what we do we have to have an understanding of

do we have to have an understanding of

do we have to have an understanding of the causes of its popular streisand I

the causes of its popular streisand I

the causes of its popular streisand I want to say this a little bit about that

want to say this a little bit about that

want to say this a little bit about that the first is economic stagnation I’m in

the first is economic stagnation I’m in

the first is economic stagnation I’m in stagnation of living standards for

stagnation of living standards for

stagnation of living standards for ordinary people all through the history

ordinary people all through the history

ordinary people all through the history of democratic stability we’ve seen a

of democratic stability we’ve seen a

of democratic stability we’ve seen a rapid increase in living standards for

rapid increase in living standards for

rapid increase in living standards for average people that’s no longer the case

average people that’s no longer the case

average people that’s no longer the case in the United States from 1935 for 1930

in the United States from 1935 for 1930

in the United States from 1935 for 1930 to 1960 the standard of living of the

to 1960 the standard of living of the

to 1960 the standard of living of the average American doubled from 1960 to

average American doubled from 1960 to

average American doubled from 1960 to 1985 it doubled again and since 1985

1985 it doubled again and since 1985

1985 it doubled again and since 1985 it’s essentially been stagnant mat

it’s essentially been stagnant mat

it’s essentially been stagnant mat really changes how people think about

really changes how people think about

really changes how people think about politics I never laughed politicians

politics I never laughed politicians

politics I never laughed politicians been ever completely trusted them but

been ever completely trusted them but

been ever completely trusted them but they used to say you know what I’m doing

they used to say you know what I’m doing

they used to say you know what I’m doing twice as well as my parents where my

twice as well as my parents where my

twice as well as my parents where my kids are going to do twice as well as me

kids are going to do twice as well as me

kids are going to do twice as well as me let’s give him the benefit of a doubt

let’s give him the benefit of a doubt

let’s give him the benefit of a doubt and now they’re saying you know what

and now they’re saying you know what

and now they’re saying you know what I’ve worked really hard all of my life

I’ve worked really hard all of my life

I’ve worked really hard all of my life and I don’t have much to show for it and

and I don’t have much to show for it and

and I don’t have much to show for it and my kids are probably going to do worse

my kids are probably going to do worse

my kids are probably going to do worse than me so let’s throw some against

than me so let’s throw some against

than me so let’s throw some against the wall and see what sticks the second

the wall and see what sticks the second

the wall and see what sticks the second thing is about identity I think we

thing is about identity I think we

thing is about identity I think we underestimate the degree to its most

underestimate the degree to its most

underestimate the degree to its most democracies were founded on a

democracies were founded on a

democracies were founded on a mono-ethnic basis in Germany in Poland

mono-ethnic basis in Germany in Poland

mono-ethnic basis in Germany in Poland and Hungary in France in Italy all of

and Hungary in France in Italy all of

and Hungary in France in Italy all of those countries claimed that they

those countries claimed that they

those countries claimed that they descended from a common ethnic stock

descended from a common ethnic stock

descended from a common ethnic stock when they were founded and over the last

when they were founded and over the last

when they were founded and over the last decades we’ve had lots of immigration we

decades we’ve had lots of immigration we

decades we’ve had lots of immigration we suicides have become a lot more

suicides have become a lot more

suicides have become a lot more pluralist and immigrants my descendants

pluralist and immigrants my descendants

pluralist and immigrants my descendants are now demanding equality and full

are now demanding equality and full

are now demanding equality and full inclusion and when

inclusion and when

inclusion and when and some people are very happy about

and some people are very happy about

and some people are very happy about that and they welcome that but some

that and they welcome that but some

that and they welcome that but some people are resentful against ed in their

people are resentful against ed in their

people are resentful against ed in their push against it and that’s one of the

push against it and that’s one of the

push against it and that’s one of the drivers of this populist anger the

drivers of this populist anger the

drivers of this populist anger the United States has always been

United States has always been

United States has always been multi-ethnic they’ve never been

multi-ethnic they’ve never been

multi-ethnic they’ve never been mono-ethnic and the way that European

mono-ethnic and the way that European

mono-ethnic and the way that European nations have claimed to be but they are

nations have claimed to be but they are

nations have claimed to be but they are – there used to be a strict racial

– there used to be a strict racial

– there used to be a strict racial hierarchy and that is also slowly being

hierarchy and that is also slowly being

hierarchy and that is also slowly being overcome as more racial equality again

overcome as more racial equality again

overcome as more racial equality again there’s lots of Americans who embrace

there’s lots of Americans who embrace

there’s lots of Americans who embrace that who welcomed that we celebrate that

that who welcomed that we celebrate that

that who welcomed that we celebrate that but there are some who push against that

but there are some who push against that

but there are some who push against that who were worried about that as we’ve

who were worried about that as we’ve

who were worried about that as we’ve seen tragically in places like

seen tragically in places like

seen tragically in places like Charlottesville’s last weeks and months

Charlottesville’s last weeks and months

Charlottesville’s last weeks and months and a third big transformation of course

and a third big transformation of course

and a third big transformation of course is social media now five years ago

is social media now five years ago

is social media now five years ago everybody Ford about Twitter and

everybody Ford about Twitter and

everybody Ford about Twitter and Facebook was wonderful for democracy now

Facebook was wonderful for democracy now

Facebook was wonderful for democracy now everybody thinks that for Facebook and

everybody thinks that for Facebook and

everybody thinks that for Facebook and Twitter a short to destroy democracy I

Twitter a short to destroy democracy I

Twitter a short to destroy democracy I think it’s more complicated than that

think it’s more complicated than that

think it’s more complicated than that what they do is to close the

what they do is to close the

what they do is to close the technological gap between elites and

technological gap between elites and

technological gap between elites and everybody else in some places that’s

everybody else in some places that’s

everybody else in some places that’s great and a dictatorship it gives you

great and a dictatorship it gives you

great and a dictatorship it gives you opposition more tools to challenge

opposition more tools to challenge

opposition more tools to challenge dictatorial rulers but in democracy it

dictatorial rulers but in democracy it

dictatorial rulers but in democracy it also gives hateful extreme xenophobic

also gives hateful extreme xenophobic

also gives hateful extreme xenophobic racist voices much greater ability to

racist voices much greater ability to

racist voices much greater ability to influence for political system so those

influence for political system so those

influence for political system so those are three big causes economic stagnation

are three big causes economic stagnation

are three big causes economic stagnation a challenge to our identity and the rise

a challenge to our identity and the rise

a challenge to our identity and the rise of social media I think a lot more about

of social media I think a lot more about

of social media I think a lot more about that in my book the people versus

that in my book the people versus

that in my book the people versus democracy but what I want to focus on

democracy but what I want to focus on

democracy but what I want to focus on today is what can we do about all of

today is what can we do about all of

today is what can we do about all of this how can we actually save our

this how can we actually save our

this how can we actually save our democracies and the easy answer is to

democracies and the easy answer is to

democracies and the easy answer is to say well I don’t know that we can do

say well I don’t know that we can do

say well I don’t know that we can do very much the fire of it’s raging is so

very much the fire of it’s raging is so

very much the fire of it’s raging is so huge it’s going on in so many different

huge it’s going on in so many different

huge it’s going on in so many different countries its causes are so complicated

countries its causes are so complicated

countries its causes are so complicated in each of us what can we do I was

in each of us what can we do I was

in each of us what can we do I was feeling a little disheartened about our

feeling a little disheartened about our

feeling a little disheartened about our ability to actually affect change a few

ability to actually affect change a few

ability to actually affect change a few weeks ago and I happened to listen to

weeks ago and I happened to listen to

weeks ago and I happened to listen to his great talk by almost always the

his great talk by almost always the

his great talk by almost always the wonderful novelist who is saying there

wonderful novelist who is saying there

wonderful novelist who is saying there is a big fire raging that’s right

is a big fire raging that’s right

is a big fire raging that’s right and each of us only has a little spoon

and each of us only has a little spoon

and each of us only has a little spoon and all we can do is to fill that little

and all we can do is to fill that little

and all we can do is to fill that little spoon with a little bit of water and go

spoon with a little bit of water and go

spoon with a little bit of water and go to the fire and that won’t do very much

to the fire and that won’t do very much

to the fire and that won’t do very much if I go of my spoon to the fire it’s not

if I go of my spoon to the fire it’s not

if I go of my spoon to the fire it’s not going to change anything but if all of

going to change anything but if all of

going to change anything but if all of us do that if a whole mass of us goes

us do that if a whole mass of us goes

us do that if a whole mass of us goes and do that that won’t together we might

and do that that won’t together we might

and do that that won’t together we might actually be able to

actually be able to

actually be able to extinguish the fire so today I want to

extinguish the fire so today I want to

extinguish the fire so today I want to suggest four ways in which you can carry

suggest four ways in which you can carry

suggest four ways in which you can carry that spoon for things so that might mean

that spoon for things so that might mean

that spoon for things so that might mean concretely

concretely

concretely in the context of liberal democracy the

in the context of liberal democracy the

in the context of liberal democracy the first thing to do especially in places

first thing to do especially in places

first thing to do especially in places where populace have already taken over

where populace have already taken over

where populace have already taken over like in Poland or Hungary like in the

like in Poland or Hungary like in the

like in Poland or Hungary like in the United States is to go out and protest

United States is to go out and protest

United States is to go out and protest one of the core claims that the populace

one of the core claims that the populace

one of the core claims that the populace make is that they alone stand for the

make is that they alone stand for the

make is that they alone stand for the people but the real people all support

people but the real people all support

people but the real people all support them of it anybody who disagrees with

them of it anybody who disagrees with

them of it anybody who disagrees with them is a traitor they’re not a real

them is a traitor they’re not a real

them is a traitor they’re not a real American or Paul or Hungarian and so the

American or Paul or Hungarian and so the

American or Paul or Hungarian and so the best way to challenge that is to go out

best way to challenge that is to go out

best way to challenge that is to go out in the streets and show from millions of

in the streets and show from millions of

in the streets and show from millions of people in the public squares that no the

people in the public squares that no the

people in the public squares that no the populace do not get to speak for us and

populace do not get to speak for us and

populace do not get to speak for us and that’s worked historically in South

that’s worked historically in South

that’s worked historically in South Korea last year two million people came

Korea last year two million people came

Korea last year two million people came out to Seoul Plaza to purchase the

out to Seoul Plaza to purchase the

out to Seoul Plaza to purchase the corrupt president she’s now in jail the

corrupt president she’s now in jail the

corrupt president she’s now in jail the second thing we can do is a little less

second thing we can do is a little less

second thing we can do is a little less popular it’s to actually get involved in

popular it’s to actually get involved in

popular it’s to actually get involved in ordinary boring politics and party

ordinary boring politics and party

ordinary boring politics and party politics I know from our research but a

politics I know from our research but a

politics I know from our research but a lot of young people don’t like and don’t

lot of young people don’t like and don’t

lot of young people don’t like and don’t trust traditional politics but in the

trust traditional politics but in the

trust traditional politics but in the end the best way to beat a populist is

end the best way to beat a populist is

end the best way to beat a populist is still to beat them at the polls so go

still to beat them at the polls so go

still to beat them at the polls so go and join a political party go and

and join a political party go and

and join a political party go and campaign for a candidate you like even

campaign for a candidate you like even

campaign for a candidate you like even if you’re not perfect and if you really

if you’re not perfect and if you really

if you’re not perfect and if you really can’t find any candidate you like well

can’t find any candidate you like well

can’t find any candidate you like well go and run for office yourself the third

go and run for office yourself the third

go and run for office yourself the third thing you can do is to change the kind

thing you can do is to change the kind

thing you can do is to change the kind of policies we pursue a lot of

of policies we pursue a lot of

of policies we pursue a lot of politicians want to say there’s so many

politicians want to say there’s so many

politicians want to say there’s so many big forces going on globalization

big forces going on globalization

big forces going on globalization automation there’s not much we can do

automation there’s not much we can do

automation there’s not much we can do but that’s not true we can still design

but that’s not true we can still design

but that’s not true we can still design a set of economic policies that make

a set of economic policies that make

a set of economic policies that make sure but the bulk of economic growth

sure but the bulk of economic growth

sure but the bulk of economic growth actually arrives in the wallets of

actually arrives in the wallets of

actually arrives in the wallets of ordinary people the nation-state can

ordinary people the nation-state can

ordinary people the nation-state can still be open to the world and yet

still be open to the world and yet

still be open to the world and yet ensure that it helps its citizens be in

ensure that it helps its citizens be in

ensure that it helps its citizens be in control of their lives and we can build

control of their lives and we can build

control of their lives and we can build an inclusive patriotism in which we

an inclusive patriotism in which we

an inclusive patriotism in which we emphasize what device

emphasize what device

emphasize what device what unites us across racial and

what unites us across racial and

what unites us across racial and religious lines rather than what divides

religious lines rather than what divides

religious lines rather than what divides us but we have to go and make those

us but we have to go and make those

us but we have to go and make those suggestions do that research and push it

suggestions do that research and push it

suggestions do that research and push it on to political parties that’s hard work

on to political parties that’s hard work

on to political parties that’s hard work we need to do it the fourth thing is in

we need to do it the fourth thing is in

we need to do it the fourth thing is in some ways most important to me look all

some ways most important to me look all

some ways most important to me look all the way through the history of political

the way through the history of political

the way through the history of political thinking from Plato to Aristotle from

thinking from Plato to Aristotle from

thinking from Plato to Aristotle from Machiavelli to Rousseau

Machiavelli to Rousseau

Machiavelli to Rousseau political thinkers were obsessed with

political thinkers were obsessed with

political thinkers were obsessed with the idea of educating citizens of

the idea of educating citizens of

the idea of educating citizens of transmitting political virtue from one

transmitting political virtue from one

transmitting political virtue from one generation to the next of explaining why

generation to the next of explaining why

generation to the next of explaining why we care about certain things to enjoy to

we care about certain things to enjoy to

we care about certain things to enjoy to new generations and this is something

new generations and this is something

new generations and this is something that in democratic societies we pay lip

that in democratic societies we pay lip

that in democratic societies we pay lip service to every now and again but

service to every now and again but

service to every now and again but because we’ve assumed that our

because we’ve assumed that our

because we’ve assumed that our democracies will always be stable they

democracies will always be stable they

democracies will always be stable they were not in danger we haven’t taken it

were not in danger we haven’t taken it

were not in danger we haven’t taken it very seriously of late and that’s

very seriously of late and that’s

very seriously of late and that’s something that all of us can do all of

something that all of us can do all of

something that all of us can do all of us can go and talk to our children to

us can go and talk to our children to

us can go and talk to our children to our nieces and nephews if you don’t have

our nieces and nephews if you don’t have

our nieces and nephews if you don’t have children if you’re a teacher to your

children if you’re a teacher to your

children if you’re a teacher to your students if you’re a writer to your

students if you’re a writer to your

students if you’re a writer to your readers we commit them to our basic

readers we commit them to our basic

readers we commit them to our basic values explain why liberal democracy

values explain why liberal democracy

values explain why liberal democracy where individual rights and the rule of

where individual rights and the rule of

where individual rights and the rule of the people ideals were fighting for

look everybody spoon is different

look everybody spoon is different everybody will want to attack different

everybody will want to attack different

everybody will want to attack different parts of a fire none of us can

parts of a fire none of us can

parts of a fire none of us can accomplish much on our own but if we all

accomplish much on our own but if we all

accomplish much on our own but if we all work together we can actually go a long

work together we can actually go a long

work together we can actually go a long way towards extinguishing that fire now

way towards extinguishing that fire now

way towards extinguishing that fire now this is sort of mayor more or less where

this is sort of mayor more or less where

this is sort of mayor more or less where a normal TED talk would end right I’ve

a normal TED talk would end right I’ve

a normal TED talk would end right I’ve done a little call to action I’ve said

done a little call to action I’ve said

done a little call to action I’ve said something hopefully somewhat inspiring

something hopefully somewhat inspiring

something hopefully somewhat inspiring but I want to be honest I can’t promise

but I want to be honest I can’t promise

but I want to be honest I can’t promise you a happy end I can’t promise you but

you a happy end I can’t promise you but

you a happy end I can’t promise you but everything will turn out to be great it

everything will turn out to be great it

everything will turn out to be great it may be that the rise of populism

may be that the rise of populism

may be that the rise of populism is going to turn from a populist moment

is going to turn from a populist moment

is going to turn from a populist moment to a populist age but we can’t stop and

to a populist age but we can’t stop and

to a populist age but we can’t stop and so I’ve been thinking a lot about a very

so I’ve been thinking a lot about a very

so I’ve been thinking a lot about a very old story

old story

old story back from the Roman Empire and includes

back from the Roman Empire and includes

back from the Roman Empire and includes a senator philosopher and a famous

a senator philosopher and a famous

a senator philosopher and a famous dictator Nero at the heart of his rule

dictator Nero at the heart of his rule

dictator Nero at the heart of his rule Nero

Nero

Nero demanded a famous Roman senator to go

demanded a famous Roman senator to go

demanded a famous Roman senator to go and dance in his games a huge

and dance in his games a huge

and dance in his games a huge humiliation and way of showing fealty

humiliation and way of showing fealty

humiliation and way of showing fealty and the senator didn’t know what to do

and the senator didn’t know what to do

and the senator didn’t know what to do so he went to a philosopher to ask for

so he went to a philosopher to ask for

so he went to a philosopher to ask for advice and he said look if I go and

advice and he said look if I go and

advice and he said look if I go and partake in the game I bring shame upon

partake in the game I bring shame upon

partake in the game I bring shame upon my family and I endorse Nero but if I

my family and I endorse Nero but if I

my family and I endorse Nero but if I don’t he’ll probably have my head cut

don’t he’ll probably have my head cut

don’t he’ll probably have my head cut off what should I do and you know he

off what should I do and you know he

off what should I do and you know he expected with loss of to say well he

expected with loss of to say well he

expected with loss of to say well he should do the right thing he’s a

should do the right thing he’s a

should do the right thing he’s a philosopher right of course you should

philosopher right of course you should

philosopher right of course you should do the right thing stand up for what’s

do the right thing stand up for what’s

do the right thing stand up for what’s right don’t go to the games

right don’t go to the games

right don’t go to the games but if philosopher didn’t say that he

but if philosopher didn’t say that he

but if philosopher didn’t say that he said look the way you asking the

said look the way you asking the

said look the way you asking the question maze will go and take part in

question maze will go and take part in

question maze will go and take part in the games

the games

the games I’m Ascenta was flummoxed he said really

I’m Ascenta was flummoxed he said really

I’m Ascenta was flummoxed he said really so why don’t you go take part in the

so why don’t you go take part in the

so why don’t you go take part in the games what are you talking about and

games what are you talking about and

games what are you talking about and philosophy explain to say look once you

philosophy explain to say look once you

philosophy explain to say look once you start thinking about those kinds of

start thinking about those kinds of

start thinking about those kinds of things once you start doing the sums

things once you start doing the sums

things once you start doing the sums once you start considering should I go

once you start considering should I go

once you start considering should I go should I not go you’ve already lost your

should I not go you’ve already lost your

should I not go you’ve already lost your character if you ask me is it gonna have

character if you ask me is it gonna have

character if you ask me is it gonna have good consequences if I go should I

good consequences if I go should I

good consequences if I go should I rather live and die of course you should

rather live and die of course you should

rather live and die of course you should rather live and die of course pain is

rather live and die of course pain is

rather live and die of course pain is better than pleasure is better than pain

better than pleasure is better than pain

better than pleasure is better than pain so sure though I am not even thinking

so sure though I am not even thinking

so sure though I am not even thinking about it and I found that advice a

about it and I found that advice a

about it and I found that advice a little puzzling but story a little

little puzzling but story a little

little puzzling but story a little puzzling but it speaks to me in a deep

puzzling but it speaks to me in a deep

puzzling but it speaks to me in a deep way because I think it shows that we

way because I think it shows that we

way because I think it shows that we need to commit ourselves now while we’re

need to commit ourselves now while we’re

need to commit ourselves now while we’re not yet in danger while we can still

not yet in danger while we can still

not yet in danger while we can still speak up freely for our rights when to

speak up freely for our rights when to

speak up freely for our rights when to commit ourselves in two ways when you

commit ourselves in two ways when you

commit ourselves in two ways when you commit ourselves to make sure we never

commit ourselves to make sure we never

commit ourselves to make sure we never get into a situation we’re doing the

get into a situation we’re doing the

get into a situation we’re doing the right thing it’s as dangerous as it was

right thing it’s as dangerous as it was

right thing it’s as dangerous as it was for that senator back in Rome and we

for that senator back in Rome and we

for that senator back in Rome and we also need to commit ourselves to the

also need to commit ourselves to the

also need to commit ourselves to the courage and the virtue that it takes an

courage and the virtue that it takes an

courage and the virtue that it takes an extraordinary times to stand up for the

extraordinary times to stand up for the

extraordinary times to stand up for the right thing in the right moment I’m

right thing in the right moment I’m

right thing in the right moment I’m going to think about that now because if

going to think about that now because if

going to think about that now because if we only start thinking about it once we

we only start thinking about it once we

we only start thinking about it once we face real danger it’s likely going to be

face real danger it’s likely going to be

face real danger it’s likely going to be too late with

too late with

too late with to do the sums and we’re going to be

to do the sums and we’re going to be

to do the sums and we’re going to be like that senator who ends up dancing in

like that senator who ends up dancing in

like that senator who ends up dancing in the games so I want each of you to take

the games so I want each of you to take

the games so I want each of you to take a moment if you agree with the

a moment if you agree with the

a moment if you agree with the importance of liberal democracy all the

importance of liberal democracy all the

importance of liberal democracy all the things I’ve been talking about to take a

things I’ve been talking about to take a

things I’ve been talking about to take a pledge not to me not to anybody else to

pledge not to me not to anybody else to

pledge not to me not to anybody else to yourself that you will start carrying

yourself that you will start carrying

yourself that you will start carrying the little spoon to the fire as much as

the little spoon to the fire as much as

the little spoon to the fire as much as you can but even when it starts to feel

you can but even when it starts to feel

you can but even when it starts to feel dangerous to carry the spoon even when

dangerous to carry the spoon even when

dangerous to carry the spoon even when it starts to feel futile you’ll do what

it starts to feel futile you’ll do what

it starts to feel futile you’ll do what you can to defend liberal democracy

you can to defend liberal democracy

you can to defend liberal democracy thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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