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well hello this is Sophie now it’s it’s

well hello this is Sophie now it’s it’s it’s all right don’t worry everything’s

it’s all right don’t worry everything’s

it’s all right don’t worry everything’s gonna be fine there are some people on

gonna be fine there are some people on

gonna be fine there are some people on the balcony that are very happy to be

the balcony that are very happy to be

the balcony that are very happy to be out there now so this is Sophie not

out there now so this is Sophie not

out there now so this is Sophie not Sophia no Sophie now she has a French

Sophia no Sophie now she has a French

Sophia no Sophie now she has a French name now you wonder why so Sophie for

name now you wonder why so Sophie for

name now you wonder why so Sophie for most people is the incarnation of terror

most people is the incarnation of terror

most people is the incarnation of terror ready she’s far too leggy she’s far too

ready she’s far too leggy she’s far too

ready she’s far too leggy she’s far too hairy and she’s far too big to ever be

hairy and she’s far too big to ever be

hairy and she’s far too big to ever be trusted but to me Sophie is a fantastic

trusted but to me Sophie is a fantastic

trusted but to me Sophie is a fantastic feat of bioengineering you see Sophie is

feat of bioengineering you see Sophie is

feat of bioengineering you see Sophie is a testimony to all those creatures that

a testimony to all those creatures that

a testimony to all those creatures that have managed to survive since the

have managed to survive since the

have managed to survive since the beginning of times all those animals

beginning of times all those animals

beginning of times all those animals that have managed to have offspring

that have managed to have offspring

that have managed to have offspring generation after generation until this

generation after generation until this

generation after generation until this day if he over 1 billion years ago the

day if he over 1 billion years ago the

day if he over 1 billion years ago the first primitive cells have started to

first primitive cells have started to

first primitive cells have started to evolve on this planet he took spiders

evolve on this planet he took spiders

evolve on this planet he took spiders 430 million years to become what they

430 million years to become what they

430 million years to become what they are now one of the most versatile one of

are now one of the most versatile one of

are now one of the most versatile one of the most diverse and one of the most

the most diverse and one of the most

the most diverse and one of the most evolved group of predators to ever walk

evolved group of predators to ever walk

evolved group of predators to ever walk this earth it’s actually quite sporty to

this earth it’s actually quite sporty to

this earth it’s actually quite sporty to give a speech while wrangling a

give a speech while wrangling a

give a speech while wrangling a tarantula I have to say so we shouldn’t

tarantula I have to say so we shouldn’t

tarantula I have to say so we shouldn’t forget that Sophie and in fact all of us

forget that Sophie and in fact all of us

forget that Sophie and in fact all of us with all our testimony to all those

with all our testimony to all those

with all our testimony to all those ruthless battles that actually we’re won

ruthless battles that actually we’re won

ruthless battles that actually we’re won consistently by all ancestors all our

consistently by all ancestors all our

consistently by all ancestors all our predecessors in fact all of us every

predecessors in fact all of us every

predecessors in fact all of us every single one of one of you is in fact an

single one of one of you is in fact an

single one of one of you is in fact an interrupted one billion years old

interrupted one billion years old

interrupted one billion years old success story and in the case of Sophie

success story and in the case of Sophie

success story and in the case of Sophie that success is partly due to what she

that success is partly due to what she

that success is partly due to what she has in chess just on the rise in there

has in chess just on the rise in there

has in chess just on the rise in there she has a pair of venom glands that are

she has a pair of venom glands that are

she has a pair of venom glands that are attached to a pair of fangs and those

attached to a pair of fangs and those

attached to a pair of fangs and those fangs are folded into a mouth

fangs are folded into a mouth

fangs are folded into a mouth so without those fangs and without this

so without those fangs and without this

so without those fangs and without this venom Sophie would have never managed to

venom Sophie would have never managed to

venom Sophie would have never managed to survive

survive

survive now many animals have evolved to venom

now many animals have evolved to venom

now many animals have evolved to venom systems in order to survive nowadays any

systems in order to survive nowadays any

systems in order to survive nowadays any species of venomous snakes any species

species of venomous snakes any species

species of venomous snakes any species of spider any species of scorpion has

of spider any species of scorpion has

of spider any species of scorpion has its own venom signature if you want made

its own venom signature if you want made

its own venom signature if you want made out of dozen if not hundreds chemical

out of dozen if not hundreds chemical

out of dozen if not hundreds chemical compounds and all of those compounds

compounds and all of those compounds

compounds and all of those compounds have evolved purely for one purpose

have evolved purely for one purpose

have evolved purely for one purpose disable and eventually kill now venom

disable and eventually kill now venom

disable and eventually kill now venom can actually act in many different ways

can actually act in many different ways

can actually act in many different ways venom believe me can make you feel pains

venom believe me can make you feel pains

venom believe me can make you feel pains that you’ve never felt before venom can

that you’ve never felt before venom can

that you’ve never felt before venom can also make your heart stop within minutes

also make your heart stop within minutes

also make your heart stop within minutes or it can turn your blood into jelly

or it can turn your blood into jelly

or it can turn your blood into jelly venom can also paralyze you almost

venom can also paralyze you almost

venom can also paralyze you almost instantly or it can just eat your flesh

instantly or it can just eat your flesh

instantly or it can just eat your flesh away like acid now all these are pretty

away like acid now all these are pretty

away like acid now all these are pretty gruesome stories I know but to me it’s

gruesome stories I know but to me it’s

gruesome stories I know but to me it’s kind of music to my ears it’s what I

kind of music to my ears it’s what I

kind of music to my ears it’s what I love so why is that well it’s not

love so why is that well it’s not

love so why is that well it’s not because I’m a nutcase no just imagine

because I’m a nutcase no just imagine

because I’m a nutcase no just imagine just imagine what we could do if we

just imagine what we could do if we

just imagine what we could do if we could harvest all those super powerful

could harvest all those super powerful

could harvest all those super powerful compounds and use them to our benefit

compounds and use them to our benefit

compounds and use them to our benefit that would be amazing right what if we

that would be amazing right what if we

that would be amazing right what if we could I don’t know produce new

could I don’t know produce new

could I don’t know produce new antibiotics with those venom what if we

antibiotics with those venom what if we

antibiotics with those venom what if we could actually help people that are

could actually help people that are

could actually help people that are suffering from diabetes or hypertension

suffering from diabetes or hypertension

suffering from diabetes or hypertension well in fact all those applications are

well in fact all those applications are

well in fact all those applications are already being developed by scientists

already being developed by scientists

already being developed by scientists just like me

just like me

just like me everywhere around the world as I speak

everywhere around the world as I speak

everywhere around the world as I speak you see hypertension is actually treated

you see hypertension is actually treated

you see hypertension is actually treated regularly with a medication that has

regularly with a medication that has

regularly with a medication that has been developed from the toxin that is

been developed from the toxin that is

been developed from the toxin that is produced by a South American Viper

produced by a South American Viper

produced by a South American Viper people that have type 2 diabetes can be

people that have type 2 diabetes can be

people that have type 2 diabetes can be monitored using actually the toxin

monitored using actually the toxin

monitored using actually the toxin produced by a lizard from North America

produced by a lizard from North America

produced by a lizard from North America and in hospitals all around the world a

and in hospitals all around the world a

and in hospitals all around the world a new protocol is being developed to use a

new protocol is being developed to use a

new protocol is being developed to use a toxin from a marine snail for

toxin from a marine snail for

toxin from a marine snail for anesthetics

anesthetics

anesthetics you see venom is that kind of huge

you see venom is that kind of huge

you see venom is that kind of huge library of venom of chemical compounds

library of venom of chemical compounds

library of venom of chemical compounds that are available to us that are

that are available to us that are

that are available to us that are produced by hundreds of thousands of

produced by hundreds of thousands of

produced by hundreds of thousands of live creatures and sorry she just wants

live creatures and sorry she just wants

live creatures and sorry she just wants to go for a little walk

to go for a little walk

to go for a little walk spider saloon actually thought to

spider saloon actually thought to

spider saloon actually thought to produce over 10 million different kinds

produce over 10 million different kinds

produce over 10 million different kinds of compounds with potential therapeutic

of compounds with potential therapeutic

of compounds with potential therapeutic application ten millions and do you know

application ten millions and do you know

application ten millions and do you know how many scientists actually have

how many scientists actually have

how many scientists actually have managed to study so far about 0.01

managed to study so far about 0.01

managed to study so far about 0.01 percent so that mean that there is still

percent so that mean that there is still

percent so that mean that there is still 99.99% of all those compounds that are

99.99% of all those compounds that are

99.99% of all those compounds that are out there completely unknown and are

out there completely unknown and are

out there completely unknown and are just waiting to be harvested and tested

just waiting to be harvested and tested

just waiting to be harvested and tested which is fantastic you see so far

which is fantastic you see so far

which is fantastic you see so far scientists have concentrated effort on

scientists have concentrated effort on

scientists have concentrated effort on very charismatic very dangerous animals

very charismatic very dangerous animals

very charismatic very dangerous animals Vipers and cobras or scorpions and black

Vipers and cobras or scorpions and black

Vipers and cobras or scorpions and black widows but what about all those little

widows but what about all those little

widows but what about all those little bugs that we have actually are all

bugs that we have actually are all

bugs that we have actually are all around us you know like that spider that

around us you know like that spider that

around us you know like that spider that leaves behind your couch you know the

leaves behind your couch you know the

leaves behind your couch you know the one that decide to just shoot through

one that decide to just shoot through

one that decide to just shoot through the floor when you’re watching TV and

the floor when you’re watching TV and

the floor when you’re watching TV and freak you out you have that one at home

freak you out you have that one at home

freak you out you have that one at home as well well what about those guys do

as well well what about those guys do

as well well what about those guys do they actually produce some kind of

they actually produce some kind of

they actually produce some kind of amazing compound in the tiny body as

amazing compound in the tiny body as

amazing compound in the tiny body as well well our honest answer a few months

well well our honest answer a few months

well well our honest answer a few months ago would have been we have no clue but

ago would have been we have no clue but

ago would have been we have no clue but now that my students and myself has

now that my students and myself has

now that my students and myself has started to look into it I can tell you

started to look into it I can tell you

started to look into it I can tell you those guys actually are producing very

those guys actually are producing very

those guys actually are producing very very interesting compounds and I’m going

very interesting compounds and I’m going

very interesting compounds and I’m going to tell you more about that in a second

to tell you more about that in a second

to tell you more about that in a second but first I would like to tell you more

but first I would like to tell you more

but first I would like to tell you more about this we are looking into it how

about this we are looking into it how

about this we are looking into it how does one look into it well first of all

does one look into it well first of all

does one look into it well first of all my students and I have to capture a lot

my students and I have to capture a lot

my students and I have to capture a lot of spiders so how do we do that well

of spiders so how do we do that well

of spiders so how do we do that well you’d be surprised

you’d be surprised

you’d be surprised once one start to look one finds a lot

once one start to look one finds a lot

once one start to look one finds a lot of spiders they actually live everywhere

of spiders they actually live everywhere

of spiders they actually live everywhere around us within a couple of hours we

around us within a couple of hours we

around us within a couple of hours we are capable of kept catching maybe two

are capable of kept catching maybe two

are capable of kept catching maybe two three four hundred spiders

three four hundred spiders

three four hundred spiders and we bring them back to my laboratory

and we bring them back to my laboratory

and we bring them back to my laboratory and we house each of them in its own

and we house each of them in its own

and we house each of them in its own individual home and we give each of them

individual home and we give each of them

individual home and we give each of them a little meal so now I know what you’re

a little meal so now I know what you’re

a little meal so now I know what you’re thinking this guy’s nuts he has a spider

thinking this guy’s nuts he has a spider

thinking this guy’s nuts he has a spider B&B at work no no it’s not exactly that

B&B at work no no it’s not exactly that

B&B at work no no it’s not exactly that and it’s not the kind of venture I would

and it’s not the kind of venture I would

and it’s not the kind of venture I would I would advise you to start now once we

I would advise you to start now once we

I would advise you to start now once we are done with that we wait a few days

are done with that we wait a few days

are done with that we wait a few days and then we anesthetize those spiders

and then we anesthetize those spiders

and then we anesthetize those spiders once they’re asleep we run a tiny little

once they’re asleep we run a tiny little

once they’re asleep we run a tiny little electric current through the body and

electric current through the body and

electric current through the body and that contracts the venom glands then

that contracts the venom glands then

that contracts the venom glands then under a microscope we can see a tiny

under a microscope we can see a tiny

under a microscope we can see a tiny little droplet of venom appearing so we

little droplet of venom appearing so we

little droplet of venom appearing so we take a hair thin glass tube a capillary

take a hair thin glass tube a capillary

take a hair thin glass tube a capillary and we collect the tiny droplets then we

and we collect the tiny droplets then we

and we collect the tiny droplets then we take the spider and we put it back into

take the spider and we put it back into

take the spider and we put it back into its home and we start again with another

its home and we start again with another

its home and we start again with another one because spiders are completely

one because spiders are completely

one because spiders are completely unharmed during the process it means

unharmed during the process it means

unharmed during the process it means that a few days later once they’ve

that a few days later once they’ve

that a few days later once they’ve produced a little bit of venom again and

produced a little bit of venom again and

produced a little bit of venom again and that they’ve recovered we can release

that they’ve recovered we can release

that they’ve recovered we can release them back in the wild it takes literally

them back in the wild it takes literally

them back in the wild it takes literally thousands of spiders to just produce the

thousands of spiders to just produce the

thousands of spiders to just produce the equivalent of one raindrop of venom so

equivalent of one raindrop of venom so

equivalent of one raindrop of venom so that drop is incredibly precious to us

that drop is incredibly precious to us

that drop is incredibly precious to us and once we have it we freeze it and we

and once we have it we freeze it and we

and once we have it we freeze it and we then pass it in a machine that will

then pass it in a machine that will

then pass it in a machine that will separate and purify every chemical

separate and purify every chemical

separate and purify every chemical compound that is in that venom we’re

compound that is in that venom we’re

compound that is in that venom we’re speaking about tiny amounts we’re

speaking about tiny amounts we’re

speaking about tiny amounts we’re actually speaking about tenth of a

actually speaking about tenth of a

actually speaking about tenth of a millionth of a liter of compound but we

millionth of a liter of compound but we

millionth of a liter of compound but we can dilute that compound several

can dilute that compound several

can dilute that compound several thousand times in its own volume of

thousand times in its own volume of

thousand times in its own volume of water and then test it against a whole

water and then test it against a whole

water and then test it against a whole range of nasty stuff like cancer cells

range of nasty stuff like cancer cells

range of nasty stuff like cancer cells or bacteria and this this is when the

or bacteria and this this is when the

or bacteria and this this is when the very exciting part of my job starts

very exciting part of my job starts

very exciting part of my job starts because this is pure scientific gambling

because this is pure scientific gambling

because this is pure scientific gambling it’s kind of Las Vegas baby for me it’s

it’s kind of Las Vegas baby for me it’s

it’s kind of Las Vegas baby for me it’s we spend so many hours so much resources

we spend so many hours so much resources

we spend so many hours so much resources so much time trying to get those

so much time trying to get those

so much time trying to get those compounds ready and then we test them

compounds ready and then we test them

compounds ready and then we test them and most of the time nothing happens

and most of the time nothing happens

and most of the time nothing happens nothing at all

nothing at all

nothing at all but once in a while just once in a while

but once in a while just once in a while

but once in a while just once in a while we

we

we get that particular compound that has

get that particular compound that has

get that particular compound that has absolutely amazing effect that’s the

absolutely amazing effect that’s the

absolutely amazing effect that’s the jackpot and when I’m saying that

jackpot and when I’m saying that

jackpot and when I’m saying that actually I should take out something

actually I should take out something

actually I should take out something else from my pocket be afraid be very

else from my pocket be afraid be very

else from my pocket be afraid be very afraid now in that little tube I have

afraid now in that little tube I have

afraid now in that little tube I have actually a very common spider the kind

actually a very common spider the kind

actually a very common spider the kind of spiders that you could find in your

of spiders that you could find in your

of spiders that you could find in your shed that you could find in your

shed that you could find in your

shed that you could find in your basement or that you could find in your

basement or that you could find in your

basement or that you could find in your sewer pipe understand in your toilet now

sewer pipe understand in your toilet now

sewer pipe understand in your toilet now that little spider happens to produce

that little spider happens to produce

that little spider happens to produce amazingly powerful antimicrobial

amazingly powerful antimicrobial

amazingly powerful antimicrobial compounds it is even capable of killing

compounds it is even capable of killing

compounds it is even capable of killing those drug resistant bacteria that are

those drug resistant bacteria that are

those drug resistant bacteria that are giving us so much trouble that are often

giving us so much trouble that are often

giving us so much trouble that are often making media headlines now honestly if I

making media headlines now honestly if I

making media headlines now honestly if I was living in new sewer pipe

was living in new sewer pipe

was living in new sewer pipe I’d produce antibiotics too but that

I’d produce antibiotics too but that

I’d produce antibiotics too but that little spider actually may hold the

little spider actually may hold the

little spider actually may hold the answer to a very very serious concern we

answer to a very very serious concern we

answer to a very very serious concern we have you see around the world every

have you see around the world every

have you see around the world every single day about 1,700 people died

single day about 1,700 people died

single day about 1,700 people died because of antimicrobial resistant

because of antimicrobial resistant

because of antimicrobial resistant infections multiply that by 365 and

infections multiply that by 365 and

infections multiply that by 365 and you’re reaching the staggering number of

you’re reaching the staggering number of

you’re reaching the staggering number of 700,000 people dead every single year

700,000 people dead every single year

700,000 people dead every single year because antibiotics that were efficient

because antibiotics that were efficient

because antibiotics that were efficient 30 20 or 10 years ago are not capable of

30 20 or 10 years ago are not capable of

30 20 or 10 years ago are not capable of killing very common bugs the reality is

killing very common bugs the reality is

killing very common bugs the reality is that the world is running out of

that the world is running out of

that the world is running out of antibiotics and the pharmaceutical

antibiotics and the pharmaceutical

antibiotics and the pharmaceutical industry does not have any answer

industry does not have any answer

industry does not have any answer actually any weapon to address that

actually any weapon to address that

actually any weapon to address that concern you see 30 years ago you could

concern you see 30 years ago you could

concern you see 30 years ago you could consider that 10 to 15 new kinds of

consider that 10 to 15 new kinds of

consider that 10 to 15 new kinds of antibiotics would hit the market every

antibiotics would hit the market every

antibiotics would hit the market every couple of years do you know how many of

couple of years do you know how many of

couple of years do you know how many of them hit the market in the past five

them hit the market in the past five

them hit the market in the past five years – the reality is that if we

years – the reality is that if we

years – the reality is that if we continue this way we are few decades

continue this way we are few decades

continue this way we are few decades away to be completely helpless in front

away to be completely helpless in front

away to be completely helpless in front of infections just like we were before

of infections just like we were before

of infections just like we were before the discovery of penicillin 90 years ago

the discovery of penicillin 90 years ago

the discovery of penicillin 90 years ago the World Health Organization estimates

the World Health Organization estimates

the World Health Organization estimates that if nothing is done at this rate in

that if nothing is done at this rate in

that if nothing is done at this rate in 2050 40 million people will die

2050 40 million people will die

2050 40 million people will die from infection every single year so you

from infection every single year so you

from infection every single year so you see the reality is that we are at war

see the reality is that we are at war

see the reality is that we are at war against an invisible enemy that adapts

against an invisible enemy that adapts

against an invisible enemy that adapts and evolves a lot quicker than we do and

and evolves a lot quicker than we do and

and evolves a lot quicker than we do and in that war this little spider might be

in that war this little spider might be

in that war this little spider might be one of a greatest secret weapon just

one of a greatest secret weapon just

one of a greatest secret weapon just half a millionth of a liter of a venom

half a millionth of a liter of a venom

half a millionth of a liter of a venom diluted 10,000 times is still capable of

diluted 10,000 times is still capable of

diluted 10,000 times is still capable of killing most bacteria that are resistant

killing most bacteria that are resistant

killing most bacteria that are resistant to any other kind of antibiotics it’s

to any other kind of antibiotics it’s

to any other kind of antibiotics it’s absolutely amazing

absolutely amazing

absolutely amazing every time I repeat this experiment I

every time I repeat this experiment I

every time I repeat this experiment I just wonder how is that possible how

just wonder how is that possible how

just wonder how is that possible how many other possibilities and secrets all

many other possibilities and secrets all

many other possibilities and secrets all siblings do actually have what kind of

siblings do actually have what kind of

siblings do actually have what kind of wonderful product can we really find out

wonderful product can we really find out

wonderful product can we really find out if we care to look so when people ask me

if we care to look so when people ask me

if we care to look so when people ask me are birds really the future of

are birds really the future of

are birds really the future of therapeutic drugs my answer is well I

therapeutic drugs my answer is well I

therapeutic drugs my answer is well I really believe that they do all some key

really believe that they do all some key

really believe that they do all some key answers and we need to give ourselves

answers and we need to give ourselves

answers and we need to give ourselves really the means to investigate them so

really the means to investigate them so

really the means to investigate them so when you head back home later tonight

when you head back home later tonight

when you head back home later tonight and that you see that spider in the

and that you see that spider in the

and that you see that spider in the corner of your own don’t squash it

just look at it admire it and remember

just look at it admire it and remember that it is an absolutely fantastic

that it is an absolutely fantastic

that it is an absolutely fantastic creature a pure product of evolution and

creature a pure product of evolution and

creature a pure product of evolution and that maybe that very spider one day

that maybe that very spider one day

that maybe that very spider one day we’ll all the answer will hold the key

we’ll all the answer will hold the key

we’ll all the answer will hold the key to your very own survival you see she’s

to your very own survival you see she’s

to your very own survival you see she’s not so insignificant anymore now is she

not so insignificant anymore now is she

not so insignificant anymore now is she thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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