bitter interesting looks like the presentation is going to
looks like the presentation is going to
looks like the presentation is going to be a little broken but never mind
be a little broken but never mind
be a little broken but never mind so there have always been you know small
so there have always been you know small
so there have always been you know small groups of very smart people who are
groups of very smart people who are
groups of very smart people who are using the information asymmetry to to
using the information asymmetry to to
using the information asymmetry to to trick large groups of not so
trick large groups of not so
trick large groups of not so well-informed people and and they were
well-informed people and and they were
well-informed people and and they were doing all sorts of cones also the all
doing all sorts of cones also the all
doing all sorts of cones also the all sorts of all sorts of tricks and it’s
sorts of all sorts of tricks and it’s
sorts of all sorts of tricks and it’s been like this for centuries maybe even
been like this for centuries maybe even
been like this for centuries maybe even millennia and and you can say that you
millennia and and you can say that you
millennia and and you can say that you know many people say diamonds are
know many people say diamonds are
know many people say diamonds are forever and I would say combs scans our
forever and I would say combs scans our
forever and I would say combs scans our scans are forever and let me give you a
scans are forever and let me give you a
scans are forever and let me give you a little example of what I mean by by
little example of what I mean by by
little example of what I mean by by information asymmetry so during the
information asymmetry so during the
information asymmetry so during the early 90s after the Revolution many of
early 90s after the Revolution many of
early 90s after the Revolution many of you are probably not even born back then
you are probably not even born back then
you are probably not even born back then but you could see these kind of people
but you could see these kind of people
but you could see these kind of people on the streets so these were these were
on the streets so these were these were
on the streets so these were these were guys who were inviting people to play
guys who were inviting people to play
guys who were inviting people to play this little game
this little game
this little game it’s called shells chosen ball and the
it’s called shells chosen ball and the
it’s called shells chosen ball and the point of the game is they invite you to
point of the game is they invite you to
point of the game is they invite you to bet money they will put a ball under one
bet money they will put a ball under one
bet money they will put a ball under one of the shells so they will shuffle the
of the shells so they will shuffle the
of the shells so they will shuffle the shoals around and you’re supposed to
shoals around and you’re supposed to
shoals around and you’re supposed to watch them and I watch the ball and
watch them and I watch the ball and
watch them and I watch the ball and until under which show are the bullies
until under which show are the bullies
until under which show are the bullies sound sounds like a you know easy task
sound sounds like a you know easy task
sound sounds like a you know easy task right unfortunately it’s not an honest
right unfortunately it’s not an honest
right unfortunately it’s not an honest game like many people thought and these
game like many people thought and these
game like many people thought and these guys were scammers you know they would
guys were scammers you know they would
guys were scammers you know they would they would lure you in they would give
they would lure you in they would give
they would lure you in they would give you a few quick wings so this is called
you a few quick wings so this is called
you a few quick wings so this is called hooking so they hooked you and then
hooking so they hooked you and then
hooking so they hooked you and then after you got really excited you felt
after you got really excited you felt
after you got really excited you felt like you were on the
like you were on the
like you were on the they you started losing you know all the
they you started losing you know all the
they you started losing you know all the sudden all the luck was gone and the
sudden all the luck was gone and the
sudden all the luck was gone and the problem is you know this wasn’t an
problem is you know this wasn’t an
problem is you know this wasn’t an honest game so so these guys were kind
honest game so so these guys were kind
honest game so so these guys were kind of like magicians they were they were
of like magicians they were they were
of like magicians they were they were using a sleight of hand to to plant the
using a sleight of hand to to plant the
using a sleight of hand to to plant the bow under pretty much any show of their
bow under pretty much any show of their
bow under pretty much any show of their choice and if you want to see how it
choice and if you want to see how it
choice and if you want to see how it works
works
works Google Penn & Teller clear cups and
Google Penn & Teller clear cups and
Google Penn & Teller clear cups and balls not now obviously after after my
balls not now obviously after after my
balls not now obviously after after my talk or after during the break and Penn
talk or after during the break and Penn
talk or after during the break and Penn and Teller are magicians who are doing
and Teller are magicians who are doing
and Teller are magicians who are doing this trick with with clear cups so it’s
this trick with with clear cups so it’s
this trick with with clear cups so it’s it’s really obvious it’s really visible
it’s really obvious it’s really visible
it’s really obvious it’s really visible how this how this works and you know
how this how this works and you know
how this how this works and you know media newspapers and magazines ran a lot
media newspapers and magazines ran a lot
media newspapers and magazines ran a lot of articles about this and and people
of articles about this and and people
of articles about this and and people are realized that this is a scam you
are realized that this is a scam you
are realized that this is a scam you know they they’re not supposed to play
know they they’re not supposed to play
know they they’re not supposed to play this game and and it helped you know it
this game and and it helped you know it
this game and and it helped you know it killed the information asymmetry here so
killed the information asymmetry here so
killed the information asymmetry here so they realized it’s not a fair game and
they realized it’s not a fair game and
they realized it’s not a fair game and and these guys the previous guys they
and these guys the previous guys they
and these guys the previous guys they had to figure out some other way to make
had to figure out some other way to make
had to figure out some other way to make money and they moved on to two other
money and they moved on to two other
money and they moved on to two other scams and and these kinds of games
scams and and these kinds of games
scams and and these kinds of games disappeared and these days we have a lot
disappeared and these days we have a lot
disappeared and these days we have a lot of you know information we have
of you know information we have
of you know information we have technologies and we have access to all
technologies and we have access to all
technologies and we have access to all of the information so we should be safer
of the information so we should be safer
of the information so we should be safer right but we’re not we are you know up
so so we’re attacked by by
so so we’re attacked by by cybercriminals on on daily basis and and
cybercriminals on on daily basis and and
cybercriminals on on daily basis and and why is it you know I’ll give you another
why is it you know I’ll give you another
why is it you know I’ll give you another example cars are over 100 years old and
example cars are over 100 years old and
example cars are over 100 years old and it took them decades to become common
it took them decades to become common
it took them decades to become common parts of our lives so you know the
parts of our lives so you know the
parts of our lives so you know the society had lots of time to adjust lots
society had lots of time to adjust lots
society had lots of time to adjust lots of time to create rules for the traffic
of time to create rules for the traffic
of time to create rules for the traffic lots of time to to make cars safer so we
lots of time to to make cars safer so we
lots of time to to make cars safer so we don’t get killed in them and you know
don’t get killed in them and you know
don’t get killed in them and you know these days they feel quite safe using
these days they feel quite safe using
these days they feel quite safe using cars of course accidents happen all the
cars of course accidents happen all the
cars of course accidents happen all the time but but it’s nothing major you know
time but but it’s nothing major you know
time but but it’s nothing major you know everybody is using cars whereas you know
everybody is using cars whereas you know
everybody is using cars whereas you know modern technologies like the internet
modern technologies like the internet
modern technologies like the internet you know they were introduced not very
you know they were introduced not very
you know they were introduced not very long time ago and all of the sudden
long time ago and all of the sudden
long time ago and all of the sudden everybody embraced them and you know we
everybody embraced them and you know we
everybody embraced them and you know we became pretty much pretty much dependent
became pretty much pretty much dependent
became pretty much pretty much dependent on those technologies and and the
on those technologies and and the
on those technologies and and the problem is we don’t really understand
problem is we don’t really understand
problem is we don’t really understand them you know a lot of people are using
them you know a lot of people are using
them you know a lot of people are using these technologies but they’re so
these technologies but they’re so
these technologies but they’re so complex they don’t really understand how
complex they don’t really understand how
complex they don’t really understand how they work and this is creating a huge
they work and this is creating a huge
they work and this is creating a huge information asymmetry which as you can
information asymmetry which as you can
information asymmetry which as you can see from the previous example is very
see from the previous example is very
see from the previous example is very good for for the bad guys for the cyber
good for for the bad guys for the cyber
good for for the bad guys for the cyber criminals and now let me give you a
criminals and now let me give you a
criminals and now let me give you a short history of of cybercrime and you
short history of of cybercrime and you
short history of of cybercrime and you know obviously cyber crime hasn’t been
know obviously cyber crime hasn’t been
know obviously cyber crime hasn’t been around for a very long time it’s a it’s
around for a very long time it’s a it’s
around for a very long time it’s a it’s a fairly new thing in fact you know we
a fairly new thing in fact you know we
a fairly new thing in fact you know we are celebrating 30th anniversary of our
are celebrating 30th anniversary of our
are celebrating 30th anniversary of our first product which was done in 1987
first product which was done in 1987
first product which was done in 1987 when the first computer viruses
when the first computer viruses
when the first computer viruses appeared and back then the viruses they
appeared and back then the viruses they
appeared and back then the viruses they were not really you know a crime or you
were not really you know a crime or you
were not really you know a crime or you know people didn’t who made them we
know people didn’t who made them we
know people didn’t who made them we didn’t call them cyber criminals because
didn’t call them cyber criminals because
didn’t call them cyber criminals because they did them for fun fame
they did them for fun fame
they did them for fun fame you know they liked seeing their virus
you know they liked seeing their virus
you know they liked seeing their virus in the news that it caused some turmoil
in the news that it caused some turmoil
in the news that it caused some turmoil but and of course some of them destroyed
but and of course some of them destroyed
but and of course some of them destroyed things some of them might make problems
things some of them might make problems
things some of them might make problems for for people or companies but but
for for people or companies but but
for for people or companies but but quite often there wasn’t really any
quite often there wasn’t really any
quite often there wasn’t really any malicious intent but maybe 10-15 years
malicious intent but maybe 10-15 years
malicious intent but maybe 10-15 years later these guys who were making mother
later these guys who were making mother
later these guys who were making mother who were making viruses they realized
who were making viruses they realized
who were making viruses they realized they can make a lot of money on those
they can make a lot of money on those
they can make a lot of money on those and and they invented a whole bunch of
and and they invented a whole bunch of
and and they invented a whole bunch of techniques how to make money you know
techniques how to make money you know
techniques how to make money you know and things like banking Trojans were
and things like banking Trojans were
and things like banking Trojans were introduced so that some over which will
introduced so that some over which will
introduced so that some over which will allow it occurs to basically rob your
allow it occurs to basically rob your
allow it occurs to basically rob your bank account clean viruses or malware
bank account clean viruses or malware
bank account clean viruses or malware started to be using even in cyber
started to be using even in cyber
started to be using even in cyber warfare for political reasons for
warfare for political reasons for
warfare for political reasons for example in 2010 you might know a case
example in 2010 you might know a case
example in 2010 you might know a case called Stuxnet which was a which was
called Stuxnet which was a which was
called Stuxnet which was a which was another which spread like normal mother
another which spread like normal mother
another which spread like normal mother you know among computers and on people
you know among computers and on people
you know among computers and on people and when it hit the right target but the
and when it hit the right target but the
and when it hit the right target but the right place the right computer which was
right place the right computer which was
right place the right computer which was somewhere in Iran in nuclear enrichment
somewhere in Iran in nuclear enrichment
somewhere in Iran in nuclear enrichment facilities it activated a payload it
facilities it activated a payload it
facilities it activated a payload it basically infected the industrial
basically infected the industrial
basically infected the industrial control system of these centrifuges and
control system of these centrifuges and
control system of these centrifuges and and it basically destroyed them so so
and it basically destroyed them so so
and it basically destroyed them so so this is this is pretty wild right if you
this is this is pretty wild right if you
this is this is pretty wild right if you think about it this was stuff which was
think about it this was stuff which was
think about it this was stuff which was only happening in science fiction movies
only happening in science fiction movies
only happening in science fiction movies before that you know independence the
before that you know independence the
before that you know independence the kind of things like infecting a
kind of things like infecting a
kind of things like infecting a spaceship alien spaceship or of stuff
spaceship alien spaceship or of stuff
spaceship alien spaceship or of stuff like this and and all of the sudden this
like this and and all of the sudden this
like this and and all of the sudden this was this was happening this was reality
was this was happening this was reality
was this was happening this was reality so you know there is quite a
so you know there is quite a
so you know there is quite a problem with cybercrime there is a huge
problem with cybercrime there is a huge
problem with cybercrime there is a huge asymmetry between you know normal people
asymmetry between you know normal people
asymmetry between you know normal people like us and the cyber criminals who
like us and the cyber criminals who
like us and the cyber criminals who really understand those technologies
really understand those technologies
really understand those technologies there is some although for good guys who
there is some although for good guys who
there is some although for good guys who understand technologies who are actually
understand technologies who are actually
understand technologies who are actually making countermeasures like like us like
making countermeasures like like us like
making countermeasures like like us like me and and it looks like I wouldn’t say
me and and it looks like I wouldn’t say
me and and it looks like I wouldn’t say we’re losing but a couple of years ago
we’re losing but a couple of years ago
we’re losing but a couple of years ago we saw some interesting study where you
we saw some interesting study where you
we saw some interesting study where you know it showed that in the cybercrime
know it showed that in the cybercrime
know it showed that in the cybercrime economy in the blog economy there was
economy in the blog economy there was
economy in the blog economy there was already more money to be made than in in
already more money to be made than in in
already more money to be made than in in the protection business in the antivirus
the protection business in the antivirus
the protection business in the antivirus business which is quite scary because
business which is quite scary because
business which is quite scary because it’s obviously luring really good brains
it’s obviously luring really good brains
it’s obviously luring really good brains to the to the dark sides which is which
to the to the dark sides which is which
to the to the dark sides which is which is dead we don’t want this so so
is dead we don’t want this so so
is dead we don’t want this so so obviously there is a problem and what’s
obviously there is a problem and what’s
obviously there is a problem and what’s the solution to this problem there is no
the solution to this problem there is no
the solution to this problem there is no easy solution and security is it’s
easy solution and security is it’s
easy solution and security is it’s actually not a problem which which can
actually not a problem which which can
actually not a problem which which can be solved like a problem because
be solved like a problem because
be solved like a problem because security is is really a process it’s
security is is really a process it’s
security is is really a process it’s it’s you need to do the you need to work
it’s you need to do the you need to work
it’s you need to do the you need to work on security all the time for us it’s
on security all the time for us it’s
on security all the time for us it’s like a chess game so you know we see bad
like a chess game so you know we see bad
like a chess game so you know we see bad stuff happening we make some measures
stuff happening we make some measures
stuff happening we make some measures against tomorrow we create detection for
against tomorrow we create detection for
against tomorrow we create detection for the mother and then the bad guys
the mother and then the bad guys
the mother and then the bad guys obviously don’t like it so so they make
obviously don’t like it so so they make
obviously don’t like it so so they make countermeasures and of course we’re
countermeasures and of course we’re
countermeasures and of course we’re trying to anticipate their steps and
trying to anticipate their steps and
trying to anticipate their steps and they’re trying to do the same thing
they’re trying to do the same thing
they’re trying to do the same thing pretty much pretty much like in the game
pretty much pretty much like in the game
pretty much pretty much like in the game of chess and and this is going on
of chess and and this is going on
of chess and and this is going on forever but but there is one thing we
forever but but there is one thing we
forever but but there is one thing we can do and which is a great impact on on
can do and which is a great impact on on
can do and which is a great impact on on this whole problem and that’s a that’s
this whole problem and that’s a that’s
this whole problem and that’s a that’s reducing the the big information
reducing the the big information
reducing the the big information asymmetry I was mentioning and and thus
asymmetry I was mentioning and and thus
asymmetry I was mentioning and and thus ocean is you
ocean is you
ocean is you Asian and we play quite a lot of
Asian and we play quite a lot of
Asian and we play quite a lot of attention to to education and creating
attention to to education and creating
attention to to education and creating awareness when it comes to you know
awareness when it comes to you know
awareness when it comes to you know cybersecurity and technologies we have a
cybersecurity and technologies we have a
cybersecurity and technologies we have a foundation ESET foundation which is
foundation ESET foundation which is
foundation ESET foundation which is supporting a lot of our projects when it
supporting a lot of our projects when it
supporting a lot of our projects when it comes to to creating awareness we even
comes to to creating awareness we even
comes to to creating awareness we even you know support projects which actually
you know support projects which actually
you know support projects which actually aim to teach kids programming and we
aim to teach kids programming and we
aim to teach kids programming and we don’t really want to be you know we
don’t really want to be you know we
don’t really want to be you know we don’t really want to make everybody a
don’t really want to make everybody a
don’t really want to make everybody a software developer that will be kind of
software developer that will be kind of
software developer that will be kind of futile and pretty much useless but it’s
futile and pretty much useless but it’s
futile and pretty much useless but it’s uh I think it’s really good to how to
uh I think it’s really good to how to
uh I think it’s really good to how to understand the world that we are living
understand the world that we are living
understand the world that we are living in and and these days the world is
in and and these days the world is
in and and these days the world is becoming more and more software you know
becoming more and more software you know
becoming more and more software you know companies which were harder companies
companies which were harder companies
companies which were harder companies ten years ago these days they’re saying
ten years ago these days they’re saying
ten years ago these days they’re saying they’re software companies and I think
they’re software companies and I think
they’re software companies and I think you know if everybody understands the
you know if everybody understands the
you know if everybody understands the basic concepts of programming and
basic concepts of programming and
basic concepts of programming and software development it can actually
software development it can actually
software development it can actually raise awareness and it can it can you
raise awareness and it can it can you
raise awareness and it can it can you know make the gap make this information
know make the gap make this information
know make the gap make this information asymmetry much more thank you very much
asymmetry much more thank you very much
asymmetry much more thank you very much [Applause]
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