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How Bionic Rats and Humans are Partnering to Find Landmines | Andrew McGregor | TEDxCulverCity


once upon a time I lived in Africa

once upon a time I lived in Africa working as a journalist and teaching

working as a journalist and teaching

working as a journalist and teaching journalism to people living in conflict

journalism to people living in conflict

journalism to people living in conflict zones and very difficult parts I was

zones and very difficult parts I was

zones and very difficult parts I was doing this so that my students could

doing this so that my students could

doing this so that my students could tell the world what was going on in

tell the world what was going on in

tell the world what was going on in cases of atrocity and also they could

cases of atrocity and also they could

cases of atrocity and also they could have a career to support their families

have a career to support their families

have a career to support their families through the media training during this

through the media training during this

through the media training during this time I found myself from the

time I found myself from the

time I found myself from the northeastern part of dr congo during one

northeastern part of dr congo during one

northeastern part of dr congo during one of the periods of escalation and

of the periods of escalation and

of the periods of escalation and violence it was a hope and expectation

violence it was a hope and expectation

violence it was a hope and expectation of mine that by bringing these photos to

of mine that by bringing these photos to

of mine that by bringing these photos to the world they would reach people who

the world they would reach people who

the world they would reach people who could potentially stop the killing or

could potentially stop the killing or

could potentially stop the killing or help stop the killing and bring in an

help stop the killing and bring in an

help stop the killing and bring in an air of peace one of the duties of

air of peace one of the duties of

air of peace one of the duties of journalism is to report the facts and

journalism is to report the facts and

journalism is to report the facts and then the public will do with the

then the public will do with the

then the public will do with the information what it will however kind of

information what it will however kind of

information what it will however kind of a frustration i had was that the tropes

a frustration i had was that the tropes

a frustration i had was that the tropes of journalistic storytelling could never

of journalistic storytelling could never

of journalistic storytelling could never really convey with the terror of the

really convey with the terror of the

really convey with the terror of the place what it feels like when people are

place what it feels like when people are

place what it feels like when people are just constantly under the stress of

just constantly under the stress of

just constantly under the stress of having their lives almost undid so one

having their lives almost undid so one

having their lives almost undid so one of the horrible things about war is

of the horrible things about war is

of the horrible things about war is landmines this is a landmine actually no

landmines this is a landmine actually no

landmines this is a landmine actually no it’s a replica this is called an

it’s a replica this is called an

it’s a replica this is called an anti-personnel mine and the military

anti-personnel mine and the military

anti-personnel mine and the military logic of this is that when it explodes

logic of this is that when it explodes

logic of this is that when it explodes it mames rather than kills the soldier

it mames rather than kills the soldier

it mames rather than kills the soldier and then at least two of the soldiers

and then at least two of the soldiers

and then at least two of the soldiers comrades will have to drag that person

comrades will have to drag that person

comrades will have to drag that person off to receive medical attention and

off to receive medical attention and

off to receive medical attention and then this creates kind of further terror

then this creates kind of further terror

then this creates kind of further terror while costing military resources so as

while costing military resources so as

while costing military resources so as you can see these are prevalent all

you can see these are prevalent all

you can see these are prevalent all around the world and long after the

around the world and long after the

around the world and long after the conflict ends the mines remain active

conflict ends the mines remain active

conflict ends the mines remain active there’s no way to turn them off so this

there’s no way to turn them off so this

there’s no way to turn them off so this means that women children and men who

means that women children and men who

means that women children and men who are largely farmers but going about

are largely farmers but going about

are largely farmers but going about their lives when they step on one they

their lives when they step on one they

their lives when they step on one they lose at least a limb and possibly their

lose at least a limb and possibly their

lose at least a limb and possibly their lives so I kind of mentioned the

lives so I kind of mentioned the

lives so I kind of mentioned the frustration that the journalistic tropes

frustration that the journalistic tropes

frustration that the journalistic tropes don’t convey what what things feel like

don’t convey what what things feel like

don’t convey what what things feel like to be in these areas so after I got out

to be in these areas so after I got out

to be in these areas so after I got out of Congo I started to write short films

of Congo I started to write short films

of Congo I started to write short films to kind of explore what it was like to

to kind of explore what it was like to

to kind of explore what it was like to be there because the duty of a filmmaker

be there because the duty of a filmmaker

be there because the duty of a filmmaker is to bring the audience into the world

is to bring the audience into the world

is to bring the audience into the world characters and so I thought if audience

characters and so I thought if audience

characters and so I thought if audience members could come into the world then

members could come into the world then

members could come into the world then they would have the better sense of

they would have the better sense of

they would have the better sense of empathy towards what it’s like to

empathy towards what it’s like to

empathy towards what it’s like to actually be in these places and perhaps

actually be in these places and perhaps

actually be in these places and perhaps we could do what I came to call closing

we could do what I came to call closing

we could do what I came to call closing the empathy gap so an idea I had was to

the empathy gap so an idea I had was to

the empathy gap so an idea I had was to use science fiction as a genre to

use science fiction as a genre to

use science fiction as a genre to hopefully inspire people to work on new

hopefully inspire people to work on new

hopefully inspire people to work on new solutions to the landmine problem in

solutions to the landmine problem in

solutions to the landmine problem in some way that the Star Trek inspired a

some way that the Star Trek inspired a

some way that the Star Trek inspired a whole generation of innovators through

whole generation of innovators through

whole generation of innovators through that through its use of technology and

that through its use of technology and

that through its use of technology and so one of these amazing things in the

so one of these amazing things in the

so one of these amazing things in the world is an organization called a Poe

world is an organization called a Poe

world is an organization called a Poe poem and a popo is founded by a Belgian

poem and a popo is founded by a Belgian

poem and a popo is founded by a Belgian Buddhist product designer who grew up

Buddhist product designer who grew up

Buddhist product designer who grew up loving rats and at a certain point in

loving rats and at a certain point in

loving rats and at a certain point in his life he started to train rats to

his life he started to train rats to

his life he started to train rats to find landmines and so for 20-some odd

find landmines and so for 20-some odd

find landmines and so for 20-some odd years this organization has been

years this organization has been

years this organization has been clearing minefields with the use of the

clearing minefields with the use of the

clearing minefields with the use of the giant African pouch trap

giant African pouch trap

giant African pouch trap this is all true it’s amazing so I I was

this is all true it’s amazing so I I was

this is all true it’s amazing so I I was like oh that would be that would be kind

like oh that would be that would be kind

like oh that would be that would be kind of a fascinating short film about a rat

of a fascinating short film about a rat

of a fascinating short film about a rat and then I was kind of looking for a

and then I was kind of looking for a

and then I was kind of looking for a plot though right it’s got to be a movie

plot though right it’s got to be a movie

plot though right it’s got to be a movie and around this time I was asked to be a

and around this time I was asked to be a

and around this time I was asked to be a judge on this thing called the robot

judge on this thing called the robot

judge on this thing called the robot Film Festival and the Rowett Film

Film Festival and the Rowett Film

Film Festival and the Rowett Film Festival is a kind of fun quirky event

Festival is a kind of fun quirky event

Festival is a kind of fun quirky event but it’s basically trying to showcase

but it’s basically trying to showcase

but it’s basically trying to showcase benevolent human machine relationships

benevolent human machine relationships

benevolent human machine relationships through the use of cinema so like one of

through the use of cinema so like one of

through the use of cinema so like one of the slogans of the film festivals like

the slogans of the film festivals like

the slogans of the film festivals like what if Skynet loved us right it’d be

what if Skynet loved us right it’d be

what if Skynet loved us right it’d be entirely different Terminator series but

entirely different Terminator series but

entirely different Terminator series but then when I was a judge in this I was

then when I was a judge in this I was

then when I was a judge in this I was like wait a minute

like wait a minute

like wait a minute if robots and humans are working

if robots and humans are working

if robots and humans are working together what if rats and robots could

together what if rats and robots could

together what if rats and robots could work together so with that voila

work together so with that voila

work together so with that voila I had my plot a love story between a rat

I had my plot a love story between a rat

I had my plot a love story between a rat and a robot who guide humans out of a

and a robot who guide humans out of a

and a robot who guide humans out of a landmine field after they’ve gone insane

landmine field after they’ve gone insane

landmine field after they’ve gone insane it’s perfect perfect short film thing

it’s perfect perfect short film thing

it’s perfect perfect short film thing right so I was making the film and it

right so I was making the film and it

right so I was making the film and it was getting this great community and

was getting this great community and

was getting this great community and people started to kind of become

people started to kind of become

people started to kind of become involved and landmine removal work and

involved and landmine removal work and

involved and landmine removal work and kind of educating themselves and then

kind of educating themselves and then

kind of educating themselves and then while we had this kind of little barely

while we had this kind of little barely

while we had this kind of little barely functioning robot type thing on set I

functioning robot type thing on set I

functioning robot type thing on set I got kind of interested in the metaphor

got kind of interested in the metaphor

got kind of interested in the metaphor if like what if robots are kind of like

if like what if robots are kind of like

if like what if robots are kind of like puppets that you throw electronics on

puppets that you throw electronics on

puppets that you throw electronics on right like what if they have that kind

right like what if they have that kind

right like what if they have that kind of magic so then just kind of as a you

of magic so then just kind of as a you

of magic so then just kind of as a you know side quest as I do I started to try

know side quest as I do I started to try

know side quest as I do I started to try and make the robot from my movie in the

and make the robot from my movie in the

and make the robot from my movie in the real world and the process of doing this

real world and the process of doing this

real world and the process of doing this I came across this fantastic thing which

I came across this fantastic thing which

I came across this fantastic thing which many of you were probably

many of you were probably

many of you were probably but if you’re not called the maker

but if you’re not called the maker

but if you’re not called the maker community and basically makers are

community and basically makers are

community and basically makers are people who are interested in technology

people who are interested in technology

people who are interested in technology who strongly believe in open source

who strongly believe in open source

who strongly believe in open source collaboration and also like showcasing

collaboration and also like showcasing

collaboration and also like showcasing their project so it’s all about sharing

their project so it’s all about sharing

their project so it’s all about sharing high-five you go go team this is also

high-five you go go team this is also

high-five you go go team this is also seminal and a lot of the steam education

seminal and a lot of the steam education

seminal and a lot of the steam education initiatives you see coming around

initiatives you see coming around

initiatives you see coming around America these days so anyway there I was

America these days so anyway there I was

America these days so anyway there I was I was in LA and trying to make a robot

I was in LA and trying to make a robot

I was in LA and trying to make a robot so I found some makers and this is kind

so I found some makers and this is kind

so I found some makers and this is kind of kind of someone what the community

of kind of someone what the community

of kind of someone what the community looks like and what it does so I was

looks like and what it does so I was

looks like and what it does so I was actually kind of kidding okay at this

actually kind of kidding okay at this

actually kind of kidding okay at this and another cool thing that’s actually

and another cool thing that’s actually

and another cool thing that’s actually enabling the maker movement is that a

enabling the maker movement is that a

enabling the maker movement is that a lot of the technology that previously in

lot of the technology that previously in

lot of the technology that previously in like the very very recent history would

like the very very recent history would

like the very very recent history would have required advanced degrees in order

have required advanced degrees in order

have required advanced degrees in order to utilize is now really available so

to utilize is now really available so

to utilize is now really available so someone like me who’s you know I want to

someone like me who’s you know I want to

someone like me who’s you know I want to make a robot um can actually make a

make a robot um can actually make a

make a robot um can actually make a robot so I was I was on cloud nine you

robot so I was I was on cloud nine you

robot so I was I was on cloud nine you know you just you feel like an on evil

know you just you feel like an on evil

know you just you feel like an on evil dr. Frankenstein right like ah it lives

dr. Frankenstein right like ah it lives

dr. Frankenstein right like ah it lives so right things are going great I got

so right things are going great I got

so right things are going great I got the robot and then I start mixing the

the robot and then I start mixing the

the robot and then I start mixing the robot with the rats because I’m like

robot with the rats because I’m like

robot with the rats because I’m like well worked in the movie why can’t it

well worked in the movie why can’t it

well worked in the movie why can’t it work in reality so um I started kind of

work in reality so um I started kind of

work in reality so um I started kind of playing with rats and they’re just

playing with rats and they’re just

playing with rats and they’re just amazing creatures like check them out

amazing creatures like check them out

amazing creatures like check them out and when I started but kind of what

and when I started but kind of what

and when I started but kind of what happened here is when I started to mix

happened here is when I started to mix

happened here is when I started to mix the rat and the robots together while

the rat and the robots together while

the rat and the robots together while this rat would be very loving and you

this rat would be very loving and you

this rat would be very loving and you can put it on your shoulder and it eats

can put it on your shoulder and it eats

can put it on your shoulder and it eats food when I put the food in the robot

food when I put the food in the robot

food when I put the food in the robot the rat would just Jack the row but it

the rat would just Jack the row but it

the rat would just Jack the row but it was the first I think rat on robot

was the first I think rat on robot

was the first I think rat on robot mugging and witnessed by a human and I

mugging and witnessed by a human and I

mugging and witnessed by a human and I was like okay you know I learned a lot

was like okay you know I learned a lot

was like okay you know I learned a lot now just it’s not there so I was kind of

now just it’s not there so I was kind of

now just it’s not there so I was kind of like moving away from my dream of the

like moving away from my dream of the

like moving away from my dream of the rat and the robot working together when

rat and the robot working together when

rat and the robot working together when I got one of those like chance emails

I got one of those like chance emails

I got one of those like chance emails like hey McGregor you should go check

like hey McGregor you should go check

like hey McGregor you should go check this guy out to see a lecture by a robot

this guy out to see a lecture by a robot

this guy out to see a lecture by a robot assistant artist named Ian Ingram Ian

assistant artist named Ian Ingram Ian

assistant artist named Ian Ingram Ian Ingram makes robots that communicate and

Ingram makes robots that communicate and

Ingram makes robots that communicate and commune with animals in nature what you

commune with animals in nature what you

commune with animals in nature what you have featured here is his work called a

have featured here is his work called a

have featured here is his work called a lizard legs and the robot is on the left

lizard legs and the robot is on the left

lizard legs and the robot is on the left and so basically there’s a certain

and so basically there’s a certain

and so basically there’s a certain species of lizard that does push-ups to

species of lizard that does push-ups to

species of lizard that does push-ups to declare dominance on the hot spots of

declare dominance on the hot spots of

declare dominance on the hot spots of the rock and that robot emulates the

the rock and that robot emulates the

the rock and that robot emulates the that the lizard perceives as I’m the

that the lizard perceives as I’m the

that the lizard perceives as I’m the dominant man on the rocker she man or

dominant man on the rocker she man or

dominant man on the rocker she man or she she whatever the lizard gender sorry

she she whatever the lizard gender sorry

she she whatever the lizard gender sorry and then the lizard will run away and so

and then the lizard will run away and so

and then the lizard will run away and so it does this all autonomous me so I want

it does this all autonomous me so I want

it does this all autonomous me so I want to go see his lecture I got there at the

to go see his lecture I got there at the

to go see his lecture I got there at the end I was like really excited to find

end I was like really excited to find

end I was like really excited to find someone else who kind of be interested

someone else who kind of be interested

someone else who kind of be interested in this stuff and I got there I was like

in this stuff and I got there I was like

in this stuff and I got there I was like blathering and he looked at me kind of

blathering and he looked at me kind of

blathering and he looked at me kind of bemused and he hands me GPS coordinates

bemused and he hands me GPS coordinates

bemused and he hands me GPS coordinates he’s like tomorrow I’ll be with my robot

he’s like tomorrow I’ll be with my robot

he’s like tomorrow I’ll be with my robot lizard come to these GPS coordinates so

lizard come to these GPS coordinates so

lizard come to these GPS coordinates so now I’m not seeing to always follow GPS

now I’m not seeing to always follow GPS

now I’m not seeing to always follow GPS coordinates to a man with a robotic

coordinates to a man with a robotic

coordinates to a man with a robotic lizard and some locale unknown but it’s

lizard and some locale unknown but it’s

lizard and some locale unknown but it’s a world view I’d strongly endorse so I

a world view I’d strongly endorse so I

a world view I’d strongly endorse so I met him saw the lizard and it was just

met him saw the lizard and it was just

met him saw the lizard and it was just like completely enthralled and then I

like completely enthralled and then I

like completely enthralled and then I went into what I call the kung-fu

went into what I call the kung-fu

went into what I call the kung-fu modality of life and that’s basically

modality of life and that’s basically

modality of life and that’s basically when you find the master I

when you find the master I

when you find the master I you just go and offer to be the

you just go and offer to be the

you just go and offer to be the assistant in his dojo until he teaches

assistant in his dojo until he teaches

assistant in his dojo until he teaches you the sacred things

you the sacred things

you the sacred things so I started bugging me and let me be

so I started bugging me and let me be

so I started bugging me and let me be his assistant and eventually he

his assistant and eventually he

his assistant and eventually he graciously allowed me and I started

graciously allowed me and I started

graciously allowed me and I started working on him repairing this robot this

working on him repairing this robot this

working on him repairing this robot this is a robotic squirrel that scans the

is a robotic squirrel that scans the

is a robotic squirrel that scans the environment for humans or dogs and when

environment for humans or dogs and when

environment for humans or dogs and when it finds one it flicks that squirrel

it finds one it flicks that squirrel

it finds one it flicks that squirrel tail and in the squirrel kind of lexicon

tail and in the squirrel kind of lexicon

tail and in the squirrel kind of lexicon if you want to call it that or language

if you want to call it that or language

if you want to call it that or language that means head to the trees there’s

that means head to the trees there’s

that means head to the trees there’s danger so once I started kind of work on

danger so once I started kind of work on

danger so once I started kind of work on the squirrel is like whoa man and I was

the squirrel is like whoa man and I was

the squirrel is like whoa man and I was also now in conversation with one of the

also now in conversation with one of the

also now in conversation with one of the world’s foremost experts on you know

world’s foremost experts on you know

world’s foremost experts on you know robot animal communication and the more

robot animal communication and the more

robot animal communication and the more I talk to him the more he just made it

I talk to him the more he just made it

I talk to him the more he just made it really probably clear that my dream of

really probably clear that my dream of

really probably clear that my dream of rats and robots working together wasn’t

rats and robots working together wasn’t

rats and robots working together wasn’t gonna be but I was I was with him so

gonna be but I was I was with him so

gonna be but I was I was with him so it’s like there must be something some

it’s like there must be something some

it’s like there must be something some way to kind of make this all happen and

way to kind of make this all happen and

way to kind of make this all happen and so Ian got me into this philosopher

so Ian got me into this philosopher

so Ian got me into this philosopher biologist named jakob von hooks call and

biologist named jakob von hooks call and

biologist named jakob von hooks call and jakob von hooks call is one of the the

jakob von hooks call is one of the the

jakob von hooks call is one of the the founders of a field called biosemiotics

founders of a field called biosemiotics

founders of a field called biosemiotics he’s an adventure of a concept called

he’s an adventure of a concept called

he’s an adventure of a concept called the ohm belt basically what the belt is

the ohm belt basically what the belt is

the ohm belt basically what the belt is is a description that organisms and

is a description that organisms and

is a description that organisms and different species have relationships to

different species have relationships to

different species have relationships to each other based on what they can

each other based on what they can

each other based on what they can perceive and so in terms of thinking

perceive and so in terms of thinking

perceive and so in terms of thinking like how can one communicate with a rat

like how can one communicate with a rat

like how can one communicate with a rat the oome belt in his work would be

the oome belt in his work would be

the oome belt in his work would be pretty seminal

pretty seminal

pretty seminal one of his famous studies is about a

one of his famous studies is about a

one of his famous studies is about a animal that’s probably not near and dear

animal that’s probably not near and dear

animal that’s probably not near and dear to our hearts but it’s eating you or

to our hearts but it’s eating you or

to our hearts but it’s eating you or someone you love in your life and it’s

someone you love in your life and it’s

someone you love in your life and it’s blind deaf and can barely move and I

blind deaf and can barely move and I

blind deaf and can barely move and I find that amazing I’m obviously talking

find that amazing I’m obviously talking

find that amazing I’m obviously talking about the tick so look it’s cool did a

about the tick so look it’s cool did a

about the tick so look it’s cool did a study on the ticks and basically the

study on the ticks and basically the

study on the ticks and basically the tick has very few ways to perceive the

tick has very few ways to perceive the

tick has very few ways to perceive the world so you think of like all the vast

world so you think of like all the vast

world so you think of like all the vast you know spectrums of sound and UV and

you know spectrums of sound and UV and

you know spectrums of sound and UV and ultraviolet that did that how is it tick

ultraviolet that did that how is it tick

ultraviolet that did that how is it tick able to get on to you it doesn’t have

able to get on to you it doesn’t have

able to get on to you it doesn’t have eyes so basically how the tick works is

eyes so basically how the tick works is

eyes so basically how the tick works is it has general light sensitivity in its

it has general light sensitivity in its

it has general light sensitivity in its skin and that lets it climb to the top

skin and that lets it climb to the top

skin and that lets it climb to the top the top of grass and then once it’s on

the top of grass and then once it’s on

the top of grass and then once it’s on the top of grass it just waits for

the top of grass it just waits for

the top of grass it just waits for something to come by and how it knows

something to come by and how it knows

something to come by and how it knows something that waits for a mammal to

something that waits for a mammal to

something that waits for a mammal to come by because all mammals emit

come by because all mammals emit

come by because all mammals emit something called butyrate

something called butyrate

something called butyrate acid from their skin and so once the

acid from their skin and so once the

acid from their skin and so once the tick detects beti rock acid then the

tick detects beti rock acid then the

tick detects beti rock acid then the tick immediately drops and if the tick

tick immediately drops and if the tick

tick immediately drops and if the tick drops him since his Heat all mammal

drops him since his Heat all mammal

drops him since his Heat all mammal blood runs at 98.6 degrees the tick will

blood runs at 98.6 degrees the tick will

blood runs at 98.6 degrees the tick will then climb up find a spot with not too

then climb up find a spot with not too

then climb up find a spot with not too much hair suck blood have a meal and

much hair suck blood have a meal and

much hair suck blood have a meal and then it drops off reproduces and dies

then it drops off reproduces and dies

then it drops off reproduces and dies that’s it’s got that lifestyle going so

that’s it’s got that lifestyle going so

that’s it’s got that lifestyle going so anyway so I was around so but this kind

anyway so I was around so but this kind

anyway so I was around so but this kind of looks like opened up my world right

of looks like opened up my world right

of looks like opened up my world right like so can you can think of like other

like so can you can think of like other

like so can you can think of like other ways that an animal perceptions can be

ways that an animal perceptions can be

ways that an animal perceptions can be really readily integrated into

really readily integrated into

really readily integrated into electronics projects you have Hawks they

electronics projects you have Hawks they

electronics projects you have Hawks they have kind of a telephoto lens

have kind of a telephoto lens

have kind of a telephoto lens Viper’s are able to hunt in complete

Viper’s are able to hunt in complete

Viper’s are able to hunt in complete darkness using infrared of course

darkness using infrared of course

darkness using infrared of course there’s kind of the classic example of

there’s kind of the classic example of

there’s kind of the classic example of the bat but all these sensors are really

the bat but all these sensors are really

the bat but all these sensors are really affordable and they’re really available

affordable and they’re really available

affordable and they’re really available and like particularly the way the maker

and like particularly the way the maker

and like particularly the way the maker community has worked with them it was

community has worked with them it was

community has worked with them it was like there’s a possibility here alright

like there’s a possibility here alright

like there’s a possibility here alright so we had our we had our philosophy and

so we had our we had our philosophy and

so we had our we had our philosophy and then but how we’re going to connect the

then but how we’re going to connect the

then but how we’re going to connect the belt of a human with the belt of a rat

belt of a human with the belt of a rat

belt of a human with the belt of a rat so as you probably noticed as a human

so as you probably noticed as a human

so as you probably noticed as a human you’re a visual creature human zoom belt

you’re a visual creature human zoom belt

you’re a visual creature human zoom belt is mostly mostly visual however rats are

is mostly mostly visual however rats are

is mostly mostly visual however rats are mostly olfactory it’s through scents so

mostly olfactory it’s through scents so

mostly olfactory it’s through scents so for example if a rat comes into a rat

for example if a rat comes into a rat

for example if a rat comes into a rat convention the rat knows like who’s

convention the rat knows like who’s

convention the rat knows like who’s having sex with who who’s eaten last

having sex with who who’s eaten last

having sex with who who’s eaten last who’s hungry

who’s hungry

who’s hungry who needs food who wants to have a

who needs food who wants to have a

who needs food who wants to have a family you know who doesn’t want to all

family you know who doesn’t want to all

family you know who doesn’t want to all this stuff is just immediately apparent

this stuff is just immediately apparent

this stuff is just immediately apparent to the rat and you can kind of wonder

to the rat and you can kind of wonder

to the rat and you can kind of wonder what the sense of time would even be

what the sense of time would even be

what the sense of time would even be like that right when social

like that right when social

like that right when social relationships are all known in the

relationships are all known in the

relationships are all known in the presidents it’s it’s a fun thought

presidents it’s it’s a fun thought

presidents it’s it’s a fun thought experiment but how do you connect these

experiment but how do you connect these

experiment but how do you connect these two creatures and so the brilliant

two creatures and so the brilliant

two creatures and so the brilliant insight Ian came up with was to put an

insight Ian came up with was to put an

insight Ian came up with was to put an accelerometer which is something that

accelerometer which is something that

accelerometer which is something that detects motion it’s in all smart phones

detects motion it’s in all smart phones

detects motion it’s in all smart phones on the rats in an adorable waistcoat

on the rats in an adorable waistcoat

on the rats in an adorable waistcoat well the adorable waistcoat was my idea

well the adorable waistcoat was my idea

well the adorable waistcoat was my idea but then when the rat which one more bit

but then when the rat which one more bit

but then when the rat which one more bit of information so the popo organization

of information so the popo organization

of information so the popo organization that trains the rest to find landmines

that trains the rest to find landmines

that trains the rest to find landmines trains them to scratch and on the ground

trains them to scratch and on the ground

trains them to scratch and on the ground when they find a landmine so in doing

when they find a landmine so in doing

when they find a landmine so in doing this it’s a part of the natural behavior

this it’s a part of the natural behavior

this it’s a part of the natural behavior of the rat that a human can also

of the rat that a human can also

of the rat that a human can also visually identify with it zoom belt so

visually identify with it zoom belt so

visually identify with it zoom belt so in order to kind of facilitate the wrath

in order to kind of facilitate the wrath

in order to kind of facilitate the wrath to human belt communication we started

to human belt communication we started

to human belt communication we started making an accelerometer waistcoat

making an accelerometer waistcoat

making an accelerometer waistcoat devices and putting on the rat and then

devices and putting on the rat and then

devices and putting on the rat and then that would send out X Y Z data that is

that would send out X Y Z data that is

that would send out X Y Z data that is then leading me to my next little phase

then leading me to my next little phase

then leading me to my next little phase of life which is as a rat bionics

of life which is as a rat bionics

of life which is as a rat bionics researcher so now we had our idea we had

researcher so now we had our idea we had

researcher so now we had our idea we had kind of our methodology we had some

kind of our methodology we had some

kind of our methodology we had some technology and we had been in touch with

technology and we had been in touch with

technology and we had been in touch with the opal organization about potential

the opal organization about potential

the opal organization about potential ways that automating the the perception

ways that automating the the perception

ways that automating the the perception of the rat indication on a landmine

of the rat indication on a landmine

of the rat indication on a landmine could be of service they’re fantastic

could be of service they’re fantastic

could be of service they’re fantastic landmine system and so he and I did the

landmine system and so he and I did the

landmine system and so he and I did the next logical thing and flew to Tanzania

next logical thing and flew to Tanzania

next logical thing and flew to Tanzania to test it all out this is the a Popo

to test it all out this is the a Popo

to test it all out this is the a Popo landmine training facility in beautiful

landmine training facility in beautiful

landmine training facility in beautiful Morra Goyo Tanzania you can kind of see

Morra Goyo Tanzania you can kind of see

Morra Goyo Tanzania you can kind of see those little markers there but this is

those little markers there but this is

those little markers there but this is just a KERS and acres full of

just a KERS and acres full of

just a KERS and acres full of deactivated landmines where they put the

deactivated landmines where they put the

deactivated landmines where they put the ratchet this kind of rigorous behavioral

ratchet this kind of rigorous behavioral

ratchet this kind of rigorous behavioral training kind of from birth into when

training kind of from birth into when

training kind of from birth into when they are capable of going to minefields

they are capable of going to minefields

they are capable of going to minefields and shipped off to the cambodian places

and shipped off to the cambodian places

and shipped off to the cambodian places like that so once you and I were there

like that so once you and I were there

like that so once you and I were there we started it that’s in we started to

we started it that’s in we started to

we started it that’s in we started to like test this all out and then give me

like test this all out and then give me

like test this all out and then give me and that’s the waistcoat in the rat and

and that’s the waistcoat in the rat and

and that’s the waistcoat in the rat and then so this is what happened is we were

then so this is what happened is we were

then so this is what happened is we were kind of testing our theories and things

kind of testing our theories and things

kind of testing our theories and things like this and this is what the data

like this and this is what the data

like this and this is what the data looks like

looks like

looks like when it comes out of the rats weight

when it comes out of the rats weight

when it comes out of the rats weight waistcoat and so at this point it became

waistcoat and so at this point it became

waistcoat and so at this point it became quite obvious that like no human can

quite obvious that like no human can

quite obvious that like no human can really draw out what that is remember

really draw out what that is remember

really draw out what that is remember the tick I described out had the three

the tick I described out had the three

the tick I described out had the three factors so we now need to use a machine

factors so we now need to use a machine

factors so we now need to use a machine learning algorithm that kind of has the

learning algorithm that kind of has the

learning algorithm that kind of has the brilliance of the tick that can find

brilliance of the tick that can find

brilliance of the tick that can find three factors in the XYZ data here that

three factors in the XYZ data here that

three factors in the XYZ data here that indicates that the rat has found a land

indicates that the rat has found a land

indicates that the rat has found a land mine which brings us to our next

mine which brings us to our next

mine which brings us to our next challenge of actually yeah using the

challenge of actually yeah using the

challenge of actually yeah using the machine learning algorithms to do all

machine learning algorithms to do all

machine learning algorithms to do all this so I want to kind of take it

this so I want to kind of take it

this so I want to kind of take it briefly back to just note that a simple

briefly back to just note that a simple

briefly back to just note that a simple screenplay has now led to the sensory

screenplay has now led to the sensory

screenplay has now led to the sensory experience of a trained rat being

experience of a trained rat being

experience of a trained rat being translated by wearable technology that

translated by wearable technology that

translated by wearable technology that is then interpreted by machine learning

is then interpreted by machine learning

is then interpreted by machine learning algorithms all to work towards reading

algorithms all to work towards reading

algorithms all to work towards reading the world of landmines and the children

the world of landmines and the children

the world of landmines and the children don’t have to grow up in fear of the

don’t have to grow up in fear of the

don’t have to grow up in fear of the ground beneath their feet and that’s

ground beneath their feet and that’s

ground beneath their feet and that’s where we’re at now and I predict a bold

where we’re at now and I predict a bold

where we’re at now and I predict a bold and wonderful future for you know Bionic

and wonderful future for you know Bionic

and wonderful future for you know Bionic rat communication technology and I want

rat communication technology and I want

rat communication technology and I want to bring this back one further step to

to bring this back one further step to

to bring this back one further step to remind you all that this started with a

remind you all that this started with a

remind you all that this started with a robot and a rat and if there’s something

robot and a rat and if there’s something

robot and a rat and if there’s something that you can take from my story I want

that you can take from my story I want

that you can take from my story I want you to explore the barriers within you

you to explore the barriers within you

you to explore the barriers within you to serve as the foundation to forge the

to serve as the foundation to forge the

to serve as the foundation to forge the bridge to other communities in the world

bridge to other communities in the world

bridge to other communities in the world because you never know where those

because you never know where those

because you never know where those bridges are coming from or where they’re

bridges are coming from or where they’re

bridges are coming from or where they’re going or how far they’ll take you thank

going or how far they’ll take you thank

going or how far they’ll take you thank you

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