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what I’d like you to do is imagine what

what I’d like you to do is imagine what it was like when you were very very

it was like when you were very very

it was like when you were very very young not one or two years old but

young not one or two years old but

young not one or two years old but basically nine months before you were

basically nine months before you were

basically nine months before you were born

born

born what happens is you started off as a

what happens is you started off as a

what happens is you started off as a single cell all your genetic material

single cell all your genetic material

single cell all your genetic material came from mum and dad they passed on two

came from mum and dad they passed on two

came from mum and dad they passed on two sets of chromosomes so we have up here a

sets of chromosomes so we have up here a

sets of chromosomes so we have up here a picture of the human karyotypes female

picture of the human karyotypes female

picture of the human karyotypes female on the Left male on the right so the

on the Left male on the right so the

on the Left male on the right so the only difference between these are all

only difference between these are all

only difference between these are all circle stay on the bottom the females

circle stay on the bottom the females

circle stay on the bottom the females have two X chromosomes males have One X

have two X chromosomes males have One X

have two X chromosomes males have One X chromosome and a white chromosome now

chromosome and a white chromosome now

chromosome and a white chromosome now DNA superficial it’s incredibly boring

DNA superficial it’s incredibly boring

DNA superficial it’s incredibly boring it’s just a long molecule with four

it’s just a long molecule with four

it’s just a long molecule with four different letters ACGT

different letters ACGT

different letters ACGT and it’s the order of these ACGT that

and it’s the order of these ACGT that

and it’s the order of these ACGT that carries all our genetic code from a

carries all our genetic code from a

carries all our genetic code from a single cell you’ve obviously grown a

single cell you’ve obviously grown a

single cell you’ve obviously grown a little bit

little bit

little bit you’ve got kidneys liver brain skin all

you’ve got kidneys liver brain skin all

you’ve got kidneys liver brain skin all sorts of different cells they all have

sorts of different cells they all have

sorts of different cells they all have the same genetic makeup different genes

the same genetic makeup different genes

the same genetic makeup different genes are expressed in different tissues some

are expressed in different tissues some

are expressed in different tissues some are switched on some are switched off

are switched on some are switched off

are switched on some are switched off I’ve been fascinated by how genes work

I’ve been fascinated by how genes work

I’ve been fascinated by how genes work because when you can work out how a gene

because when you can work out how a gene

because when you can work out how a gene is working you can start coming up with

is working you can start coming up with

is working you can start coming up with potential therapies to try and treat

potential therapies to try and treat

potential therapies to try and treat them now we have 23,000 different genes

them now we have 23,000 different genes

them now we have 23,000 different genes sounds impressive we have three billion

sounds impressive we have three billion

sounds impressive we have three billion letters ACGT that make up each set of

letters ACGT that make up each set of

letters ACGT that make up each set of chromosomes so that sounds impressive

chromosomes so that sounds impressive

chromosomes so that sounds impressive but let’s put up the context we’re

but let’s put up the context we’re

but let’s put up the context we’re outgunned by the water flea we have

outgunned by the water flea we have

outgunned by the water flea we have 23,000 genes the water flea Daphnia has

23,000 genes the water flea Daphnia has

23,000 genes the water flea Daphnia has 31,000 genes there are plants out there

31,000 genes there are plants out there

31,000 genes there are plants out there that have 50 times the amount of DNA in

that have 50 times the amount of DNA in

that have 50 times the amount of DNA in their cells and we do so obvious it’s

their cells and we do so obvious it’s

their cells and we do so obvious it’s not how much DNA you’ve got or how many

not how much DNA you’ve got or how many

not how much DNA you’ve got or how many genes but how you use them so if we go

genes but how you use them so if we go

genes but how you use them so if we go off to our picture of a little segment

off to our picture of a little segment

off to our picture of a little segment of DNA which carries the genetic

of DNA which carries the genetic

of DNA which carries the genetic information at gene

information at gene

information at gene what happens is when a gene is expressed

what happens is when a gene is expressed

what happens is when a gene is expressed it makes a photocopy and so you get an

it makes a photocopy and so you get an

it makes a photocopy and so you get an RNA copy a message copy that contains

RNA copy a message copy that contains

RNA copy a message copy that contains blocks of coding sequence separated by

blocks of coding sequence separated by

blocks of coding sequence separated by the yellow non-coding sequence and this

the yellow non-coding sequence and this

the yellow non-coding sequence and this is happening for almost all of our

is happening for almost all of our

is happening for almost all of our 23,000 genes that have this particular

23,000 genes that have this particular

23,000 genes that have this particular structure they go through this

structure they go through this

structure they go through this arrangement and for this gene to be

arrangement and for this gene to be

arrangement and for this gene to be expressed and then read you take out the

expressed and then read you take out the

expressed and then read you take out the yellow bits and this is a process called

yellow bits and this is a process called

yellow bits and this is a process called splicing it brings it together so that’s

splicing it brings it together so that’s

splicing it brings it together so that’s a mature gene message every time a cell

a mature gene message every time a cell

a mature gene message every time a cell divides all that genetic material has to

divides all that genetic material has to

divides all that genetic material has to be copied and DNA replication it’s

be copied and DNA replication it’s

be copied and DNA replication it’s pretty good but it’s not perfect

pretty good but it’s not perfect

pretty good but it’s not perfect mistakes happen just look around the

mistakes happen just look around the

mistakes happen just look around the room everyone is different we all have

room everyone is different we all have

room everyone is different we all have the same genes but we have subtle

the same genes but we have subtle

the same genes but we have subtle variations that affect eye color here

variations that affect eye color here

variations that affect eye color here height metabolism and so on and a lot of

height metabolism and so on and a lot of

height metabolism and so on and a lot of the DNA changes won’t make any

the DNA changes won’t make any

the DNA changes won’t make any difference but when they occur in an

difference but when they occur in an

difference but when they occur in an important gene then there can be

important gene then there can be

important gene then there can be problems so in the example here we’ve

problems so in the example here we’ve

problems so in the example here we’ve got a spelling error in the DNA the red

got a spelling error in the DNA the red

got a spelling error in the DNA the red block that carries through to the

block that carries through to the

block that carries through to the messenger RNA and then when that is

messenger RNA and then when that is

messenger RNA and then when that is spliced the message downstream of the

spliced the message downstream of the

spliced the message downstream of the mutation is corrupted so it’s like

mutation is corrupted so it’s like

mutation is corrupted so it’s like reading a book you’ve got a massive book

reading a book you’ve got a massive book

reading a book you’ve got a massive book of instructions you’re halfway through

of instructions you’re halfway through

of instructions you’re halfway through it and it says stop reading the rest the

it and it says stop reading the rest the

it and it says stop reading the rest the message might be there be another letter

message might be there be another letter

message might be there be another letter read beyond that point this is the

read beyond that point this is the

read beyond that point this is the normal perfect human DNA but everyone in

normal perfect human DNA but everyone in

normal perfect human DNA but everyone in this room is carrying one to two lethal

this room is carrying one to two lethal

this room is carrying one to two lethal gene mutations well I mean lethal either

gene mutations well I mean lethal either

gene mutations well I mean lethal either incompatible with life where it’s going

incompatible with life where it’s going

incompatible with life where it’s going to result in a severe disease it’s quite

to result in a severe disease it’s quite

to result in a severe disease it’s quite scary the examples here we’ve got the

scary the examples here we’ve got the

scary the examples here we’ve got the little red lightning bolts showing where

little red lightning bolts showing where

little red lightning bolts showing where particular mutations could occur but

particular mutations could occur but

particular mutations could occur but you’ll see that you have a defective

you’ll see that you have a defective

you’ll see that you have a defective copy in one chromosome but the other

copy in one chromosome but the other

copy in one chromosome but the other parent has given a copy that is working

parent has given a copy that is working

parent has given a copy that is working so this is why you’re here and on the X

so this is why you’re here and on the X

so this is why you’re here and on the X chromosome

chromosome

chromosome women have two copies so they can carry

women have two copies so they can carry

women have two copies so they can carry a defective copy of a gene and there’s a

a defective copy of a gene and there’s a

a defective copy of a gene and there’s a backup copy however if a boy inherits a

backup copy however if a boy inherits a

backup copy however if a boy inherits a defective gene on the X chromosome

defective gene on the X chromosome

defective gene on the X chromosome there’s no backup copy and this leads to

there’s no backup copy and this leads to

there’s no backup copy and this leads to what’s called an x-linked recessive

what’s called an x-linked recessive

what’s called an x-linked recessive disease now the one I’ve been spending

disease now the one I’ve been spending

disease now the one I’ve been spending too much my life on is a condition

too much my life on is a condition

too much my life on is a condition called Duchenne muscular dystrophy now

called Duchenne muscular dystrophy now

called Duchenne muscular dystrophy now this is such a cruel devastating disease

this is such a cruel devastating disease

this is such a cruel devastating disease on so many fronts

on so many fronts

on so many fronts one in three cases is a new mutation

one in three cases is a new mutation

one in three cases is a new mutation that is the gene is very error-prone

that is the gene is very error-prone

that is the gene is very error-prone it’s an accident waiting to happen

it’s an accident waiting to happen

it’s an accident waiting to happen the boys are born they look normal and

the boys are born they look normal and

the boys are born they look normal and that is because the protein that is

that is because the protein that is

that is because the protein that is responsible for this disease normally

responsible for this disease normally

responsible for this disease normally give strength and stability to the

give strength and stability to the

give strength and stability to the muscle fibers in the absence of a

muscle fibers in the absence of a

muscle fibers in the absence of a functional protein the muscles break

functional protein the muscles break

functional protein the muscles break down faster than they should so when the

down faster than they should so when the

down faster than they should so when the boys are young the muscle growth is

boys are young the muscle growth is

boys are young the muscle growth is keeping up with the degeneration and so

keeping up with the degeneration and so

keeping up with the degeneration and so for the first few years they’re not so

for the first few years they’re not so

for the first few years they’re not so bad one of the early symptoms you’ll

bad one of the early symptoms you’ll

bad one of the early symptoms you’ll have enlarged curves and the parents

have enlarged curves and the parents

have enlarged curves and the parents think fantastic we’re gonna have a

think fantastic we’re gonna have a

think fantastic we’re gonna have a sportsman here a real athlete those in

sportsman here a real athlete those in

sportsman here a real athlete those in large cow market of muscle damage the

large cow market of muscle damage the

large cow market of muscle damage the muscles been replaced with fat and

muscles been replaced with fat and

muscles been replaced with fat and connective tissue as the disease

connective tissue as the disease

connective tissue as the disease progresses the boys get weaker and

progresses the boys get weaker and

progresses the boys get weaker and weaker they’re in a wheelchair by the

weaker they’re in a wheelchair by the

weaker they’re in a wheelchair by the age of 12 most commonly in the absence

age of 12 most commonly in the absence

age of 12 most commonly in the absence of good healthcare 90% would die before

of good healthcare 90% would die before

of good healthcare 90% would die before they were 20 from cardiac and

they were 20 from cardiac and

they were 20 from cardiac and respiratory complications to become too

respiratory complications to become too

respiratory complications to become too weak to just breathe speaking of some of

weak to just breathe speaking of some of

weak to just breathe speaking of some of the parents they described this as a

the parents they described this as a

the parents they described this as a death by a thousand cuts the gene was

death by a thousand cuts the gene was

death by a thousand cuts the gene was identified in 1986 and they were

identified in 1986 and they were

identified in 1986 and they were confident claims that gene therapy

confident claims that gene therapy

confident claims that gene therapy replacing the gene could work or stem

replacing the gene could work or stem

replacing the gene could work or stem cell therapy or even muscle cell therapy

cell therapy or even muscle cell therapy

cell therapy or even muscle cell therapy could work the various technical reasons

could work the various technical reasons

could work the various technical reasons these haven’t come through well it’s

these haven’t come through well it’s

these haven’t come through well it’s over 20 years ago I came up this crazy

over 20 years ago I came up this crazy

over 20 years ago I came up this crazy idea instead of trying to replace the

idea instead of trying to replace the

idea instead of trying to replace the gene or add new cells what if we try and

gene or add new cells what if we try and

gene or add new cells what if we try and repair the expression of the damaged

repair the expression of the damaged

repair the expression of the damaged gene and so here we go with a defective

gene and so here we go with a defective

gene and so here we go with a defective gene message and we’ve come up with a

gene message and we’ve come up with a

gene message and we’ve come up with a compound a genetic drug at the chemistry

compound a genetic drug at the chemistry

compound a genetic drug at the chemistry name

name

name fostro downright morpholino all your

fostro downright morpholino all your

fostro downright morpholino all your nucleotide there’ll be a test at the end

nucleotide there’ll be a test at the end

nucleotide there’ll be a test at the end for people to spell this so the way this

for people to spell this so the way this

for people to spell this so the way this works is like a paintbrush

works is like a paintbrush

works is like a paintbrush it actually masks over that affected

it actually masks over that affected

it actually masks over that affected part of the message so when it’s brought

part of the message so when it’s brought

part of the message so when it’s brought together all of a sudden we restore a

together all of a sudden we restore a

together all of a sudden we restore a shorter message so going back to the

shorter message so going back to the

shorter message so going back to the book analogy you’ve come to the fact

book analogy you’ve come to the fact

book analogy you’ve come to the fact that says stop reading you basically

that says stop reading you basically

that says stop reading you basically tear that page out or cover it with

tear that page out or cover it with

tear that page out or cover it with whiteout you then go on to the rest of

whiteout you then go on to the rest of

whiteout you then go on to the rest of the story you might miss a little bit in

the story you might miss a little bit in

the story you might miss a little bit in the middle but you’ve got the ends the

the middle but you’ve got the ends the

the middle but you’ve got the ends the beginning and the end of the store and

beginning and the end of the store and

beginning and the end of the store and that’s the crucial thing just glossing

that’s the crucial thing just glossing

that’s the crucial thing just glossing over 20 years of hard lab work with a

over 20 years of hard lab work with a

over 20 years of hard lab work with a very dedicated team we were designing

very dedicated team we were designing

very dedicated team we were designing different types of paintbrushes looking

different types of paintbrushes looking

different types of paintbrushes looking at different spelling errors and the

at different spelling errors and the

at different spelling errors and the gene to work out where to put these

gene to work out where to put these

gene to work out where to put these compounds we’ve worked on animal models

compounds we’ve worked on animal models

compounds we’ve worked on animal models we worked on human cells and we’ve come

we worked on human cells and we’ve come

we worked on human cells and we’ve come up with a compound there’s been in

up with a compound there’s been in

up with a compound there’s been in clinical trials now this has been in

clinical trials now this has been in

clinical trials now this has been in clinical trials in the states for the

clinical trials in the states for the

clinical trials in the states for the trials running for about five years and

trials running for about five years and

trials running for about five years and this is a young lead for Billy now Billy

this is a young lead for Billy now Billy

this is a young lead for Billy now Billy is at this stage thirteen years old two

is at this stage thirteen years old two

is at this stage thirteen years old two years before this he couldn’t walk up or

years before this he couldn’t walk up or

years before this he couldn’t walk up or down this path and just listen to the

down this path and just listen to the

down this path and just listen to the next bit

he’s walking uphill and whistling so his

he’s walking uphill and whistling so his breathing has stabilized last year he

breathing has stabilized last year he

breathing has stabilized last year he actually finished the Pittsburgh

actually finished the Pittsburgh

actually finished the Pittsburgh children’s marathon he was 14 years old

and it was then complaining that they

and it was then complaining that they weren’t playing Chariots of Fire as he

weren’t playing Chariots of Fire as he

weren’t playing Chariots of Fire as he crossed I mean he is 15 going on 40 but

crossed I mean he is 15 going on 40 but

crossed I mean he is 15 going on 40 but he is an amazing kid

he is an amazing kid

he is an amazing kid now for this drug to go to other boys we

now for this drug to go to other boys we

now for this drug to go to other boys we had to have approval from the Food and

had to have approval from the Food and

had to have approval from the Food and Drug Administration the US FDA and I’m

Drug Administration the US FDA and I’m

Drug Administration the US FDA and I’m delighted relieved ecstatic numb that

delighted relieved ecstatic numb that

delighted relieved ecstatic numb that less than a month ago approval was given

maybe this is just what I’m hoping is

maybe this is just what I’m hoping is going to be the first of a new type of

going to be the first of a new type of

going to be the first of a new type of genetic drug there are 7,000 inherited

genetic drug there are 7,000 inherited

genetic drug there are 7,000 inherited diseases described and there’s the

diseases described and there’s the

diseases described and there’s the potential for this type of therapy to be

potential for this type of therapy to be

potential for this type of therapy to be applied to many many different mutations

applied to many many different mutations

applied to many many different mutations the type of spelling error that affects

the type of spelling error that affects

the type of spelling error that affects splicing is estimated to be between 10

splicing is estimated to be between 10

splicing is estimated to be between 10 and 20 percent across all the mutations

and 20 percent across all the mutations

and 20 percent across all the mutations this type of therapy is applicable to

this type of therapy is applicable to

this type of therapy is applicable to many many different conditions so we’re

many many different conditions so we’re

many many different conditions so we’re working on spinal muscular atrophy we’re

working on spinal muscular atrophy we’re

working on spinal muscular atrophy we’re working on cystic fibrosis pompes

working on cystic fibrosis pompes

working on cystic fibrosis pompes disease Huntington’s disease 30 a

disease Huntington’s disease 30 a

disease Huntington’s disease 30 a scapula humeral muscular dystrophy

scapula humeral muscular dystrophy

scapula humeral muscular dystrophy another test on that name as well and

another test on that name as well and

another test on that name as well and the reason you get into medical research

the reason you get into medical research

the reason you get into medical research is to try and make a difference and I’ll

is to try and make a difference and I’ll

is to try and make a difference and I’ll just show this video of a young lad

just show this video of a young lad

just show this video of a young lad called Aidan Aidan at the start of the

called Aidan Aidan at the start of the

called Aidan Aidan at the start of the trial since the frustration Aidan’s just

trial since the frustration Aidan’s just

trial since the frustration Aidan’s just over 12 years old then four months into

over 12 years old then four months into

over 12 years old then four months into the treatment okay so you can get into a

the treatment okay so you can get into a

the treatment okay so you can get into a car now and the last one I’ll just leave

car now and the last one I’ll just leave

car now and the last one I’ll just leave you with I want to look at the

you with I want to look at the

you with I want to look at the expression on his face and his mother’s

expression on his face and his mother’s

expression on his face and his mother’s voice

this is over 20 years of work isn’t that

this is over 20 years of work isn’t that you’ve done here must be really hard and

you’ve done here must be really hard and

you’ve done here must be really hard and been working with a with a large team

been working with a with a large team

been working with a with a large team I’ve got a fantastic group of people

I’ve got a fantastic group of people

I’ve got a fantastic group of people I’ve got knowledge sue Fletcher Abbi

I’ve got knowledge sue Fletcher Abbi

I’ve got knowledge sue Fletcher Abbi Adams kangri

Adams kangri

Adams kangri Kristen West they’ve got a fantastic

Kristen West they’ve got a fantastic

Kristen West they’ve got a fantastic research team at Murdoch at the moment

research team at Murdoch at the moment

research team at Murdoch at the moment and they were there a privilege to work

and they were there a privilege to work

and they were there a privilege to work with and the colleagues overseas and how

with and the colleagues overseas and how

with and the colleagues overseas and how hard was it to get the FDA approval

hard was it to get the FDA approval

hard was it to get the FDA approval because this is something this is the

because this is something this is the

because this is something this is the first type of it’s drug ever released it

first type of it’s drug ever released it

first type of it’s drug ever released it or ever approved it’s the first

or ever approved it’s the first

or ever approved it’s the first phosphoramidite morpholino

phosphoramidite morpholino

phosphoramidite morpholino oligonucleotide ever approved it’s the

oligonucleotide ever approved it’s the

oligonucleotide ever approved it’s the first destroyin restoring drug that has

first destroyin restoring drug that has

first destroyin restoring drug that has shown an unequivocal increase in the

shown an unequivocal increase in the

shown an unequivocal increase in the missing protein after treatment it’s the

missing protein after treatment it’s the

missing protein after treatment it’s the first by switching compound that I’m

first by switching compound that I’m

first by switching compound that I’m aware of that has been approved that

aware of that has been approved that

aware of that has been approved that this is a specific compound that’s been

this is a specific compound that’s been

this is a specific compound that’s been approved I don’t know ever stated here

approved I don’t know ever stated here

approved I don’t know ever stated here but are we talking about you know a new

but are we talking about you know a new

but are we talking about you know a new type of mitts I would like to think that

type of mitts I would like to think that

type of mitts I would like to think that this has enormous applications in so

this has enormous applications in so

this has enormous applications in so many different conditions from the size

many different conditions from the size

many different conditions from the size of this room we would have I’m guessing

of this room we would have I’m guessing

of this room we would have I’m guessing 50 to 60 people who are carriers of the

50 to 60 people who are carriers of the

50 to 60 people who are carriers of the cystic fibrosis defect chain there are

cystic fibrosis defect chain there are

cystic fibrosis defect chain there are 40 people in here at least who are

40 people in here at least who are

40 people in here at least who are missing the spinal muscular atrophy

missing the spinal muscular atrophy

missing the spinal muscular atrophy janessa min 1 this is going to become

janessa min 1 this is going to become

janessa min 1 this is going to become hopefully a personalized treatment the

hopefully a personalized treatment the

hopefully a personalized treatment the thing is we’ve got a huge genome

thing is we’ve got a huge genome

thing is we’ve got a huge genome spelling errors at different parts

spelling errors at different parts

spelling errors at different parts whatare goal was to come up with the

whatare goal was to come up with the

whatare goal was to come up with the paint brushes that will sort of fix the

paint brushes that will sort of fix the

paint brushes that will sort of fix the different parts so this is hopefully

different parts so this is hopefully

different parts so this is hopefully going to be a new type of personalized

going to be a new type of personalized

going to be a new type of personalized medicine it’s extraordinary

medicine it’s extraordinary

medicine it’s extraordinary congratulations to you and the team

congratulations to you and the team

congratulations to you and the team [Applause]

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