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Cognitive Dissonance: 5 Steps to a More Authentic Reality | Lauren Grimm | TEDxDominicanIntlSchool


hi over the next 18 minutes we’re gonna

hi over the next 18 minutes we’re gonna talk about all of those things we’re

talk about all of those things we’re

talk about all of those things we’re gonna talk about revolution and we’re

gonna talk about revolution and we’re

gonna talk about revolution and we’re gonna talk about gender and sexuality

gonna talk about gender and sexuality

gonna talk about gender and sexuality and identity and for me what this really

and identity and for me what this really

and identity and for me what this really all comes back to is talking about my

all comes back to is talking about my

all comes back to is talking about my nails because they may not look like it

nails because they may not look like it

nails because they may not look like it but my nails are a radical example for

but my nails are a radical example for

but my nails are a radical example for me my political identity and my gender

me my political identity and my gender

me my political identity and my gender [Music]

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[Music] so when you think about yourself and you

so when you think about yourself and you

so when you think about yourself and you think about your world around you you

think about your world around you you

think about your world around you you are given a story a narrative your life

are given a story a narrative your life

are given a story a narrative your life is a book that you’re supposed to open

is a book that you’re supposed to open

is a book that you’re supposed to open and read and find yourself in but it’s a

and read and find yourself in but it’s a

and read and find yourself in but it’s a book and you’re supposed to find

book and you’re supposed to find

book and you’re supposed to find yourself in that and if for some reason

yourself in that and if for some reason

yourself in that and if for some reason you don’t find yourself in those stories

you don’t find yourself in those stories

you don’t find yourself in those stories if you are little boy and grade-two

if you are little boy and grade-two

if you are little boy and grade-two who’s really really excited about the

who’s really really excited about the

who’s really really excited about the idea of fatherhood someday but the only

idea of fatherhood someday but the only

idea of fatherhood someday but the only people who are allowed to talk about

people who are allowed to talk about

people who are allowed to talk about that are at the little girls with their

that are at the little girls with their

that are at the little girls with their baby dolls well you’re gonna have a

baby dolls well you’re gonna have a

baby dolls well you’re gonna have a certain experience or if as we heard

certain experience or if as we heard

certain experience or if as we heard earlier you’re the Asian who can’t

earlier you’re the Asian who can’t

earlier you’re the Asian who can’t really manage to pull all A’s in math

really manage to pull all A’s in math

really manage to pull all A’s in math class or you don’t want to play the

class or you don’t want to play the

class or you don’t want to play the piano well you’re gonna have a slightly

piano well you’re gonna have a slightly

piano well you’re gonna have a slightly different experience or if like me you

different experience or if like me you

different experience or if like me you were the little white girl who instead

were the little white girl who instead

were the little white girl who instead of wanting to play dress-up and with

of wanting to play dress-up and with

of wanting to play dress-up and with Barbies I really liked getting muddy and

Barbies I really liked getting muddy and

Barbies I really liked getting muddy and falling down and getting covered in

falling down and getting covered in

falling down and getting covered in scratches and I had no ability to match

scratches and I had no ability to match

scratches and I had no ability to match my clothes to each other well you’re

my clothes to each other well you’re

my clothes to each other well you’re gonna have a certain experience because

gonna have a certain experience because

gonna have a certain experience because the story that you were given the

the story that you were given the

the story that you were given the narrative that your society tells you

narrative that your society tells you

narrative that your society tells you exist for your life and the life that

exist for your life and the life that

exist for your life and the life that you actually live or possibly the one

you actually live or possibly the one

you actually live or possibly the one that you see your best friend living

that you see your best friend living

that you see your best friend living isn’t gonna match that experience is

isn’t gonna match that experience is

isn’t gonna match that experience is called cognitive dissonance those two

called cognitive dissonance those two

called cognitive dissonance those two stories that just don’t go together

stories that just don’t go together

stories that just don’t go together the little

the little

the little things around you they don’t actually

things around you they don’t actually

things around you they don’t actually match up with who you want to be or what

match up with who you want to be or what

match up with who you want to be or what you see or what you experience or maybe

you see or what you experience or maybe

you see or what you experience or maybe some of the people around you and you

some of the people around you and you

some of the people around you and you have a couple of choices when this

have a couple of choices when this

have a couple of choices when this happens one you can try to force it to

happens one you can try to force it to

happens one you can try to force it to work it’s what George Orwell in his

work it’s what George Orwell in his

work it’s what George Orwell in his famous book 1984 refers to as

famous book 1984 refers to as

famous book 1984 refers to as doublethink the ability to hold two

doublethink the ability to hold two

doublethink the ability to hold two opposing ideas in your mind and somehow

opposing ideas in your mind and somehow

opposing ideas in your mind and somehow force them to work to go back and forth

force them to work to go back and forth

force them to work to go back and forth and for me this was the experience of

and for me this was the experience of

and for me this was the experience of saying well okay yeah but I’m not like

saying well okay yeah but I’m not like

saying well okay yeah but I’m not like other girls and that meant that I could

other girls and that meant that I could

other girls and that meant that I could ignore the narrative which was useful

ignore the narrative which was useful

ignore the narrative which was useful but it didn’t actually change it and the

but it didn’t actually change it and the

but it didn’t actually change it and the narrative was still uncomfortable for me

narrative was still uncomfortable for me

narrative was still uncomfortable for me or alternately you can try to build new

or alternately you can try to build new

or alternately you can try to build new narratives one’s not based on

narratives one’s not based on

narratives one’s not based on stereotypes ones that are more honest

stereotypes ones that are more honest

stereotypes ones that are more honest and ones that hopefully will foster

and ones that hopefully will foster

and ones that hopefully will foster empathy and understanding as we’ve heard

empathy and understanding as we’ve heard

empathy and understanding as we’ve heard already those are very important things

already those are very important things

already those are very important things so what I want to give you is five steps

so what I want to give you is five steps

so what I want to give you is five steps five steps to world change because to me

five steps to world change because to me

five steps to world change because to me changing these narratives will change

changing these narratives will change

changing these narratives will change the world because you’re going to

the world because you’re going to

the world because you’re going to realize that you have other

realize that you have other

realize that you have other opportunities other ways of thinking and

opportunities other ways of thinking and

opportunities other ways of thinking and seeing the world that you maybe don’t

seeing the world that you maybe don’t

seeing the world that you maybe don’t realize now and that children being born

realize now and that children being born

realize now and that children being born now will be able to grow up with new

now will be able to grow up with new

now will be able to grow up with new narratives and that’ll be really

narratives and that’ll be really

narratives and that’ll be really important because when you don’t know an

important because when you don’t know an

important because when you don’t know an idea exists you can’t actually choose

idea exists you can’t actually choose

idea exists you can’t actually choose new paths so the first step in all of

new paths so the first step in all of

new paths so the first step in all of this is to know who you are I know that

this is to know who you are I know that

this is to know who you are I know that seems really easy but it’s actually much

seems really easy but it’s actually much

seems really easy but it’s actually much more complicated than we usually think

more complicated than we usually think

more complicated than we usually think about so as an example this is who I was

about so as an example this is who I was

about so as an example this is who I was in high school this is who I thought of

in high school this is who I thought of

in high school this is who I thought of myself as and these were the pieces of

myself as and these were the pieces of

myself as and these were the pieces of my identity that I crafted and the ones

my identity that I crafted and the ones

my identity that I crafted and the ones that I was proud of and the ones that I

that I was proud of and the ones that I

that I was proud of and the ones that I told people about and I’m sure that

told people about and I’m sure that

told people about and I’m sure that somewhere inside you you have a list

somewhere inside you you have a list

somewhere inside you you have a list like this and I’m

like this and I’m

like this and I’m want you to just take a second and and

want you to just take a second and and

want you to just take a second and and try to think of what things exist on

try to think of what things exist on

try to think of what things exist on that list because that’s the person

that list because that’s the person

that list because that’s the person you’re trying to tell people you are and

you’re trying to tell people you are and

you’re trying to tell people you are and you’re crafted identity is important and

you’re crafted identity is important and

you’re crafted identity is important and once you’ve got a few points and you’ve

once you’ve got a few points and you’ve

once you’ve got a few points and you’ve kind of got this idea of who you are

kind of got this idea of who you are

kind of got this idea of who you are then I want you to think about the

then I want you to think about the

then I want you to think about the almost self-evident things that you

almost self-evident things that you

almost self-evident things that you missed the things that while utterly

missed the things that while utterly

missed the things that while utterly obvious you never even thought of the

obvious you never even thought of the

obvious you never even thought of the things that aren’t crafted because those

things that aren’t crafted because those

things that aren’t crafted because those are really important too

are really important too

are really important too those are the places often that you’re

those are the places often that you’re

those are the places often that you’re going to find the greatest dissonance

going to find the greatest dissonance

going to find the greatest dissonance and for me we’re gonna talk about that

and for me we’re gonna talk about that

and for me we’re gonna talk about that last one because it’s the one that got

last one because it’s the one that got

last one because it’s the one that got me started on all this so once you have

me started on all this so once you have

me started on all this so once you have this self identity and you’ve got this

this self identity and you’ve got this

this self identity and you’ve got this kind of idea this list and I highly

kind of idea this list and I highly

kind of idea this list and I highly encourage you to write it down and check

encourage you to write it down and check

encourage you to write it down and check back on it every six months or 12 months

back on it every six months or 12 months

back on it every six months or 12 months and go but really who I still am or I

and go but really who I still am or I

and go but really who I still am or I really thought that maybe I need to

really thought that maybe I need to

really thought that maybe I need to rethink that piece of that well then

rethink that piece of that well then

rethink that piece of that well then you’re gonna start watching for

you’re gonna start watching for

you’re gonna start watching for challenges to that identity you can’t

challenges to that identity you can’t

challenges to that identity you can’t look for challenges to something until

look for challenges to something until

look for challenges to something until you know this what that something is

you know this what that something is

you know this what that something is so challenges to your identity I’ll take

so challenges to your identity I’ll take

so challenges to your identity I’ll take you through me when I was born a doctor

you through me when I was born a doctor

you through me when I was born a doctor held me out by the feet and yelled it’s

held me out by the feet and yelled it’s

held me out by the feet and yelled it’s a girl and everybody was excited and

a girl and everybody was excited and

a girl and everybody was excited and bought pink roses and little balloons

bought pink roses and little balloons

bought pink roses and little balloons for my mom and everybody was happy

for my mom and everybody was happy

for my mom and everybody was happy very exciting and as time went on that

very exciting and as time went on that

very exciting and as time went on that was okay I had you know the birthday

was okay I had you know the birthday

was okay I had you know the birthday party in the frilly dress and I read

party in the frilly dress and I read

party in the frilly dress and I read books with my sister and as I got older

books with my sister and as I got older

books with my sister and as I got older I became less and less comfortable with

I became less and less comfortable with

I became less and less comfortable with what the narrative of being a girl meant

what the narrative of being a girl meant

what the narrative of being a girl meant it made me more and more uncomfortable

it made me more and more uncomfortable

it made me more and more uncomfortable and I couldn’t ever put my finger on it

and I couldn’t ever put my finger on it

and I couldn’t ever put my finger on it what was it about the girl thing I knew

what was it about the girl thing I knew

what was it about the girl thing I knew that I was comfortable with the concept

that I was comfortable with the concept

that I was comfortable with the concept the word was the right word I was female

the word was the right word I was female

the word was the right word I was female that was fine by me I had no problems

that was fine by me I had no problems

that was fine by me I had no problems with that and yet something didn’t line

with that and yet something didn’t line

with that and yet something didn’t line up and I allowed myself to take that

up and I allowed myself to take that

up and I allowed myself to take that easy way out of not being like other

easy way out of not being like other

easy way out of not being like other girls so I could ignore all of things

girls so I could ignore all of things

girls so I could ignore all of things in the word that made me uncomfortable

in the word that made me uncomfortable

in the word that made me uncomfortable and all of the expectations from those

and all of the expectations from those

and all of the expectations from those narratives I was given that made me

narratives I was given that made me

narratives I was given that made me unhappy I was a jock I was really into

unhappy I was a jock I was really into

unhappy I was a jock I was really into martial arts this is me at my black belt

martial arts this is me at my black belt

martial arts this is me at my black belt testing in high school and I was a

testing in high school and I was a

testing in high school and I was a complete and utter academic nerd I am

complete and utter academic nerd I am

complete and utter academic nerd I am here dressed up for the Ides of March

here dressed up for the Ides of March

here dressed up for the Ides of March the day when they stabbed Julius Caesar

the day when they stabbed Julius Caesar

the day when they stabbed Julius Caesar to death I wore that toga all over

to death I wore that toga all over

to death I wore that toga all over campus in loving memory but by college I

campus in loving memory but by college I

campus in loving memory but by college I had grown so uncomfortable that I

had grown so uncomfortable that I

had grown so uncomfortable that I refused to put on makeup I issued

refused to put on makeup I issued

refused to put on makeup I issued dresses I felt uncomfortable and judged

dresses I felt uncomfortable and judged

dresses I felt uncomfortable and judged in them and what I didn’t realize was

in them and what I didn’t realize was

in them and what I didn’t realize was that I was being judged by myself now

that I was being judged by myself now

that I was being judged by myself now while I was in college this really

while I was in college this really

while I was in college this really wonderful thing happened

wonderful thing happened

wonderful thing happened I met someone and I got married and this

I met someone and I got married and this

I met someone and I got married and this is one of the only pictures of me

is one of the only pictures of me

is one of the only pictures of me between the ages of 19 and 30 that you

between the ages of 19 and 30 that you

between the ages of 19 and 30 that you will see me in a dress because some part

will see me in a dress because some part

will see me in a dress because some part of me fed into the narrative of wearing

of me fed into the narrative of wearing

of me fed into the narrative of wearing a dress to my wedding but I made sure

a dress to my wedding but I made sure

a dress to my wedding but I made sure everybody knew that I had the little

everybody knew that I had the little

everybody knew that I had the little leggings on underneath it very important

leggings on underneath it very important

leggings on underneath it very important that everybody knew that and I was

that everybody knew that and I was

that everybody knew that and I was wearing flat shoes because goodness

wearing flat shoes because goodness

wearing flat shoes because goodness knows I wasn’t going to wear heels

knows I wasn’t going to wear heels

knows I wasn’t going to wear heels because they made me not just physically

because they made me not just physically

because they made me not just physically but emotionally uncomfortable and my

but emotionally uncomfortable and my

but emotionally uncomfortable and my wife and I moved to Taiwan we were very

wife and I moved to Taiwan we were very

wife and I moved to Taiwan we were very happy and that little thing that

happy and that little thing that

happy and that little thing that continued to niggle in the back of my

continued to niggle in the back of my

continued to niggle in the back of my head just sat there niggling because you

head just sat there niggling because you

head just sat there niggling because you know I could actually ignore it most of

know I could actually ignore it most of

know I could actually ignore it most of the time I didn’t wear makeup I didn’t

the time I didn’t wear makeup I didn’t

the time I didn’t wear makeup I didn’t need to wear dresses so I was okay just

need to wear dresses so I was okay just

need to wear dresses so I was okay just ignoring the fact that it existed and I

ignoring the fact that it existed and I

ignoring the fact that it existed and I could go on with my life and that was

could go on with my life and that was

could go on with my life and that was fine so I found challenges but I hadn’t

fine so I found challenges but I hadn’t

fine so I found challenges but I hadn’t confronted them because every time it

confronted them because every time it

confronted them because every time it came up I simply said you know this

came up I simply said you know this

came up I simply said you know this isn’t a big deal this isn’t really a big

isn’t a big deal this isn’t really a big

isn’t a big deal this isn’t really a big problem just push it back push it back

problem just push it back push it back

problem just push it back push it back and I’m just me it’s it’s just me but I

and I’m just me it’s it’s just me but I

and I’m just me it’s it’s just me but I didn’t realize that I was judging the

didn’t realize that I was judging the

didn’t realize that I was judging the other women around me who actually did

other women around me who actually did

other women around me who actually did do these things

do these things

do these things that made me uncomfortable and there

that made me uncomfortable and there

that made me uncomfortable and there were times when I even tried to convince

were times when I even tried to convince

were times when I even tried to convince them not to do it because you know what

them not to do it because you know what

them not to do it because you know what that’s just them selling you a certain

that’s just them selling you a certain

that’s just them selling you a certain version of womanhood and that’s not cool

version of womanhood and that’s not cool

version of womanhood and that’s not cool completely ignoring that of course

completely ignoring that of course

completely ignoring that of course there’s more than one version of

there’s more than one version of

there’s more than one version of womanhood but I was uncomfortable with

womanhood but I was uncomfortable with

womanhood but I was uncomfortable with any version that wasn’t mine

any version that wasn’t mine

any version that wasn’t mine what I needed was a model of

what I needed was a model of

what I needed was a model of confrontation a way to actually look at

confrontation a way to actually look at

confrontation a way to actually look at it an example I’m gonna give you on the

it an example I’m gonna give you on the

it an example I’m gonna give you on the surface kind of looks like examples that

surface kind of looks like examples that

surface kind of looks like examples that I had but the experiences are incredibly

I had but the experiences are incredibly

I had but the experiences are incredibly different and yet it was a model of

different and yet it was a model of

different and yet it was a model of confrontation for me a way to start

confrontation for me a way to start

confrontation for me a way to start asking more important questions so when

asking more important questions so when

asking more important questions so when Amber was born she had the same pink

Amber was born she had the same pink

Amber was born she had the same pink balloons and little roses and everybody

balloons and little roses and everybody

balloons and little roses and everybody was happy and she went home and in

was happy and she went home and in

was happy and she went home and in college she met this really wonderful

college she met this really wonderful

college she met this really wonderful woman and they got married and they

woman and they got married and they

woman and they got married and they moved to Taiwan and they were happy but

moved to Taiwan and they were happy but

moved to Taiwan and they were happy but while I was dealing with a certain piece

while I was dealing with a certain piece

while I was dealing with a certain piece of my identity the piece that had to do

of my identity the piece that had to do

of my identity the piece that had to do with my definition of the word female of

with my definition of the word female of

with my definition of the word female of the word girl of woman amber was walking

the word girl of woman amber was walking

the word girl of woman amber was walking down a path that like I said on the

down a path that like I said on the

down a path that like I said on the outside it looks really similar and yet

outside it looks really similar and yet

outside it looks really similar and yet it was so incredibly different because

it was so incredibly different because

it was so incredibly different because amber realized after we moved here that

amber realized after we moved here that

amber realized after we moved here that while it wasn’t the definitions of woman

while it wasn’t the definitions of woman

while it wasn’t the definitions of woman that made her uncomfortable

that made her uncomfortable

that made her uncomfortable it was the being a woman that didn’t

it was the being a woman that didn’t

it was the being a woman that didn’t work so amber became sky and my wife

work so amber became sky and my wife

work so amber became sky and my wife came out as my husband and confronted

came out as my husband and confronted

came out as my husband and confronted those things and this was not an easy

those things and this was not an easy

those things and this was not an easy process this was a difficult process of

process this was a difficult process of

process this was a difficult process of asking lots and lots of very complicated

asking lots and lots of very complicated

asking lots and lots of very complicated questions questions like not just what

questions questions like not just what

questions questions like not just what does it mean to be a woman because that

does it mean to be a woman because that

does it mean to be a woman because that was never the question the question was

was never the question the question was

was never the question the question was who am I am

who am I am

who am I am bigger question than I had been

bigger question than I had been

bigger question than I had been approaching and a question that was much

approaching and a question that was much

approaching and a question that was much scarier because it was a much deeper

scarier because it was a much deeper

scarier because it was a much deeper redefinition of self and my husband came

redefinition of self and my husband came

redefinition of self and my husband came out as my spouse eventually and I’ve

out as my spouse eventually and I’ve

out as my spouse eventually and I’ve never seen them happier and I’ve never

never seen them happier and I’ve never

never seen them happier and I’ve never seen them more true to themselves and

seen them more true to themselves and

seen them more true to themselves and for me this was what I wanted I wanted a

for me this was what I wanted I wanted a

for me this was what I wanted I wanted a version of self that was true that was

version of self that was true that was

version of self that was true that was me that I could identify as I needed to

me that I could identify as I needed to

me that I could identify as I needed to confront those questions I needed to

confront those questions I needed to

confront those questions I needed to confront that definition but to confront

confront that definition but to confront

confront that definition but to confront it I had to go back and I had to ask the

it I had to go back and I had to ask the

it I had to go back and I had to ask the questions again because I figured that

questions again because I figured that

questions again because I figured that once I’d gone through them in high

once I’d gone through them in high

once I’d gone through them in high school we were done right I mean you

school we were done right I mean you

school we were done right I mean you don’t have to learn things twice except

don’t have to learn things twice except

don’t have to learn things twice except that it’s not learning it’s experience

that it’s not learning it’s experience

that it’s not learning it’s experience and it’s growth and it’s change because

and it’s growth and it’s change because

and it’s growth and it’s change because my narrative didn’t fit me and I

my narrative didn’t fit me and I

my narrative didn’t fit me and I realized that the narrative that I’ve

realized that the narrative that I’ve

realized that the narrative that I’ve been given for a woman actually didn’t

been given for a woman actually didn’t

been given for a woman actually didn’t fit the women around me either

fit the women around me either

fit the women around me either and so I started asking questions not

and so I started asking questions not

and so I started asking questions not just of myself and that was the piece

just of myself and that was the piece

just of myself and that was the piece that was important because when Skye

that was important because when Skye

that was important because when Skye went through their identity

went through their identity

went through their identity confrontation we talked about it

confrontation we talked about it

confrontation we talked about it together they talked about it with other

together they talked about it with other

together they talked about it with other people and this was the model of

people and this was the model of

people and this was the model of confrontation I need it asking really

confrontation I need it asking really

confrontation I need it asking really hard questions really hard questions

hard questions really hard questions

hard questions really hard questions things that have the ability to change

things that have the ability to change

things that have the ability to change you fundamentally questioning not just

you fundamentally questioning not just

you fundamentally questioning not just who you are but why you’re that person

who you are but why you’re that person

who you are but why you’re that person and whether you’ve chosen to be that

and whether you’ve chosen to be that

and whether you’ve chosen to be that person or whether it was chosen for you

person or whether it was chosen for you

person or whether it was chosen for you did you accept the narrative because it

did you accept the narrative because it

did you accept the narrative because it was easy or did you actually go through

was easy or did you actually go through

was easy or did you actually go through a process of deciding that it was

a process of deciding that it was

a process of deciding that it was important to be that

important to be that

important to be that person and so I started having these

person and so I started having these

person and so I started having these conversations with everyone and this

conversations with everyone and this

conversations with everyone and this amazing thing happened I realized that

amazing thing happened I realized that

amazing thing happened I realized that the narratives didn’t fit anyone I knew

the narratives didn’t fit anyone I knew

the narratives didn’t fit anyone I knew and so I figured out that the last piece

and so I figured out that the last piece

and so I figured out that the last piece of this was to not stop asking but also

of this was to not stop asking but also

of this was to not stop asking but also to never stop asking other people this

to never stop asking other people this

to never stop asking other people this is not an experience that can happen

is not an experience that can happen

is not an experience that can happen only in yourself

only in yourself

only in yourself this is an experience if we’re going to

this is an experience if we’re going to

this is an experience if we’re going to change the world and we’re gonna change

change the world and we’re gonna change

change the world and we’re gonna change the narratives so that people have more

the narratives so that people have more

the narratives so that people have more choices so people have more ability to

choices so people have more ability to

choices so people have more ability to understand who they are and what their

understand who they are and what their

understand who they are and what their abilities and potential and

abilities and potential and

abilities and potential and opportunities are then we can’t stop

opportunities are then we can’t stop

opportunities are then we can’t stop asking and we have to ask others and you

asking and we have to ask others and you

asking and we have to ask others and you don’t have to have an answer when you

don’t have to have an answer when you

don’t have to have an answer when you ask you just start asking so I asked the

ask you just start asking so I asked the

ask you just start asking so I asked the women around me what it meant to be a

women around me what it meant to be a

women around me what it meant to be a woman and I found that none of them had

woman and I found that none of them had

woman and I found that none of them had narratives that met that story that I’d

narratives that met that story that I’d

narratives that met that story that I’d been told of Sleeping Beauty waiting for

been told of Sleeping Beauty waiting for

been told of Sleeping Beauty waiting for her prince to come or even the TV shows

her prince to come or even the TV shows

her prince to come or even the TV shows I watched growing up we none of us were

I watched growing up we none of us were

I watched growing up we none of us were any of those people and that was okay

any of those people and that was okay

any of those people and that was okay but we also learned that those

but we also learned that those

but we also learned that those narratives had to be rewritten and that

narratives had to be rewritten and that

narratives had to be rewritten and that you rewrite them by talking to people

you rewrite them by talking to people

you rewrite them by talking to people and asking questions and asking them to

and asking questions and asking them to

and asking questions and asking them to actually look into who they are and I

actually look into who they are and I

actually look into who they are and I figured out through this process of

figured out through this process of

figured out through this process of questioning that you know the heart of

questioning that you know the heart of

questioning that you know the heart of the question you asked the more

the question you asked the more

the question you asked the more important the answer is gonna be so it’s

important the answer is gonna be so it’s

important the answer is gonna be so it’s one thing for me to stand here and ask

one thing for me to stand here and ask

one thing for me to stand here and ask what it means for me to be a woman but

what it means for me to be a woman but

what it means for me to be a woman but you know I had a conversation with a

you know I had a conversation with a

you know I had a conversation with a friend a little while ago she’s Asian

friend a little while ago she’s Asian

friend a little while ago she’s Asian American and I was talking to her and I

American and I was talking to her and I

American and I was talking to her and I said so you know you’re you’re Asian

said so you know you’re you’re Asian

said so you know you’re you’re Asian what does that mean to you are you proud

what does that mean to you are you proud

what does that mean to you are you proud of it she’s like yes I’m proud of it she

of it she’s like yes I’m proud of it she

of it she’s like yes I’m proud of it she had an answer for what it meant because

had an answer for what it meant because

had an answer for what it meant because she’d had to think through it she’d

she’d had to think through it she’d

she’d had to think through it she’d actually gone through that experience of

actually gone through that experience of

actually gone through that experience of thinking through what it meant for her

thinking through what it meant for her

thinking through what it meant for her to be Asian in the United States and

to be Asian in the United States and

to be Asian in the United States and then the darndest thing she looked at me

then the darndest thing she looked at me

then the darndest thing she looked at me and she said so what does it mean for

and she said so what does it mean for

and she said so what does it mean for you to be white

you to be white

you to be white [Music]

[Music]

[Music] and I have nothing I had no answer for

and I have nothing I had no answer for

and I have nothing I had no answer for that at all because I never thought

that at all because I never thought

that at all because I never thought about it you know all the people on the

about it you know all the people on the

about it you know all the people on the TV shows were white and everyone where I

TV shows were white and everyone where I

TV shows were white and everyone where I grew up was white and you know it wasn’t

grew up was white and you know it wasn’t

grew up was white and you know it wasn’t something that people had ever asked me

something that people had ever asked me

something that people had ever asked me about before and nobody challenged it

about before and nobody challenged it

about before and nobody challenged it and I realized that that was a lot

and I realized that that was a lot

and I realized that that was a lot harder question and really scary because

harder question and really scary because

harder question and really scary because if I started asking what that meant and

if I started asking what that meant and

if I started asking what that meant and I had to deal with all of those things

I had to deal with all of those things

I had to deal with all of those things that came along with being white and I

that came along with being white and I

that came along with being white and I had to actually have an identity based

had to actually have an identity based

had to actually have an identity based on acknowledging it instead of what I’d

on acknowledging it instead of what I’d

on acknowledging it instead of what I’d always had which was an identity based

always had which was an identity based

always had which was an identity based on ignoring it and pretending it didn’t

on ignoring it and pretending it didn’t

on ignoring it and pretending it didn’t matter because it matters of course it

matter because it matters of course it

matter because it matters of course it matters so I asked my friends difficult

matters so I asked my friends difficult

matters so I asked my friends difficult questions and I’m a teacher and I asked

questions and I’m a teacher and I asked

questions and I’m a teacher and I asked my students difficult questions and the

my students difficult questions and the

my students difficult questions and the whole point is to get them to think

whole point is to get them to think

whole point is to get them to think about this friends students my parents

about this friends students my parents

about this friends students my parents everyone I think everybody needs to

everyone I think everybody needs to

everyone I think everybody needs to answer these questions everyone needs to

answer these questions everyone needs to

answer these questions everyone needs to find the answers and you know you’ll

find the answers and you know you’ll

find the answers and you know you’ll find out that the most important

find out that the most important

find out that the most important questions in these are the ones that

questions in these are the ones that

questions in these are the ones that come up when you start asking the things

come up when you start asking the things

come up when you start asking the things you’ve never thought about the things

you’ve never thought about the things

you’ve never thought about the things you’ve always taken for granted

you’ve always taken for granted

you’ve always taken for granted questions of race and gender and faith

questions of race and gender and faith

questions of race and gender and faith and nationality and language the things

and nationality and language the things

and nationality and language the things that you’ve always just accepted as true

that you’ve always just accepted as true

that you’ve always just accepted as true the same way that we accept that the sky

the same way that we accept that the sky

the same way that we accept that the sky is blue and we don’t outside about grade

is blue and we don’t outside about grade

is blue and we don’t outside about grade three when they explained it really

three when they explained it really

three when they explained it really asked why I had to start asking what it

asked why I had to start asking what it

asked why I had to start asking what it meant for me to be white and what it

meant for me to be white and what it

meant for me to be white and what it meant to have been raised Protestant and

meant to have been raised Protestant and

meant to have been raised Protestant and what it meant to be a woman and what it

what it meant to be a woman and what it

what it meant to be a woman and what it meant to be American and I’m still

meant to be American and I’m still

meant to be American and I’m still working on them and I’m still asking

working on them and I’m still asking

working on them and I’m still asking these same questions and I’ll have you

these same questions and I’ll have you

these same questions and I’ll have you know I asked my mother the same question

know I asked my mother the same question

know I asked my mother the same question every couple years in the conversation

every couple years in the conversation

every couple years in the conversation we have changes every time and that’s

we have changes every time and that’s

we have changes every time and that’s the best part because it means that the

the best part because it means that the

the best part because it means that the ideas change

dissonance is a sign this thing where

dissonance is a sign this thing where your world doesn’t match where you start

your world doesn’t match where you start

your world doesn’t match where you start to notice little bits of discomfort and

to notice little bits of discomfort and

to notice little bits of discomfort and you kind of push them off you’re like no

you kind of push them off you’re like no

you kind of push them off you’re like no no no it’s cool it’s cool it’s cool and

no no it’s cool it’s cool it’s cool and

no no it’s cool it’s cool it’s cool and you start that doublethink process where

you start that doublethink process where

you start that doublethink process where you know on the one hand I know that

you know on the one hand I know that

you know on the one hand I know that girls wear dresses and makeup and that

girls wear dresses and makeup and that

girls wear dresses and makeup and that they want to be mothers and have

they want to be mothers and have

they want to be mothers and have children and yet on the other hand I

children and yet on the other hand I

children and yet on the other hand I have am NOT going to have children and I

have am NOT going to have children and I

have am NOT going to have children and I am NOT interested in pink fluffy dresses

am NOT interested in pink fluffy dresses

am NOT interested in pink fluffy dresses most of the time and and and how do I

most of the time and and and how do I

most of the time and and and how do I make these match and I go it’s okay I’m

make these match and I go it’s okay I’m

make these match and I go it’s okay I’m just not like that everybody else is

just not like that everybody else is

just not like that everybody else is like that but I’m not like that and

like that but I’m not like that and

like that but I’m not like that and that’s okay because not everybody else

that’s okay because not everybody else

that’s okay because not everybody else is like that and those moments of

is like that and those moments of

is like that and those moments of dissonance start looking for them

dissonance start looking for them

dissonance start looking for them because they’re a sign that something

because they’re a sign that something

because they’re a sign that something isn’t right something in the narrative

isn’t right something in the narrative

isn’t right something in the narrative is wrong or missing because the

is wrong or missing because the

is wrong or missing because the narrative was easy and we like easy it’s

narrative was easy and we like easy it’s

narrative was easy and we like easy it’s comfortable and when you notice that ask

comfortable and when you notice that ask

comfortable and when you notice that ask yourself what’s wrong ask yourself where

yourself what’s wrong ask yourself where

yourself what’s wrong ask yourself where it’s coming from and then ask other

it’s coming from and then ask other

it’s coming from and then ask other people I paint my nails as a way to

people I paint my nails as a way to

people I paint my nails as a way to explain this to people I painted them as

explain this to people I painted them as

explain this to people I painted them as a way to come to terms with my

a way to come to terms with my

a way to come to terms with my femininity to walk out of the house and

femininity to walk out of the house and

femininity to walk out of the house and ask why when nobody noticed that I’d

ask why when nobody noticed that I’d

ask why when nobody noticed that I’d painted my nails why did I feel

painted my nails why did I feel

painted my nails why did I feel self-conscious and shameful why was I

self-conscious and shameful why was I

self-conscious and shameful why was I uncomfortable with this and it was

uncomfortable with this and it was

uncomfortable with this and it was because I thought that people were

because I thought that people were

because I thought that people were judging me and were seeing me as much

judging me and were seeing me as much

judging me and were seeing me as much more effeminate maybe then I felt or

more effeminate maybe then I felt or

more effeminate maybe then I felt or something and the reason I felt shame

something and the reason I felt shame

something and the reason I felt shame was I thought that all these bad things

was I thought that all these bad things

was I thought that all these bad things were gonna come along with it because

were gonna come along with it because

were gonna come along with it because those were the messages I was given so I

those were the messages I was given so I

those were the messages I was given so I paint my nails so I can ask other people

paint my nails so I can ask other people

paint my nails so I can ask other people it’s to remind me to ask other people

it’s to remind me to ask other people

it’s to remind me to ask other people these hard questions because when we ask

these hard questions because when we ask

these hard questions because when we ask questions and when we start challenging

questions and when we start challenging

questions and when we start challenging easy identities we start challenging

easy identities we start challenging

easy identities we start challenging those stereotypes then what started out

those stereotypes then what started out

those stereotypes then what started out as a whisper

as a whisper

as a whisper of discomfort turns into a roar of

of discomfort turns into a roar of

of discomfort turns into a roar of disillusionment where people realize

disillusionment where people realize

disillusionment where people realize that the story isn’t true and that’s

that the story isn’t true and that’s

that the story isn’t true and that’s when the stories change and that’s how

when the stories change and that’s how

when the stories change and that’s how we change the world thank you

we change the world thank you

we change the world thank you [Applause]

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