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Challenging Asian Stereotypes and “Breaking the Fourth Wall” | Maggie Chen | TEDxDominicanIntlSchool


my name is yuan Chen but I prefer to be

my name is yuan Chen but I prefer to be called Maggie and as you can see I’m

called Maggie and as you can see I’m

called Maggie and as you can see I’m Asian yet I’m the prime example us as to

Asian yet I’m the prime example us as to

Asian yet I’m the prime example us as to why the stereotyped Asians are gonna

why the stereotyped Asians are gonna

why the stereotyped Asians are gonna math is not true I am pretty bad at math

math is not true I am pretty bad at math

math is not true I am pretty bad at math I spend sixth grade abroad in small town

I spend sixth grade abroad in small town

I spend sixth grade abroad in small town champaign-urbana there I went to a

champaign-urbana there I went to a

champaign-urbana there I went to a public Middle School and since I passed

public Middle School and since I passed

public Middle School and since I passed the English proficiency test I took the

the English proficiency test I took the

the English proficiency test I took the same classes as my fellow American

same classes as my fellow American

same classes as my fellow American friends for my math class I was put in

friends for my math class I was put in

friends for my math class I was put in what they called AI math an intermediate

what they called AI math an intermediate

what they called AI math an intermediate level math class

level math class

level math class quite possibly just because I was Asian

quite possibly just because I was Asian

quite possibly just because I was Asian in my 3rd quarter of 6th grade I

in my 3rd quarter of 6th grade I

in my 3rd quarter of 6th grade I received my first B in you guessed it I

received my first B in you guessed it I

received my first B in you guessed it I math as mentioned in the hit American

math as mentioned in the hit American

math as mentioned in the hit American sitcom fresh-off-the-boat

sitcom fresh-off-the-boat

sitcom fresh-off-the-boat Abby – is an Asian F so when my parents

Abby – is an Asian F so when my parents

Abby – is an Asian F so when my parents heard about might be in math they yelled

heard about might be in math they yelled

heard about might be in math they yelled at me and told me to practice more

at me and told me to practice more

at me and told me to practice more although this anecdote of mine has more

although this anecdote of mine has more

although this anecdote of mine has more to do with just Euro types for the

to do with just Euro types for the

to do with just Euro types for the purpose of this TED talk it serves as an

purpose of this TED talk it serves as an

purpose of this TED talk it serves as an example that the stereotype Asians are

example that the stereotype Asians are

example that the stereotype Asians are good at math is in fact inaccurate Asian

good at math is in fact inaccurate Asian

good at math is in fact inaccurate Asian stereotypes however don’t just refer to

stereotypes however don’t just refer to

stereotypes however don’t just refer to being the perfect student having

being the perfect student having

being the perfect student having impeccable grades they range with the

impeccable grades they range with the

impeccable grades they range with the most classic one being all Asians look

most classic one being all Asians look

most classic one being all Asians look the same as I mentioned before I

the same as I mentioned before I

the same as I mentioned before I attended a public school in

attended a public school in

attended a public school in champaign-urbana which if you’ve heard

champaign-urbana which if you’ve heard

champaign-urbana which if you’ve heard of the city you would know that it is

of the city you would know that it is

of the city you would know that it is quite literally in the middle of nowhere

quite literally in the middle of nowhere

quite literally in the middle of nowhere thus I was the only full Taiwanese kid

thus I was the only full Taiwanese kid

thus I was the only full Taiwanese kid in an entire middle school of around 800

in an entire middle school of around 800

in an entire middle school of around 800 students there was another girl however

students there was another girl however

students there was another girl however who was half chinese and half American

who was half chinese and half American

who was half chinese and half American and because of that I’ve gotten

and because of that I’ve gotten

and because of that I’ve gotten questions like hey do you have a sister

questions like hey do you have a sister

questions like hey do you have a sister in eighth grade or oh my god are you and

in eighth grade or oh my god are you and

in eighth grade or oh my god are you and Lauren related countless of times well

Lauren related countless of times well

Lauren related countless of times well here’s the thing contrary to your belief

here’s the thing contrary to your belief

here’s the thing contrary to your belief just because Lauren and I are both

just because Lauren and I are both

just because Lauren and I are both Taiwanese it does not mean that we look

Taiwanese it does not mean that we look

Taiwanese it does not mean that we look alike and moreover it definitely doesn’t

alike and moreover it definitely doesn’t

alike and moreover it definitely doesn’t suggest that we are related moving on

suggest that we are related moving on

suggest that we are related moving on another stereotype that is this is all

another stereotype that is this is all

another stereotype that is this is all Asians are interchangeable now what does

Asians are interchangeable now what does

Asians are interchangeable now what does this mean

this mean

this mean when I was a sixth grader in Champaign

when I was a sixth grader in Champaign

when I was a sixth grader in Champaign Urbana my friend and I were approached

Urbana my friend and I were approached

Urbana my friend and I were approached by classmate after lunch he proceeded to

by classmate after lunch he proceeded to

by classmate after lunch he proceeded to ask me what I thought was a quite

ask me what I thought was a quite

ask me what I thought was a quite insulting question do you eat dog meat

insulting question do you eat dog meat

insulting question do you eat dog meat I shot him a confused and disgusted look

I shot him a confused and disgusted look

I shot him a confused and disgusted look no I don’t do you that didn’t stop him

no I don’t do you that didn’t stop him

no I don’t do you that didn’t stop him from pestering me I heard that all

from pestering me I heard that all

from pestering me I heard that all Chinese people eat dog meat you’re from

Chinese people eat dog meat you’re from

Chinese people eat dog meat you’re from China right I shook my head no I’m from

China right I shook my head no I’m from

China right I shook my head no I’m from Taiwan and I certainly don’t eat dog

Taiwan and I certainly don’t eat dog

Taiwan and I certainly don’t eat dog meat what he said next was what

meat what he said next was what

meat what he said next was what flustered me the most China Taiwan

flustered me the most China Taiwan

flustered me the most China Taiwan they’re all the same and they all eat

they’re all the same and they all eat

they’re all the same and they all eat dog meat excuse me I could feel myself

dog meat excuse me I could feel myself

dog meat excuse me I could feel myself boil with rage yet I stood there silent

boil with rage yet I stood there silent

boil with rage yet I stood there silent my friend who originally stayed silent

my friend who originally stayed silent

my friend who originally stayed silent throughout this whole conversation

throughout this whole conversation

throughout this whole conversation rushed to my defense leave her alone she

rushed to my defense leave her alone she

rushed to my defense leave her alone she said this is what I mean

said this is what I mean

said this is what I mean not only are people faced with

not only are people faced with

not only are people faced with ridiculous stereotypes such as Chinese

ridiculous stereotypes such as Chinese

ridiculous stereotypes such as Chinese people eat dog meat but also China

people eat dog meat but also China

people eat dog meat but also China Taiwan South Korea Japan and many other

Taiwan South Korea Japan and many other

Taiwan South Korea Japan and many other East Asian countries are at times all

East Asian countries are at times all

East Asian countries are at times all grouped together and in situations like

grouped together and in situations like

grouped together and in situations like these we’re all interchangeable right I

these we’re all interchangeable right I

these we’re all interchangeable right I attorneys and just like anyone at the

attorneys and just like anyone at the

attorneys and just like anyone at the 1.34 belly in Chinese population right

1.34 belly in Chinese population right

1.34 belly in Chinese population right wrong Asia or my specific case East Asia

wrong Asia or my specific case East Asia

wrong Asia or my specific case East Asia is made up of a myriad of cultures and

is made up of a myriad of cultures and

is made up of a myriad of cultures and ethnicities all of them different and

ethnicities all of them different and

ethnicities all of them different and unique from one another instead of

unique from one another instead of

unique from one another instead of assuming these ethnicities as these

assuming these ethnicities as these

assuming these ethnicities as these cultures as interchangeable what we need

cultures as interchangeable what we need

cultures as interchangeable what we need to do is to respect and acknowledge them

to do is to respect and acknowledge them

to do is to respect and acknowledge them as they are finally I like to bring up

as they are finally I like to bring up

as they are finally I like to bring up one final example of Asian stereotypes

one final example of Asian stereotypes

one final example of Asian stereotypes in place today this was vastly different

in place today this was vastly different

in place today this was vastly different from everything I’ve mentioned before

from everything I’ve mentioned before

from everything I’ve mentioned before which were my personal experiences show

which were my personal experiences show

which were my personal experiences show of hands how many of you has ever seen

of hands how many of you has ever seen

of hands how many of you has ever seen or heard the recent hit Netflix show

or heard the recent hit Netflix show

or heard the recent hit Netflix show thirteen reasons why now what I’m

thirteen reasons why now what I’m

thirteen reasons why now what I’m bringing up does not directly relate to

bringing up does not directly relate to

bringing up does not directly relate to the show itself but rather one specific

the show itself but rather one specific

the show itself but rather one specific act

act

act in the cast and crew his name is Ross

in the cast and crew his name is Ross

in the cast and crew his name is Ross Butler he’s six feet four asian-american

Butler he’s six feet four asian-american

Butler he’s six feet four asian-american and a classic hunk due to copyright

and a classic hunk due to copyright

and a classic hunk due to copyright issues I’m not able to put up a picture

issues I’m not able to put up a picture

issues I’m not able to put up a picture of him in my slides so for those of you

of him in my slides so for those of you

of him in my slides so for those of you who are unfamiliar with the show or this

who are unfamiliar with the show or this

who are unfamiliar with the show or this actor you just have to use your

actor you just have to use your

actor you just have to use your imagination in 13 reasons why Butler

imagination in 13 reasons why Butler

imagination in 13 reasons why Butler plays Zack Dempsey a popular basketball

plays Zack Dempsey a popular basketball

plays Zack Dempsey a popular basketball player with a nice insensitive but

player with a nice insensitive but

player with a nice insensitive but mysterious side as I’ve described before

mysterious side as I’ve described before

mysterious side as I’ve described before Butler is six feet four athletic and

Butler is six feet four athletic and

Butler is six feet four athletic and good-looking had some might occur to you

good-looking had some might occur to you

good-looking had some might occur to you naturally but he would be a good fit for

naturally but he would be a good fit for

naturally but he would be a good fit for this character yet it wasn’t always easy

this character yet it wasn’t always easy

this character yet it wasn’t always easy for Butler to land these roles being an

for Butler to land these roles being an

for Butler to land these roles being an Asian American Butler’s path in

Asian American Butler’s path in

Asian American Butler’s path in Hollywood was not exactly smooth sailing

Hollywood was not exactly smooth sailing

Hollywood was not exactly smooth sailing he was stereotyped since roles written

he was stereotyped since roles written

he was stereotyped since roles written for Asians usually required him to be

for Asians usually required him to be

for Asians usually required him to be the geeky computer nerd or the martial

the geeky computer nerd or the martial

the geeky computer nerd or the martial artist he was neither sick of casting

artist he was neither sick of casting

artist he was neither sick of casting calls like these Butler decided to stop

calls like these Butler decided to stop

calls like these Butler decided to stop auditioning for just the Asian rules by

auditioning for just the Asian rules by

auditioning for just the Asian rules by doing so he had stepped out of the

doing so he had stepped out of the

doing so he had stepped out of the ordinary and have begun to obtain roles

ordinary and have begun to obtain roles

ordinary and have begun to obtain roles such as Reggie mantle the playful jock

such as Reggie mantle the playful jock

such as Reggie mantle the playful jock on Riverdale which is another famous TV

on Riverdale which is another famous TV

on Riverdale which is another famous TV show and Zack Dempsey on 13 reasons why

show and Zack Dempsey on 13 reasons why

show and Zack Dempsey on 13 reasons why Ross Butler’s case is one that we need

Ross Butler’s case is one that we need

Ross Butler’s case is one that we need to take a look at why because it shows

to take a look at why because it shows

to take a look at why because it shows that Asian stereotypes aren’t just an

that Asian stereotypes aren’t just an

that Asian stereotypes aren’t just an issue in small towns such as

issue in small towns such as

issue in small towns such as champaign-urbana but it is just as

champaign-urbana but it is just as

champaign-urbana but it is just as prevalent and somewhere as glamorous as

prevalent and somewhere as glamorous as

prevalent and somewhere as glamorous as Hollywood furthermore another reason why

Hollywood furthermore another reason why

Hollywood furthermore another reason why we need to bring our attention to Butler

we need to bring our attention to Butler

we need to bring our attention to Butler is because of his attitude he persevered

is because of his attitude he persevered

is because of his attitude he persevered in the face of these stereotypes and at

in the face of these stereotypes and at

in the face of these stereotypes and at last successfully broke them on the

last successfully broke them on the

last successfully broke them on the other hand consequences of these

other hand consequences of these

other hand consequences of these stereotypes are not always positive

stereotypes are not always positive

stereotypes are not always positive take me for instance in middle school I

take me for instance in middle school I

take me for instance in middle school I was left feeling out of place not only

was left feeling out of place not only

was left feeling out of place not only did I feel like I couldn’t keep up with

did I feel like I couldn’t keep up with

did I feel like I couldn’t keep up with the high expectations teachers and peers

the high expectations teachers and peers

the high expectations teachers and peers had for me but I also struggled with the

had for me but I also struggled with the

had for me but I also struggled with the fact that I was unable to be like all of

fact that I was unable to be like all of

fact that I was unable to be like all of my American friends I begged my parents

my American friends I begged my parents

my American friends I begged my parents not to make me sushi with healthy black

not to make me sushi with healthy black

not to make me sushi with healthy black rice for school lunch because I wanted

rice for school lunch because I wanted

rice for school lunch because I wanted to eat pizza like everybody else I

to eat pizza like everybody else I

to eat pizza like everybody else I wasn’t able to relate to my friends

wasn’t able to relate to my friends

wasn’t able to relate to my friends conversations about Barney the Dinosaur

conversations about Barney the Dinosaur

conversations about Barney the Dinosaur as I had never watched the show growing

as I had never watched the show growing

as I had never watched the show growing up I could ensure anon my friends

up I could ensure anon my friends

up I could ensure anon my friends excitement for Christmas

excitement for Christmas

excitement for Christmas as my family taught only celebrated

as my family taught only celebrated

as my family taught only celebrated Chinese New Year my differences felt

Chinese New Year my differences felt

Chinese New Year my differences felt like scars which was something I needed

like scars which was something I needed

like scars which was something I needed to erase in the end I felt myself

to erase in the end I felt myself

to erase in the end I felt myself desperately trying to live up to the

desperately trying to live up to the

desperately trying to live up to the Asian stereotype of the model student

Asian stereotype of the model student

Asian stereotype of the model student well trying to be more American

well trying to be more American

well trying to be more American culturally this continued until one day

culturally this continued until one day

culturally this continued until one day my language arts teacher forced us all

my language arts teacher forced us all

my language arts teacher forced us all to enter a district-wide

to enter a district-wide

to enter a district-wide young authors writing contest at first

young authors writing contest at first

young authors writing contest at first it seemed easy to me I loved writing as

it seemed easy to me I loved writing as

it seemed easy to me I loved writing as it provided for me a way to decide every

it provided for me a way to decide every

it provided for me a way to decide every single detail from witty characters to

single detail from witty characters to

single detail from witty characters to mind-blowing plot twists I intended for

mind-blowing plot twists I intended for

mind-blowing plot twists I intended for my story to make up for everything I

my story to make up for everything I

my story to make up for everything I didn’t have in life consequently my

didn’t have in life consequently my

didn’t have in life consequently my story revolved around a family of

story revolved around a family of

story revolved around a family of wizards on Christmas Eve

wizards on Christmas Eve

wizards on Christmas Eve then something felt wrong I had no idea

then something felt wrong I had no idea

then something felt wrong I had no idea of how to describe the spirit of

of how to describe the spirit of

of how to describe the spirit of Christmas or the thrill of opening

Christmas or the thrill of opening

Christmas or the thrill of opening presents that was when a light bulb went

presents that was when a light bulb went

presents that was when a light bulb went off in my head and I came to a sudden

off in my head and I came to a sudden

off in my head and I came to a sudden realization I began to write furiously

realization I began to write furiously

realization I began to write furiously and as the pages grew that contained

and as the pages grew that contained

and as the pages grew that contained more of what I cherished in life rather

more of what I cherished in life rather

more of what I cherished in life rather than what I desired Christmas Eve turned

than what I desired Christmas Eve turned

than what I desired Christmas Eve turned into Chinese New Year and I became a

into Chinese New Year and I became a

into Chinese New Year and I became a more optimistic person and I realized

more optimistic person and I realized

more optimistic person and I realized what I felt before about not belonging

what I felt before about not belonging

what I felt before about not belonging was a mental obstacle in the title of my

was a mental obstacle in the title of my

was a mental obstacle in the title of my talk I mentioned a term used in film

talk I mentioned a term used in film

talk I mentioned a term used in film breaking the fourth wall for those of

breaking the fourth wall for those of

breaking the fourth wall for those of you who are having trouble understanding

you who are having trouble understanding

you who are having trouble understanding the fourth wall is defined as a

the fourth wall is defined as a

the fourth wall is defined as a theatrical term for in the imaginary

theatrical term for in the imaginary

theatrical term for in the imaginary wall that exists between actors on stage

wall that exists between actors on stage

wall that exists between actors on stage or actors looking at a camera lens and

or actors looking at a camera lens and

or actors looking at a camera lens and the audience thus breaking the fourth

the audience thus breaking the fourth

the audience thus breaking the fourth wall meant that actors break boundaries

wall meant that actors break boundaries

wall meant that actors break boundaries and speak directly to the audience

and speak directly to the audience

and speak directly to the audience instead of into a camera lens in my

instead of into a camera lens in my

instead of into a camera lens in my situation it represented a shift in the

situation it represented a shift in the

situation it represented a shift in the way I thought of myself I began to

way I thought of myself I began to

way I thought of myself I began to appreciate who I was and even qualities

appreciate who I was and even qualities

appreciate who I was and even qualities of my own that seeped into the

of my own that seeped into the

of my own that seeped into the characters and my stories my differences

characters and my stories my differences

characters and my stories my differences were still scarce but now I looked at

were still scarce but now I looked at

were still scarce but now I looked at them as a part of myself as something

them as a part of myself as something

them as a part of myself as something that made me special by just changing my

that made me special by just changing my

that made me special by just changing my mindset I returned into a more

mindset I returned into a more

mindset I returned into a more optimistic person and someone who knew

optimistic person and someone who knew

optimistic person and someone who knew that I what I was worth

that I what I was worth

that I what I was worth to sum up Asian stereotypes are still

to sum up Asian stereotypes are still

to sum up Asian stereotypes are still very much real even though we are

very much real even though we are

very much real even though we are constantly named the model minority

constantly named the model minority

constantly named the model minority meaning that we agents achieve higher

meaning that we agents achieve higher

meaning that we agents achieve higher success than that of the population

success than that of the population

success than that of the population average we still face racism and and

average we still face racism and and

average we still face racism and and discrimination it is something that we

discrimination it is something that we

discrimination it is something that we cannot ignore people like me or sixth

cannot ignore people like me or sixth

cannot ignore people like me or sixth grade me still struggle with the

grade me still struggle with the

grade me still struggle with the negative implications of not fulfilling

negative implications of not fulfilling

negative implications of not fulfilling the image of an Asian model student they

the image of an Asian model student they

the image of an Asian model student they suffer from feeling similar enough not

suffer from feeling similar enough not

suffer from feeling similar enough not to get rejected from the American

to get rejected from the American

to get rejected from the American Society but too different to feel the

Society but too different to feel the

Society but too different to feel the comfortable with their place in it Asian

comfortable with their place in it Asian

comfortable with their place in it Asian actors in Hollywood still undergo

actors in Hollywood still undergo

actors in Hollywood still undergo stereotypical casting calls and receive

stereotypical casting calls and receive

stereotypical casting calls and receive unfair treatment the question is what

unfair treatment the question is what

unfair treatment the question is what can we do to solve this a solid

can we do to solve this a solid

can we do to solve this a solid practical answer to this would be

practical answer to this would be

practical answer to this would be education education is the root to all

education education is the root to all

education education is the root to all kinds of change and change is exactly

kinds of change and change is exactly

kinds of change and change is exactly what’s needed to abolish these harmful

what’s needed to abolish these harmful

what’s needed to abolish these harmful stereotypes however I promise myself not

stereotypes however I promise myself not

stereotypes however I promise myself not to end this talk on a cliche note which

to end this talk on a cliche note which

to end this talk on a cliche note which is why I’m not going to say be the

is why I’m not going to say be the

is why I’m not going to say be the change you wish to see in the world

change you wish to see in the world

change you wish to see in the world instead I want to say talk pass your

instead I want to say talk pass your

instead I want to say talk pass your knowledge on to others share your

knowledge on to others share your

knowledge on to others share your experiences for people who want to hear

experiences for people who want to hear

experiences for people who want to hear them and if you’d like even for those

them and if you’d like even for those

them and if you’d like even for those who don’t let what you say move others

who don’t let what you say move others

who don’t let what you say move others if you find yourself stereotyped or

if you find yourself stereotyped or

if you find yourself stereotyped or caught in a situation similar to one

caught in a situation similar to one

caught in a situation similar to one I’ve been in speak up and stand up for

I’ve been in speak up and stand up for

I’ve been in speak up and stand up for yourself let others know that their

yourself let others know that their

yourself let others know that their actions kind of detrimental effects let

actions kind of detrimental effects let

actions kind of detrimental effects let there be one less sixth grade me in the

there be one less sixth grade me in the

there be one less sixth grade me in the world meanwhile in the face of hardship

world meanwhile in the face of hardship

world meanwhile in the face of hardship be like Ross Butler persist and never

be like Ross Butler persist and never

be like Ross Butler persist and never give up

give up

give up you were you were possibly just one tiny

you were you were possibly just one tiny

you were you were possibly just one tiny step away from your goal but most

step away from your goal but most

step away from your goal but most importantly if you ever feel like you

importantly if you ever feel like you

importantly if you ever feel like you don’t belong be proud of who you are

don’t belong be proud of who you are

don’t belong be proud of who you are embrace your unique qualities and be

embrace your unique qualities and be

embrace your unique qualities and be yourself because differences are what

yourself because differences are what

yourself because differences are what make up this world and by appreciating

make up this world and by appreciating

make up this world and by appreciating yours you can make a difference thank

yours you can make a difference thank

yours you can make a difference thank you

you

you [Applause]

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